By on January 3, 2017

Mark-Fields (Image: Ford)

Ford Motor Company CEO Mark Fields didn’t completely walk back the company’s long-range production plans today, but the automaker pull a hard U-turn on one goal.

In a speech at the automaker’s Flat Rock, Michigan assembly plant this morning, Fields said he was “encouraged” by President-elect Donald Trump’s “pro-growth policies.” Because of this, the Blue Oval’s planned $1.6 billion small car plant in Mexico is now off the table. Instead, the automaker will expand and modernize Flat Rock as it brings a slew of promised hybrid and electric vehicles to production.

In total, Ford promises seven electrified models, including two — a long-range fully electric vehicle and a fully autonomous hybrid vehicle — that will roll out of Flat Rock. To accommodate the plans, Ford will invest $700 million to build a new manufacturing and innovation center at the plant, creating 700 new jobs in the process.

Flat Rock already produces the Ford Mustang and Lincoln Continental.

Crediting the UAW and Michigan Governor Rick Snyder for their continued support, Fields lauded the policies signaled by the incoming Trump administration.

“We believe that these tax and regulatory reforms are critically important to boost U.S. competitiveness, and of course drive a resurgence in American manufacturing and high-tech innovation,” said Fields. “All of these factors — coupled with segmentation shifts that we’re seeing in the marketplace and our effort to fully utilize the capacity at existing facilities — have prompted us, obviously, to invest in Flat Rock’s expansion and cancel building a new plant in Mexico.”

The CEO claimed Flat Rock will become “one of the world’s most flexible and high-tech manufacturing centers.”

Trump made an example out of Ford during the election, singling the automaker out for moving its small car production to Mexico — a common practice in the industry — and threatening a 35-percent import tariff. Ford rebuffed the threats, claiming in November that the low-profit Ford Focus was still leaving Michigan for Mexico. That plan hasn’t changed, but the compact won’t find a home in a pricey new plant. Instead, the model will be built at Ford’s existing Hermosillo, Mexico assembly plant.

In an interview with CNN, Fields claims he spoke with Trump and vice-president elect Mike Pence this morning. “We didn’t cut a deal with Trump,” said Fields of the plant announcements. “We did it for our business.”

The CEO promised to build the infrastructure behind the upcoming electric vehicles, including a potential wireless-charging system. That method of recharging will soon be the focus of a Ford pilot project.

UAW Vice President Jimmy Settles was clearly pleased with Ford’s announcement, declaring the Flat Rock investment to be the “equivalent of a new assembly plant.”

[Image: Ford Motor Company]

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92 Comments on “Ford Scraps Planned Mexican Plant as CEO Promises U.S. Investment, Jobs...”


  • avatar
    tresmonos

    I can’t f*cking wait for all the misguided political talk to consume this god [email protected] website.

    Somebody please choke me out so I don’t have to live in a world where idiots’ beliefs are fed by the machine.

  • avatar
    OldManPants

    Small cars appear unimportant enough for use as political pawns by both Thump and the OEMs.

  • avatar

    Ford is just shifting dollars around. They are still going to build the Focus in Hermosillo. Ford gets to improve margins on small cars and get some headlines about EVs, Trump keeps jobs in America. The Art of the Deal.

    • 0 avatar
      tresmonos

      That and somebody in accounting finally woke up. Whoever was in charge of this ‘capacity grab’ that never took place needs to get walked out.

      TTAC fell for the spin as did the less intelligent of the B&B.

    • 0 avatar
      DeadWeight

      I’m going to tweet out* “Focus owners: Check door jamb label for origin of assembly. Mexico?” in 2018.

      Heads will explode.

      #GAGA

      *If world still exists.

      • 0 avatar
        JimZ

        the first Focus (C170) for North America was built in Mexico, in 2000. Hermosillo, even.

        what’s old is new again. I imagine all of the people who were fine with buying a Fusion with a “3” VIN aren’t going to have a problem with a Mexican built Focus.

    • 0 avatar
      Quick Double Nickel

      I wonder what favor Ford will call in later (either publicly or privately) in exchange for giving Trump a big “I told you so” moment just as his term begins. Maybe rolling back fuel economy requirements …

    • 0 avatar
      Adam Tonge

      Ford rarely wastes a good marketing opportunity.

