By on January 12, 2015

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The King of Truck Mountain is ready for its return to Baja Valley below in its latest Raptor incarnation.

The 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor is powered by a 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 delivering more power than the outgoing 6.2-liter V8’s 411 horsepower and 434 lb-ft of torque, though just how much more hasn’t been stated. Said power is directed to all corners via a paddle-shifted 10-speed automatic, and managed by a torque-on-demand transfer case. The front pair of wheels also boast a new Torsen front differential for greater off-road prowess.

Supporting the Raptor is standard FOX Racing Shox suspension, which uses custom internal bypass tech to “damp and stiffen suspension travel over rough terrain,” preventing the truck from bottoming out after leaping over a small hill or two. A set of 17-inch wheels mounted in BF Goodrich All-Terrain KO2 tires help cushion the blow as the truck claws its way through the trails.

The body is composed of high-strength military-grade aluminum that weighs 500 pounds less than the outgoing Raptor, and is supported by a purpose-built high-strength steel frame, the strongest frame throughout the entire F-150 range.

Other features include: six driving modes; traction control; stability control; advanced LED lighting and camera tech; roof-mounted auxiliary controls inside the cab; and three color material levels.

The 2017 F-150 Raptor is set to go on sale in the fall of 2016, and will leave for showrooms from the Dearborn Truck Plant in Dearborn, Mich.

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76 Comments on “NAIAS 2015: 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor Ready For Return To Baja Valley...”


  • avatar
    Drzhivago138

    Personally, I’m still wondering why the Raptor can’t have a SuperCab/6.5′ box if it’s been available as a SuperCrew 5.5′ box (same wheelbase) since 2011.

    • 0 avatar
      DenverMike

      The shorty Raptor super cab looks lean and mean. The crew cab looks fat soccer mom, mall crawler, boulevard stormer. Not as bad a Porsche crossover, but still.

    • 0 avatar
      Carilloskis

      The f150 uses a modular frame 2 front sections 2wd and 4wd 3 center sections crew, super cab and regular, and 5 rear bed sections HD 8′ red 8′ hd 6.5′ reg 6.5′ 5.5 and 5.5 Raptor, the raptor section is different from the other 5.5′ section to accommodate the raptors full-size spare tire and different shock mount locations. it is a fraction of and inch different in wheel base on crew cabs 5.5 when you compare the actual numbers, (145″ is just the rounded number) I learned this after my truck got some front end damage and they replaced the front frame section.

  • avatar
    Hummer

    No surprise, they ruined it with the V6, perfect engine to use in heavy dust and fording water. If you were going to ruin it with a turbocharged engine you could have at least used the 5.0l.

    Nice to see they’re silently admitting the outgoing frame was trash.

    • 0 avatar
      CJinSD

      If history is anything to go by, Ford will punish early adopters with the POS V6 and then release the engine the Raptor needs as soon as the truck stops generating press.

      • 0 avatar
        carguy

        Ford no longer has a big V8 so its safe to say that there will be no V8. All those looking for large displacement cast iron block OHV enignes should head over to Fiat-Chrysler.

        • 0 avatar
          Hummer

          The 6.2 is still availible on the F250 and F350.

          It’s not a very big engine but it’s a much more suitable size for something that suppose to withstand the stress associated with the raptor.

    • 0 avatar
      caltemus

      There was actually demand for an ecoboost raptor. There was a company that was taking ecoboost F150s and putting all the raptor bits on em. I think Matt Farah drove one for tuned. I’m still not convinced that V8s are the end-all be-all, if the turbo 6 makes the same torque who cares?

    • 0 avatar
      RobertRyan

      I am still working what the Raptor is trying to achieve . It is not brilliant by any standards Off Road
      It does not carry much. Is it just image?

      • 0 avatar
        RobertRyan

        @Denvermike,
        Not disagreeing with you. You can have as many Raptors, Powerwagons that you want

        • 0 avatar
          DenverMike

          @RobertRyan – You just sound real confused about the Raptor’s purpose/mission.

          I don’t know how put it in a way you’ll understand. Meanwhile, explain the Holden HSV Maloo Ute/truck that you always tout. Why the ground FX? Who buys this and why. How does do off road? Ford rivers? Departure angle? What’s with the tonneau cover? How many cider block pallet will it carry. Sheets of drywall? Towing/Payload? Integrated trailer brake controller???

