By on March 13, 2009

Walked into a HUMMER dealership lately? The poster child for everything wrong with the automotive industry went from a vibrant, stylish lounge for conspicuous consumption to a somber, museum-like tribute to modern architecture and failed business models. It’s a sad combination of soaring heights and eerie, uncomfortable silence. This also describes the HUMMER H3T Alpha to the proverbial T: the brand’s failed promises of functionality and fashion for a premium price culminate into the worst product rollout of the 2009 model year.

But wait a moment: can we still party like its 1999? The H3T’s rugged proportions, slender overhangs, unmolested lines and an unbelievably evocative front grille could’ve set the burgeoning SUV flame into a five alarm fire. It’s a brand honest effort in contrast to every other GM division that squanders, distorts or disregards their potential. The style is classically right, but socially wrong.

Which makes it right, in a historically perverse way. Driving the H3T down Houston’s boulevard of broken dreams feels like the (hopelessly optimistic) pink tailfins of a ’59 Caddy cruising Pennsylvania Avenue while a black armband protest against the Vietnam War looms in the background. Two generations, two schools of thought collide all over again: part of which is why the H3T is the coolest lifestyle-enhancing wannabe ever created. No matter what you think, there will never be a vehicle like this again.

And that’s gotta be worth something, since there’s not much worth cheering for inside. While HUMMER infused the Chevy Colorado’s interior with a great pair of contrast-piped leather seats and faux cowhide door inserts, the rest of the re-skin reeks of down market dour. Unyielding plastics are immensely stain proof, and the black chrome center stack absolutely begs for more reinforcements to justify the H3T’s lofty asking price. And from the mudslide of bass from the Monsoon Audio to the lack of a rear seat armrest, the baby HUMMER is lost in the dark ages of SUV interiors.

Note: if an H3 driver cuts you off in the shopping mall parking garage, don’t hate the player. Hate the game. The memorable styling of the HUMMER brand translates into side/rear visibility that makes a Chrysler 300 blush. The only lifeline to scratch free sheetmetal is a pair of gargantuan side view mirrors, creating a series of educated guesses as to where the 5-foot bed lies in relation to fixed objects. With these sightlines, the HUMMER lifestyle requires a damn good spotter for any serious four-wheelin’ event.

But things ease up back in the real world of the urban cowboy. The H3T is an easy rider, with basketball-height sidewalls and a softly sprung suspension. But the chassis has more flex than you’d expect in a modern pickup. No surprise there, the third-rate engineering of the Chevy Colorado shows up again. And this isn’t a hack job of the H3 SUV: the fully enclosed baby-HUMMER fares no better in back-to-back testing.

Which makes the off road ready H3T’s poor handling less of a surprise. The Alpha HUMMER still weighs in at a massive 5069lb, with more body roll, brake dive and understeer compared to the (relatively) refined movements of a full-size Chevy pickup. Maybe that’s fine—this brand makes no bones about it’s admirable off road manners coming straight from the factory.

Don’t like it? Don’t buy it. But that cocky attitude no longer works for the Big H.

So consider the H3T’s genuine truck bed with a handful of rails, tie downs and hidden storage tricks. Plus, being V8 motivated, this must be a manly man’s truck: the unique “Alpha” interior/exterior badging and brushed aluminum plaque bearing GM’s Performance Parts trademark (on the engine) mean something. Or not: the H3T Alpha has far more “area under the curve” over the standard offering’s five-pot mill, but the modest peak numbers and a quad-cog gearbox fail to motivate this leviathan in a fashion befitting Detroit’s other body-on-frame beasts.

So the H3T Alpha is the quasi-truck that prefers you not compare it to a real truck, much less the other poseurs at Chevrolet, Ford and Honda showrooms. That’s because the HUMMER’s payload capacity is almost 400lb less than the car-like Ridgeline, and tows about 1000lb less than the independently sprung Ford Sport Trac. The bed is an ergonomic triple threat: small, narrow and tall. Don’t even think about the folding mid-gate from the Chevy Avalanche as the H3T isn’t built on that GM platform. Oops.