  • avatar
    JimZ

    I’m sure it might have had *something* to do with it, but I’d wager simple business realities had more to do with this than Capt. Orange’s bluster.

    twitter.com/nickbunkley/status/816329633176178688

    day in and day out we read articles about how car sales are in free-fall. building an entire new plant for cars people in this country aren’t buying just turned out to be a bad idea.

    • 0 avatar
      tresmonos

      The free fall is scaring the crap out of me. I don’t want to believe that the last few years will go down as the largest amount of vehicles sold in history for North America, but I would wager it will be.

      • 0 avatar
        Big Al From 'Murica

        What do you see as the causes? The economy has certainly been worse and most polls show people as optimistic.

        • 0 avatar
          JimZ

          simply that a SAAR of 17 million vehicles was unsustainable, and anyone with a clue knew it. All of those people who bought a car/truck during that boom aren’t likely to be buying another one soon.

          then there’s the fact that a lot of those are leases, and are hitting used car lots with fairly low mileage and the depreciation paid for.

          we’re not talking about a 2009-level catastrophe (God willing) but some sort of slowdown was inevitable.

      • 0 avatar
        bumpy ii

        Naah, it will be a local maxima. We’re just about done working through the post-recession catch-up period, so sales will settle down a bit before the millenial wave gets into its prime buying years.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        “The free fall is scaring the crap out of me. I don’t want to believe that the last few years will go down as the largest amount of vehicles sold in history for North America, but I would wager it will be.”

        Many automakers are literally (as in factually happening in real time) scrambling for covered, partially covered or even open-air surface lot storage to park new, undelivered (unwanted?) vehicles, such as shopping center malls, camper/RV/boat storage facilities, etc.

        There’s an open-air RV storage facility off of 15 mile road in Sterling Heights that is built on a former trash dump that has contracted to store all new vehicles from GM and no longer has any spaces for RVs, etc.

        • 0 avatar
          VoGo

          Jeep Wranglers will be piling up, as they plan on closing production from March to September. But that only explains a small %.

          • 0 avatar
            JimZ

            the south end of Detroit Diesel’s parking lot in Redford has a lot of Ram pickups stored there, but someone tipped me off that it might actually be the dealer across the road (Snethkamp) renting lot space from them.

          • 0 avatar
            here4aSammich

            Negative. The Cherokee is moving out of Toledo, and that line is being retooled for the new Wrangler. The current Wrangler line will remain in production as the “Wrangler Classic” until after the new model is up to speed. Then that line will be shut down to retool for additional new Wrangler capacity and the Wrangler pickup. See the TTAC article with the link to the story from the Toledo newspaper.

        • 0 avatar
          JimZ

          I remember when Joachim “Joe, please, I’m Just Folks” Eberhardt was in charge of manufacturing for Chrysler under Daimler, and seemingly every bit of open land in the area was stuffed with Rams, Dakotas, and Durangos. The Silverdome parking lot, state fairgrounds, you name it. All un-ordered and un-sold vehicles.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        What are the drivers of the free fall in your opinion, Tres?

        • 0 avatar
          tresmonos

          Cyclic possibly. We may have just seen a blip to cover an absence of volume that was present from 2009 / cash for clunkers.

          Also – companies were loading up on fleets that had been neglected for years.

          Trucks: domestic oil industry is taking a giant sh1t. Less fleet sales.

    • 0 avatar
      bumpy ii

      Yep, no one needs any more small *car* plants. Small CUVs, well, that’s another story.

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      An incoming administration vocal about shaping regulations to reward and punish, dependent on where factories are located, is very much a business reality. Much like Venezuela, high profile undertakings need to be done with an eye to whether it promotes Generalissimo’s apparent public image or not.

  • avatar
    SC5door

    In the Jimmy Settles local announcement:

    Hybrid police vehicle for Chicago.

  • avatar
    mtmmo

    “Ford Scraps Planned Mexican Plant as CEO Promises U.S. Investment, Jobs”

    A headline that would have never been possible under faux President Obama. Now all you leftists can get back to hating America but you will NEVER beat President Trump. He is smarter than you and he LOVES America.

    Leftists better stock up on lithium as Trump is just getting started. Next up: GM to announce jobs expansion shunning Mexico. MAGA!!!!!

