Piston Slap: Getting in the Zone, Audi A4 1.8T Edition

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

C.T. from AutoZone (yes, that AutoZone) writes:

Dear Piston Slap, I drive a 2002 Audi A4 1.8T with the CVT. It has 75,000 miles on it, and has been properly maintained. I am experiencing a vibration under these conditions:’

-Only after at least 10 minutes of driving…never cold

-Only between 70-80 mph

-Only when accelerating

-The same no matter how much throttle I give it

-I cannot feel it in the steering wheel

-It feels like it is coming from the axle/drive shaft area

-Sometimes it doesn’t happen at all

I recently took it to a reputable independent shop I have used several times to perform the timing belt and drive belt swap recommended before 80,000 miles. I mentioned the vibration, but they could not replicate it (although I am sure they drove it cold). The vibration was happening maybe 1-2 days a week then. Now it is happening 9 in 10 days under the conditions above. This is probably the only place I trust with my car where I live, but they are so busy right now that I’m afraid they still won’t take the proper time to do a 20-minute highway test drive to properly diagnose the problem.

I don’t have the time, the tools, or the skill to DIY this. I have searched the Audi forums for answers and most blame their mods for their vibrations. I’d like to be able to give my shop a better idea of what it might be…they are more likely to spend the time looking at the car on a lift than test driving, so if I can get them going in the right direction, maybe they will find and fix it.

Help me Piston Slap, you’re my only hope.

Sajeev answers:

And with that: help me, Best and Brightest! This week’s Piston Slap comes from India and Internet access is, uh, somewhat limited. And intimate knowledge of CVT repair/diagnosis is quite hard to find outside of a stealership service bay. But that’s not to say that CVTs aren’t worth their weight in gold to someone.

I reckon you have a mechanical problem internal to the CVT, since you mentioned that the problem happens as the car’s fluids warms up. Failing sensors or worn CV joints need not apply, but a used CVT from car-part.com runs $800-1000 and the labor is several hundred more. That’s probably your only route, as locally rebuilding a CVT is almost entirely out of the question given the complicated nature of CVTs.

If your mechanic is still clueless after the road test, I suggest a change of plan: add a bottle Lucas (purchased with your AutoZone rewards card, wink-wink) and sell it to a faceless dealership, or Carmax. Bad Karma to the next owner be damned, I suspect far, far more terrible financial pain in your future should you not heed this advice.

And if you’re a modern hot-rodder who loves getting on the boost, I’d recommend choosing a more robust platform for your future modifications. You know, if you did that in the first place.

[Send your queries to mehta@ttac.com]

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  • Pch101 Pch101 on Sep 01, 2009

    I don't know why tires and suspension wouldn't be the first things to check. These can be inspected for wear, imbalance, etc. without replicating the problem itself. I would suspect some combination of these as the culprit. Edit: I missed the above post about the problem being solved. Sorry about that.

  • Psarhjinian Psarhjinian on Sep 01, 2009
    I don’t know why tires and suspension wouldn’t be the first things to check. These can be inspected for wear, imbalance, etc. without replicating the problem itself. I would suspect some combination of these as the culprit. I think it was because he noted he didn't feel it through the steering wheel. Usually you'll feel (and see) the imbalance that causes as vibration in the wheel. I kick myself for not thinking about the motor mounts. My Saab busted two over a period of six months and exhibited about the same symptoms. I think the lesson here is that we all distrusted the CVT and were too willing to find it at fault, or we didn't listen to his description of the issue.
  • V8fairy Not scared, but I would be reluctant to put my trust in it. The technology is just not quite there yet
  • V8fairy Headlights that switch on/off with the ignition - similar to the requirement that Sweden has- lights must run any time the car is on.Definitely knobs and buttons, touchscreens should only be for navigation and phone mirroring and configuration of non essential items like stereo balance/ fade etc>Bagpipes for following too close.A following distance warning system - I'd be happy to see made mandatory. And bagpipes would be a good choice for this, so hard to put up with!ABS probably should be a mandatory requirementI personally would like to have blind spot monitoring, although should absolutely NOT be mandatory. Is there a blind spot monitoring kit that could be rerofitted to a 1980 Cadillac?
  • IBx1 A manual transmission
  • Bd2 All these inane posts (often referencing Hyundai, Kia) the past week are by "Anal" who has been using my handle, so just ignore them...
  • 3-On-The-Tree I was disappointed that when I bought my 2002 Suzuki GSX1300R that the Europeans put a mandatory speed limiter on it from 197mph down to 186mph for the 2002 year U.S models.
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