By on July 16, 2020

2019 Accord. Reader TheGamper

I have long been a family sedan buyer and was looking at replacing my aging ride. I have enjoyed rowing my own gears for more than two decades now, with the occasional automatic transmission thrown in the mix.

This time was a little different, in that there are so many extracurricular activities with three kids. My wife and I frequently find ourselves having to divide and conquer to get it all done. Making the challenge more difficult has always been the fact that I prefer a manual transmission, while she avoids driving a stick-shift like the plague, despite being fairly well versed in the three-pedal dance. I guess, like the market in general, she just doesn’t find joy in that level of engagement.

So, the writing was on the wall: An automatic transmission was in my future when I began hunting for a new whip.

To be in the running, any car I considered had to be more than just basic transportation. Thankfully, the family-sedan segment is filled with entrants that masterfully mix function with a dose of sport, speed, and handling. I considered a few crossovers, including the Mazda CX-9 grand touring. I considered the nicely revised Mazda 6 turbo and drove the V6 Toyota Camry, Genesis G70, new Outback turbo, and Volvo V60 T6.  I will admit that the one I wanted most was the V60 T6, but it was pretty new to the US market at the time and the deals I wanted just weren’t materializing.

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Having had a poor experience in the past with a Honda Odyssey, the brand’s Accord was really an afterthought. I had test-driven the last-gen Accord V6 and was really not all that impressed. The interior was so-so, the ride was nice but didn’t blow me away, and the styling was pretty generic. That last bit has been the case for as long as I can remember. And the price offered for all that “meh” was not really all that competitive.

But I just so happened to be near a Honda dealership when I was out test-driving another car. I had seen pictures of the new Accord and thought they did a pretty nice job on the styling.

I ended up leasing the very Accord model I test drove that day. A pearl white, Sport 2.0T with a 10-speed automatic. I was instantly impressed with the roominess, the amenities, the punch of the engine, the swift responses of the 10-speed, and the tight handling.

2019 Accord. Reader TheGamper

The Sport trim comes well equipped, checking the box for all the things I consider essential and a few extras. In a very un-Honda-like twist of fate, they were willing to deal, at least a little. I ended up getting the vehicle for startups, $350 per month plus tax for 15K miles/year. Not the deal of the century; I would have felt better at $320, but a few other dealerships I contacted wouldn’t even come close to that price. So ultimately a car I wasn’t really even considering found a home in my driveway.

For $32,315, including destination, other features included 19-inch ninja throwing-star rims, blacked-out chrome fascia (which is a must on the current Accord, in my opinion), power sunroof, power driver seat, dual front-seat warmers, 8-inch infotainment screen, LED headlights/fog lights, keyless entry, push-button start, Android Auto, Apple Carplay, Honda Sensing (more on that later), and cloth interior. It’s possible that a bit of legwork could drop that price to under $30K.

The cloth seats are fairly unique in that they have leatherette bolsters with a sort of shiny, synthetic fabric insert. They are not cloth. It’s a pretty comfortable surface. I suspect the synthetic fabric is highly stain resistant, which is nice. However, it’s a slippery surface, so don’t set loose items on the seat next to you.  I typically leave wallet, sunglasses, phone, etc. on the passenger seat while I am driving alone, and it all finds its way to the floor in short order. The seats have adequate bolstering and good thigh support.

The steering wheel telescopes and tilts, making finding a comfortable position fairly easy. I typically put the driver’s seat as close to the floor as possible for max headroom. Despite the shame of having to use my own muscles to get in and out of the car, like an animal or something, I manage to go on living and perform the ritual several times a day, just like our ancestors did. Proof that it is possible.

The instruments are very well laid out and there are, thankfully, physical knobs and buttons for all the basic daily functions. This is in contrast to Hondas of the recent past. The instrument cluster is half digital and half analog. The analog speedometer sits on the right side with a multi-function display to its left – a display that can show you range, fuel economy, and a digital tach, among other things.

2019 Accord. Reader TheGamper

The 8-inch infotainment screen is simplicity at its best, with both physical buttons and dials flanking the touchscreen. It is perhaps the most well-thought-out setup I have experienced on any vehicle within the last several years. The standard stereo sounds pretty good, and it stays clear well beyond comfortable volume levels. The climate controls have a premium feel with clicky dials that illuminate red and blue as you go hot or cold.  Fire up the engine and the analog speedo and digital tach spin in unison to their maximum before settling. Those are nice touches.

Lying below the splendid instruments, dials, and infotainment is perhaps one of the Accord’s most polarizing features: The controls for the push-button 10-speed auto. It takes some getting used to and even nine months into ownership I still catch myself looking down to verify that I am selecting the proper gear.  With “D” being the largest button and “R” having an inverted trigger-like operation, it’s fairly idiot-proof, but it still strikes me as a solution to a problem nobody had. I just don’t see the benefit of it unless maybe you needed a flat surface to set a laptop down or something.  There is a lot to be said for consistency when it comes to vehicle controls, and I just don’t see how this is a better set up than a traditional shift lever.