    • 0 avatar
      VoGo

      Um, just FYI: under Obama we’ve had the longest period of employment growth in history. You didn’t see those headlines because the impact of hiring literally millions of people overwhelms a few thousand here or there.

      Also, President Obama has been our president for the last 8 years. Nothing faux about it.

      • 0 avatar
        golden2husky

        Your logic will fall on the ears deafened by the endless drivel from Faux News. This move was made because it makes business sense to make it. Sadly T-Rump will crow that he was the driving factor for the cancellation of the Mexican plant.

        Why is it that righty tighites think that those on the left side of center hate America?

        • 0 avatar
          JimZ

          “Why is it that righty tighites think that those on the left side of center hate America?”

          because they truly believe they “own” this country and can decide who should be allowed to live here.

          • 0 avatar
            Dynasty

            “Why is it that righty tighites think that those on the left side of center hate America?”

            because they truly believe they “own” this country and can decide who should be allowed to live here.”

            That and they are so far left they are entering into communist territory and wont be happy until no jobs are here and everyone is dependent on welfare (socialism).

            And that’s why people are upset that Ford has decided to invest in Michigan instead of Mexico. Lefties just want to bitch about anything.

            Without complaining about imaginary problems, that only they can solve through more taxes, rules and regulations they’d have no platform to spout their Marxist drivel from.

      • 0 avatar
        mtmmo

        As usual your post lacks context. Obama having the longest period of job growth is grossly misleading because (for example) Clinton had a single month of job growth decline of (just) 2,000 which interrupted his ‘streak’. And the month it happened it was an anomaly because 129,000 private-sector jobs were created and 397,000 the month after.

        Obama has only averaged 186,000 monthly jobs which is in the bottom half of the 17 jobs recoveries lasting 12 months or more in the past 75 years. By comparison Clinton and Reagan averaged 240,000. America has lost ground on jobs under Obama. If you compare the current number of jobs to the previous jobs peak in January 2008, which is how job growth is measured, the number of private-sector jobs has increased just 5.6 million. During that time, the population grew by more than 20 million. In other words, there’s a jobs gap of MORE THAN 14 million. Additionally Obama is the first President (since Hoover) to not see 3% GDP growth. His job growth record is pathetic and the majority of jobs have been on the lower end of the wage scale (another topic for a different time).

        I made an exception responding to your out of context post because I’m a Financial & Labor Economist. Next thing you’ll claim President Obama isn’t an anti-Semite. MAGA!

        • 0 avatar
          VoGo

          I guess as a “financial and labor economist” you know what the current unemployment rate is? Or where the stock market is, or the inflation rate? Or the price of gas, or the rate of those with healthcare insurance?

          All time bests in every category. EVERY CATEGORY.

          It’s like the Patriots having the best record, the QB with the best TD/INT ratio in history, the RB with the most rushing touchdowns the best TE of all time, and the defense that allows the fewest points in the league.

          • 0 avatar
            2manycars

            What a load of garbage. The unemployment numbers only look good because the method of calculating them was changed!

            Obamacare was a lie (“rates will go down, you can keep your plan”) and is an unmitigated disaster for everyone except the usual Democrat clientele: the moochers, parasites, and looters. For everyone else it’s been BOHICA time paying for it.

            Of course Obama leaves us with nearly $20 Trillion in debt (about $8 Trillion of it his), and the stock market has been riding a bubble fueled by the Fed printing funny money and providing artificially low interest rates, which is not sustainable.

            Fortunately the Republicans won so big this time out that it should be no problem making some big changes for the better. The New Year’s party was OK, but the real celebration will be the ending of an error on January 20th.

          • 0 avatar
            VoGo

            2manycars, but 2fewbraincells.

            Nothing you posted is grounded in truth.

      • 0 avatar
        dukeisduke

        The labor force participation rate is also at its lowest level in 40 years, and gradually shrinking every year since Obama’s been in office. In January, 2009, it was at 65.7 percent. In November, the last month reported, it was at 62.7 percent. Even in the Clinton years, the rate was much higher.

        From the government’s own Bureau of Labor Statistics:

        https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

        • 0 avatar
          VoGo

          Yes. Population older and higher % retired.

          Also, water still wet. Do better research.