If we still lived in the SUV’s heyday, the HUMMER H3T Alpha’s lack of substance wouldn’t mean squat. It’s got the right look, has a mean (sounding) engine and works like a somewhat incompetent pickup. But the market has changed, and even if HUMMER used their whole ass while creating the H3T Alpha they’d still screw the pooch. Hasta la vista, baby.

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59 Comments on “Review: 2009 HUMMER H3T Alpha...”


  • avatar
    dwford

    Vehicles like this could still be contenders even in this market IF they weren’t just complete poseur-mobiles. If this “truck” had over the top utility and capability, we wouldn’t have a problem with it.

  • avatar
    Edmond Dantes

    “That’s because the Hummer’s payload capacity is almost 400lbs less than the car-like Ridgeline, …”

    Hahahaha. Good work, GM!

  • avatar
    Usta Bee

    I’ve seen a few of these around my town, and they’re mostly chrome pimped out poseur mobiles jacked up with lift kits. I’ve never seen a single one of these trucks with any dirt or mud on them.

  • avatar
    energetik9

    I will preface this right up front and say that I am NOT a truck guy. I just don’t get these socially marginalized beasts. They seem to me to be the epitome of what is wrong with American car marketing and GM corporate leadership. But I digress. I was driving yesterday and saw a H2 driving around and my only thought was…. “I’d hate to be the guy stuck with that”. A number of years ago I had a female single friend who had a Hummer H2 and then later a H3. She said she used to get lots of attention from men when she was driving. Unfortunately she said 90% of the attention she got was from the under 12 male demographic.

    The interior reminds me of my wife’s old trailblazer interior. I’m still going through therapy over my exposure to that truck and your pictures of the interior has me regressing.

  • avatar
    taxman100

    I’d buy one if I had money to burn on buying a car strictly for emotional issues.

    It certainly doesn’t fit in with our modern mindset of being led around by Big Brother.

  • avatar
    tigeraid

    Honestly, as useless as it is as an offroad vehicle, this “truck” would’ve been sad and irrelevent 12 years ago. Never mind today. And GM just recently released it. Gotta love that.

  • avatar
    tigeraid

    energetik9:

    I will preface this right up front and say that I am NOT a truck guy. I just don’t get these socially marginalized beasts. They seem to me to be the epitome of what is wrong with American car marketing.

    In America (and in my country too, to a lesser extent), enver underestimate the power of poseur-ship. If advertising can make a product LOOK like something, then it IS something.

    The Hummer brand as a whole, H1 all the way to H3, is a colossal joke to anyone in the REAL offroading community. I’m not into trucks either, but I have plenty of friends who are–and there’s nothing they hate more then a poser. And that is, literally, what the entire Hummer brand is: pretending to be the original military Humvee, without the reliability, sturdiness or offroad ability.

    I have zero problem with a giant, lifted, gas-guzzling offroad pickup–provided it actually does what it claims to do. People by Hummers to look “good”… Like most SUV owners. It IS what’s wrong with marketing in America.

  • avatar
    Detroit-X

    Ahhh yes. Hummer. I remember Hummer! Back in the day, I would look at the H2 drivers in traffic and think: “issues.” I would avert my eyes when they glanced over at a traffic light. Too awkward. Like encountering a 500 lb. man huffing along, deep in thigh management.

    But, want to talk about real “issues?” GM being compelled to make an ‘Alpha’ edition of their macho Hummmer. What? Isn’t having “a Hummer” enough for the rugged wannabees? Now they need an Alpha Hummer to claim their dominance? What’s next? A “Kim Jong II Edition Hummer?” Maybe it’s because underneath the H3, it wears Isuzu panties.

  • avatar
    BuckD

    taxman100: “It certainly doesn’t fit in with our modern mindset of being led around by Big Brother.”

    All the more reason for you to buy one then. Nothing says “I’m not being led around by Big Brother–I AM Big Brother” quite like a Hummer. But like everything else about the Hummer brand, it’s all for show.

