Detroit Tops May Incentives, Residuals Rise Regardless

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

Once again Detroit finds itself atop Edmunds’ True Cost of Incentive ranking of the top seven automakers [via earthtimes], as the domestic OEMs spent about $1.7b (or, about 60 percent) of the $2.8b paid out by the entire industry on incentives last month. Trucks were the most heavily discounted segment, with average incentives running around $4,650, or nearly 13 percent of the average segment sticker price. Saab spent the most by brand, slapping an average of $6,813 on its vehicles, with Lincoln coming in second at $4,987 per vehicle sold. Saab’s incentives equaled 17.1 percent of its average vehicle price, while Chrysler gave away about 12.2 percent of its average vehicle price last month.

Despite giving away more of their vehicles’ value than the foreign competition, Detroit has some surprisingly good news on the resale value front. Well, Ford and GM, anyway, and really, the resale news couldn’t have been much worse. According to Automotive News [sub]:


Automotive Lease Guide projects that 2010 vehicles from continuing GM brands and 2010 Ford brand cars will retain more than 40 percent of their sticker prices after 36 months. Five years ago, the residual forecasts for those brands’ cars except Cadillac were under 40 percent.

So, considering that Toyota and Honda enjoy about 51 and 54 percent of their original value after 36 months respectively, that’s not exactly break-out-the-champagne news… but it could have been worse. It could have been Chrysler:

Chrysler brand 2010 vehicles, in aggregate, have the industry’s lowest projected residual among continuing brands at 39.4 percent after 36 months, 2.1 percentage points lower than its 2005 projection. But the aggregate residual value for Chrysler Group’s Dodge brand is up a dramatic 8.2 percentage points to 41.8 percent. This does not include Ram brand trucks.

Ay Caramba! Needless to say, both Ford and GM’s resale value improvement (and Chrysler’s lack thereof) is largely attributed to new product. According to ALG’s chief economist:

All new models always have a price bump. The average is a 7 or 8 percentage-point bump for an all-new model compared with the old one

Lower inventories aren’t hurting either, and Edmunds is projecting that late-summer incentives won’t reach their typically fire-sale-like levels because automakers simply don’t have the inventories to shift. But as Detroit makes a slow comeback on resale, other firms are charging ahead. And until incentive discipline on the ground matches the tough talk of sales and marketing execs, these minor gains based on product cadence won’t be enough to keep up with the competition. After all, the three-year resale on a Chevy car is only .10 percent better than a Kia. The work is not over.

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  • Texlovera Texlovera on Jun 07, 2010

    The trends in the incentives (2010 vs. 2009)are interesting: -Hyundai has slashed theirs, but Chrysler's are down considerably too. -Toyota's have increased significantly, while GM's is virtually flat. Plus, I wonder why Mazda has the highest projected residual value?

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    • Daga Daga on Jun 22, 2010

      jpcavanaugh: I've heard that resale is very correlated with % going to rental, and that makes some sense, so a combination of low incentives/discounting (I think they've only go APR deals out now and those have better resale impact than rebates) and low rental fleet = good resale.

  • Jpcavanaugh Jpcavanaugh on Jun 07, 2010

    Interesting that Chrysler had such a good month with incentives only $500 (or about 20%) over industry average in incentives. This is not much over Ford's position. GM is about $1100 (or over 40%) above the industry's incentive average. As stale as Chrysler's current lineup is, and as fresh as GM's is, I would be a bit concerned if I were Ed Whitacre.

  • Dr.Nick What about Infiniti? Some of those cars might be interesting, whereas not much at Nissan interest me other than the Z which is probably big bucks.
  • Dave Holzman My '08 Civic (stick, 159k on the clock) is my favorite car that I've ever owned. If I had to choose between the current Civic and Corolla, I'd test drive 'em (with stick), and see how they felt. But I'd be approaching this choice partial to the Civic. I would not want any sort of automatic transmission, or the turbo engine.
  • Merc190 I would say Civic Si all the way if it still revved to 8300 rpm with no turbo. But nowadays I would pick the Corolla because I think they have a more clear idea on their respective models identity and mission. I also believe Toyota has a higher standard for quality.
  • Dave Holzman I think we're mixing up a few things here. I won't swear to it, but I'd be damned surprised if they were putting fire retardant in the seats of any cars from the '50s, or even the '60s. I can't quite conjure up the new car smell of the '57 Chevy my parents bought on October 17th of that year... but I could do so--vividly--until the last five years or so. I loved that scent, and when I smelled it, I could see the snow on Hollis Street in Cambridge Mass, as one or the other parent got ready to drive me to nursery school, and I could remember staring up at the sky on Christmas Eve, 1957, wondering if I might see Santa Claus flying overhead in his sleigh. No, I don't think the fire retardant on the foam in the seats of 21st (and maybe late 20th) century cars has anything to do with new car smell. (That doesn't mean new car small lacked toxicity--it probably had some.)
  • ToolGuy Is this a website or a podcast with homework? You want me to answer the QOTD before I listen to the podcast? Last time I worked on one of our vehicles (2010 RAV4 2.5L L4) was this past week -- replaced the right front passenger window regulator (only problem turned out to be two loose screws, but went ahead and installed the new part), replaced a bulb in the dash, finally ordered new upper dash finishers (non-OEM) because I cracked one of them ~2 years ago.Looked at the mileage (157K) and scratched my head and proactively ordered plugs, coils, PCV valve, air filter and a spare oil filter, plus a new oil filter housing (for the weirdo cartridge-type filter). Those might go in tomorrow. Is this interesting to you? It ain't that interesting to me. 😉The more intriguing part to me, is I have noticed some 'blowby' (but is it) when the oil filler cap is removed which I don't think was there before. But of course I'm old and forgetful. Is it worth doing a compression test? Leakdown test? Perhaps if a guy were already replacing the plugs...
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