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            I’d say the job creation numbers are rather misleading and miss the forest for the trees. The real story in my opinion is the continued out-flow of decent paying blue collar jobs, being replaced by service industry jobs that we’re told is a sign of our fantastically advanced post-industrial economy. So when someone has to resort to two burger-flipping jobs to replace a $60k factory job (with benefits), that’s seen as a “+1” for Obama’s numbers.

            I’ve also read that once a person is unemployed for long enough and simply gives up looking, they drop off the map as far as these calculations of unemployment goes. (I’ll gladly stand to be corrected on that one).

            I would correlate this mindset of “Obama did great on jobs” to the forecasts that predicted a Hillary blow-out, which seemed wholly impossible to anyone who drove around the Rust Belt leading up to the election and saw the sea of Trump signs relative to a paltry showing by Clinton/Kaine yard signs. In almost every single city and small town across the swath of the NorthEast/Midwest, a lot of folks are hurting. Gargantuan old hulks of factories that used to be filled with people working are no more. The service industry has in no way provided a viable alternative source of income for millions of people. So when people go on extolling Obama’s job creation prowess, I think many of us who have seen much of the reality on the ground can only shake our heads. Not at all saying that those factories closed because of Obama, heck it’s been ongoing since before Reagan took office. But the fact that things have been in free-fall and Obama did little-to-nothing to reverse that trend earns him no real applause from me.

          • 0 avatar
            VoGo

            gtemnykh,
            You make some interesting points. And you’re right, the 4.6% unemployment figure excludes people who have given up and stopped looking for work.

            But answer me this. You (and most of the people here) blame Obama for the lack of blue collar job growth. But doesn’t Congress pass the laws in this country? So what has the Republican dominated Congress done in the last 6 years to address the issue? Name one bill.

          • 0 avatar
            30-mile fetch

            gtem,
            You are correct about the unemployment numbers only accounting for those actively looking for work.

            The “Obama did great on jobs” mindset is analogous to the “Obama did terrible on jobs” mindset that is also being perpetuated here. People have the strong tendency to blame or credit the Executive Branch for economic trends as if the president could just turn dials and make it all happen, but economics seems staggeringly complex and the president’s influence is limited. The tendency for confirmation bias within us dictates which we believe.

            I sympathize with those left behind by the economic recovery and the further transfer of the nation’s wealth into the upper 1%. But I am skeptical of Trump’s ability and even intentions to reverse that perverted wealth disparity and help middle America. Support for Trump would seem to me to be more honest if it recognized him as the lesser of two evils in this election and viewed him with due skepticism, but instead there is a very vocal fraction that uses news stories from their Facebook feeds to rabidly put him on a pedestal he doesn’t deserve to be on.

            If Trump fails to deliver on his lofty promises, I suspect confirmation bias will again kick in and his supporters and detractors will simply see what they want to see in it.

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            VoGo you’re absolutely right that until this big “MAGA” movement that got people revved up, it was unheard of a Republican protesting against “free” trade for the most part (Pat Buchanan being a notable exception). Aside from some traditional “lunchpail” Democrats, everyone across the aisle was in lockstep towards the sweet sweet lobby money of globalizing corporations, and no one wanted to rock the boat. Bernie and Trump are the products of much pent up rage in many of these post-industrial zones. Bernie played nice and was squashed by the DNC. Trump’s loud mouth (expert media manipulation) and big bucks pulled him through the primaries against the wishes of most of the entrenched GOP.

            I’ve never had a stomach to vote for recent Republican (read: neo-con) candidates, but I will unashamedly state that I gladly voted for Trump in this election.

            Having worked in a large corporate environment for a bit now, I’ve come to realize that a ton of the pressure to cut costs (via workforce reduction, outsourcing, etc) all comes down from the shareholders’ demand for good fiscal quarters come hell or high water. I know this is classic capitalism doing its fine-tuned best, but boy are the consequences of this approach inhumane and in many cases unsustainable. Many many stories of confounded, laid off factory workers asking “what was wrong? we were profitable!” when the mothership pulls up roots and ships their factory over to Mexico/China/etc. How to combat this pressure? A very tough question. At least in regards to out-sourcing cost savings, Trump’s proposal is tariffs. We’ll see where we end up. The driving force behind maximizing profit is not patriotic, some one really needs to noodle on this. One might argue that the end-game of a country’s economy should be to bring maximum benefit to its citizens, not just an abstract notion of maximum profit and efficiency at extracting said profit.

