By on November 25, 2010

You’re shopping for a new Acura TSX, and you’re the kind of young go-getter who demands to shift it yourself. Naturally you’ll want to check it out online… but something’s wrong here…

Configuring the same car with an automatic shows the difference:

That’s right. Acura has decided that anybody crazy enough to order a stick shift in their TSX should be denied access to crazy colors like, uh, maroon and blue. What the hell? I suppose lime green is out of the question, no matter what you choose.

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59 Comments on “What’s Wrong With This Picture: The Color of Manually Edition...”


  • avatar

    Which is a shame, considering you need crazy colors to offset the effect of Dr Guillotin’s grille.

  • avatar
    86er

    Is the stick only part of a lower trim level now?

    The Japanese got this whole ball rolling with limiting colour choice, but they’ve even topped themselves in this regard.

  • avatar
    Sinistermisterman

    Well according to acura.ca, if you’re Canadian and want manual – you can have those paint options.

    • 0 avatar
      PlentyofCars

      The answer is simple.  

      Honda likely figured that to amply supply all market regions of the US with every exterior and interior color combination possible, would result in more TSX manual cars than they would likely be able to sell.

      How many people here looking for a manual of any car make/model, would instead buy an automatic because they like a certain color better ??
       
       

    • 0 avatar
      th009

      Not me.  Will not buy a car without a clutch pedal — or without sport seats.  That does rather limit my choices.  (My current car has a set of very nice aftermarket Recaros but I would really rather get the right kind of seats from the factory.)

  • avatar
    Rain

    Do people still buy the TSX? I don’t actually remember the last time I saw one…

  • avatar
    Mike C.

    Actually, the Ford Model T was available in colors other than black prior to about 1914… but this is pretty bizarre…

  • avatar
    segfault

    Only a five-speed automatic?  Still?

  • avatar
    don1967

    I didn’t realize that guys who know how to shift gears actually care about colour… not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  • avatar
    tbp0701

    At this point, we should probably be happy that Honda’s still willing to even put a stick shift in a TSX.  Of course, trying to find one on a dealer lot to test drive is another story.
     
    Rain – I see TSXs quite a bit, mainly in an office building parking garage. I tend to see more first gen. models, however, but that may be because I just notice them more.

  • avatar

    Sad to say that Honda/Acura are slowly giving up on those of us that refuse to own/drive an automatic transmission car.

  • avatar
    Jimal

    Volvo did this a few years ago with I think the S60/V60. I remember a friend of mine was cross shopping I believe this model of Volvo a few years ago (I know it wasn’t the S40, at that time the S40 was auto only in the U.S.) and it wasn’t the S80 (too expensive) and came across a very similar scenario.

  • avatar
    poltergeist

    I’m afraid Honda/Acura are slowly giving up on those of us that refuse to own/drive an automatic trans equipped vehicle.  They were one of the last holdouts it seems.

    • 0 avatar
      Sam P

      BMW offers far more choices than Honda/Acura for manual transmissions. You can even get an AWD 3-series wagon with a stick shift.

    • 0 avatar

      If you’re ok with a “vehicle”, you can always buy a Jeep Wrangler with a manual. No problem. It even has an air conditioner these days.
      As for BMW, the thing that ruins them is the run-flat mania.

    • 0 avatar
      poltergeist

      BMW?…..maybe,  Jeep Wrangler?….no thanks.  I’d take a new Nissan Fronty with a 6 speed manual first.  Been very happy with my MT 2000 Frontier.

    • 0 avatar
      Mirko Reinhardt

      Just get an Alpina D3 if you want a 3-series wagon with a stick and no run-flats.
      http://www.alpina-automobiles.com/en/models-alpina/d3-biturbo.html
      Oh wait, not willing to move to Europe?

    • 0 avatar
      Sam P

      Here’s the solution to the BMW run-flat issue. Get one of these for your E90 3-series.
       
      http://www.leatherz.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=01&Product_Code=SpaceSaverSpare&Category_Code=
       
      Had I not gotten an E46 (which is smaller than an E90 but carries a full-size spare in the trunk on an alloy wheel no less!) I’d have gotten the compact spare tire kit linked above and tossed it in the trunk.

    • 0 avatar
      hurls

      Sam P : try to find one on the dealer’s lot without custom ordering it… (here I’d use a goofy “rare as…” simile if I were an old school TTACer, but I’m not feeling it tonight).