As you might imagine, the car comes standard with a host of safety features, including blind-spot monitor and rear cross-traffic alert.

Part of the Accord’s standard equipment list is “Honda Sensing” which is a suite of electronic nannies and safety features. Collision-avoidance brakes for you, while smart cruise control follows traffic in front of you at any speed, even down to a stop. Lane-keep assist will keep the inattentive from wandering over lane markers. Auto high beams turn on and off depending on the presence of oncoming traffic. It even reads and displays speed limit signs in the instrument cluster.

2019 Accord. Reader TheGamper

It all works pretty well, with some caveats (see next paragraph) and it’s all controlled by a smartphone-sized rectangular sensor embedded in the lower part of the grill, in addition to some sensors placed in front of the rear-view mirror at the top of the windshield.

As noted above, the nannies aren’t perfect. Smart cruise control keeps the space between you and the car in front of you to unreasonably long distances, making it useless in any sort of traffic as cars continually cut in from of you. Letting smart cruise control bring you to a complete stop is an uncomfortable exercise of faith in technology as the deceleration is far more abrupt than my nerves are comfortable with. Auto on/off high beams are great until they don’t turn off when that oncoming car crests the hill and you blind the driver. Lane-keep assist does not center the car, so it has obvious limitations. Collision-avoidance is probably the most useful feature, until it inexplicably activates when it shouldn’t or prevents you from performing some type of maneuver in traffic. Thankfully, all of these features are driver-defeatable. Maybe I will appreciate them when they save me from a collision, but for now, they’re no substitute for being an attentive driver.

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Front seat passengers have decent shoulder and hip room, and there is ample headroom. Overall, the Accord has a fairly spacious feel but like most sedans, it appears to give up some room to crossovers and trucks. Except in the rear: The rear seat has limo-like amounts of legroom, far better than many crossovers and even crew-cab trucks. I am 6 feet tall and sitting behind my own driving position, there are 4 inches of room between my knees and the front seat.

The sloping rear roofline doesn’t really hamper ingress/egress, but my son, who is 6’2”, is pushing the boundaries of rear-seat headroom, with his hair brushing the headliner. The cargo area is surprisingly large and the rear seats fold to allow pass-through.

I would prefer the functionality of a hatchback, Honda, if you’re listening. Still, I managed to fit 18 cases of water and two dozen 12-packs of soda spread between the trunk and back seat (pictured), hydrating an entire swim meet for a whole weekend in one trip.  As far as interiors go, I hope you like black because that is the only choice.

The top-trim Touring model has a few additional features, including leather seating, more sedate 19-inch rims, and a greyish interior color pallet, in addition to black and some faux wood grain trim.  The Sport trim has a pretty standard mix of soft and hard touch plastics in addition to faux aluminum and faux carbon fiber accents.  The Touring, with its faux woodgrain, leather seating, and a splash of something brighter than black is more to my taste, but nothing on offer really justified the extra cash, since the Sport gave me the primary features I wanted.

The exterior of the Accord in general – and the Sport trim in particular – is what I believe to be a great compromise between tasteful style and sporting intentions with just a touch of purposeful aggression thrown in for good measure. The blacked-out grille is reminiscent of the stormtrooper Dodge Charger. The side profile has upper and lower creases along with doors that are very similar to the side profile of the current Mercedes-Benz E-Class. The sloping rear roofline gives it a coupe-like Audi A7 fastback appearance.

All good things so far, until we get to the rear. There is really not much good to say about the rear.  I wouldn’t call it ugly per se, but it’s not on par with the rest of the car. This despite taillights reminiscent of the Buick LaCrosse but given the Honda “lobster claw” treatment.  The rear’s lack of beauty is offset by the overall shape and appearance of the car, which is on balance fairly nice to look at with enough sleek and athletic elements that I overlook the crustacean influence of the taillights. Despite my complaints, I admit the taillights do look cooler at night. The 19-inch ninja throwing star rims with black-painted inserts on the Sport trim are probably the most objectionable aspect of the design. I have mixed feelings about them as they are somewhat interesting to look at but detract from the vehicle’s otherwise “adult” demeanor.

Surprisingly, I think I have gotten more compliments on this car’s general appearance than any other new car I have ever owned.  OK, that’s probably less than a dozen compliments overall in the last nine months, and yeah, they are a little backhanded sometimes, like “that is pretty cool looking for an Accord”, but I’ll take it.

So how’s it drive? Shockingly well for a family sedan. Mind you, this Accord is a huge car. The long hood and short rear decklid hide its 192-inch-long proportions pretty well from most angles, save for direct side view. For perspective, it’s only a foot shorter than a Chevy Traverse.