            The traditional free market argument is that the consumer sees a net benefit by way of cheaper goods. This is kind of academic to the guy now flipping burgers and can now barely afford even the cheap crap for sale at Wal-Mart. In more personal experience in the car-realm, this massive off-shoring of aftermarket replacement car parts has left no real good alternatives for quality parts, regardless of price. Most of Moog’s stuff is Chinese now and of notably poorer quality, and even trusted brands like Gates are slipping. I have to now resort to hunting around and reading reviews of specific parts to ensure that I’m getting a decent part. Oftentimes this is seeking old New Old Stock on ebay.

            In summary I think Trump is far from the savior some people may be looking for, and who knows what direction his presidency might end up taking. But it was definitely an act of desperation by millions who heard him railing against the raw deal that they were dealt. An uplifting/rejuvenating message of rebuilding the country resonated more than one than what (to me) boiled down to “the other guy is racist, vote for me”

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            gtemnykh – well said. Free market laissez faire neo-liberalism is where the backlash should be directed. It has NEVER delivered on the promise of helping the common man by “trickle down”.

            People get blinded by political ideology and fixate on a particular tree or clump of trees as opposed to focusing upon who seeded and manages the forest. IT ISN’T POLITICIANS. When the Repubs and Dems spend a billion EACH on an election someone is expecting a return on investment.

            Big Money looks out for Big Money. Blaming Clinton for NAFTA misses the big picture. It would have happened anyway. Reagan was laissez faire and so were papa and shrub Bush. The “new” big picture is the fact that Trump was born into Big Money. If his campaign persona is who he really is, then he most likely will do more harm than good to the USA and USA’s position globally.
            Why do you think Russia preferred Trump to Clinton?
            Walling off the USA literally and figuratively, tearing up FTA’s, and pulling military bases will only strengthen Russia and other similar countries. There will always be someone out there chasing Big Money.

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            ” and pulling military bases”

            Well this and not spending literal trillions of dollars rebuilding the infrastructures of third world countries we bombed is something I can whole-heartedly get behind. The money from the Iraq debacle could have rebuilt most of our own roads and other infrastructure, and put hundreds of thousands of people to work doing something productive.

        • 0 avatar
          mtmmo

          Correct under Obama the labor participation rate, job type (private vs public sector), and job wage class are pathetic. In my industry the Clinton and Reagan era’s are the ‘gold standard’ and Obama doesn’t even register. One of the main reasons why I stopped supporting him.

      • 0 avatar
        whitworth

        Just FYI, under Obama we had the largest expansion of food stamps in US history.

        We still have about 20 million more people on food stamps than we did 8 years ago.

        • 0 avatar
          VoGo

          The SNAP program (the name was changed in 2008) is administered by the states. The states that have the highest % of SNAP enrollees are:
          – Mississippi
          – New Mexico
          – West Virginia
          – Oregon
          – Tennessee
          – Louisiana

          Is it coincidence that 5 of 6 are deeply red states?

          • 0 avatar
            whitworth

            So you’re conceding food stamps are indeed at an all time high?

            Food stamp reliance has gone up across the board in all sorts of states with different voting preferences.

            I’d love to get a breakdown of SNAP users and Obama voters.

            And Oregon and New Mexico are not “deep red states”.

          • 0 avatar
            VoGo

            SNAP participation is indirectly correlated with level and quality of education. As was voting for Trump.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “Trump’s margin among whites without a college degree is the largest among any candidate in exit polls since 1980. Two-thirds (67%) of non-college whites backed Trump, compared with just 28% who supported Clinton, resulting in a 39-point advantage for Trump among this group.”

    • 0 avatar
      Guitar man

      The stupidity of Trump supporters reaches new depths….

      All Ford Focuses sold in the US come from Mexico. All of them will still come from Mexico. “sales are below expectations” because the Focus is a complete lemon that blows up gearboxes.

      The 700 jobs are for a completely different set of cars and only exist because of the Obama administration subsidies for electric vehicles – which the Republicans plan to abolish.

  • avatar
    mtmmo

    Ford CEO on Bloomberg said his plant change is a vote of confidence for Trump. He went on to throw Obama under the bus stating the pro-growth and pro-business regulatory environment of the incoming administration is a 180 from the previous administration. Nice to see a respected CEO call out what an incompetent President Obama has been. MAGA!