  • avatar
    superbadd75

    The Hummer brand gets a bad rap because of the owners of its vehicles. Truth be told, they are great off-road vehicles, even though they are generally underpowered. They’re not built to be the perfect daily driver, or get good fuel mileage (obviously), or be fast. They’re built to a purpose. Even though they are based largely on existing GM parts, they are different in many ways. The Colorado chassis that the H3 sits on, for example, is not without modification. It is fully boxed front to rear and its crossmembers are welded in place, features the Colorado doesn’t possess. The transfer cases in Hummer vehicles are geared lower than other GM 4WD vehicles for superior off-road capability, as well as metal skidplates protecting the vital parts underneath. Hummers aren’t poseur vehicles as much as they are vehicles with a singular purpose. The people that buy them are the poseurs.

  • avatar
    Casual Observer

    I think the backlash against Hummer is not really about its anti-green or machismo images. I think it’s more about its phoniness. Nothing turns Americans off more than disingenuousness.

    If Hummers actually performed as the kings of the off-road, then there would not be such animosity.

    I mean, what’s the difference between a Hummer and an $80,000 Land Cruiser? How come folks driving around the suburban jungles in Land Cruisers don’t get the dirty looks, too? Because a Land Cruiser can go to hell and back, that’s why.

  • avatar

    Personally, if I wanted a sexy macho box-on-wheels utitlity vehicle, I’d get a Land Rover Defender 110 long wheelbase. No flat bed you say? Just get the “crew cab” version. It looks about the same as this abomination in regards to ease of access and size of the bed. And you’d have no qualms about beating the snot out of it offroad.

  • avatar
    like.a.kite

    [That much] less payload capacity than a non-truck Ridgeline? Christ almighty!

  • avatar

    Brilliant analogy to the ’59 Cadillac. During the height of the SUV craze I used to think, “So this is how tailfins happened.” And, looking to the tailfin example, it was clear that once the market turned against SUVs it would turn FAST.

    So now we’re seeing what the early 1960s felt like, when some manufacturers were briefly stuck with outmoded cars–and millions of car owners were stuck with them for much longer. Always wondered what that was like.

    On the reliability front, the 2006 H3 used to have a worse than average repair rate, but recently this has improved to average and even on the verge of “better than average.” This isn’t the first GM model I’ve seen improve in middle age.

    http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability.php?stage=pt&bd=Hummer&mc=105&email=Guest

  • avatar
    Stein X Leikanger

    @JEC

    Definitely. The Defender is serious business, where the Hummer is pimped out.
    And it’s worth noting that while the Defender can be heavy, 1700-2000 kgs depending upon the version, that weight is there making sense – with reinforcement plates where they are needed, and with a grade of shell that will snap a tree trunk without getting dented, and which you can straighten out with a sledgehammer.

    Have to laugh – my XJ weighs in at about half of the Hummer’s weight, what’s it all for? Just useless – sucks gas, makes maneuvering lousy, sinks into the ground.

    Just think of the Hummer dealership package that GM demanded dealers sign on for – wasn’t that a 17 million dollar Hummerland investment?

  • avatar
    NN

    Beautifully written, Sajeev–particularly the 3rd paragraph. Another great TTAC review. I always felt that if GM actually invested a few extra pennies into the Colorado platform they could have done some real good. If they put a mid gate in, and either the Alpha straight 6 or a small diesel, I think they could have really brought volume sales back to the midsize pickup. If it really is all about honest utility, then that would be the ticket.

  • avatar
    fallout11

    The only Hummer dealership in a 30 mile radius, built in 2003, went under last year and is now being used as a trailer & flatbed sales store. Kinda sums up the whole failed concept.

  • avatar
    Stein X Leikanger

    fallout11 :
    March 13th, 2009 at 8:35 am

    The only Hummer dealership in a 30 mile radius,

    That puts it nicely. The Hummer should be a specialty vehicle, if it was for real, and having to drive 100+ miles in order to visit a dealership should be par for the course for that kind of vehicle.