Despite its size, the Accord has planted and confidence-inspiring handling. At speeds “theoretically” above legal highway limits, the Accord is hunkered down and gives you the feeling that it can handle more and wants more. Body roll is well controlled in corners.

Weight distribution, as you might expect, is skewed to the front wheels, but you have to push it pretty hard before you worry about the front tires giving up. Steering is direct but a little on the light and boosted side. The Accord strikes a better balance between firm and supple ride than most any other car I can think of. You immediately feel that the ride is firm, but it never crashes over road imperfections and always manages to soak up bumps very well. The suspension really has a great balance that just works in the real world.

The 2.0T paired to the 10-speed auto is really a fantastic team and sold me with just a few minutes behind the wheel. The 10-speed has been a joy so far, rapid-firing seamless shifts as you pile on the revs. Two-hundred seventy-three lb-ft of torque is available as soon as your right foot desires.

The power on tap feels like it pulls a lot harder from a stop than it does at 50-70 mph. While down on horsepower compared to its V6 Camry nemesis (252 vs 301), the Accord 2.0T just inches past the Camry in 0-60 and quarter-mile times in comparisons I’ve seen. Any way you slice it, very respectable for mainstream family sedans.

The Accord has a “sport” drive setting that hangs the revs and tightens the steering and throttle response in addition to piping in artificial engine note over the speakers. That last bit sounds lame, but the fake exhaust note sounds pretty nice from where I sit and I don’t really mind it. As anti-enthusiast as the piped-in noise is, I think I prefer it to driving a snarling, belching, and rumbling vehicle as my daily driver.

In my experience, the Accord pretty consistently hits 30 mpg at 79 mph on the highway. Around town, it averages 25 mpg.

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Not everything is great. For one thing, the brakes. They bite hard and very early in the pedal travel. It can be an unnatural feeling at times and can make the Accord difficult to drive smoothly, especially for those not accustomed to their operation. The largest fault I can find with the Accord, though, is something I walked into with my eyes wide open. That would be the car’s front-drive layout.

The Accord cannot effectively put down 273 torques to pavement from a stop or in any adverse road conditions without torque steer and/or wheelspin. If you gun it from a stoplight, your dreams of rapid acceleration will likely go up in smoke. The 2.0T requires a careful right foot to get rolling before putting the accelerator to the floor. It will chirp the front tires in gears one thru three if you go full throttle.

Should there be any moisture on the road, don’t even bother flooring it, you will be going nowhere.  Same if the front wheels are turned at pretty much any angle.  All-wheel drive would be a much-welcomed addition to harness all of the performance you paid for. Even a limited-slip differential would do wonders to cure the traction issue. Allegedly, the LSD from the Civic Type R can be transplanted into the Accord 2.0T, but I leased and enjoy having a warranty, so that’s not an option.

Not to mention that Honda is possibly intentionally kneecapping the Accord 2.0T so as not to infringe on the Civic Type R’s performance. Perhaps the brand is also trying to avoid losing profitable crossover sales by giving the Accord AWD. That said, as long as you have a careful rollout from a stop, the 2.0T is entertaining to drive fast, offering respectable performance for the price.

These are great times we live in when $30K buys you an enormously functional sedan weighing 3,300 lbs. but with full-sized car proportions, nimble handling, the ability to hit 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, and up to 30 mpg.

When I think of the wide appeal, equipment levels, performance, exterior styling, and exceedingly reasonable prices that the most recent crop of family sedans (Accord, Camry, Sonata, Altima, etc.) have collectively, I feel that the manufacturers have thrown everything they could at the wall to see what sticks, in hope of keeping the sedan relevant in an era of ever-encroaching crossover sales.

At the moment, I’m thankful to be the recipient of one of the products of such a competitive segment.  As the sedan continues to stumble at the hands of crossovers, I also believe that development dollars will find their way to more-profitable market segments as time marches on. This, my friends, could very well be peak family sedan. Get one while you can.

[Images: TheGamper, Honda. Honda images may be of the 2018 Accord, which is virtually identical to the 2019 model.]

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50 Comments on “Reader Review: 2019 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T – Peak Sedan...”


  • avatar
    Arthur Dailey

    Glad to see the return of ‘reader’ reviews. Particularly one as thorough as this one.

    Reading the low lease and used car prices in the USA make this Canadian a little sad.

    And in the future for our Canadian readers, please include our standard trunk and back seat measurement standards. How many hockey bags and hockey sticks will it hold. Many vehicle purchasing decisions up here are based primarily on that factor.

    • 0 avatar
      Tim Healey

      They never went away, technically. I think these were the first submitted in a long time, although it’s always possible a submission or two got buried in my inbox.

  • avatar
    jack4x

    Nice review.

    I also hope the reader reviews return on a regular basis. How would one go about submitting one?

