By on February 10, 2017

2018 toyota rav4 adventure

You’d never know it from the Internet, where the Code Of Hammurabi rules with an iron hand and people on the forums are comfortable recommending the death penalty for everything from “stancing” your car to the unjustified application of an AMG badge purchased on eBay — hold on, I kind of agree with that last one — but it is probably not a crime not to use every last iota of your vehicle’s rated capabilities. You’re allowed to own a sportbike without racing it in WERA or doing a 140-mph stand-up wheelie past a police station. It’s morally acceptable for you to purchase a Porsche 911 Targa and never run it in any sort of Targa event whatsoever. And, as difficult as you may find this to believe, not everybody who acquired a Chevy Monte Carlo was a native citizen of, or even a past visitor to, the Principality of Monaco.

Still, it’s difficult not to feel a minor bit of disdain for the various pretensions that currently animate the automotive market. Not that you’ll pick that up from reading the new-car coverage at Chicago. Most of us don’t feel comfortable doing much more than what’s encapsulated by Pope’s delightful turn of eighteenth-century phrase: Damn with faint praise, assent with civil leer, / And without sneering, teach the rest to sneer.

Let’s take a break from that not-quite-good-natured approach for a moment.


This year we’ve seen all sorts of vehicles ostensibly re-designed for something that virtually none of them will ever do. I’m looking at you, RAV4 Adventure … It’s gonna be a real adventure parking at those community-college night classes. You too, Colorado ZR2; how big are the rocks outside the Applebee’s you’re managing, anyway?

So let’s talk about the worst and the best of these Action Packages out there. Which ones are a total joke? Which ones offer real utility and improvements that will go completely unused? Which is more tragic, anyway?

I’m going to cast my vote for the Toyota “Pre-Runners” out there. It’s a 2WD pickup pretending to be a 4WD pickup! But we call it “pre-runner” why exactly? Because you might take it to Baja? More like you might take it to Baja Fresh, dude! Am I right? Of course I’m right!

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124 Comments on “QOTD: Choose Your Own (Fake) Adventure...”


  • avatar
    Demon Something

    People Susceptible to Marketing. Film at 11

    • 0 avatar
      Flipper35

      Exactly This is how we end up with a coffee chain that sells coffee that tastes like charcoal being one of the most popular on the planet. Marketing.

      • 0 avatar
        indi500fan

        The guy made half a bil in 9 years on that deal…selling coffee.
        Truly impressive marketing.

      • 0 avatar
        Ol Shel

        It’s hard for some people to accept that some other people don’t agree with them. Their fragile egos need to believe that they’re always right.

        People buy these things because they want them. If nobody wanted them, they wouldn’t exist.

        Those who complain about things like this live empty lives that lack meaning. You won’t find many folks who volunteer, save lives, and devote time to those in need complaining about limited-edition automotive trim packages.

  • avatar
    romanjetfighter

    This is just the way people try to convince themselves they’re exciting, that they can escape the banality and tedious routine. And also there’s cachet in partaking in leisure outdoors activities. Like a scuba diving watch that is water resistant to 100 meters, or North Face or Patagonia jackets, or duck boots or Barbour jackets. People want to pretend they’re the type of people who actually hike, ski, dive. These are very costly, transient activities.

    • 0 avatar
      sportyaccordy

      I don’t see how they are any more wrong than folks who think they are ordained by God for choosing to still drive stickshift…. as if there aren’t Eastern Bloc grandmas doing it too.

      • 0 avatar
        OldManPants

        “drive stickshift…. as if there aren’t Eastern Bloc grandmas doing it too.”

        I’ll violate my self-ban on stepping in any baruth to say that’s marvelous and you are a clever chap.

        Yeah, I sound funny… holding my nose.

        • 0 avatar
          gtemnykh

          “as if there aren’t Eastern Bloc grandmas doing it too.”