    I once went to Austria to look at an SUV – that was more than a thousand miles. :-) Treating Hummers as if they were a dime a dozen turned them into lipstick SUVs.

  • avatar
    Gary Numan

    Nice review and seems spot-on. I too have NEVER seen a dirty, scratched or dented Hummer due to real off-road use. Isn’t it funny how some comment in here that they are great off-road vehicles yet others say no way. I would have to join the “no way” crowd as I can not believe they can be worth a damn if they are that heavy, that wide and have no visibility. The complete opposite of say a Jeep Wrangler. I’d almost lay odds that my old 93 Jeep Cherokee would outhustle many Hummers off the pavement. Heck, back in the day, we hammered our old 70′s chevy 4WD pickups in our farm fields, river beds and river sand dunes like you wouldn’t believe. It would be fun to pit an old 76 Chevy K10 shortbox stepside with a 400 small block against these Hummers to see how they’d compare!

    Hummer. The ultimate poseur ride……..

  • avatar
    ambulancechaser

    I’m living in the very heart of redneck Alberta (Canada) and I’ve not seen a single example of this on the road driven by someone who bought it with their own money. The local Honda dealer can’t keep enough Fits in stock though…strange.

  • avatar
    tigeraid

    superbadd75:

    The Hummer brand gets a bad rap because of the owners of its vehicles. Truth be told, they are great off-road vehicles, even though they are generally underpowered. They’re not built to be the perfect daily driver, or get good fuel mileage (obviously), or be fast. They’re built to a purpose.

    Completely false. They’re atrocious at offroading, even the H1. The ORIGINAL Humvee obviously was unstoppable, but every other Hummer has been based of existing half ton architecture, and is piss-poor in an offroading environment–especially when you move to rock-crawling. Obviously, not everyone needs to rock-crawl, but the whole point is that the Hummer brand makes it LOOK like they’re supposed to be out there in the quarry. It’s completely bogus and the vehicles are completely bogus.

  • avatar
    John Horner

    This has got to be the worst example of style over function coming out of any automotive factory today. 5069 lbs. on a mini-truck platform!

  • avatar
    SkiD666

    Mass market manufacturers just shouldn’t screw around in niche markets. Sure it looks good on paper for the first year of sales, but they quickly fall off afterwards and in the end they never make back the money invested.

    GM isn’t the only one guilty of this (Hummer/Solstice/HHR/etc.), Toyota has the FJ Cruiser/Scions, Honda has the Ridgeline/S2000, etc.

    Why bother creating product (no matter how good it may be) if you can’t make a profit?

  • avatar
    Paul Niedermeyer

    I mean, what’s the difference between a Hummer and an $80,000 Land Cruiser? How come folks driving around the suburban jungles in Land Cruisers don’t get the dirty looks, too? Because a Land Cruiser can go to hell and back, that’s why.

    Because the Land Rover doesn’t try so hard to call attention to itself.

  • avatar
    John Horner

    SkiD666: Toyota has done very well with the FJ and the Scions. Honda did just fine on the Ridgeline.

    The S2000 is/was a kind of weird niche effort, just like the NSX. I think Honda did those mostly as an internal morale booster. It used to be said that the competition to get on the NSX team was intense. There is a lot of value for a company in having some projects which create internal energy with the staff. Hummer was always a cynical cash grab, and I doubt many GM engineers and designers were excited about getting to work on such inauthentic crap.

    “Because the Land Rover doesn’t try so hard to call attention to itself.”

    Amen, but then I like women better without surgical modifications.

  • avatar
    RedStapler

    4 or 5 years ago when SUV mania was still in full swing the poseur Hummers made from a marketing perspective. Tart-up 1/2 ton and midsize truck platforms with some poseur off road styling and you can get a $10-15k premium. The extra 1500-2000 lbs relative to a Wrangler, Cherokee or Land Rover D90 is quite a burden off road.

