2022 New York Auto Show Week: Hyundai's Next Palisade Aims to Continue the Upscale Image

@28, Exactly right. I took a look at one recently, and it’s a 20 footer. As soon as a person looks closely, they quickly realize the quality of materials and construction is just not there. The majority of people I know who bought either of the sister brands lived to regret it.

@4onthefloor 4OTF, What's the sample size?

@4onthefloor I'm glad we agree, H/K has been this way for some time and it baffles me how the proles cannot see it (well until it is too late it seems).

@Secret Hi5 Doesn’t really matter in this case, because for most of these people, their hard earned dollars turned out to be a bad investment, and they had purchased when there was a significant price difference from the competition. Trade in value was also proportionally lower. An all around bad investment was what they told me. Now they don’t even have a price advantage.

@28-Cars-Later Koreans make fantastic skin care products, suspensions and drivetrains, not so much.

@28-Cars-Later Oh, give me a break...proles? You mean, proles like my ex-gf, who had three Hyundais, all of which got 100,000 miles or more on them and were solid? Proles like my kid who bought one a couple of years back and has had zero issues? Proles like me who seriously considered a Hyundai twice? Seriously, 28...not everyone who likes stuff you don't is stupid. Lighten up.

@FreedMike I'm happy for your child's good fortune and won't comment on your ex :D Before they scratched the world H/K used to take a steep drop in resale to the point avg folks were rolling negative equity into their next purchase on a fairly consistent basis. I recall consoling a gentleman (who may have lived beyond his means bit) whose 33K Sportage was being offered an insurance payout of 19ish when it was destroyed while he still owed 25K or so on it a year into payments. I also recall advising someone to buy a Corolla/Civic while they still could actually stiff the bank for the remainder of a loan because their 2012 KIA Soul's motor failed at 90K (due to known design flaws and Hyundai later settled a class action). These are the sorts of things common to subprime Nissan buyers and there are some, perhaps such as yourself, which acknowledge a Nissan f**k up but seem to be willfully blind of another marque. Here's another redpill from someone not myself on the subject: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatcarshouldIbuy/comments/u1xvoa/comment/i4flpgq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 If something works for a person, by all means stick with it but for the price point I don't think the products measure up. Now I am reading about crazy high ADM on KIA products, wow have fun.

@28-Cars-Later I'll state for the record that my 2018 Kia has been perfectly acceptable from a quality perspective and unless someone is ride-or-die with Lexus I wouldn't have concerns recommending one to people I know.

@ajla The Stinger shares a platform with Genesis, I suspect its closer to where it should be in terms of materials and R&D investment than the run of the mill transverse engine H/K fare.

@28: You're going to find failures with ANY brand, not just H/K. Google "class action lawsuit Toyota" if you don't believe me. Being upside down on a car is not a problem exclusive to H/K products. ADM on EVERYTHING is crazy high right now. None of this makes any H/K buyer stupid.

If one defines "no substance" as fake wood dash trim, then I'll grant you that a Palisade is no Volvo XC90. It is, after all, 30% less expensive. That said, in my experience a Palisade's interior is less squeaky at -30°C than a Volvo. It also has a smoother powertrain, quality underhood plastics that don't break off in your hand, and it never sees the inside of a service department. Even the ride dynamics - a longstanding gripe with H/K products - are class-competitive.

@4onthefloor: Some balance for your extensive research: In our family, we're on our 7th H/K product in 13 years - 4 used, 3 new. No regrets, all very reliable.