By on November 27, 2015


Audi has suspended two engineers for their involvement in helping Volkswagen’s larger 3-liter diesel engine pass emissions, according to Audi’s CEO. (Or you know, Volkswagen’s other, other emissions scandal.) The engine is used in the Porsche Cayenne and Audi’s range of sedans and crossovers.

Audi CEO Rupert Stadler told German newspaper Donaukurier that two engineers were suspended Wednesday and that the company was learning about its engines along with the rest of us.

So I checked it several times: Is our six-cylinder clean? Do we have a (‘defeat device’)? And multiple statements in the board meeting were: no,” Stadler said about an October meeting with Audi’s top executives. 

In November, the California Air Resources Board and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency notified Volkswagen — and its luxury brands Porsche and Audi — that a “temperature conditioning” mode in its 3-liter diesel engines was helping cheat those cars through emissions testing. The agencies said the mode constituted an illegal “defeat device,” which the automakers initially denied.

This week, Audi acknowledged the mode and two other modes designed to control emissions weren’t disclosed to regulators and that the temperature conditioning mode was a defeat device.

In all, roughly 85,000 cars are affected. Volkswagen issued a larger stop-sale this month for cars with the illegal software, which include the Porsche Cayenne, Volkswagen Touareg, and Audis A6, A7, A8, Q5 and Q7 models.

Stadler said he probably won’t listen to the guys who told him the engines were clean anymore, I guess.

“This is the subject of current investigations. I want to know the truth,” he said. 

According to Reuters, the 3-liter diesel engine was built by Audi at its Neckarsulm facility.

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7 Comments on “Audi Suspends Two Engineers Over 3-liter Diesel Scandal; Still Has No Idea How This Happened...”

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    Well, it’s plausible the CEO didn’t know, since those guys rarely know what’s going on far below their corporate station. It’s also possible assemblers building the engine didn’t know, since they likely got all the electronics from the VW corporate parts bin. It’s even possible most of the Audi engineers didn’t know about the programming modes since their area of expertise doesn’t cover engine control programming. But a few engineers HAD to know, and MUST have been told by SOMEBODY to keep quiet about it. Still, they’d all have to claim they don’t read automotive news or turn on the radio/TV to claim to be shocked, shocked that cheat modes had been employed.

    • 0 avatar
      Big Al from Oz

      You could be correct in that the CEO could of been clueless regarding these defeat devices.

      I believe the CEO is fully accountable. What was the corporate culture like the CEO enforcing.

      I do find it hard to believe that a series of similar or exact issues across a large institution occurred without the seniors realising something was amiss, or lower levels of management were adhering to direction.

      Why and how could this of occurred across the different VAG brands?

      Many would of known through all levels of the business.

      A cover up with scape goats is what I’m expecting.

      Remember the three laws of institutional culture.

      1. The institution is protected first,

      2. The chain of command is protected, second, and finally,

      3. The victims are protected third.

      The victims also include those who are instructed to perfrom the “dirty” work for the bosses. Almost Mafia like and fear is used to manage those involved.

    • 0 avatar

      The CEO knew. I refuse to believe he’s that ignorant.

      He may not have known exactly all the vehicles it applies to. It sounds like he was trying to get that information from the engineers and wasn’t given a straight story. If that’s the case, I’m OK with heads rolling.

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    What is missing from VW’s revelation is how long they have been suspended for – one afternoon? One week? Indefinitely?
    Or maybe they get the German equivalent of the American police “administrative leave with pay for shooting a suspect while we conduct our investigation”…

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    Well Reuters got that one wrong. The V6 TDI is made at Audi’s Gyor plant in Hungary. The 2.0 TDI EA189, another Audi design, was also churned out at Gyor. They make almost 2 million engines a year there.

    Necharsulm assembles cars and fiddles around with engine prototypes, but so does Gyor according to their own website.

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    In the end the mailroom clerk will be blamed for all the problems…CASE CLOSED

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    This is what happens when the higher office has close to zero involvement in both engineering and quality assurance/control. At least Akio Toyoda sits in many engineering meetings and involves himself in driving every single model Toyota makes, before it gets released into the mass market. It doesn’t mean a 100% product but at least the emoloyees know who is actually the boss and to whom they will be reporting to.

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