          Factually incorrect. In my experience it is extremely rare to see a woman of that older generation behind the wheel of a vehicle, unless she is a widower or very wealthy. All driving and vehicle maintenance duties fall squarely on the husband’s shoulders. Although it is worth mentioning that many women in the Soviet Union were trained to drive 2 ton trucks (as well as extensive first aid) as a sort of war-emergency training. My mom learned to drive a GAZ-51 with a non-synchronized transmission and manual steering, carting her hung over driving instructor around town. Anything but a “fake adventure” :p

      • 0 avatar
        iNeon

        Others are allowed their sins.

      • 0 avatar
        indi500fan

        LOL the most impressive part of my vacation to the UK was watching young women drive stick shift cars in gridlock traffic while drinking coffee, smoking, and texting….and occasional mascara/lipstick touchups.

      • 0 avatar
        Arthur Dailey

        ‘sporty’ do we detect a hint of ‘3rd pedal envy’?

    • 0 avatar
      S2k Chris

      Heavy duty jackets and duck boots may be currently trendy, but in certain places they are super practical as well. I’ve worn my duck boots in the woods for days on end while hunting, but they also work really well in the slop while snowblowing my suburban driveway or trudging through my office parking lot. And you’ll be thrilled with that heavy North Face when it’s 4* and a 20mph wind and you’re walking across the parking lot to your car. Serious winter gear is no joke in the northern states, even if you’re not climbing Everest.

      • 0 avatar
        jlbg

        I was at a birthday party for a 26 yr old and there were at least 6 girls there wearing llBean boots. Whatever, fine, girls wear trendy warm things. The problem I had, was the 3 dudes wearing them too. That’s a bridge too far. This was on a sunny, 50degree day in a city that hasn’t had any snow this year.

        • 0 avatar
          JimC2

          Yeah… those weren’t dudes.

        • 0 avatar
          S2k Chris

          I mean, I grew up in New England. I/we wore Bean Boots in the winter, and Sperry Topsiders in the summer. Have since I was a kid. Just how it is, man.

          • 0 avatar

            Same here as a middle class kid who grew up in New England (with Summer vacations in Maine every year) I’ve been wearing LL bean and Sperry (OK Dexter when they were still around) my entire life.

          • 0 avatar
            -Nate

            Damned rich kids ! grumble, grumble .
            .
            I had to make do with WWII surplus boot as a child in New England .
            .
            GET OFFA MY LAWN DAMMIT ! .

            -Nate

        • 0 avatar
          krhodes1

          Bean boot suck in actual snow, as they have about as much traction as cat a on a linoleum floor, at least with the original chain pattern sole. That said, I’ve had them my entire life, because I grew up 5 miles from where they are made and my Great Aunt Marge was one of the ladies who stitched them.

  • avatar
    romanjetfighter

    And hilarious they take out the V6 and try to make up for it with black painted rims.

  • avatar
    ajla

    1. 4 cylinder luxury cars
    2. 4 cylinder luxury cars
    3. 2WD Ram Rebel
    4. 4 cylinder luxury cars

    • 0 avatar
      tnk479

      I don’t like it any more than you do but 4-cylinder luxury cars are an invention of government regulations, not people being poseurs. Now that we are hearing that government finally figured out that 4-banger turbos emissions are specifically designed to ace the contrived emissions test, we may see a reversal.

      • 0 avatar
        heavy handle

        re “4-cylinder luxury cars are an invention of government regulations”

        Is this a World Government thing? Because fours are sold all over the world, and especially popular in China and Europe.

        I don’t have a problem with four cylinder luxury cars myself, but I do have a problem with most Big-3 fours. They feel like the main design brief is to get people to “upgrade” to a six or eight, so they generally suck.

        • 0 avatar
          ajla

          “… to get people to “upgrade” to a six or eight, so they generally suck.”

          I wish there was an eight to even upgrade to. The only V8 car available among Cadillac, Buick, and Lincoln is the rabies-infused CTS-V.

        • 0 avatar
          JimZ

          “Is this a World Government thing?”

          in a sense, yes. we have CAFE, Europe has high fuel prices and taxation based on engine displacement, China has taxation based on engine displacement, India taxes based on the size of the car and its engine, etc…

          • 0 avatar
            Pch101

            Europeans have largely gotten out of the displacement taxation business. The EU has moved to the equivalent of a CAFE system.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            Asia has enough taxes and rules based on engine displacement to keep the 2.0T (and 1.5T) in business for a very long time.