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            No confusion if you like the a Raptor/Powerwagon , nothing stopping you liking them

          • 0 avatar
            mik101

            “I don’t know how to put it in a way you’ll understand”.

            With that many spelling errors and missing letters I’m not sure most people will understand.

            Examples:
            “How does do offroad?”
            “Ford rivers”
            “cider block”

            Read before you post. That’s all I’m saying.

      • 0 avatar
        Carilloskis

        Robert Ryan, Have you driven a Raptor off Road? They have about a 1000lb payload while it is not a lot compared to other trucks, its significantly better than a jeep wrangler. it allows people to go on a weekend adventure and spend more time at their destination then on a trail getting bashed around. its a comfortable ride on long road trips and commutes. most raptor owners that i know use them off road and got them for that propose, as many of them like my self are not prior ford owners when they bought their raptors, but came from other brands tired of the race to the bottom with large low hanging front bumpers, (Im looking at you GM twins) and want to be able to remote places to engage in their hobbies.

        • 0 avatar
          RobertRyan

          @Carilloskis,
          As Lou_BC mentioned , not what people are looking for here. A Jeep Wrangler is more an Urban vehicle, people use The Diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee as a Caravan tow vehicle for Country and some Outback roads
          Major problem with Raptor, no Diesel and as you say featherlight payload

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      @Hummer – Ford had 3 different frame thicknesses/strengths for the previous F150. So how is running a Raptor specific frame an indication of weakness?

      The infamous incident where a bunch of Raptors bent frames on the same trail run were all modified trucks. They all ran softer springs with stock shocks. They also all had tuner kits allowing higher than stock speed limitations.
      The obstacle they hit was a sharp edged “bump” a few feet high. Hit a 2 ft. tall curb with any truck at 80 mph and tell me what will happen?
      That same run had bone stock Raptor’s hitting the same lip and NO frame damage.

      BUT with that being said, a truck advertised as a “jumper” should have a stiffer frame.

      I’d rather see a V8 in the Raptor BUT part of the weight saving comes from the Ecoboost.

      • 0 avatar
        DenverMike

        They modded leafs softer to “stick” the landing. Less rebound, therefor better control and mostly, no “A$$ over Tea Kettle”. Except the Fox Shocks weren’t modded and obviously not tuned for that spring rate. So with both rear shocks canted forward and the collapsed leafs, the frame gave at the shock mounts, between the cab mount and leaf mounts on severe impact.

        Notice ANYTHING you can do to a weak frame (or any frame) in ANY kind of crash or abuse, *especially jumping* is going to bend it so the cab strikes the bed, NOT open up in between, like a cracked egg!

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @DenverMike – the force impacting the rear wheels was directed up into the shock mounts and the frame at that location. That caused the widening of the box/cab junction.

          I must say that it was a testament to frame rigidity that the opposite did not happen i.e. narrowing of cab/box junction due to front end forces driving the front of the frame up and back.

    • 0 avatar
      mkirk

      Funny…I spun the hell out of the turbos on all manner of trucks overseas without issue but I suppose Iraq and Afghanistan aren’t as dusty or harsh as where the Raptor will be driven.

      • 0 avatar
        Hummer

        Diesel engine have much lower tolerances, have injectors that can push out trash without getting clogged everytime less than perfect ultra low sulfur is pumped through. And spin 3,500 rpm on a good day. They also allow the engine to run(most cases) with a failed turbo.

        There are few similarities, and we both understand that.

        • 0 avatar
          Big Al from Oz

          @Hummer,
          Yep, that’s why diesels are used in the extremely harsh environments in mining and farming.

          You make real sense, or fear.

        • 0 avatar
          RobertRyan

          @Hummer
          Outside NA a Petrol, Gas has a different connotation here Pickups, Vans and Trucks are rarer then hens teeth .
          It was not always the case even in Europe Battle Tanks of Europe were Petrol powered , Russia and Japan had the only diesels
          Petrol powered Trucks were around till the mid 50’s in Europe, then gradually Diesels too over

        • 0 avatar
          Carilloskis

          Hummer I think you meant higher tolerances , also with new tech i think that the new gasser turbos are going to be pretty much bullet proof,

    • 0 avatar

      The only thing most of these trucks are going to be fording is the Wal-Mart parking lot. The only thing most of them are going to be hauling is sorority girls. It’s laughable to evaluate it as a truck and not an image statement.