    • 0 avatar
      Master Baiter

      But, but, but the economy is great under Obama. That’s why Hillary Clinton won in a landslide. /s
      .
      .

    • 0 avatar
      nickoo

      Lol. All these salty Obama apologists deflecting in the comments. So pathetic. MAGA!

      • 0 avatar
        OldManPants

        Who’s this Maga I keep seeing people rave about? One of the Gabor granddaughters?

      • 0 avatar
        mtmmo

        Liberalism is a mental disorder. How else do you defend the indefensible? I think when Trump said he was going to drain the swamp he was referring to Obama leaving DC.

        I think today’s news is just more evidence that the auto industry will really thrive under President Trump. MAGA!

        • 0 avatar
          OldManPants

          Betcha didn’t know there’s a horological phrase named after you!

          “Dumb repeater:

          Used by the visually impaired and to tell the time quietly in meetings and concerts, ‘dumb’ repeater watches did not chime audibly, but instead produced vibrations. Instead of a gong, the hammer struck the hours on a solid metal block attached to the case, producing a dull ‘thud’ that could be felt in the hand.”

          Dull Thuds for Thump!

        • 0 avatar
          VoGo

          mtmmo got his PhD in psycho-iatry from Trump University.

          MANGIA!

          • 0 avatar
            VoGo

            The same people who are getting duped by Fields (respected CEO? NO ulterior motive here?) are the same ones who got duped by Orangina.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      @mtmmo – or perhaps goes to show how mercenary and self-interested Big Business really is?

      “I think when Trump said he was going to drain the swamp he was referring to Obama leaving DC.”

      Is that how you rationalize Trump’s picks? They are all part of that same swamp called Washington DC.

      @Master Baiter – Hillary is/was the poster child of career suck azz politician. There is plenty of anger aimed at the “establishment” that Trump tapped into.Trump showed the effectiveness of marketing a brand.
      She did not address the concerns of Trump’s fan base and looked down upon them. “basket of deplorables” killed her.

      Career Narcissistic businessman versus Career Narcissistic Politician.

      Tough choice.

      white and uneducated chose the business man.

      Go figure!

      • 0 avatar
        mtmmo

        The Democrat party is dead for the next few decades as moderates are leaving them in droves and the GOP continues to win a higher percentage of the Independent vote. Democrats have become the party of anti-American extremists who openly disdain America and the working class.

        Look at the difference in average age for House leadership and you’ll get a good feel for where each party is headed. The average age of Democrat House leadership (Pelosi, Hoyer, Clyburn) is 76 years old! The GOP House leadership (Ryan, McCarthy, Scalise) is only 47. Add Trump and you have an expanding GOP that will continue to dominate the Democrats over the next several decades. It’s no wonder the overwhelming majority of the map is Red and it’s only going to expand. Democrats represent coastal elites and that’s not going to change for a very long time.

        American CEO’s are lining up to work with President Trump and rightfully so. Finally we have a pro-business pro-American worker President in the White House. As a result we’ll be experiencing an economic expansion like never seen before and the auto industry will be one of many to reap the benefits. Only 16 days before the adults take over!

      • 0 avatar
        Dynasty

        “white and uneducated chose the business man”

        F off. We are so tired of your goddamned race baiting. And calling us uneducated.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @Dynasty – “Race baiting”?????? Google Demographics of voters or demographics of Trump voters or demographics of Clinton voters.

          You prefer Caucasian of European descent without post secondary education?

          Traditionally we have seen rural, uneducated (i.e. no post secondary education), Christian, and “white” as the core constituency for the Republican Party.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Truly educated people tend to see the brilliance of at least some libertarian ideas.

            The issue today is “educated” means “I gots my diploma” which -if thinking was not developed to obtain it- is fancy toilet paper. In my region the so called “educated” are some of the the most ignorant and worthless in society.

          • 0 avatar
            Big Al From 'Murica

            interesting. I vote Republican (typically). I guess since my Mastes degree is in a STEM field and not liberal arts perhaps that is the difference.

          • 0 avatar
            Big Al From 'Murica

            28cars, I agree. Honestly I got my masters to get my resume past the HR filters and get an interview. I learned some things but it is my experience that lands the job, the degree just got me in the door. Many degrees nowadays won’t even do that. College is a means to an end but we sell it as this whole experience and “best years of my life” crap. BS. The best years of my life is now…being able to afford to do things with my family and afford what I want because I didn’t hitch my fortunes to a piece of paper.