    The H1 was the real deal. A couple of weight classes above what most people need, but very good at toting around 4 people and 1000 lbs of stuff. Had they left Hummer alone it could have remained in its proper niche sandbox selling 5-10k per year. But alas it became the shark jumping MILFmobile parody of SUVs.

  • avatar
    wsn

    Paul Niedermeyer :
    March 13th, 2009 at 10:00 am

    I mean, what’s the difference between a Hummer and an $80,000 Land Cruiser? How come folks driving around the suburban jungles in Land Cruisers don’t get the dirty looks, too? Because a Land Cruiser can go to hell and back, that’s why.

    Because the Land Rover doesn’t try so hard to call attention to itself.

    1) Landcruiser is a real off road vehicle.
    2) Landcruiser is a Japanese SUV model; Land Rover is an Indian SUV brand.

  • avatar
    wsn

    Edmond Dantes :
    March 13th, 2009 at 6:50 am

    “That’s because the Hummer’s payload capacity is almost 400lbs less than the car-like Ridgeline, …”

    Hahahaha. Good work, GM!

    And the Hummer still has that dirty divider line between the cab and the bed?

  • avatar
    Ferrygeist

    Honda most definitely SHOULD have screwed around in the niche market, because whether or not it’s a loss leader, and weather or not it created internal energy (it did), the S2000 is, as I’ve said before, probably the single greatest bargain in sports cars we’ll ever see.

    Re: Hummers. There’s a bumper sticker I’ve seen circulating in Jeep circles, and the same tag line resides on a lot of Jeep owners’ forum tags that says it all: “H2 recovery vehicle.”

    I’ve never seen one off road either, although I did once see a photograph of one with an owner on Pinkham Canyon in Joshua Tree.

  • avatar
    Spaniard

    Could someone please tell me what´s the purpose of this device?.

    I would look at the H2 drivers in traffic and think: “issues.”

    Yup, that´s it. Thank you.

    This has got to be the worst example of style over function coming out of any automotive factory today

    Well, there is also the New Beetle…

  • avatar
    adonasetb

    Record unemployment; homes in foreclosure; retirement accounts gone – and we talk about the merits of a Hummer? This cash cow needs to go the way of the negative equity mortgage loan.

  • avatar
    fincar1

    Detroit-X : ” What’s next? A “Kim Jong II Edition Hummer?” Maybe it’s because underneath the H3, it wears Isuzu panties.”

    I am still laughing!

    Also, I don’t get this idea that the midgate like on an Avalanche is a big advantage. Drive with that open and every speck of dust you drive near is vacuumed into the cab. You might as well have a Jeep with no top that weighs a ton less.

  • avatar
    Kurt.

    What a POS! Look a the picture of it in the stream. The rear tire is OFF THE GROUND! Do you think it comes with lockers? No. The rear tire is in the air is spinning and unless the front has traction, the truck is not going anywhere.

    I’ll give in…it looks cool as hell – especially with the KTM in the back and the matching paint.

  • avatar
    gslippy

    @SkiD666: Scion is laughing all the way to the bank, so I’m not sure what you mean.

    Niche vehicles or niche brands are great if you can sell them. I’d argue that most vehicles fit a certain market niche, with very few generalists out there anymore.

    The market has simply left Hummer behind. Hummer has failed to transform itself in the way Cadillac has, for example.

  • avatar
    Juniper

    gslippy
    The only thing Scion is doing at a bank is borrowing money, their sales suck. They sold a total of 3700 cars in the US in Feb. Check your facts at the Toyota Press release web site.

  • avatar
    SkiD666

    gslippy, How much profit do you think Toyota makes on a $16,000 car?

    The only way to make money on small cars is to make a small profit and sell lots of volume because americans expect that small=cheap.

    In Feb., Scion sold 3700 cars (3 models) as opposed to 23000 Yaris/Corolla. For as much as people rag on GM for all their brands and badge engineering, Toyota shouldn’t have Scion.

