Toyota May Take No. 1 U.S. Sales Slot From GM

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

Toyota outsold GM globally last year. Of course, GM took the low road and claimed they were still number one by dint of their minority partnerships with Chinese automakers. This year, ToMoCo will lift the crown as the world’s largest automaker– joint ventures or no. Anyway, here in the real world, that gig’s been up for a while. More than a year ago, GM CEO Rick Wagoner declared that Toyota’s title-taking didn’t matter. OK, it did, a bit. But it really didn’t; ’cause we don’t have time to worry about that shit [paraphrasing]. After all, we’ll be profitable by…. uh… hey! Is that an SSR? Well, Red Ink Rick’s going to get another chance to play spin the news. CNBC’s Phil LeBeau reports that Toyota’s three U.S. brands could outsell GM’s eight brands in October. “This week is not only the last one of the month. It’s also the week that could determine if GM holds on to the top spot in monthly auto sales in the U.S. Initial reports of October retail auto sales show Toyota outpacing GM and Ford. If that trend holds for the full month, we could be looking at the day many in Detroit have feared for years.” Even if GM doesn’t, Phil worries about the psychological impact of the smack-down.

“But even if Toyota out sells GM for October, what does it mean? Yes, there are bragging rights, but beyond that is there a residual carry-over to Toyota being #1 in sales for one month? Yes and No.

“Yes, in that Toyota’s ascent to #1 would confirm the momentum the automaker has been building for years. And the auto business is very much about momentum. When a company is picking up business, the public notices and even the most stubborn people admit, “maybe I should at least look at those cars and trucks.”

In closing, Phil says hey, cut me slack. It’s one month for Christ’s sake [paraphrasing]. To which the only possible reply is, “Hey. You brought it up.” [Look for a GM Death Watch on this subject tomorrow. Meanwhile, I’ll write it.]

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  • Usta Bee Usta Bee on Oct 27, 2008

    Just goes to show you boring reliable cars sell better than boring unreliable cars.

  • Anonymous Anonymous on Oct 27, 2008

    0 % loans for anybody with a pulse? Especially on dogs like Sequoia and Tundra? Sound familiar?

  • Probert They already have hybrids, but these won't ever be them as they are built on the modular E-GMP skateboard.
  • Justin You guys still looking for that sportbak? I just saw one on the Facebook marketplace in Arizona
  • 28-Cars-Later I cannot remember what happens now, but there are whiteblocks in this period which develop a "tick" like sound which indicates they are toast (maybe head gasket?). Ten or so years ago I looked at an '03 or '04 S60 (I forget why) and I brought my Volvo indy along to tell me if it was worth my time - it ticked and that's when I learned this. This XC90 is probably worth about $300 as it sits, not kidding, and it will cost you conservatively $2500 for an engine swap (all the ones I see on car-part.com have north of 130K miles starting at $1,100 and that's not including freight to a shop, shop labor, other internals to do such as timing belt while engine out etc).
  • 28-Cars-Later Ford reported it lost $132,000 for each of its 10,000 electric vehicles sold in the first quarter of 2024, according to CNN. The sales were down 20 percent from the first quarter of 2023 and would “drag down earnings for the company overall.”The losses include “hundreds of millions being spent on research and development of the next generation of EVs for Ford. Those investments are years away from paying off.” [if they ever are recouped] Ford is the only major carmaker breaking out EV numbers by themselves. But other marques likely suffer similar losses. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fords-120000-loss-vehicle-shows-california-ev-goals-are-impossible Given these facts, how did Tesla ever produce anything in volume let alone profit?
  • AZFelix Let's forego all of this dilly-dallying with autonomous cars and cut right to the chase and the only real solution.
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