  • avatar
    Big Al from Oz

    I really think Ford’s (Field’s) “official reported position or explanation is nonsense.

    1. Ford’s profits have dropped.

    2. Ford would of already had planned for the $700 million expansion in the US. Thump had nothing to do with it, or it could be deemed collusion.

    3. Vehicle sales are dropping, furthering pressure on Ford profits.

    4. It is wise for Ford to not spend ….. anywhere, even Mexico.

    Why invest in Mexico and run at a loss. Ford (Field) is giving Thump a cranium job and blowing him. Thump thrives on this, narcissists are great, just ask Thump how good he is and whether the truth matters.

    This is just a bullsh!t news item infating Thump and pissibly scaring potential Ford customers to other brands.

    FORD THUMPS BRAND OF CHOICE. Not a good look for Ford marketing.

    • 0 avatar
      Big Al From 'Murica

      Let me just throw it out to you that anyone who is likely to be swayed by that line of thought likely wouldn’t be caught dead in a domestic vehicle.

  • avatar

    There’s a lot of political, and other, grandstanding going on, but according to what they said on WWJ here in Detroit this decision apparently has less to do with Ford trying to make nice to Mr. Trump than the fact that the cost of doing business in Mexico has gone up due to local inflation as the peso has fallen. The peso has fallen about 13% recently, the most since Mexico’s peso crisis of the mid 1990s, and the Ford announcement has further weakened the Mexican currency. Ford may be getting more pesos to their dollar but they have to pay more pesos for everything they buy in Mexico.

    • 0 avatar
      mtmmo

      Yeah Ford’s decision wasn’t largely driven by the new no nonsense pro-American worker President. It was merely a coincidence. Just like Obama’s UN vote was an act of love towards the Jewish people.

      • 0 avatar
        Dynasty

        Yep, lefties attribute anything good that happens because of someone they ideologically disagree with as coincidence.

        That’s of course after labeling their opposition as racist/sexist/misogynist/bigot/literally H!tler/fascist/[email protected]/dictator/islamaphobic, etc.. And when all that doesn’t work they roll out a parade of fake rape victims. And when that doesn’t work, they riot on the streets and burn shit down. When all that doesn’t work they threaten the electoral college. When that doesn’t work, they make up fake news about Russia.

        Yeah, democrats, aka progressives (which is just a new name for communism) have shown us who they really are. A bunch of mentally deficient individuals about 2 degrees removed from radical Islamic terrorists. No wonder they want to import those savages into this country.

        • 0 avatar

          Guys, chill. Just as there were sound economic reasons for Ford wanting to build the plant in Mexico in the first place, conditions have changed and the company is again making what they believe is a sound financial decision.

          Are there political benefits in terms of good will from the incoming administration and from Americans who’d like more jobs here? Sure.

          I’m hardly a leftist. I do think it’s absolutely essential to hold one’s own side (in politics, religion, business, etc.) to a high set of standards, let alone being honest with the facts.

          Was Trump a factor in Ford’s decision? Undoubtedly, but the state of the peso was more important.

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            mtmmo

            No lefty or righty here. Ford just so happened to release this news within two hours of Trump ripping GM on Twitter. Blind is blind. And if you want to know why the peso plunged and the US dollar soared it’s Trump.

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            VoGo

            Ronnie is talking sense here.

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          Lou_BC

          “Yeah, democrats, aka progressives (which is just a new name for communism) have shown us who they really are. A bunch of mentally deficient individuals about 2 degrees removed from radical Islamic terrorists. No wonder they want to import those savages into this country.”

          …….And you got offended when I used the word white and uneducated.

          LOL

          I cited actual data.

          Please post evidence to back your rant.
          Breitbart or Fox doesn’t count.

          • 0 avatar
            mtmmo

            “Breitbart or Fox doesn’t count”. I’m a Democrat who gladly voted for Trump and while researching some key issues I found Breitbart to be as credible, and in some cases more credible, than the NYT or Washington Post. Enjoy your coastal elite attitude as it seems to be working great. For the GOP.

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            Big Al From 'Murica

            If your data isn’t from the ministry of truth it doesn’t count.

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