  • avatar
    SherbornSean

    Not to mention the fact that they want 30 large for a gussied up 4 cylinder Accord.  The differences between this and a $22K EX are not worth close to $8K.

  • avatar
    jpcavanaugh

    When we ordered a Honda Fit in the summer of 2006, they came with two interior colors – gray/black and tan/black.  My wife wanted the tan interior.  Fine.  Even though it was offered with several exterior colors in base trim, it was only available with white paint on the Sport model.  Same fabric (seats and door panels, only).  But if you wanted a Fit Sport with tan interior, you had to take it with a white car.  Which we did.  This story seems to be the same kind of wierdness.

  • avatar
    Dave M.

    The differences between this and a $22K EX are not worth close to $8K.
     
    Yes they are.  Drive one – it’s a whole different country. Now the V6 TSX costing $10k more maybe might not be worth it…
     
    Looking forward to the wagon getting here.

  • avatar
    photog02

    I honestly believed that Honda only sold Acuras in silver. Guess I wasn’t boring enough to play on their website.

  • avatar
    r129

    It looks like if you want a manual, your only interior color choice is ebony.  I thought that might explain the limited exterior color selection.  Sure enough, the maroon color isn’t available with the ebony interior on automatic cars.  It almost started to make sense.  Then I clicked on blue, and it is in fact available with the ebony interior.  As a logical person, this makes no sense to me.

  • avatar

    When I bought my 2006 with a stick I really wanted to get the light blue color, which was an option, but it was impossible to find with a stick.  I had to settle for silver.  Oh well, the car is a delight anyways.

    • 0 avatar
      poltergeist

      Funny, when I bought my ’04 TSX I wanted a M/T in carbon grey.  I waited a month or so for my dealer to get one.  They had several silver one’s in stock, but I held out for the color I wanted.

    • 0 avatar

      I actually waited 5 months to get it.  the dealer assured me that they would be able to get one within that time frame.  Never happened, bought the silver one from another dealer.

  • avatar
    MistaWaRe

    Obviously what’s happening here is that they’re just going to build the one with a manual and by the time they get around to doing it, they expect to have run out of every paint color but white.

  • avatar
    TonyJZX

    i don’t think there’s a lot of ‘evil’ or deliberate hating of the manual lover
    it’s just a natural progression of where manuals are going (ie. nowhere)
     
    chances are Honda just don’t want to make different trims and fascias for the manual box when it’s less than 5% of sales… what’s the point?
    if you want manual you have to be circumspect with your choices

    • 0 avatar
      mountainman

      You are not joking – I would be lucky to find a manual transmission anything within a 100 mile radius of my hizzle.

      Man, I still can’t get over the ugly mug on that thing…..

  • avatar
    WaftableTorque

    There are car companies that will factory paint your car to lime green or whatever you desire.
     
    Unfortunately, just the sales tax from these brands would cost more than this TSX.

  • avatar
    M 1

    Levers with gears and more levers at the other end are for driving over hills and around curves at speeds that let you smell rubber in the process of being spalled off in those little curly squiggles, mixed with the unmistakable odor of hot brakes, or perhaps even dodging cones when circumstances collude to prevent one from engaging in actual sport. If you aren’t thinking about topics like turn-in markers and trail braking, that lever no longer serves any useful purpose.
     
    Autos have finally become stout enough and sufficiently reliable that sticks really don’t even make sense in trucks. I once had a very large 7800-pound ’01 V10 Ram 2500HD with what amounted to a 3-speed stick (1 granny gear, 1 overdrive, and 3 real gears), and I admit it was amusing to jam it into first gear and let it idle it’s way up a muddy hill towing 15,000 pounds of boat behind it. But I can’t say it was actually necessary, or useful.
     
    The Transportation Appliance category, which encompasses the TSX and nearly everything else made in Japan, should just stick with auto. They’re for going to work, taking kids to whatever parents take their kids to, and shopping, or whatever women do when they’re not making me a sandwich. And dragging boats and such. The things people do when they’re not road racing.

  • avatar
    PeregrineFalcon

    Nissan has been doing this for a while with the Altima (at least in Canada) – strangely enough, one of the colours they cut from the shift-it-yourself crew was blue as well.

    Clearly it’s a conspiracy against people who want to drive blue manual transmission cars.