    H3/FJ/Ridgeline sales seem roughly comparable
    Hummer H3 – 2005 – 33,000, 2006 – 55,000, 2007 – 43,000, 2008 – 21,000, 2009 – currently another 70% drop

    FJ Cruiser – 2006/2007 sales – 55,000, 2008 – 29,000, 2009 – currently another 40-50% drop)

    Ridgeline – 2006 – 50,000, 2007 – 43,000, 2008 – 34,000, currently another 60% drop

    I bet everyone on the board also agrees that the Solstice and Sky don’t make GM any money. So the S2000 (no matter how good a car it is) couldn’t have made Honda any money. Sales for the S2000 were never over 10,000 cars (total sales of roughly 65,000).

  • avatar
    gslippy

    Juniper:

    Yes, Scion sold 3700 cars in Feb 09 among 3 models. Hummer sold 1053 vehicles among approximately 2-6 models, depending on how one counts them.

    That 3700 beat out MINI, Porsche, Saab, Suzuki, and Volvo. Saab and Volvo are dogs, but the others aren’t.

    I’d rather sell 3700 Scions with no-hassle pricing than 1000 Hummers knowing I’ll be fleeced by my customers.

    Whether Scion is making money at those volumes, I don’t know – maybe not, since all of Toyota Group is down. But we do know that the death of Hummer is not due to its profitability.

  • avatar
    Pig_Iron

    I never like sedans diguised as trucks. This one’s bad, but greatest abomination was the Blackwood with a weight rating of a set of golf clubs.

  • avatar
    Juniper

    gslippy
    Your statement was they were laughing all the way to the bank. I don’t think they were,and certainly Hummer was not, nor were any other niche low cost manufactures.

  • avatar
    gslippy

    My ‘bank’ statement was mis-spoken. :)

    What I mean is that lumping Scion and other low-volume niche players in the same pot isn’t really fair.

    Hummer’s sufferings are not all due to their niche-ness, but a host of issues that do not affect the other niche players – perceived value, social perceptions, actual utility, etc. MINI and Scion can still compete because they are not hampered with these in the same way Hummer is.

    As for profit, I’ll guess Toyota makes more per-vehicle profit on a $16,000 Scion than they do on a $16,000 Corolla, because nobody can haggle on the Scion price. Scion shares much of its parts with other Toyotas anyway, so they have some underlying volume to keep costs down.

  • avatar
    Bridge2far

    “I’d get a Land Rover Defender 110 long wheelbase.”
    And how often will that thing be in the repair shop?
    I love perusing the owner’s manuals in a Land Rover. It comes complete with information for the consumer on how to initiate the inevitable buy-back process.

  • avatar
    Andy D

    heh heh, I’m sticking to my Grand Wagoneer. Best beach buggy ever made.

  • avatar
    Durask

    Please. Land Cruiser and it’s Lexus brothers are just as much a poseur vehicle as the Hummer. Who takes a 70K car off road…please, it’s not even funny. Whatever engineering it has is largely irrelevant, the only off-roading they see is driving out of a garage in a snowstorm before the driverway is plowed.

    Around here the only time I run into Land Cruisers is in the Whole Foods parking lot when an aging 50-ish trophy wife gets out of one and gives you a nasty look which says “you plebe, how dare you shop at the same store as I do!”

    The reason Land Cruiser/Lexus LX do not get the same derision is because they are associated with rich people and Hummers are associated with wannabe-rich. Plus Toyota has this whole “green” and “progressive” image which they, to their credit, carefully nurtured over the years.

