By on April 29, 2016

2017 Fiat 124 Spider

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles has announced pricing on the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider, touting it as America’s least expensive turbocharged convertible.

With an MSRP of $24,995 (plus $995 destination), the Spider tops the base price of its platform mate — the Mazda MX-5 Miata — by $255. Luxury (“Luzzo”) models will go for $28,490, while the performance-oriented Abarth model starts at $29,190.

For struggling Fiat dealerships, the Spider’s arrival could mean the difference between survival or absorption into the Jeep retailer next door. That’s assuming roadster buyers opt for the Spider’s distinctively Italian lines over the perpetually popular Miata.

All versions of the Spider come with FCA’s turbocharged MultiAir 1.4-liter four-cylinder, mated to a six-speed manual transmission or a six-speed automatic. The little mill makes 160 horsepower and 184 pounds-feet of torque in non-Abarth trim, compared to the naturally aspirated (2.0-liter) Miata’s 155 hp and 148 lb-ft.

When the Spider’s specifications emerged last month, those anticipating that the Abarth model would gain 10 hp over stock models had their hopes squashed like a …well, you know. Now FCA says there will be a five horsepower bump, preserving some horsepower bragging rights for the Abarth crowd.

The Spider Abarth gets a full complement of performance-tuned upgrades, and a “look over here, dammit” paint job to go with it.

All Spiders trims are rated at 26 miles per gallon in the city and 35 mpg on the highway for manual transmission models, and 25/36 for automatics.

The Spider crawls into Fiat dealerships (possibly to rapturous applause from its employees) this summer.

[Image: FCA US LLC]

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58 Comments on “Top-Down Pricing: 2017 Fiat 124 Spider Starts at $25,990...”


  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    And you’ll instantly lose the cost savings over the MX-5 as soon as you sign on the line. The Abarth I can see having some appeal, but the regular one, no. It looks entirely too derpy compared to the sculpted MX-5.

    Puts me in mind of when they took a Chevy and put a big pointy front on it and called it a Pontiac so they could charge a bit more.

    • 0 avatar
      velvet fog

      I was thinking that the un-employed Pontiac designers had finally found a new home.

    • 0 avatar

      We’ll agree to disagree on this. I personally find the Fiat more attractive than the Miata.

      • 0 avatar
        30-mile fetch

        I do as well. The Mazda front reminds me of an angry little catfish and the rest of the body looks like it was just shrink-wrapped around the frame. I can admire that purity of purpose, but would much prefer to look at the Fiat.

        The presence of a FCA motor under the hood is of greater concern to me, and being a Fiat certainly will not put it at a resale advantage over the Mazda.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        I find this car better looking as well. But I’d be more inclined to trust a Mazda engine than a FCA sourced mill.

        • 0 avatar
          TrailerTrash

          I find this Fiat better looking, has a more useful trunk and a better/more fun engine.
          However, the story doesn’t explain the trans.
          Is the trans the same as in the Miata? Or does Fiat have their own?
          Miata has always had a nice trans, auto or stick.

      • 0 avatar
        JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

        I agree, I believe it took Fiat to make the new Miata attractive. Id have to say, Id pick the Fiat between the two, just based on the looks. Damn resale or the reliability concerns, its the one that would make me smile when I walk out to the driveway instead of asking me to look down until I go to get inside. Having a hp and (significant) torque advantage is just an added bonus.

    • 0 avatar
      Kyree S. Williams

      Agreed. I think the MX-5’s styling is far superior.

      • 0 avatar
        TrailerTrash

        Kyree

        This argument can go on forever.
        He said she said.
        But the real position I have is….Mustang.

        Every time I see a convertible Mustang these days I seems to get that Beatlemania emotion thingy goin on.
        Perhaps not rational, hell nothin rational about it, but I don’t think any of these purchases is rational.
        Pure heart.

        I just need to find an excuse to tell my wife we need a convertible in the garage. Other real expenses be damned…what we really need to fix our lives and prepare for the future is a gunmetal grey mustang convertible.

        I I don’t care a hoot what engine it has.

    • 0 avatar
      GeneralMalaise

      Affordable drop tops that are a blast to drive should be welcomed, as they are difficult to make a business case in support of for most manufacturers. Many commenters should stick to Consumer Reports, as they seem to view cars as appliances.

  • avatar
    madman2k

    Not bad. I’d like to see a head-to-head comparison review against a no-options V6 mustang.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      Why not the turbo-4 Mustang? Bigger price/power difference?
      Not saying youre wrong or calling you out, just seems like a logical question.

      Id be interested to see a comparison to this and its platform mate, see if the power/torque difference is enough to overcome typical anti-Fiat bias.

      • 0 avatar
        TrailerTrash

        think the one reason to get the turbo is I believe certain options, lke back up cam and other cool warning options, only come on the ecoboost and higher.
        But like I said above….ANY will look better with me in.

  • avatar
    LS1Fan

    Fiat + Turbo Roadster = a great weekend car.

