By on August 13, 2014

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Nearly 4.6 inches of rain fell over Detroit Monday, flooding several areas throughout the city and grinding operations to a halt for the Detroit Three.

Automotive News reports General Motors closed its Technical Center Tuesday due to flooded highways and power outages. According to representative Katie McBride, the closure affected 19,000. She added that some employees returned later in the day to work second-shift, and that other parts of the center will reopen dependent on repairs needed. No other GM facility closed due to the weather.

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles representative Jodi Tinson reported that four of the automaker’s Detroit plants — Jefferson North Assembly, Sterling Heights Assembly, Sterling Stamping and Warren Stamping — were all severely affected by flooding and road closures. In addition, a car carrier loaded with Chrysler 200s was stranded when flood waters reached its position on Mound Road near I-696 in Warren.

Ford representative Kristina Adamski said production was slowed Monday evening in five of its plants in the area, with supplier delays affecting the automaker’s plants in Chicago and Louisville, Ky. She added that production returned to normal Tuesday.

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37 Comments on “Detroit Three Operations Hindered By Flooding...”


  • avatar

    I, for one, will be avoiding buying any cars with a build date of earlier this year, or previously registered in Michigan. On a car forum I belong to, a guy posted some photos of his car in his parking area and said people were still being rescued from the tops of their cars on the freeway the other day (via listening to police scanner)! Divers went in later, after people got rescued, and they were checking for bodies in case anyone didn’t make it to the top of their vehicle.

    • 0 avatar
      thegamper

      I think that may be a little extreme. I am a resident of the Detroit area and can say that there are very few areas that recieved the type of flooding that would destroy cars. Most of the car flooding damage was brought about by owners attempting to ford the flooded areas, not by flood waters reaching parked cars. There are probably several thousand cars that received some damage, but really limited mostly to low lying highway underpasses, poorly drained and low lying areas. Remember also, that the east coast is getting slammed ever harder than Detroit so you might want to expand you “no buy list” by several states.

    • 0 avatar

      Do you avoid cars built in California because of mudslide season? What about the hurricanes that have hit New Orleans, or even Staten Island?

      My question is, should infrastructure, like the pumps that keep freeway underpasses above water during rainfall, be designed to accommodate a 100 year storm? We got 6 inches of rain in some parts of the region. I heard one mayor say it was the heaviest rainfall in 90 years.

      Of course Detroit area freeways flood once or twice a year even without a 100 year storm. It’s the price we pay for living where the highest elevation might be 300 feet above the levels of Lake Huron and Lake Erie and the area is riven with rivers and filled with lakes. We live in the middle of some huge inland seas, the Great Lakes. Water is a fact of life here. In fact, Michigan license plates read “Water Winter Wonderland” when I was growing up.

    • 0 avatar

      What a tragedy for everyone involved, and especially those who didn’t make it. As for the affected cars, you just know that some of these cars are going to end up making it further west as “pristine, one-owner” examples. Barring a hydro-locked engine, many cars’ mechanical bits are surprisingly resilient to water. It’s the electronics and harnesses (which tend to be stored on or near the vehicle floor) that will give you never-ending issues if they are exposed to water. The good thing is that actually repairing a flood-damaged car to true pre-flood conditions tends to be cost-prohibitive for the person doing the repairs (like taking the *whole* car apart, at the least), so there’s nearly alway some sort of shortcut that can be exposed if you take due diligence in inspecting the car before you buy it. *Caveat emptor.*

      • 0 avatar

        I try to avoid any cars from other states unless they have stringent inspection standards like PA. I will avoid cars from or that records show may have been passed through title-washing states.

        Not a big issue as most of my cars were through family members or stuff companies they work for were selling, etc.

        • 0 avatar
          JohnnyFirebird

          Yeah, I generally tell people who require that level of detail to the records of their purchases that they’re better buying a 1 owner car off of friends or going new.

  • avatar

    Geology is astounding.
    A place like California can experience record drought and meanwhile Detroit can flood.
    Only these “global warming” people would learn from that.
    The earth has no “regular” wearher patterns.
    Some day deserts will either be frozen or underwater.
    Someday Antarctica will be a tropical climate.
    I love plate tectonics.

    • 0 avatar
      Chicago Dude

      If anyone bothered to actually read the Obama administration’s climate change report they would see that this is exactly what is predicted to happen. The upper midwestern United States is going to come out golden in all of this, as long as it can deal with these huge storms. 4.6 inches of rain in a single day is an incredible amount of water.