            I just wish some of those 2.0Ts would have more than four cylinders.

          • 0 avatar
            JimZ

            for a given displacement, more cylinders lowers the engine’s efficiency due to a higher chamber/cylinder surface area to volume ratio.

      • 0 avatar
        VoGo

        ” 4-cylinder luxury cars are an invention of government regulations”

        Please show proof that the US Government regulators have taken control of Audi.

        And BMW. And Mercedes. And Volvo. And Jaguar. And Lexus.

    • 0 avatar
      sportyaccordy

      How is a 4 banger luxury car a “choose your own fake adventure”? If anything it’s exactly the kind of honesty JB wants. If cylinder count mattered CADILLAC would not be selling 4 banger flagships.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        …or another way, if CADILLAC mattered four cylinder count motors would not be in flagships for sale.

      • 0 avatar
        ajla

        “If anything it’s exactly the kind of honesty JB wants.”

        I’ll let Jack speak to his agreement on that.

        ————–

        I don’t find the current crop of 4-cylinder turbos to be especially luxurious. Either from a NVH or power delivery perspective (output is generally fine). I think that goes along with “the various pretensions that currently animate the automotive market” idea.

        But yes, an E300 is not an “adventure” package.

    • 0 avatar
      Wunsch

      4-cylinder luxury cars don’t bother me. I think it’s a side-effect of my vehicle history. I owned several V6-powered GM cars, all fairly mundane, and then finally got to the point in my life where I could afford something further up the scale. I bought an A3, and found that the 2.0T was more fun than the 3.2 V6, so I bought that. I owned it for six and a half years, and really enjoyed it.

      So for me, a V6 sounds slightly inappropriate in a premium car, whereas an I4 doesn’t bother me. The effortless of the low-end torque provided by a turbo seems appropriate to the mission.

      • 0 avatar
        sportyaccordy

        They are hardly new either. Audi has been selling legitimate luxury cars with 4 bangers here for 20+ years with the intro of the B5 A4. The 318is and 190Es were never really respected.

        Not to mention these 2.0Ts are not far off from V8s from not even 20 years ago……… an A6 2.0T Quattro is faster than an old A6 4.2 by a decent margin; a 528i is within range of an old 540iA; an E300 is only half a second off the pace of an old E430. All while getting probably like 50% better fuel economy. A lot of that is due to transmissions and aerodynamics but progress is progress.

    • 0 avatar
      dal20402

      I wouldn’t buy a 4-cylinder luxury car, but they make perfect sense for a lot of buyers. I can think of several people I know who would be very well served by an A6 2.0T.

  • avatar
    stevelovescars

    $15,000 performance packages on a Porsche that will never see track duty? It isn’t just off road pretensions that are somewhat silly. Not to argue that carbon ceramic brakes aren’t awesome… just that they aren’t necessary on a street car that already has some of the best equipment in the world stock.

    The other issue that bothers me more than 4-cylinders in luxury cars are the crazy-large diameter wheels that seemingly destroy the ride on so many cars these days. It isn’t as if they are fitting huge disk brakes under there… or that the super low profile tires really give much of a handling improvement during your daily commute. These are as much fashion statements as “pre-runner” trim is on a truck, but actually make the cars WORSE to drive.

    • 0 avatar
      baconator

      To compound the irony, guys who take their modern Porsches to the track will more often than not swap out the carbon discs for regular metal discs. You don’t need the extra thermal capacity in a 20-minute lapping session, and they get shredded often enough that the replacement cost becomes untenable for guys that do track days.

      I’m also with you 100% on the silliness of big rims. I actually replaced factory wheels with smaller-diameter ones on both an Audi A4 and a Mini Cooper. In both cases the bigger sizes fitted along with the sport suspension package made it feel like the struts were going to pop right up through the hood.