    • 0 avatar
      Tim Healey

      Email me or the editors account. And be patient. Sometimes it takes some time before I get a chance to edit.

      • 0 avatar
        jack4x

        I guess what I meant was is there anything particular you’re looking to publish? I don’t mind writing about any of the cars I own but I’d rather not put in the effort if it’s not going to be posted.

        Thanks.

  • avatar
    Rnaboz

    Thanks for the great write up. Just curious about what OEM rubber is on the Accord, would switching to something that isn’t low rolling resistant solve the wheel spin in wet conditions.

    • 0 avatar
      sgeffe

      For the Touring and Sport, you’ll either get Michelin Primacy MXXMs or Goodyear-somethings, Assurances maybe. I managed to win the Michelin lottery again with my 2019 Touring, though perhaps the 2.0Ts get the Michelins. I know that at least one Sport 1.5T that was in my dealer’s service loaner fleet had the Goodyears.

      I echo @thegamper’s thoughts on starting up briskly from a stop—better to do a rolling start, especially in the wet! The tires also seemed a little skittish during the first couple of rainstorms I encountered at freeway speeds; fortunately, the communication to the wheel of the grip is pretty good, something that I’ve found Honda always does well.

  • avatar
    NormSV650

    I’d sacrifice the about an inch of interior seating area and double the trunk space for a Regal Sportback with torque vectoring AWD and 295 lb-ft of twist for similar price.

    • 0 avatar
      Nellakwah

      I’m starting to wonder if you are just a bot, that auto-replies to any Honda article with a Buick recommendation. Could an actual human want to waste that much time?

  • avatar
    Steve Biro

    A well-done user review. Thanks for the effort.

    Personal opinion: If the Hudson Hornet were still being made today… it would look like the current Honda Accord.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    Great review!

    I suspect the hatch you desire was most recently the former Honda Crosstour, which was not well-received, but I liked the Accord hatchbacks from circa 1980.

    • 0 avatar
      blppt

      The Crosstour was positively hideous. And it somehow managed to look even more objectionable in real life.

      Might have been a good car and all, but I don’t know what twisted mind sent that in as a final design.

      • 0 avatar
        RedRocket

        Really not a surprise when you look at the current-model Civic exterior design. Some of it even spills over onto this Accord. With Honda lately it is either utterly bland (Pilot, Passport, Ridgeline) or anime-extreme.

  • avatar
    SPPPP

    I appreciated this well-written and detailed review. I might have welcomed a few more sentences about the feel of the steering and body movements. Those items are subjective and therefore hard to describe, but I think a bit of extra effort may pay off.

    Also, if space permits, a little more comparison to other vehicles you know may help the reader. (Of course, an occasional reviewer has a smaller frame of reference than a professional reviewer, but those little anecdotes and nuggets still may help at least some readers understand your thoughts.)

    Congratulations on your new car! It sounds like you will enjoy it.

    • 0 avatar
      thegamper

      Thanks for the kind words guys. I will say that this Accord has a pretty dialed in suspension compared to other cars I have driven in the past on a long term basis. The front works well with the back end in every situation and just has great real world balance with sporting intentions that enthusiast family buyers will appreciate. Bound and rebound better controlled than cars I have driven regularly or test driven. The steering is quick, there is very little from the road that gets to the wheel so there is not a lot of feedback. I will also add that the car shrinks on the open road but in city handling you feel the long wheelbase. My car has Michelin Primacy 235/40 R19 tires. I do not know where to start to look for better tires that dont also sacrifice durability. There is probably an element of low rolling resistance as I have noticed some increased noise more lately on certain types of surfaces. For reference, I have had 2014 Mazda 6 (6MT), 2011 Maxima, 2006 Mazdaspeed6, 2002 Mazda Protege5 even a few Volvo 240s as my personal rides, my wife has always driven crossovers which I have spent a lot of time driving but are not really comparable. It would be difficult for me to do a comparison to current competition with the limited amount of time I have spent in them. I will say that my overall feeling was that the Accord was a sharper tool and perhaps the most practical and well rounded for the money. If you like the styling, its a pretty easy choice. It compares pretty favorably in handling to my old 2014 Mazda6, less body roll, more power, more engine refinement, less noise but a little less soul and personality too.

      • 0 avatar
        Drew8MR

        When I replaced the tires on my wife’s CRV, road noise was my number 1 priority. My tire guy threw on some grand touring Kumhos and the improvement was very noticeable.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    I’ll keep this one on my radar as long as they keep offering manual transmission with the 2.0T and sport package. That isn’t out of any “manual purity” but due to having some desire for my next vehicle to take a good look at manuals before age or bad knees or something makes it an impossibility.

    Congrats on the Accord – part of a long line of unappreciated sedans.