      Chicago has the largest storm water retention system in the world under construction, complete with a natural aeration system to ensure that the water is safe to release after a short time.

      Up in Milwaukee, which for a few decades has been the source of most of the Chicago-area lake pollution (anything more than a light rain overloads their sewer system and dumps raw sewage into Lake Michigan, which then drifts down to Chicago beaches), they are working on a plan to turn the (concrete) basements of abandoned houses into neighborhood cisterns. If they get that worked out economically, Detroit is likely to adopt that idea.

      The farmers just need to start getting water drainage and storage infrastructure in their fields and they’ll be making serious $$$ over the next few decades. Longer growing seasons, more water and more CO2 is what they can look forward to, all the while farmers in other parts of the globe see their fields dry up and blow away.

      But hey, no problem, keep pretending its a scam. Your wallet is going to start opening a bit wider and sending more of your money to flyover country. Just a little bit at a time; you might not even notice.

      • 0 avatar
        danio3834

        This kind of storm in the area is hardly a part of a trend.

      • 0 avatar
        thelaine

        Yawn. Told you this was a religious discussion.

      • 0 avatar
        brettc

        Chicago Dude – I’m surprised at the news coverage these storms are getting. The mainstream/zombie news outlets act like it’s no big deal. People better get used to this sort of stuff because these “unusual” rain and snow events are going to be very common. Climate change deniers keep talking about unusual weather events but don’t seem to understand that weather and climate are different. Climate change is here. Governments and the public didn’t bother to do much of anything about it despite warnings decades ago so now it’s a reality. So 5″ or more in a day is going to happen and it won’t be a 100 year event any longer. There will also be ridiculous temperature extremes and frequent drought conditions for a lot of areas. Along with tornadoes in areas that never used to experience such things
        (Revere, MA last week). The climate change report is pretty friggin’ scary, too bad most people won’t read it.

        Anyway, my 2 cents because I’m confused as to how other people are confused about all of these surprising weather events, which are due to climate change.

    • 0 avatar
      calgarytek

      I suppose this will help GM dealerships get their excess inventories ‘wittled down’ and stall production of 2015 models.

      Not to hijack this thread, but I don’t remember the last time Detroit flooded. Climate change is a redundant term as climate is in continuous change.

      Also, BTSR, stick to covering Hellcats… I find myself a bigger fan of the airplane than the car though.

    • 0 avatar
      APaGttH

      It’s not geology it’s meteorology.

      If you’re going to write a climate change denier post at least get the area of scientific study right.

  • avatar

    http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrB8p6qVetTyEYAb_CJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTIyZDYxaTYzBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAM0NzVmYzBkOTQ4YTljMDIxODBkNzk4MGNhMDU5ZjY1ZgRncG9zAzEEaXQDYmluZw–?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Ddonk%2Bin%2Bflood%26fr%3Diphone%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D1&w=525&h=341&imgurl=s1.cdn.autoevolution.com%2Fimages%2Fnews%2Fthis-is-why-they-drive-donks-in-florida-60979_1.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autoevolution.com%2Fnews-image%2Fthis-is-why-they-drive-donks-in-florida-60979-1.html&size=63.4KB&name=This+Is+Why+They+Drive+Donks+in&p=donk+in+flood&oid=475fc0d948a9c02180d7980ca059f65f&fr2=piv-web&fr=iphone&tt=This+Is+Why+They+Drive+Donks+in&b=0&ni=21&no=1&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=12s49lq6e&sigb=1330369bt&sigi=12o7mjg01&sigt=10vha4tgd&sign=10vha4tgd&.crumb=O15RlFMDoNr&fr=iphone&fr2=piv-web

  • avatar
    thelaine

    Car God mad. Make giant flood. Must sacrifice adult female Detroit virgin……………

    Must come up with Plan B.

    • 0 avatar

      Keep in mind, there are plenty of nerdy church girls no one talks to.

      The ones who preach celibacy – as if they had a choice.

      You can continue with plan A.

      • 0 avatar
        thelaine

        Sounds like a fairly typical date for me years ago.

        “So, what are you in to?”

        “Celibacy.”

        “Wonderful.”

        • 0 avatar
          punkybrewstershubby aka Troy D.

          Celibate girls can be converted. Just not sure how.