  • avatar
    GS 455

    The Chevy Silverado Realtree Special Edition: 20 inch black painted aluminum wheels with all-terrain tires, blackout Chevy bowtie emblems, bigger bolder Z71 badging (to help you drive over boulders?) embroidered head restraints, and my favorite, Realtree exterior camouflage graphics (are you supposed to sneak up on a moose in this thing?).

  • avatar
    iNeon

    No apologies and no pretending– I would trade 5mpg in the Dart to have Cherokee’s ride height and suspension.

    I don’t want Jeep branding nor Jeep styling, just a more usable car from one of the American brands. Journey is too old and stodgy, Pacifica is too large. Renegade isn’t serious about anything and I find Cherokee in the sweet spot– but I don’t really care to project an outdoorsy image to be able to handle parking lot entrances without scraping the belly of the car.

  • avatar
    kvndoom

    Anything with a “Limited” badge on it.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    What a bunch of miserable pricks. JFC. Next QOTD should be why the B&B loves to get riled up over nothing.

    These goofy choose your own adventure packages are no sillier than pretty much anything that can get to 60 in under 7 seconds. Our excesses are no less ridiculous. Personally I am happy to live in a country and time of so much automotive choice, even if much of it isn’t to my tastes.

    • 0 avatar
      carguy67

      “These goofy choose your own adventure packages are no sillier than pretty much anything that can get to 60 in under 7 seconds.”

      I find my Mustang GT’s 0-60 in under 6 seconds to be very useful in heavy–and fast–SF Bay Area traffic (although the 20-80 acceleration is probably even more useful). But, I’m one of the drivers who don’t expect others to have to slow down to accommodate me.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Honestly the RAV4 Adventurer (AWD por favor) is the first RAV4 since the original that I actually have any desire for. But that’s because I want the increased cooling, transmission cooling etc even though I never intend to tow anything – those things help extend the life of the vehicle. (The same reason I was happy to locate a Highlander with tow package even though I never intend to tow anything.)

    Back to (fake) adventure – 99% of “Special Edition” Mustangs.

    • 0 avatar
      spreadsheet monkey

      Indeed.

      I don’t see the problem with RAV4 Adventure – it’s a tow package and a few cosmetic extras for a reasonable price. If people want to buy it and never take it offroad, who cares?

    • 0 avatar
      Jeff Weimer

      Tow packages FT reliability W.

    • 0 avatar
      dukeisduke

      Yep. My last truck (’95 F-150) came with the “super engine cooling” package, but not a towing package. So, an HD (two row) aluminum radiator, beefy transmission cooler behind the grille, power steering cooler, and bigger fan.

    • 0 avatar
      Carlson Fan

      Can I order the the RAV4 Adventure with a factory a receiver hitch and 7 pin trailer connector? If not, it’s a silly package.

      • 0 avatar

        My In laws in 2005 ordered a RAV4 V6 with tow package but no hitch. They still have it now and it has an aftermarket hitch and 7 pin plug (they used it tow a popup for a while). The factory hitch with towing packages is relatively new. I believe it was still installed by the dealer on jeeps for instance until a few years ago.

    • 0 avatar
      fincar1

      I agree there…a base Mustang GT is just fine.

    • 0 avatar
      DC Bruce

      This. When I bought our ’08 Pilot new, the dealer worked hard to try and sell me a “towing package” which, if memory serves, consisted of a tranny fluid (and maybe oil) cooler along with a hitch. I said I had zero interest in towing anything with it and that was that. No sale on the package.

      At the time, I was blissfully unaware of the troubled history of Honda’s V-6 engine/transmission combination. In retrospect, I think the dealer was probably trying to sell me this to forestall a warranty claim. Fortunately for me, Honda had apparently rectified those problems by the 2008 model, and my Pilot has been trouble-free for 115,000 miles.

      I was telling the truth when I said I had no intention of towing anything with it. I bought the pickup in the photo for that purpose, including all of the “packages.”

    • 0 avatar
      EMedPA

      Exactly. And a small utility trailer can be a handy thing to have.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    Good premise but the conclusion feels too abrupt for a Baruth piece.