    I don’t mean a weekend spent driving it either. If you turn your ear to the computer screen just right, you can almost hear Chilton’s executives celebrating.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      Except that the only Fiat part, really, is the engine, which has been on the market for awhile with no major issues. The rest, save for styling, is all Mazda. Its even built in Japan. But, yes, the name alone means everything will break two days after delivery.

  • avatar
    FBS

    The Fiat looks worse than the Mazda but the modification potential of the turbo engine is intriguing. Even in stock form I’m curious if that extra torque makes a difference in the acceleration numbers.

  • avatar
    sirwired

    If this “test project” goes well, does anybody think that Mazda WON’T be FCA’s longed-for source of design/engineering for Dodge/Chrysler cars?

    It would totally make sense for both players… Mazda needs the money, and FCA needs cars that don’t suck.

    • 0 avatar
      qfrog

      Makes sense to me.

    • 0 avatar
      JuniperBug

      Hey, it worked pretty well for Ford in the early 90s. You might be onto something.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      Ford actually lost money on the Mazda-based Escort, and they never truly found themselves actually competing head-to-head with cars like Honda Civic until the in-house designed/engineered Focus replaced it. The Mazda-based Kia Sephia also did poorly, but thats more to do with the awful build quality. Its funny that the Kia-assembled Ford Festiva and Aspire felt better screwed together than the Sephia, and I say that as the former owner of a 1990 Festiva L and a 1994 Sephia LS, along with experience Ive had with the Aspire.

      Mazda does make good small cars, dont get me wrong, its just that sometimes, that isnt good enough.

      If Mazda cant seem to move the Mazda6 very well on its own, its not like slapping a Chrysler badge on it will do it any favors. The 200 isnt best-in-class, but its the best car in the segment that Chrysler has offered in a very long time. That isnt/wasnt enough to justify keeping it alive.

      On the other hand, what do they have to lose? Gotta be better than the terrible Mitsubishi-based cars like the old 200, Avenger, Caliber, etc.

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      Miata with a Hellcat engine…….

  • avatar
    Whatnext

    The Fiat is a much more attractive car than the scalpelled Miata. it keeps the look a classic roadster.

    • 0 avatar
      VW16v

      Totally agree. The Miata design looks sad. Especially those headlights. My local Mazda dealers are having a hard time getting them off the lot. I can see $4000 on the hood soon. Nice to see Fiat make something a little more substantial.

      • 0 avatar
        mike978

        Looks are a personal preference, the headlights on the Fiat look odd to me in the photo. Need to see it in real life to make a real assessment.

        Surprised there are big discounts on the MX-5 since it has been very popular since coming out last year and the summer driving season is nearly on us. Your one dealer may well be an outlier.

        • 0 avatar
          CoreyDL

          That “hard time moving” statement was not based in fact, but rather in hyperbolic imagination.

        • 0 avatar
          VW16v

          Mike,
          You could be correct on location. Utah may not be the mecca for small two seater convertibles. But, the sales manager did tell me they have had mixed reviews and only sold a couple miata’s and would not keep to many in stock. I’ve only seen two new miata’s on the road next many BMW convertibles.

        • 0 avatar
          300zx_guy

          Has the Fiat ever been photographed without the DRLs on? If so, I haven’t seen it yet. Makes me wonder if it looks much worse that way.

    • 0 avatar
      derekson

      I didn’t like the Miata much in photos, but in person they are actually quite attractive.

      I’d still prefer the Fiat though; plus it will probably be easier to get it for thousands below MSRP.

      • 0 avatar
        TheDoctorIsOut

        If you remember the original Fiat 124 Spyder this design is homage to, this is an unfortunate pastiche of the original. If not then this design is just unfortunate. The rear fender arch that flowed on the original into a line that ended at the headlights was graceful and balanced by the sculpted tail. The cars I saw in LA lacked any of this grace and looked grafted onto the Mazda’s form. The tail lamps with their body color inserts just looked cheap, the front end looked not enough like the original or distinctiveness enough to look an original statement itself. Having seen the finished product I’m greatly relieved this did not end up as an Alfa Romeo.

  • avatar
    seth1065

    saw 2 of these Fiats at the NY auto show one in 2 tone paint looked bad the other is a nice blue made the car look great. I like this looks better than the MX5 but I would spend my money at mazda, better support community and I think better long term owner experience with their engine.

  • avatar
    stevelovescars

    I know Fiat hasn’t ranked well in terms of reliability, but are the issues minor or has the 1.4T really done poorly? My 2013 Abarth was completely reliable, but that is just a sample of 1.

    Looking at the Renegade, I would rather have the 1.4 than the Tigershark, I think it’s a sweet little engine. I think it would be a riot in the roadster body, especially if it sounds anything like the 500 Abarth.

    • 0 avatar
      heavy handle

      No major issues with the 1.4T, and it’s been on the market in the US for 4 years now.

      Fiat’s reliability woes are often confidently overstated by internet experts. They don’t do great on 90-day surveys, but they are mid-pack on JD Power’s latest 3-year survey (slightly ahead of Nissan).

  • avatar
    TMA1

    Not a bad price, I was expecting something much worse, maybe starting around $30K.

    The Abarth starts $1900 less than the MX-5 Grand Touring.