          • 0 avatar

            Converting Celibate girls isn’t hard.

            They aren’t getting any attention at all. They are on Facebook posting “Jesus” praise and they DISAPPEAR around Valentines Day since they don’t have a man to buy them flowers/candy or take them out on a date.

            Basically, You take them on a decent date – spend less than $60 or so – and give them plenty of Facebook photos so they can brag to their friends who got impregnated at 18 and are now living as single mothers.

            Then they can change their relationship status from “It’s complicated” to “in a relationship with___”.

            Budweiser makes a 25-Ounce can of Mang-O-Rita that is enough Alcohol to seriously screw with my equilibrium despite my 6’6″ high BMI.

            A single Mang-O-Rita or a couple White Zinfandels turns “NO” into “Ok – let’s try it”.

            They are looking for a man with a job, a car and the words “I Love you” without trying to force you to say it over the phone.

            It’s really not that complicated.

    • 0 avatar
      punkybrewstershubby aka Troy D.

      Hey, thelaine, that is Detroit. There are NO virgins adult or otherwise in that city.

    • 0 avatar
      APaGttH

      Post of the day – you win the internet.

  • avatar
    schmitt trigger

    Repent of your sins! Doomsday is near! The End of the World is coming soon!

    And to celebrate the occasion, Jack Burt Chrysler has some 200s on sale!
    Hurry, while inventories last!
    No credit? No problem!

    • 0 avatar
      seth1065

      What is the finance rate? Will you take my 03 Honda civic as trade, I bought it in NJ after Sandy but she is not running too good, I need another import and the 200 might just be my new ride. Why yes I would like rustproofing , why do you ask ??

  • avatar
    danio3834

    All those Donk drivers have finally had their day.

  • avatar
    mcs

    Hopefully the ELR inventory is safe and dry.

  • avatar
    mars3941

    If the car carrier loaded with those new Chrysler 200’s got stuck in the flood and you can cut a good deal on one of them I’m in. I’ll take that loaded top of the line black one on top. Thanks.

  • avatar
    JohnAZ

    Can anyone please explain how CO2 caused a weather front to move slowly over the Detroit area and allow 5″ of rain to fall in the area? BTW, calling me a denier is not an explanation.

    • 0 avatar
      APaGttH

      …any explanation provided to my loaded question will be dismissed by me, but it will make for some great popcorn if someone actually takes a stab at this.

      Amuse me!!!

    • 0 avatar
      This Is Dawg

      “Rising temperatures can have several effects on the factors involved in weather. For example:

      •They increase the rate of evapotranspiration, which is the total evaporation of water from soil, plants and water bodies. This can have a direct effect on the fequency and intensity of droughts.

      •A warmer atmosphere can hold more water vapour. The atmosphere now holds 4% more water vapour than it did 40 years ago as a result of increasing temperatures. This increases the risk of extreme rainfall events.

      •Changes in sea-surface temperatures (SSTs) also have an effect by bringing about associated changes in atmospheric circulation and precipitation. This has been implicated in some droughts, particularly in the tropics.

      These changes don’t automatically generate extreme weather events but they change the odds that such events will take place. It is equivalent to the loading of dice, leading to one side being heavier, so that a certain outcome becomes more likely. In the context of global warming, this means that rising temperatures increase the odds of extreme events occurring.”

      http://www.skepticalscience.com/extreme-weather-global-warming.htm

      TL;DR it did not “cause a weather front to move slowly over the Detroit area and allow” anything. It is simply an increase in temperature and water vapour with different effects in different areas.

      • 0 avatar
        indi500fan

        It’s been well below avg summer temps in the Great Lakes. Indy hasn’t even sniffed a 90 deg day yet, most in the 70s. If I was a betting man, I’d wager the upcoming winter is another stinker.
        1976/77/78 was a pattern like that.

  • avatar
    bball40dtw

    Good thing the Big 3 don’t make cars in my basement. They would have had all of those cars filled with sewer water. I don’t feel bad for them, they probably have decent insurance policies.

  • avatar
    JohnnyFirebird

    I’m pretty sure the management at the Lil’ US 3 are all secretly breathing a sigh of relief – this will cut into the massive day supply numbers that TTAC posted about the other day without getting into union hassles.

    The downside is, of course, that they’ll still have to pay the employees and nothing will get made.

    So it’s probably a mixed sigh.

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