  • avatar
    JimC2

    V8 “rumble” that gets V8 fanbois hot and bothered. Newsflash- that “rumble” is the uneven exhaust pulses from your cylinders fighting each other and making *less* horsepower. OH SNAP!

    I will now enter the witness relocation program.

  • avatar
    Dave W

    I gave up on this back in the 70s when the domestics were selling “GT” cars of which there were no open versions, “Spiders” with roofs, and my favorite “Sport” packages that only included a tach if you got an automatic.

  • avatar
    JimZ

    I wonder how many Raptors ever leave the pavement.

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      Two high school principal’s in my district, happened to be brothers-in-law. One drove an old LeSabre and a 1980s F150 the other bought a brand new Raptor.

      Raptor driver calls up his brother-in-law and says: Can I borrow your truck?

      F150 Driver says: Didn’t you just buy a truck?

      Raptor driver: Yeah but I don’t want to scratch it.

      From what I see that’s typical of many Raptor owners. Too “nice” to use as intended.

      • 0 avatar
        ajla

        This why I don’t understand why Ford won’t bring back the Lightning (in 4-door form) or Ram won’t do a Hellcat truck.

        I don’t think buyers are nesecarily looking for Baja machines. What they want is something big with phenomenal cosmic power that they can keep shiny.

        • 0 avatar
          PrincipalDan

          True, 2wd, lowered, big old honking engine all from the factory. I think they would sell. Heck if Chevy did a modern follow up to the 454 SS and the Cyclone the’d likely sell in better numbers than the current Camaro.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            Lowered doesn’t work anymore. Everyone has to be as high as possible.

            I think a Raptor without any of the off-road gear (or even 4WD) but at $7500 off would sell like gangbusters, though.

      • 0 avatar
        JimZ

        “Raptor driver: Yeah but I don’t want to scratch it.”

        F-150 driver: “Hey, do me a favor and tell me if this sounds like a phone hanging up.” *click*

      • 0 avatar
        Willyam

        I drive 15 miles home on mostly six-lane hwy through oil-money country. I am usually passed by (everyone passes me, I’m old and poor) as many Raptors as regular F150’s (and by regular I mean four door, 4wd, any permutation of X/L/S/E you want). Zero regular cabs.

        They are always spotless, and some of the drivers are women. This may be a OK/TX kind of thing. Man I wish I could have one, they’re incredible vehicles, but I doubt I will ever be able to afford the depreciation on that much non-Ferrari.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      JimZ – “I wonder how many Raptors ever leave the pavement.”

      or Wrangler’s or Power Wagons or well, anything with 4 wheel drive!

      Posers subsidize the hardcore market for any vehicle.

  • avatar
    VoGo

    You want to fire my brother? Fine. Whatever. But know this, I’ll still write for you – I need the money and R&T won’t print a lot of my ramblings – but all you get from me from now on is [email protected] Just a ridiculous question with a random quote and a few insults thrown in.

    #phoningitin

    • 0 avatar
      mtmmo

      I recently read Bark’s comment about vogo. No truer words have been written and just as applicable here:

      “I’m sure you’re just trolling for a response, because you’re a sad, pathetic man with nothing better to do than get a little tingle up your leg…You are nobody. You create nothing. You are the critic in the arena. You’re a grown man who comes to my personal blog to read things you don’t like. How sad an existence that must be.”

  • avatar
    philadlj

    I somehow doubt most of the future owners of Chevy Spark ACTIVs are fans of the Romanian eurodance group Activ.

  • avatar
    S2k Chris

    I don’t think Toyota deserves too much scorn to be honest. They may have some silly packages like the RAV4, but they offer some legitimate “Adventure” packages as well, like the TRD Pro on the 4Runner and Tacoma. Plus they probably offer more “dirt worthy” vehicles than anyone else; 4Runner, Tacoma, Land Cruiser (plus you can argue the GX and LX Lexuses, low-hanging bumpers and side steps aside). Jeep offers the Wrangler and the Grand Cherokee, MAAAAYBE you can make an argument for the Cherokee, and Land Rovers are basically off soft-roaders now except for the big Range Rover. Automobile Magazine got the Discovery stuck where a Macan, GLC, and X4 succeeded fer crissakes. So given Toyota’s actual offroading pedigree, I’ll forgive them the RAV4 Adventure.