    • 0 avatar
      Eliyahu

      You might want to test drive first. When I was Accord shopping in late 2015, I drove a MT 4 cylinder. I thought the ratios were too closely spaced for day-to-day driving. I opted for a used 2014 EX-L 4 cyl CVT, and it’s been great. My only complaint is that the seats are a little hard and I notice the road imperfections, of which there are many. All in all, it’s been a great replacement for my 2001 Maxima V6 with 4 speed auto.
      to thegamper- Nice review-I suspected you’ll still be pleased at the end of the lease.

    • 0 avatar
      TomSnow

      I wouldn’t expect the manual Accord to last too much longer. They’re pretty rare so used availability wont be great. That said, I daily a 2.0t 6spd and I love it. I don’t find the ratios an issue, it will do 60mph in 3rd. The clutch is pretty gnarly, I suspect it’s closely related to the type-r unit. It’s very on/off with little feel for engagement and all the action is in the top 2″ or so. Took me literally weeks to get smooth and this is my 3rd manual DD in a row.

    • 0 avatar
      ABC-2000

      No more manual Accord, production stopped in Dec 2019 but they did not tell anyone!

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    I had a new Maxima as a rental for the past few weeks since my Challenger GT awd is still in the body shop. It’s ok with the only saving grace being the very smooth VQ 3.5 V6. But underwhelming considering it’s about $6-8k more than this seemingly better Accord.

  • avatar
    dwford

    “But I just so happened to be near a Honda dealership when I was out test-driving another car. I had seen pictures of the new Accord and thought they did a pretty nice job on the styling. I ended up leasing the very Accord model I test drove that day.”

    In case you are wondering why car salesmen are pushing so hard to close you RIGHT NOW. This would be why…

  • avatar
    3800FAN

    My only beef with the accord 2.0 and 1.4t sport are rhe 19″ wheels. They look great but the tiny sidewall ruins the ride. I test drove the 2018 sport and the ride was sooo harsh and when i hit a small pothole it felt like metal against asphalt. My 2015 has 17″ and it makes all the difference. Honda and all oems need to ditch big wheel low profile tires.

    • 0 avatar
      sgeffe

      I wasn’t real keen on the 19”-ers either, in order to get all the toys! Certainly, minus-one-ing could have been an option, but I took a cheaper way out and purchased a wheel/tire warranty.

      Said warranty has paid for a tire which picked up a nail in such a way that the tire couldn’t be repaired, and despite my best efforts, I’ve picked up a couple bits of curb rash which need addressing. Made it through part of pothole season unscathed, then everything went viral!

    • 0 avatar
      ABC-2000

      You are not the only one not happy with the 19″, I simply took the 2018 EX-L 2.0T with navigation, for what I do, 17″ is more than enough, the only thing I actually missing is the HUD that comes with the Turing.

    • 0 avatar
      MorrisGray

      Exactly!There is absolutely no reason to exceed 18″ wheels and 17″ would be even better in my opinion. At least make them an option for buyers to get what they want…. ?

  • avatar
    baggins

    Entertaining and educational to read. More reviews like this will have be back at TTAC more frequently. Thanks to the reader who took the time and effort to write it up.

    As for teh accord, I owned an example of the each of the generations prior to this one. (had a 2011 and a 2017).

    I am 6’4 with a long torso/short legs, and this latest generation just felt lower and more vertically cramped. Never made the list as a potential replacement.

    I am in a crossover now.

  • avatar
    conundrum

    Excellent review. Congrats on your new Accord! It was initially a toss-up between this car in the trim you seem to have and the Mazda6 turbo for me, coming from a 2008 Subaru LGT.

    I first drove both within a hour of each other, due to the lucky happenstance that the two dealers were across the street from each other. So I got to drive the exact same circuit in both over the same city potholes, and decent four laner but with a flaking concrete surface on an overpass that the Subaru never liked, and the Mazda never noticed at a speed that was 20mph over the limit it was so quiet with lovely sense of the straight ahead. Great steering, but the Accord was just about as good.

    Neither car was as good overall as the Subie, but the gap between it and the 2014 models of both these cars had been significantly narrowed. And current Subie Legacy wobblers had become a joke with a rubber band transmission.

    The obvious differences for me between two cars retailing between $500 of each other were the Mazda interior was far richer than the Accord with its weird fabric slidy seat inserts and dull sheen, a transmission that was a true manumatic in the Mazda allowing easy gear hold, useful in our hilly country, and almost identical in operation with the paddles and gear lever to my LGT. The Accord was saddled with the crazy pushbuttons and no way to hold a gear coming down the long steep hill on the thruway into the city where speed limits are gradually reduced to 30mph downhill. Paddle pecking eventually got you down from 10th to fourth, but if you breathed on the throttle it would revert to D and then brakes were needed. No problem in the Mazda to use engine compression instead of brakes and no reversion to D if you adjusted speed by throttle – just tap the gear lever to the left to hold a gear after using the paddle. I found the Accord better in our particular city driving, and liked the zip zip zip motorcycle-style full throttle acceleration from stop. The Mazda had been the more effortless highway cruiser though and I live in the country just outside the city. Tire noise was also prominent in the Accord beyond about 15 mph, noisier than my LGT on performance Michelins!