  • avatar
    JohnnyFirebird

    My first car job was as a photographer / jockey at a cramped BMW dealership where they had a Raptor as a trade. Took a few months to sell it. Moving that thing around a tiny lot was one of the worst things I’ve ever had to do.

  • avatar

    “Baja Valley”?

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    I will say I kind of liked the prior one, but this one has gone even MORE vulgar. The lights in the grille are silly, and the door cut lines look odd. And those wheels are ugly, like something you’d find on an old S-10 ZX4. Or whatever those were called.

    • 0 avatar
      Hummer

      The lights in the grille aren’t for looks, it’s a federal requirement, though they could have been placed on the roof in lieu of the grille.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        Why are they required for this sort of truck and not others? I have never heard of this!

        And the roof would certainly have been better. Some LED’s perhaps.

        • 0 avatar
          Hummer

          Marker lights are federally required for trucks over 80 inches wide, basically all 1/2 can pass without markers as they are generally 77-79 inches wide, some 3/4 are also able to slip by.

          The raptor is wider than a normal F150 requiring it to have marker lamps.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Thanks!

          • 0 avatar
            Tinn-Can

            Aren’t they usually on top of the cab though? It seems like they missed an opportunity to integrate in some of those LED light bars like all the bro trucks around here have done…

          • 0 avatar
            greaseyknight

            @Tinn-Can, it was actually a design feature in the first gen Raptors, at least it was touted as such. The Fed mandates a certain location for the lights, and the Raptor is tall enough that lights in the grill meet those regs.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        @Hummer – correct. Any truck as wide as the Raptor needs “clearance” lights.It is as wide as a 1 ton dually. The law does not stipulate where they go.

        Roof clearance lights on the Raptor would look lame.

  • avatar
    James2

    The hp numbers are wrong. That’s what the old 6.2 V8 makes; the press release says the Ecoboost V6 will make more.

  • avatar
    formula m

    Sounds like it’s still the best off-road setup available. Looks like an oversized Kia Optima mesh grill and the front skid plate looks very similar to the Chevy Avalanche 2009-2010. Hopefully much more substantial

    • 0 avatar
      RobertRyan

      Not good at doing that, Ford could have produced maybe a true Off Road Pickup, but this half hearted attempt falls well short

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        @RobertRyan – off-roading is a hugely variable sport. The Raptor is meant for faster open spaces. It won’t run trails with a Wrangler Rubicon. it will run with a Power Wagon which is now just a neutered 3/4 ton truck.

        • 0 avatar
          RobertRyan

          @Lou_BC
          It is not really a category here, more a NA thing.Agree about the Powerwagon

          • 0 avatar
            DenverMike

            Yeah Lou. They don’t have riverbeds or deserts in OZ. The more you know..

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            No the Raptor is a NA specific vehicle, bit like those Homemade Delivery Vans you used to have a lot in the US

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Don’t you speak ill of the multi-stop truck Robert! Dems fighting words. I can haul so many tools and equipment in those things. It’s a damn rolling command center.

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            I take it all back! I notice Isuzu has now got it’s own version, with the Little 3litre Diesel from the NLR, it sells in the US

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            @RobertRyan

            I have seen the Isuzu Reach Van. I think it is awesome. If I was still buying commercial vehicles I would seriously look at one.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @DEnverMike – the Raptor won’t work in Australia because you need the cargo capacity to be able to survive in extremely remote areas. I wouldn’t want a Raptor where I live either if spending a few weeks in the back country were my goal.

          • 0 avatar
            DenverMike

            @Lou_BC – It’s an all-out Hot Rod truck, nothing like, but in the spirit of the Lightning, SS 454, SRT-10 truck, Typhoon, etc. So why do ANY of them NEED to exist???

            And who cares if our Aussie friends are confused or offended by them? And why do any of these trucks need to perform work like their working class cousins they’re based on?

            Ii think it’s the bed that has some upset. If it had a trunk, a BMW badge and you had to rent a truck from The Home Depot to do the DIY thing, they’d understand.

        • 0 avatar
          MrIcky

          I got to see both Raptors and Power Wagons doing real work at the fires near Sun Valley Idaho 2 years ago. Both were pretty incredible and there was nothing neutered about the Power Wagon. The Power Wagons particularly were towing utility trailers while loaded down and 6 occupants running over non-roads in the Forest Service land. My opinion of both increased a lot after seeing that.