  • avatar
    cgjeep

    Every Acura product

  • avatar
    e30gator

    At the end of the day, it’s all just fashion. That’s what differentiates (and apparently justifies) the price gap between a Prerunner and the commercial white Tacoma at the other end of the car lot that will eventually haul pool chemicals.

    And it’s exactly why people who live in the suburbs wear $80 cowboy hats and $300 cowboy boots. And that’s exactly why I dress like a pirate whenever I take my boat out. Arrrrrr

    • 0 avatar
      Dingleberrypiez_Returns

      Eh, whatever. I prefer the look of a 4wd Tacoma, but don’t need 4wd. Prerunner is a great choice. The name may have silly connotations, but there are much bigger automotive sins than wanting a slightly lifted truck.

      • 0 avatar
        gtemnykh

        I’d say in dry climates, the Prerunner trucks make a ton of sense. On dry trails, clearance and durability are the name of the game rather than 4 driven wheels (unless you’re really rock crawling). And the Prerunners typically have that locking rear diff to help them out in a pinch. When I was down in Mexico for work there were quite a few newer TRD Tacomas, every single one was a rwd PreRunner variant. Having said that, I would always opt for the 4wd if it is available.

        • 0 avatar
          dal20402

          Dry? Such a thing exists?

          – Northwesterner whose back yard is currently a feet-deep mud bog, after 6″ of snow followed immediately by 3″ of rain

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            Quite frankly on snow tires and without engaging 4wd on either truck, my brother and I were able to navigate to and from a hiking trailhead on an unplowed and rocky/icy jeep trail over Christmas break just fine. To be fair there were sections of other seasonal roads where on a long icy climb the rear end on my 4Runner just kept stepping out, and I ultimately didn’t have enough momentum and spun to a halt. Even 4wd wasn’t enough on that section of iced over tracks, it took locking the rear diff to finally start moving forward. That’s generally how it goes. 95% of the time offroad traction is not an issue, but it’s those exceptions where having 4wd makes the difference between going forward or not.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            I use 4×4 only as a last resort. It is amazing where one can go with a locking diff and decent ground clearance.

  • avatar
    fincar1

    In the 1930’s there were Studebaker Dictator, President, Commander…any more meaningful?

    Edit: Ha! My spellcheck thingie hadn’t heard of Studebaker….

  • avatar
    Carlson Fan

    “So let’s talk about the worst and the best of these Action Packages out there. Which ones are a total joke?”

    Jack what do think that Z71 “offroad” package on that GMT-900 Tahoe parked in your driveway? When I shopped mine in 2007 that was the first option/trim level I crossed off the list. Which was good because I believe at the time it was the most expensive trim level. Also I didn’t didn’t want to pay extra for something that made the truck drive and handle worse anytime it was on pavement.

  • avatar
    Thorshammer_gp

    I’ve always found it funny that my 2011 Outback Sport, ostensibly the “adventuring” version of the Impreza, came equipped with the largest wheels and lowest-profile tires of all the Imprezas of that generation. But I’d say the package was worth it for the two-tone paint, though.

  • avatar
    stingray65

    In the factory we make cosmetics; in the drugstore we sell hope.
    – Charles Revson (Revlon cosmetics founder)

  • avatar
    DC Bruce

    I share the sentiment, JB, but the truth is that every car is marketed on a fantasy. That fantasy being the empty open road where the marketing target is just cruising along in the car being marketed, enjoying the scenery and having a nice time.

    The reality is increasingly dismal for most people: traffic-jammed freeways and clogged suburban streets. I remember some years ago being totally incredulous at seeing a guy commuting to work on a major street in DC . . . in a Dodge Viper. I feel that way when I see anyone commuting in a Porsche or a BMW M car.

