By on November 19, 2014

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Big news for fans of the Jaguar F-Type (i.e. me). You can now row your own gears.

V6 rear-drive versions of the F-Types can be speced with a 6-speed manual gearbox. No manual will be available for the V8, but that’s ok, since the V6 is, in my opinion, the pick of the range.

V8 versions will have standard all-wheel drive to help tame all 550 horsepower. AWD will be optional on the V6. The 911 Carrera 4 may have just met its match.

Apparently, the manual comes at the expense of the hydraulic steering system, which will be replaced with electric steering. So, manual and EPAS, or a current automatic car with hydraulic assist?

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26 Comments on “Los Angeles 2014: Jaguar Adds Manual, AWD F-Type Options...”


  • avatar
    JMII

    Finally the fixed the one thing (well I once win the lottery) that was stopping me from buying it… wait its only for the V6? Forget it then :(

  • avatar
    S2k Chris

    Awesome news for all the guys driving around in $2500 Miatas saying they’d never buy an F-Type since it was an automatic.

    My prediction: take rate of <5% (probably <2%) and it quietly goes away by 2017.

    • 0 avatar

      They will build 50. 24 to JLR VPs, 24 to the press fleets, 2 in private hands.

      • 0 avatar
        krhodes1

        Correction, they will sell a very few in North America – it will be chosen by the majority of buyers in the rest of the world.

        I was stunned to find that Mercedes still offers a stick in the SLK. And bummed that they don’t in the CLK with the same engine.

        • 0 avatar
          S2k Chris

          I know it’s fun to pretend us dumb Americans hate manuals and the enlightened Euros embrace them, but the reality is the reverse. Look at the BMW M5, the stick is US-only. The Euros buy their low-end crap boxes with sticks, but in high end cars, America is the only place that cares about the stick shift.

          • 0 avatar
            CJinSD

            True. Ferrari and Porsche’s track-oriented models are other examples of once-enthusiast cars that Europeans now buy only as automatics.

          • 0 avatar
            krhodes1

            Only true for track-oriented cars. The average 5-series or E-class in Europe is still a manual transmission. And so will be this Jaguar, I expect. Actually is this even a new development anywhere but North America? Automatics ARE making inroads and are much more popular than they used to be, but I’d be surprised if even in the mid-sizers in Europe they are even 50% at this point.

            Partially this is because the average engine over there is much smaller of course, the handfuls of big engine cars are largely automatics.

            The M5 is very much an aberration in that enough previous gen US M5 owners made enough noise that BMW actually did engineer a stick just for them.

          • 0 avatar
            S2k Chris

            “The average 5-series or E-class in Europe is still a manual transmission.”

            Citation needed, bro. Unless you’re referring to taxi/livery and rental cars, in which case it’s because they’re cheap, not “preferred”.

          • 0 avatar
            krhodes1

            Citation, “Bro” is going over there on a reasonably regular basis and paying attention.

    • 0 avatar
      Maymar

      For what it’s worth, a quick check of remotely competing sports cars on my local Auto Trader show most having a manual take-rate somewhere between 33-50% (although something like two-thirds of the R8s within 100km of me are 3-pedals).

      No guarantee of how this would scale up to the entire North American market, or if those are a proper representation of the proportions of stick or manual that were actually built, but people are at least still buying sports cars with stick shifts, enough that Jaguar must have found a way to justify getting it built.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    That man did not put on a suit jacket before slipping behind the wheel. Thus, he is not a proper Jag owner.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    Im shuddering thinking about the curb weight of the AWD F-Type R

    XJ’s AWD system adds ~300lbs to its curb weight…….. FTR weighs ~3650lbs. So in the end this thing might be a car as small as a 911 that weighs as much as a Panamera

    Isnt this thing made out of aluminum too? Why is this car so heavy?

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Pomp and circumstance isn’t light.

    • 0 avatar
      ellomdian

      I feel obliged to remind you that there are 911’s that weight 3700 lbs…

      • 0 avatar
        sportyaccordy

        Yea but most 911s that aren’t Turbo Cabriolets weigh less than even the lightest F Type, while being just as fast and better sorted dynamically.

        Plus, a steel body supercharged V8 C6 ZR1 weighs ~3350-3400lbs depending who u ask. So on that apples to apples comparo the F-Type R is still ~300lbs overweight. And then on top of that it will gain a few hundred lbs for the AWD system. This thing is like the BMW E31… glaze your BVDs gorgeous but confusingly overweight and less than optimal dynamically.

        • 0 avatar
          CJinSD

          C6 Corvettes didn’t have steel bodies. The Z06 and ZR1 had aluminum frames, balsa floors, and the ZR1 used a mixture of SMC and carbon-fiber body panels over a magnesium roof structure. They aren’t light by accident.

        • 0 avatar
          ellomdian

          “and better sorted dynamically”

          According to who, for what purpose? I’d rather have the 911 when I need to go quickly around a track, but I wouldn’t want to spend more than 15 mins in one as a DD if I had the F-Type next to it.

    • 0 avatar
      hubcap

      Car and Driver lists the F-Type R coupe at 3,950#. Just for reference that’s about 125# lighter than a ZL1 and we all know how much of a “pig” that car is.

      Here’s the thing, the Cheby is based off of an older frame made primarily of lead. The Jag is new and aluminuminny (yeah I just made that word up).

      So what gives and why so little talk of the car’s weight in comparison to others?

    • 0 avatar
      Fred

      Well the Lotus Evora is a fat 3000 lbs at least by Lotus standards. Of course that is accomplished without the luxury features of Jags, Porsches and Vettes

  • avatar
    Fred

    Driver seems to be staring at that big center console. Really am I the only one left who isn’t impressed by all this infotainment jazz?

  • avatar
    stuki

    I’m beginning to like all these manual announcements….

  • avatar
    smartascii

    I’m still hung up on the fact that the gearbox has something to do with the power steering assist system. Why on earth would a third pedal have anything to do with it?

    • 0 avatar
      burgersandbeer

      I’m guessing the hydraulic steering wouldn’t fit with the manual, at least not without design changes that would add even more cost to offering the manual. Maybe a logistics/engineering reason?

      It is an obvious question. If only someone at the show would ask when given the news :)

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