          Not a Wrangler, but they do what they say they do.

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            That is all terrain MDT’s here, more the 30,000lb GVWR variety. At least they use the Raptor and Powerwagon for something

          • 0 avatar
            RobertRyan

            Instead of the Reach Van, they sell this NLR and the Isuzu Ute, all use the same 3litre Diesel. Despite it’s size is a heavy duty cycle engine

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @MrIcky – the “new” Power Wagon lost 300-400 lb of cargo capacity over the previous one.

            That is what I mean when i say neutered.

            I have seen 2 Power Wagons used as work trucks and 2 Raptors.

            Rapid response Forest fire suppression crews in my area of Northern Canada use diesel HD 1 ton chassis cab crew pickups. I’ve even seen a Unimog as a fire unit.

            The Power Wagon is too expensive in Canada coupled with an aforementioned lack of capacity.

            Even Conservation Officers (game wardens) and rural RCMP do not use them. Both use police spec HD pickups with winch bumpers.

            The Raptor is extremely expensive in Canada and like the PW has crappy cargo capacity.

        • 0 avatar

          Power Wagon still has F&R lockers, sway bar disconnect and a 12k lb winch from the factory.

          What part of it is neutered compared to before?

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @mad_science
            Sway bar disconnect sucks in mud. I know a hardcore Jeep guy with an Unlimited Rubicon.

            Neutered because it cannot remotely carry anything close to that of a comparable HD.

            A HD pickup is made to carry and tow. Any mods that kill capacity is a spay neuter job.

      • 0 avatar
        CoastieLenn

        @RobertRyan: Half hearted attempt? What’s your basis for comparison? There is no other manufacturer that is offering anything near the level of offroad technology and packaging that the Raptor is. So, by process of elimination, this is the actual pinnacle of mass-produced, “baja ready” trucks. Sure, GM, Toyota, Ram and the like all have trim packages that give bigger tires, fancy painted shocks and skid plates (the RAM even gives you a WINCH!!)… but nothing like this. Nothing to this extent.

        • 0 avatar
          RobertRyan

          @CoastieLenn,
          In comparison to the other US manufacturers, it is a lot better and fulfils a niche in what you want in the US

        • 0 avatar
          outback_ute

          I would say the ‘Pickup’ part of the phrase implies it should be able to carry something. The Raptor has a pretty pathetic load capacity even without considering it as a pickup – a full tank of fuel and passengers will take you close to or over the GVW, which does not leave much for recovery gear or trailer tongue download weight.

  • avatar
    Boxerman

    If its an image truck or an off road high content truck it needs a V8. Peak HP is not the only measure of power. Response and a braod spread are important too.

    On top of all of that Ducati made name selling v twins as did harley because of the sound, cadence and TQ characteristics. The type of motor and the sound it makes ius a big p[art of a vehicles charter, and a raptor is all about character.

    • 0 avatar
      dal20402

      The torque curve of this particular V6 is a good deal broader and flatter than that of any V8 currently installed in a pickup.

      • 0 avatar
        RobertRyan

        The inline 6 cylinder Ford Barra engine in the Ford Falcon has an even stronger torque curve. pulling From 1800 rpm, 415lbs ft of torque, 420hp. Quite easy to lift those numbers, some street engines putting out 1000hp

  • avatar
    ajla

    Sad to see the 6.2 go. The amount of fun that engine provides is underrated.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      @ajla – the 6.2 engine wasn’t a big seller in F150’s. I’ve only ever encountered a few of them.

      • 0 avatar
        Hummer

        As a $5,000 option who the heck is going to pick it, Ford never wanted to sell any, the proof is in the price. The 6.2 should have been the same price as the ecoboost, or heck, it has two less cams and two less turbos, it should have been much cheaper.

  • avatar
    balreadysaid

    It is what it is! People buy low to the ground pickups with A/T 35″ tires and v6’s while not utilizing the 5 foot bed that cant fit an all mountain bicycle without a bike rack. AND PAY RETAIL FOR IT! Ford knows how to make money. If they built a f550 srw v10 power wagon destroyer, or iveco daily competitor. They would sell, but never break, and buyer wouldnt need another for 20 years even if they used it to full potential. Either of those two concepts would cost 2/3rds at the most of this new 10 speed turbo charged 2 seater.