  • avatar
    seabrjim

    My 69 dodge coronet had 6 choices- gold, white, black, green, red, blue. Today you get tan or gray. What boring interior colors we have.

  • avatar

    This still does not fix the real issue with the TSX….there is no manual with the V6- and what would work best for this car, the Turbo motor from the RDX, is not possible.
    If you wanted the manual in the TL, interestingly, it is the highest priced variant.  Probably figured anyone interested in the Manual was cross shopping BMW so there was still some $ on the table.
     

  • avatar
    ExPatBrit

    “Autos have finally become stout enough and sufficiently reliable that sticks really don’t even make sense in trucks.”
    Maybe in a big truck, in compact trucks I much prefer a manual. Even a V6 auto 4X4 is not a great performer in my opinion, and an auto 4 cylinder is purgatory.
    I have been stranded several times by a vehicle when the auto transmission broke. However in almost 40 years of driving manuals that has has never happened. Even when my clutch cable broke in the  London suburbs, I was able to drive to my home 32 miles away.
     
     
     
     

  • avatar
    Ian Anderson

    I’m going to have to send an invite to everyone on TTAC who can’t find a manual Acura to come to my nearest dealer, they usually have about five MT TSX’s and at least two TLs on the lot. Not to mention all the used cars.
     
    I agree with the general consensus on the colors though, there should be more options for people who want a stick, but it’s probably hard to justify the cost of making/shipping them. Though that shouldn’t keep it from being an order-only option.

  • avatar
    LeeK

    What in the world has happened to car colors in general in the past five years?  Everyone offers white, silver, black, and a couple of grays.  Even the TSX’s blue and red are muted and somber.  Is it the world’s economic malaise reflecting our mood?

  • avatar
    itsgotvtakyo

    Honda used to have some great colors too. I wanted the vortex blue pearl on my TSX but short of having it re-sprayed (which I never really considered), it wasn’t going to happen. They don’t even give you the option for a custom order. It seems to me like they’re just leaving money on the table. I love that companies like Audi and Porsche make this an option for their customers. Sure it costs a decent chunk of change but if I really had my heart set on one color on one car it would be worth every penny. Not only do you get the satisfaction of having the exact car you want there’s the added benefit of having something totally unique. The lime green on Baruth’s Audi was a perfect example. I don’t know if I’m buying that car I go with that color but I can appreciate the unique application of the color. I’m sure there are some painters out there that can come close to a factory finish, but at what cost?

  • avatar
    Lorenzo

    Exteriors are easy – just take it to Earl Scheib, and put a good coat of wax on it.  Interiors are a little tougher, but there are places that will dye the vinyl, replace the seat covers and carpet, and even glue fabric over the hard plastic. It’s an added expense, but if you price those changes first and buy only the mechanicals you want, you can apply the savings to cover part of that additional cost. You’ll have to keep the car awhile to make it all worthwhile. A better choice is used, so you can apply some of the saved depreciation to your “customization”.  That’s what it’s all coming to – manufacturers providing fewer choices and leaving the customer to make personal changes. There’s an investment opportunity for you –  franchised interior customization shops.

  • avatar
    itsgotvtakyo

    I’m well aware all of these things are possible but they’re prohibitively expensive and they can’t match the OEM when it comes to balancing cost/quality. If money were no object I wouldn’t have bought the TSX in the first place so I’m certainly not going to dump 10-15k into it that I’ll never see again.

  • avatar
    Steve65

    When I bought my 94 Sidekick, I paid $1500 extra to have the Electric blue over plain White. Amortized over the life of the vehicle (I still have it) $1500 was trivial, and if I’d cheaped out and gone with the while I’d have felt like I “settled” ever time I looked at it.
     
    Color selection is a “first cut” issue for me. For the amount of money we spend on vehicles, first, I want to enjoy looking at it. If I can’t get the features I want in a color I like, I move on. No shortage of vehicular fish in the sea to fish from.

  • avatar
    mjz

    The new FIAT 500 manual can be had in FOURTEEN exterior colors.

  • avatar
    Mr. Gray

    This is a bit of evidence supporting my prediction that in the near future, there will no longer be any cars made with manual transmissions

  • avatar
    hurls

    I’m not sure how many young go-getters can row their own these days, but I guess we can stipulate it for purposes of this discussion.

  • avatar
    Tifighter

    Another one: the Mazda5 with a manual. Three colors, two of which are silver and grey…

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