  • avatar
    davey49

    “Land Rover Defender 110 long wheelbase”
    Cool idea, but I don’t think you can buy one in the US. If you live elsewhere, go for it.
    I think I’d get a defender 90, 4 doors- bahhh!
    I think LandCruiser owners probably do get some funny looks.
    Scion can’t compete, they’ll likely be eliminated shortly.
    The Avalanche midgate is an advantage because you can carry 4×8 sheets of plywood/drywall with the tailgate closed and the back seat folded down or carry 2 rows of passengers and shorter items in the cargo area. Otherwise if you want a vehicle that will haul 4×8 sheets and has 2 full rows you have to get an extra long crew cab 8 foot bed pickup.
    “Well, there is also the New Beetle…”
    In that case, the style IS the function.
    It does have a lot of room in the driver area, gotta give it credit for that.
    I’m not a HUMMER hater.
    HUMMERs have won several Baja 500s and 1000s unmodified.
    I’d say that’s OK for a crappy off road vehicle.
    jeep owners hate Hummers because it means that they aren’t an exclusive club anymore.
    Whiners!
    The H3T really should have been a 2 door with the same wheelbase and length as the H3. The extra length makes it look goofy.
    As far as “social stigma” is concerned? I think everyone should have the right to severely hurt/maim/kill/embarrass anyone who makes fun of/harass/torment/comments them on their choice of automobile.

  • avatar
    davey49

    “As for profit, I’ll guess Toyota makes more per-vehicle profit on a $16,000 Scion than they do on a $16,000 Corolla, because nobody can haggle on the Scion price.”
    They have to import the Scions though, an expensive proposition. Probably eats up all of the profits.

  • avatar
    fli317

    There is so much bias on this site, its funny. I am a Jeep guy so I will not try too hard to defend the Hummer. But come on, I hope the Ridgeline got as much flack for being a poseur. I think it won truck of the year. Your driving a truck body on a minivan drivetrain. This has to be a girl’s car for sure. At least the hummer has a GM V8 with rear wheel drive. In a few years, if they are cheap enough they’ll be modified for decent off roading. They are a great platform to build from. The Ridgeline on the other hand, will probably need a new transmission. The way everyone hates Hummer, makes me want to buy one.
    I don’t know about being a whiner, davey49. I’ll put my jeep up against any hummer all day long. But you are right on two fronts. Hummers do well in the Baja and too many people worry about what everyone else is driving. Drive what you want. Maybe there is some envy in some of these comments. Don’t ever let society tell you what to drive. You’ll never be happy.

  • avatar
    Jeff Puthuff

    I think it won truck of the year

    You must be new here or you’d know what we think of “X of the Year” awards.

    In a few years, if they are cheap enough they’ll be modified for decent off roading

    If you have to modify them to make them “decent” for off-roading, then what is the H3T’s reason for existing? As an overweight, underpowered, gas-guzzling people carrier with a token cargo bed?

  • avatar
    fli317

    Not many trucks come from the factory “decent” for off roading. You likely have to modify it. But it probably depends what you call off roading. You can be as biased as you like. Underpowered, gas-guzzling? Its a truck. And, usually, well-powered goes with gas-guzzling and underpowered goes with gas sipping. Just an observation you might recognize. Go put a basket on the back of a prius. It gets real good gas mileage. Oh sorry, that might work for some. Some people really hate that Hummer. Don’t be angry that some people want that truck.

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    In case you haven’t heard, this isn’t good news…

  • avatar
    UnclePete

    davey49: The Avalanche midgate is an advantage because you can carry 4×8 sheets of plywood/drywall with the tailgate closed and the back seat folded down or carry 2 rows of passengers and shorter items in the cargo area.0

    I owned one of the first Avalanches; it was a decent vehicle. To continue your thought, the other nice thing about the Avalanche midgate is that you can leave the bed panels on, drop the midgate, load the plywood and everything is secure and out of the weather.

    Having the removable bed panels was a slick thing on the Avalanche since it gave you a covered “trunk”. Another big advantage over the H3T’s cargo space.

  • avatar
    davey49

    Forgot about the bed covers on the Avalanche, did that come standard, or was that an option?
    fli317- yes, I wasn’t talking about all Jeep owners, I’m actually thinking more about Jeep fans (maybe owners, maybe not,) who try to insist that “HUMMERs suck off road!, they’re a POS!”, even though its been proven by professionals that they do well. The professionals part is important because often on the net, someone will link to a video of some frat boys getting stuck or breaking their HUMMER as an example.
    4 wheeling is like racing, it’s all about the driver.