    What really makes this appealing is the engine. That extra torque has to be good for something.

    A bigger issue with this car is the lack of available color options. I was hoping for something like the color palette for the 500. Instead it’s mostly grey-scale, with a red tossed in there. Not even blue is available. You can’t buy a new blue roadster unless you buy the top-of-the-line MX-5.

  • avatar
    mwgillespie

    “…the difference between survival or absorption into the Jeep retailer next door.”

    In a St. Paul suburb, there is a VW dealer. It used to be a VW-SAAB dealer but that didn’t last. Fortunately they found a new 2nd brand – FIAT! It’s a toss-up which one the owners regret more at this point.

    The only worse case I can recall was when I was working at a uniform rental client, and one of their customers was, I kid you not, a SAAB-Hummer-Pontiac-Olds dealer.

    • 0 avatar
      GeneralMalaise

      “In a St. Paul suburb, there is a VW dealer. It used to be a VW-SAAB dealer but that didn’t last. Fortunately they found a new 2nd brand – FIAT! It’s a toss-up which one the owners regret more at this point.”

      Probably much, much less than their decision to remain in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area, I’d wager.

  • avatar

    Lusso maybe?

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 5 extra HP for the Abarth!

    I thought I could get that much just by slapping “VTEC” stickers on it.

  • avatar
    indi500fan

    Does the 1.4 MultiAir engine get frequent flier miles? Italy to Japan to the US?

  • avatar
    Preludacris

    Good thing it’s cheaper because I don’t see any other benefits over the Mazda badged one. The Miata looks better and I think I’d prefer the naturally aspirated driving experience, too.

    Kind of like the Scion FRS / Subaru BRZ (back when that’s what they were called). I would have rather had the Subaru because it’s a more honest badge. It was all Subaru under the skin and the only reason I would have picked the Scion was good financial sense.

  • avatar
    anomaly149

    I have a downright irrational love for this car. Kinda how I feel about the Alfa 4c.

    I know my 4-banger Mustang in eye-searing yellow is probably a better car, but still. That’s Italian cars, isn’t it?

  • avatar
    stuki

    I think it looks great. As does the Miata. The new Miata looks lots more edgy, perhaps younger. While this one really does a good job of translating the more relaxed, carefree feel of the original Spider. I bet the different engine choices will reinforce this, as well.

    Low, sleek, long hood short deck roadsters, tend to look good, pretty much any which way you render them. Especially set against the current backdrop of high beltline blobs.

    • 0 avatar
      frozenman

      I think the Spider is a more “mature” design with a large dose of retro thrown in, subjective styling comments may well fall into demographic camps. Funny how the the geezer version is easier to tune for HP right out of the box, maybe Mazda needs to step up.

      • 0 avatar
        mike978

        The Fiat is 100lb heavier, so it needs some of the extra power.
        Interesting to see if the suspension is set up the same, or did Mazda keep the best for them.

      • 0 avatar
        stuki

        Big HP is pretty much a geezer thing by now. Those are the guys who grew up in an era where HP was something impressive to clamor for. Noone who grew up being carted around in the back of daddy’s AMG, or even mommy’s 300hp CUV, is going to care much about HP.

        • 0 avatar
          White Shadow

          Surely you must be kidding…. The HP wars are bigger now than ever. Big HP has been a big deal for many, many years now. How else can you explain 600+ HP Mustangs and 700+ HP Chargers? Hell, I remember when the Viper came out with 400 HP and everyone thought that we’d never see a production car with more HP than that. And of course today you can get more HP in a garden variety Mustang GT for $30k and change. A late model V6 Camry makes more HP than an 80s/early 90s Foxbody Mustang. Yes, big HP is still a big thing.

          • 0 avatar
            stuki

            “How else can you explain 600+ HP Mustangs and 700+ HP Chargers?”

            Geezers have all the money.

  • avatar
    jerseydevil200

    I like the Miata. It is iconic. Fun.

    I love this Fiat. Its stunning. The Miata is not stunning.

    I owned both a Mustang and a Fiat sports car. Mustangs are the same as they have always been, small sporty lookin Fords. Nice cars, I like them. Mustangs, however, are not sports cars.

    The Mustang is large. This Fiat is small. The Mustang comes with huge engines, this Fiat does not.

    I like them both. But they are very different.

  • avatar
    GeneralMalaise

    They are both attractive cars and people who fancy themselves to be “car enthusiasts” should be celebrating affordable, great-handing, drop top sports cars,… no? But no, the Flo n’ Eddie crowd crawl all over each other trying to see who can be the snarkiest.

  • avatar
    VenomV12

    It’s like a Miata with the front end of the last Thunderbird. I think I prefer the Miata.

  • avatar
    davefonz164

    That Fiat doesn’t do photos well for some reason. I saw it up close at the Auto show in Montreal and it had a nice stance, nice lines and a clean design. Obviously the older one was far more elegant.

    The Abarth though, minus any silly decals and decent rims will be amazing.

  • avatar
    stryker1

    Looking forward to picking one of these up, second hand, in a few years for around $13,000

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