    • 0 avatar
      RobertRyan

      Correct about the IVECO Daily, it has now got the 9 speed ZF. Talked to a U.S. student working for the Great Moscow Circus as a Driver. He was very very impressed by the little IVECO, saying it was a cross between a F250 and F450 in Capabilities, but so easy to drive.

    • 0 avatar
      Carilloskis

      balreadysaid are you trolling bro the Raptor has the best stock ground clearance of any pickup . the T6 Ranger has 237mm ground clearance the raptor super cab has 9.5 in of running ground clearance or 241.3 mm it only has a 7 inch shorter wheel base and 10inches less in overall length so other than width and height the raptor is very close to a Global pick up, and arguably the best global pickup off road. the Raptor can comfortably sit five full grown adults in it even in super cab form so its not a 2 seater. I wish i could up load a picture i have of my raptor with two mountain bikes and a bunch both other stuff in the bed of. plus there are a lot of vehicles that cannot fit a mountain bike in, or the one of me and a friend campaign with a bed full of fire wood, or the time the bed was full of beverages to stock a friends wedding reception, or the countless other times i have filled the bed of the raptor up for both on road use and off road. yes people pay retail or raptors and their are other vehicles that people do the same thing on, including most specialty cars, no Dodge Hellcat will sell for less than MSRP, no Land Cruisers, or Range Rover, Range Rovers sport with the supercharger. Ford doesn’t have to offer rebates and incentives to move the trucks and neither do the dealers, its supply and demand.

  • avatar
    Spike_in_Brisbane

    I’ll believe that it is tough when I see one in the Dakar Rally and not before. Let Robby Gordon have one.

    • 0 avatar
      RobertRyan

      It has been there. Finished 41st about two years ago. Another Chilean one finished 53rd and the other running last year did not finish.
      RG is running his ASO approved “Gordini” Buggy with a Hummer body, currently standing 32nd place. Fight for the podium is between the “MINI” basically a BMW SUV with a 3 litre 320hp, 433lbs ft of torque Diesel,and the sleeved down Tundra engined Hilux’s

  • avatar
    Big Al from Oz

    The Raptor should be good on wide open trails in the desert where you only need to drive short distances as it’s payload and FE would be abysmal. Sort of an overly large and expensive quad.

    Wouldn’t be too good for a decent outing, it wouldn’t last.

    Where the Raptor can do 98mph on a track a “normal” 4×4 will do 60mph.

    You could buy a decent suspension kit for a “normal” 4×4 and get 8/10s of a Raptor for a couple of grand.

    Does it represent value? No. It only represents value to FoMoCo as most will be expensive Mall Trawlers.

    Most of the so called off road experts on many of these sites have never been of road and probably wouldn’t be able to gain the maximum out of an AWD CUV on a track, so how could you expect them to maximise the potential of a SUV/pickup with 4 hi/lo, let alone a Raptor.

    • 0 avatar
      RobertRyan

      @Big Al from Oz,
      It’s best finish in the Dakar was 41st, best in it’s class. Well it was a Baja class for slightly modified vehicles, the only other competitor in the class dropped out. What is interesting a Japanese Competitor in his totally stock Lancruiser finished 16th

  • avatar
    Carilloskis

    Big al the raptor represents value for those who are good at shopping my 2010 raptor’s msrp was 42k I got it for 37k I looked at switching to the crew cab version and one dealer wanted 17k over msrp to order one. A dealer closer to home wanted MSRP. The fact is when a loaded FX4 cost 53k and the raptor costs 55k. And you need the raptors extra capabilities it comes to be cheaper than aftermarket , except that one can haggle more on an FX4. The higher bumper of the raptor and heavy duty skid plate are needed on slit of the trails I took my truck on in utah. The shocks helped me cross large parts of the open desert quickly to get to some cool spots that would have taken a normal 4×4 3 times as long. There aren’t any trails I have come across that the raptor is to big for as out in ut az and co they make it illegal to deviat from forest service and blm roads. It is funny when you see a wrangler going slow and pass it going at twice the speed. Yes I know how to use hi and low 4×4 and my rear diff and yes I have gotten the raptor stuck on two occasions but the truck is a beast at what it does. Combined with the luxary its a bargin compared to land cruisers and range rovers.

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