    In fact, now living in an 31-story apartment canyon across the river from DC, I can hear these people’s frustration as they rip a 1000 feet of max acceleration just to hear the sound of their engines before slamming on the brakes.

    Taking the idea further, I would suggest that this congestion is why cars are increasingly becoming transportation appliances . . . because there are fewer and fewer places where a driver can really appreciate his/her car’s capabilities. CUVs and minivans are a symptom, not a cause. Or, you can virtue-signal with a Prius while you lumber along on your way to work.

    • 0 avatar
      -Nate

      “Or, you can virtue-signal with a Prius while you lumber along on your way to work.”
      .
      _THIS_ ~
      .
      @ *exactly* 54 MPH, IN THE FAST LANE of the ONLY Freeway in So. Cal. with serious curves in it no less……
      .
      GRrrrrrrrr.
      .
      -Nate

      • 0 avatar
        VoGo

        OK, Anyone doing 54 in the fast lane is a d1ck, regardless of car they drive.

        But calling a Prius owner out on virtue signalling is nonsense. By definition, virtue signalling means that you are on internet pretending to be virtuous, but your real life choices don’t reflect the values you project*. Someone who buys a Prius is putting their money where their mouth is, i.e., their lifestyle is consistent with their values – at least as far as we know.

        *I learned this on Riverside Green, so it must be true.

        • 0 avatar
          DC Bruce

          Umm, not every Prius owner is a virtue-signaler. But, judging by the license plates I see on their cars, some are.

          The rest just want a ticket into the HOV lane at rush hour. :-)

          And, I guess you missed the implication in Jack’s article and in many of the comments that lots of these car purchases are a form of “signaling,” anyway. God knows, there’s more than a few of the B&B who slam big pickup owners as men with male sexual inadequacies.

      • 0 avatar
        DC Bruce

        Gotta be safe, Nate! The slower the safer, is what I say! ;-)

        • 0 avatar
          -Nate

          SCREW THAT ! .
          .
          You have to be where there’s lots of prii I guess ~ we have way too many of them and almost every one that’s not a Taxi or Municipal vehicle is driven by a SJW who not only deliberately impedes traffic, they also don’t signal, weave mindlessly in and out of lanes whilst checking their makeup or I-thing .
          .
          They’re _evil_ .
          .
          Lead, follow or GET THE HELL OUTA MY WAY !! .

          -Nate

  • avatar
    Lou_BC

    Nice photo shop. I don’t recall ever seeing any small, mid or large CUV in any similar situation.
    In my part of the world, anyone parking their vehicle like that in the middle of a dirt road will find their ride punted into the rhubarb by a loaded logging truck.

  • avatar
    bikegoesbaa

    Dodge Dart Swinger?

  • avatar
    Von

    Valid article, but how about those that drive a V6 Accord Coup and tell themselves it’s a sports sedan like the RWD 3 series?

    • 0 avatar
      Hummer

      Honestly, the Accord is probably even or possibly better as a sports sedan than the current 3. Not to mention your getting an engine much more refined than the coarse anemic engine in the 3. Rwd ceases to mean much when it’s being powered by a 4 (outside of a sportster obviously).

  • avatar
    Jack Baruth

    Ain’t bragging if you can do it.

    That V6 coupe has more laps on track than every 3 series in my zipcode.

  • avatar
    macmcmacmac

    Eurosport

    Tercel Sport

    …………..cough…..ZX-14…..cough………

  • avatar
    DirtRoads

    Now, I’ve been to Monaco, but never owned a Monte Carlo. Although I may have ridden in one at some point, dunno.

    And I wear loafers to shovel snow (we’ve had three feet this winter) because, house.

    My truck is as basic as they come, with a bed that will hold sheets of plywood flat on the bottom. Perfect size. And it will also tow my sailboat, without an automatic transmission *gasp*.

    I’d love to go back to Monaco and park in the parking lot of the Monte Carlo with a Monte Carlo. Lowered, lights underneath, all blinged-out and parked next to someone’s Ferrari.

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