    I didn’t buy either car at the time, just looking, along with over a dozen other cars. Later that year I drove a new Genesis G70 2.0t at an “auto fair” held in the twin city across the harbor from my initial drive. Haven’t been as underwhelmed with a new car since the BRZ back in 2012. Next door, by luck, was the other Mazda dealer in my area, so I got a ride in a Mazda6 Signature as a way of shaking my head to get it clear and make sure I hadn’t been dreaming. No comparison on the same test route – I far preferred it to the G70, whose shifter was useless, automatic languid, tramlining on ruts, rear tire noise, no juice and as about as sporting as a dumpling. Eww.

    Almost another year later, I needed to get rid of the LGT for various mechanical maladies, all related to rust on a 12 year old car. I tried the Accord and Mazda6 again. This is Canada, so the Accord Sport had gone up in price, but the Mazda had not, and so I decided on it just because I liked it a bit better. The model I got isn’t available in the US, the GS-L with 17 inch rubber and lightly optioned. Still has fake leather, radar ACC and all the electronic doo-dads though as the next up GT, but minus the ventilated seats and steerable headlights. It isn’t exactly stripped. It was delivered in faultless condition, not a nit to pick and has remained that way.

    A year later, I can’t say I’m in love with the car. It’s no LGT, the rear IRS is a bit suspect on poor surface cornering when one is having a go, but the engine is lion-hearted and dominates the car — that aspect I do love along with the transmission. 310 lb-ft of torque at 2,000 rpm gets it rolling like right now, and it wafts the back country roads at far too high a speed compared to the posted limits. Like the Accord it needs AWD, and it’s only been fed premium which is about 27c/US gal more expensive here than regular. It did far better than I expected this past winter on full snows and light throttle. Then the damn virus hit. It’s averaged about 25 mpg US even with lotsa warming up – I keep a litle book for my fillups, something I’ve done for decades as a habit. Compared to the old LGT it’s an economy car, and the fit ‘n finish is in another league of better. I don’t look for leases, I buy. The car listed out at C$36K incl shipping ($27K US) plus taxes, but I got a better deal with my trade and a genyooine Mazda remote start thrown in. Hell, sedans are lot poison, but I like them. And it is in Titanium, a non-US color, which is a great fit with the wheels.

    For those who wonder — yes it has rear compartment A/C vent controls which have proven useful. Not a bad buggy for the money at all, and way cheaper than the Germans. Plus this model is made only in Japan, and as I said seems flawlessly made to me. After 40+ years of new car buying, I liked that because it never happened before.

    I can understand the choosing of the Accord 2.0t. Just wanted to offer a counterpoint. Most people seem set on some CUV or another. I drove over two dozen cars these past few years in my quest, and my opinion, for what it’s worth, is that these two cars give you the best bang for your buck if you want some comfort above the compact car levels, and a bit of go at the same time. Just watch the torque steer.

    Different topic — since I see the flibbertigibbet world champion auto forum troll since 2008 NormSV650 has already put his foot in the door above — I am NOT interested in your opinion. You can keep orphaned Opels sold as Buicks, Norm — GM never backs their imports properly and getting proper service on a weirdo among a sea of Silverados with which the techs are actually familiar? No thanks.

  • avatar
    jalop1991

    “In my experience, the Accord pretty consistently hits 30 mpg at 79 mph on the highway. Around town, it averages 25 mpg.”

    Really? That’s all? Those are pitiful numbers for sneaking up on MY2021. 25mpg????

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      At 79mph, even the new Rav4 hybrid likely drop below 30. An insane amount of engineering, aero and tuning, have allowed CUV mileage to be pretty decent at EPA speeds, but it sinks like a rock once you approach, not to mention exceed, 80.

      For better mileage, particularly city, the 1.5 with the CVT is the way to go. Despite being a 4, the 2.0 is the V6 replacement. It should be compared with those, not with the frugal offerings.

  • avatar
    teddyc73

    Still using the overused trendy term “peak”.

  • avatar
    detlump

    Any updates on the issue of oil dilution? Gas in oil = not good.

    The Interweb is replete with stories about this. Apparently a new oil is out now for these engines. It does seem that Honda “Motor” Company dropped the ball on this.

  • avatar
    Daniel J

    I really wanted to buy one of these when they first came out. I really liked the car. At 6’2, my right knee was touching the dash right under the start button. I’m a large guy, and most 6’2 folks probably fit just fine.

    Ended up with a Mazda 6 Grand Touring Reserve.

