AC Propulsion: The EV OGs Who Aren't Changing The World

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

The LA Times interviews AC Propulsion’s Tom Gage, and sheds some light on what an actual, honest-to-god profitable EV firm looks and thinks like. The short version? Think of the exact opposite of Tesla and you’ll be getting close.

Gage claims to have been a car nut from birth, and after getting an engineering degree from Stanford he worked as a race mechanic before getting an MBA and working for Chrysler for eight years. After working on an abortive plug-in program at Chrysler, Gage left and ended up at AC Propulsion after being impressed by one of its Honda Civic EV conversions.

Besides getting into the EV game way before it was cool, AC Propulsion’s attitude towards its segment is what seems to set it apart from its competitors. AC had sold its own EV version of the Scion xB, and engineered the Tesla Roadster’s forerunner but it’s stayed small and dropped older projects for new opportunities like developing BMW’s MINI E.

In contrast to Tesla’s staggering ambition, Gage knows that AC will not someday become the GM or Toyota of EVs for the simple reason that Toyota or GM will become the Toyota or GM of EVs. “When you see the precision and scale of a huge auto factory, you realize just how hard and expensive it is to mass-produce cars,” he says. “Making parts for 10,000 or 100,000 cars is too much for us. Our goal is to be a participant in the early part of the process and then plan a timely exit.”

AC Propulsion’s deep experience and reasonable ambitions create another unique phenomenon in the rhetoric-over-substance world of alt-energy propulsion: profit. AC’s 35 US employees and 40 Chinese workers assemble about 40 drivetrains per month, each of which sell for about $25k. “We’re very profitable, and that distinguishes us from just about everybody in the business,” Gage says.

And the pragmatism that Gage brings to AC is evident in his daily life. Where the Elon Musks of the world would rather be dead in a ditch than be seen in an un-eco-friendly-appearing vehicle, Gage admits that he often has no choice but to fire up an old internal combustion engine. In addition to a MINI E and an “eBox” (xB EV) he also owns a Toyota and a pair of Volkswagens.

But then AC’s business model isn’t dependent on “change the world” hype. “It’s always been about modifying cars to make them things that people want to drive,” Gage says. Plus, turning a profit never hurts.

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  • Midelectric Midelectric on Sep 01, 2009

    I just wish the got the economies of scale working enough that I could pick up one of their AC-150 units for something around $15k - right now it's about $25k. Also, Tom Gage is a nice guy.

  • Imag Imag on Sep 02, 2009

    Great post; I agree with everything... ...except that Elon does drive a Porsche, turbo, I believe. And my guess is the Elon Musks of the world don't care *quite* so much about driving eco-looking cars that they would otherwise prefer to be "dead in a ditch". I mean, I'm no fan of Elon, or of the Elon Musks Of The World (whoever they are), but it's almost painful to watch that strange assemblage of words struggle to form an insult. Otherwise, go AC.

  • Kjhkjlhkjhkljh kljhjkhjklhkjh A prelude is a bad idea. There is already Acura with all the weird sport trims. This will not make back it's R&D money.
  • Analoggrotto I don't see a red car here, how blazing stupid are you people?
  • Redapple2 Love the wheels
  • Redapple2 Good luck to them. They used to make great cars. 510. 240Z, Sentra SE-R. Maxima. Frontier.
  • Joe65688619 Under Ghosn they went through the same short-term bottom-line thinking that GM did in the 80s/90s, and they have not recovered say, to their heyday in the 50s and 60s in terms of market share and innovation. Poor design decisions (a CVT in their front-wheel drive "4-Door Sports Car", model overlap in a poorly performing segment (they never needed the Altima AND the Maxima...what they needed was one vehicle with different drivetrain, including hybrid, to compete with the Accord/Camry, and decontenting their vehicles: My 2012 QX56 (I know, not a Nissan, but the same holds for the Armada) had power rear windows in the cargo area that could vent, a glass hatch on the back door that could be opened separate from the whole liftgate (in such a tall vehicle, kinda essential if you have it in a garage and want to load the trunk without having to open the garage door to make room for the lift gate), a nice driver's side folding armrest, and a few other quality-of-life details absent from my 2018 QX80. In a competitive market this attention to detai is can be the differentiator that sell cars. Now they are caught in the middle of the market, competing more with Hyundai and Kia and selling discounted vehicles near the same price points, but losing money on them. They invested also invested a lot in niche platforms. The Leaf was one of the first full EVs, but never really evolved. They misjudged the market - luxury EVs are selling, small budget models not so much. Variable compression engines offering little in terms of real-world power or tech, let a lot of complexity that is leading to higher failure rates. Aside from the Z and GT-R (low volume models), not much forced induction (whether your a fan or not, look at what Honda did with the CR-V and Acura RDX - same chassis, slap a turbo on it, make it nicer inside, and now you can sell it as a semi-premium brand with higher markup). That said, I do believe they retain the technical and engineering capability to do far better. About time management realized they need to make smarter investments and understand their markets better.
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