  • avatar
    UnclePete

    davey49: Forgot about the bed covers on the Avalanche, did that come standard, or was that an option?T

    The bed covers were standard. The early models had an option to replace the hard covers with a soft cover, but I’ve never seen one of those.

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    rudiger

    Durask: “The reason Land Cruiser/Lexus LX do not get the same derision is because they are associated with rich people and Hummers are associated with wannabe-rich.”Yeah, I think that was the whole point of the Hummer – it was supposed to be a Land Cruiser for people who couldn’t afford the real thing.

    Unfortunately, unlike the real thing, a half-price, domestic version of the Land Cruiser makes virtually no sense at all. A Land Cruiser is a well-built, reliable vehicle well-suited for its intended purpose. But the Hummer? Not so much.

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    NickR

    GM’s creating and perpetuating this brand is one of the main reasons I have no sympathy for them. If they had no other SUVs in their stable when the SUV craze hit…maybe. But they already had them in spades and from everything I’ve seen and heard, it never did anything particulary well (apart from serving as a mobile billboard for nightclubs and energy drinks). Good riddance.

  • avatar
    mjal

    Not that I’m a big fan of the Hummer brand, but can we stop extolling the off-road virtues of Land/Range Rover vehicles that have the reputation as among the worst reliable brands, not to mention terrible dealer service.

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    jaw540i

    Just so there’s a comment here based on actual experience with the vehicle, I own one of these. 300 hp, 4:1 xfr case, 4:10′s with lockers front and rear, stock 33′s; this truck is unstoppable. It’s great offroad (have you seen the Moab footage?) and I am happy with it onroad as well. I ride a motorcycle to offset the poor gas mileage. It’s roomy inside all while being narrower than a regular 1/2 ton to make it much more capable, as well. It sits right between a Jeep Rubicon and a Z71, and you take some losses from both sides, but the result is a very capable hybrid of the two. Also, if you look at current truck prices, this H3T Alpha is quite a deal. All the Rams and F150s I looked at where in the mid $40k’s…I paid $37000 for a model with everything less nav and leather (really unnecessary). I made add the nav later, just to be honest with you. Give it a try, you’ll see.

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    thewarning01

    Let me say this, I want an H3T, not because I do “serious” offroading as a hobby, but because i want a capable vehicle to take on my camping/fishing/hunting/hiking trips that i like to go on as often as possible, and a lot of the times require a truck. And i think the h3T is a bad ass looking truck, and i can afford it, so why not?

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    largemouthbass

    Wow it amazes me how people can make judgements and have opinions on things they have no experience with. I find the hummer haters are worse than the hummer owners that they condemn. The lack of education and sheer ignorance of the majority of haters is laughable. At least read something other than the biased opinion of the articles author before you make a comment.
    Do some research and you would quickly learn that the H3T and the H3 are extremely capable off road and they both have 4×4 magazine awards to prove it….

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    Turkspur

    I don’t think any of have ever used one off-road?

    I have seen this thing drive in eastern NC slick mud almost up to the door handles.

    It was used to pull a jeep rubicon out of the same mud (jeep had back tires in it. Frame was on ground) that was trying to move the GMC sierra 2500 crew cab on dry land. My friend took it THROUGH the mud to get a good angle on the jeep to pull it out. He then drove the thing through the mud showing off and after a few minutes of him watching us Jeep guys pick our jaws off the ground, he then was able to work the truck enough so it could be driven out slowly.

    It may not be able to rock crawl well, but who cares. I mean really how many people who buy 4 X 4′s rock crawl?

    Looks like some of you care what people like yourselfs think about you and what you drive. It is a little flashy, but who freakin cares!

    I have an old CJ and a new rubicon and they stand out as much as this. I love jeeps but I hate how snobby most of the owners can be.

    I have seen this thing( h3t) work off-road. It is simply a beast. rock crawling is not a factor for 99.999999 of off-roaders.


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