  • avatar
    EasternJC

    I’ve owned a 2018 Accord Touring with the 1.5 T and CVT. My long commute necessitates the fuel sipper.

    My experience with the car is similar to the OP. Even with the 1.5 on wet you can break the tires loose. The low profile and large wheels make pothole avoidance a must. I’ve hit a few that I was worried had knocked something loose. The 1.5 has been flawless. Great economy and adequate performance. The car handles and stops well although the brakes could definitely be larger and less dead feel. My experience with the nanny system is the same as OP. It gets confused quite often, Does not work in heavy rain or snow. Seems frightened by white or silver vans and trucks or snowbanks. The system slams on the brakes unexpectedly in a non reassuring way. I’ve taken to turning off the systems whenever there is a sign of snow or heavy rain. The brakes seem to be a weak point on the car as the rotors and pads were replaced at about 16 K miles.

    The car is white pearl with cream and black interior. In my opinion the car is very well styled and looks great from all angles. At 6’5″ I have problems getting into most vehicles and I detest trucks. These issues together limit my choices when it comes to acquiring a new vehicle.

    In 2018 I cross shopped the Impala, Cadillac ATS4, and Toyota Camry. The Mazda 6 was too small, and I never considered Lexus. Having owned several VW, BMW and Mercedes products in the past, I have an aversion to anything from the German manufacturers.

    The Camry’s engine was farm implement smooth and with the option packages mandated sunroof, I was unable to find a comfortable position without the sunroof touching my head. The Cadillac was too tight in the interior space as well which eliminated it from the list. The Impala was nice, but the dealer wanted to play dealer games which resulted in my walking out on them.

    Overall I am impressed with the Accord. I have not owned a Honda since my University era CVCC. Most Honda’s since then where a non start for me due to my inability to shoehorn myself into them. I will probably shop Honda again when I comes time to turn this one in (Lease).

  • avatar
    Superdessucke

    Unfortunately, I think the only question now is when annual Accord sales dip below 150,000. Sales are dramatically down for 2020 with just over 88,000 sold half way through the year. Granted some of that is COVID related but sales have consistently been dropping since 2014.

    Relatedly, I thought Honda switched to quarterly sales reporting? But goodcarbadcar.com has monthly totals still. Honestly, it was a lot better to only be disappointed 4 times a year, not 12 times!

    • 0 avatar
      thegamper

      I was sort of surprised when I leased the Accord in September 2019 that the residual was like 51% after 45kmiles (as I recall). I think ten years ago they would have been around 65% for same mileage on an Accord. Speaks volumes about demand for sedans and where the market is headed. The business case for sedans will disappear for all but a few models as time marches on, similar to what we see with minivans over the past two decades. The ones that remain were sales leaders, no other OEMs could justify keeping them around. So just a matter of holding out long enough to survive the cull. Helps to be on scalable architecture, deep parts bin shared across models and a model that can be sold worldwide.

  • avatar
    Power6

    Great review! I am surprised that you didn’t gravitate from the V60 T6 over to the S60 T6 since you were willing to accept a sedan. The situation with wagons is self perpetuating as illustrated by Volvo, the S60s are flooding the dealers from the new South Carolina plant while the V60s dribble out as special orders or dealers that bring a couple in. Discounts were scarce, so someone like me, who would always take the wagon, is now facing the “same car” sedan is almost $10k cheaper than the wagon, and I end up as a sedan buyer, and the cycle goes on.

    Anyways, I considered the Accord Sport for one reason only…the stick. But it was a bit of a let down, as I realized the manual trans may be for the sporty sort of guy, but the rest of the car isn’t quite there, as a “sport” Accord. It reminded me of my Mom’s old Audi 100CS. She always drove a stick, and that was cool, but it was still a big soft car. I would have taken a Civic Si sedan if the Volvo hadn’t worked in my budget.

    But the budget was there and I scored a 2019 S60 T6 R Design with the ridiculousy cheap but somewhat hard to find $200 “Sport Chassis” option. I have to deal with the automatic, but the Super-turbo T6 works pretty well, and the ride/handling is most excellent for someone who like their ride a bit on the stiff side.

    I was looking at cars in the 30s and you’d think the Volvo is way out of that so I had only checked it out because a good friend turned me on to it. I got a low option car so the sticker was just over $50k, I could live without the sorta-self driving stuff and headlight washers or the $3k B&W stereo. Discounts brought that down to $39k and now we are getting in the budget. I paid $1K down and $423 a month for 15k/yr lease (which turned out to be a bad bet with Covid, I am at 9800 miles over a year in!). More expensive than an Accord but it worked for me. I liked the GTI too, but you would basically pay the same to lease a mid level $32k GTI as I did for my $50k Volvo so again I gave up on a manual.

    If they offered a true “sport” suspension in the sport Accord, that probably would have been enough for me. But I do really like the Volvo in a way that I never thought I would.

  • avatar
    sgeffe

    I echo everyone’s sentiments about a very well-written and comprehensive review!

    I’ve had my 2019 Accord Touring 2.0T since June 5th of last year. I traded up from a 2013 Accord Touring, which only had LED headlights and adaptive cruise control as the two extras over an Accord EXL-V6 with Navigation. In my current car, LED high-beam headlights, navigation, rain-sensing wipers, vented front seats and heated rear seats, adaptive dampers, a wireless phone charger, auto reverse-tilt down on the passenger mirror, a HUD, an additional courtesy light or two, and parking sensors are the big extras over and above an EXL Accord (heated leather seats on an EX car), which I believe is available with either engine. About the only thing left out of that trim that other high-zoot Hondas have is power-folding mirrors. And I can’t figure out why the front turn signals are LED, but the rears are regular bulbs, particularly when everything else on the exterior is LED, including the brights on Tourings.

    I agree that anything but the bright chrome unibrow on the front of the car looks halfway decent, and in my case, I went with Radiant Red Metallic for my Accord (having seen that color on the first Accord shown in the reveal video for this generation a couple years ago in Detroit, and liking the color, which is very close to the Torino Red Pearl of my first Honda and new car, a 1994 Civic EX sedan), which helps to mitigate awkwardness of the rear. The heaviness of the front is helped by the black Sport Grille, which helps to mitigate that weighty vibe; actually, given the appearance of the Pilot and Odyssey MMCs, the look of the Sport Grille might actually foreshadow the Accord MMC—we’ll probably learn more in a few weeks.

    The interior is fantastic, but a couple bits could have been executed better with an eye toward squeak and rattle mitigation, namely the door over the compartment below the center stack, as well as the cover over the cameras by the mirror. The latter will probably be solved with a couple pieces of Honda “squeak tape,” and I’m sure that the dealer can do something about the squeaky door. Other than that, after my car had a in/out detail to remove the vestiges of winter in mid-March, the car has been in virtual COVID hibernation, as I’ve been working from home since March 20th, and I’ve been trying to avoid exposure when possible, so the interior looks as good as new!

    I differ from @thegamper a little in my experiences with some of the HondaSensing bits. The Lane-Keep Assist (LKAS) in my car will track down the center of a lane very nicely, and will even assist with the gentlest curves, but it’s not intended to be, and isn’t, anything more than a small driving aid, allowing you to concentrate more on situational awareness of the environment. (This has also been true on two other dealer service loaner Accords I’ve driven.) You do need to set the Adaptive Cruise following distance to the closest setting, or you will end up falling behind; I also will let the car stop itself when the speed goes below 20mph using the low-speed follow feature, which the stickshifts didn’t have—that is an absolute Godsend in stop-and-go. And I’ve yet to have a false alarm with the auto-brake. As far as the auto-brights, the couple times I’ve used them, they seemed to do alright, but you do have to be ready to override them by using the flash-to-pass.

    @thegamper did the right thing by grabbing a manual Sport, as Honda previewed coming attractions over the last couple of days, and as the creeping scourge of amorphous automotive blobs on stilts continues to Pac-Man its way across the automotive landscape like a cancer, it’s now official that the manual transmission is consigned to the scrap pile of history in the family car segment, as Honda officially pulled the plug on the Accord stick after building the last one in December of 2019. Of all manufacturers, HyundKia is supposed to be be bringing out a high-performance option for the Sonata and K5, but even that might only come with their DCT, if anything.

  • avatar
    Nedmundo

    Great review, and thanks for making the effort. I’ve driven both 6MT and 10AT versions of the Accord Sport 2.0T, and to the extent I remember, I agree with all the driving impressions. I’ve been an MT die-hard for years, but the 10AT works extremely well with the 2.0T so I was considering it even before learning the 6MT had disappeared.

    However, I found the ride slightly harsh. It’s better than the Mazda6 Grand Touring, which also has 19″ wheels, but still a little rough for Philadelphia’s battered streets. After my last test, I immediately started pricing 18″ wheel/tire packages on TireRack. (I also drove the 1.5T/6MT Sport, and with the lighter front end it has a slightly better ride.)

    Also, the edges of the 19″ wheels protrude slightly, which is an invitation to massive curb rash. Indeed, around the city I see many of these wheels are massively scuffed, even though by definition they can’t be that old.

    On the whole, I agree the Accord Sport 2.0T is excellent, and offers an outstanding value. If it weren’t so big, I might have one already, but I want something smaller for the city.

    • 0 avatar
      sgeffe

      I was half-tempted to look into minus-one options for tires and wheels, but in the end, I went with a wheel/tire warranty. Despite my best efforts, I picked up a little curb rash on two of the wheels over the winter, and just before the world went viral, I had to have one of the tires replaced after I picked up a nail, and the dealer couldn’t repair it. Both of these were or will be covered under that warranty.

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