By on November 21, 2008

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55 Comments on “It’s STILL fugly...”


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    carguy622

    That rear end is terrible. Porsche needs to take a page from Mercedes with it’s CLS, VW with the Passat CC, or the deceased Mazda6 hatch.

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    It is inexcusable for Porsche to do such a lousy job with the styling. But that was also the case with the hot latin pepper car.

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    guyincognito

    This is not controversial or risky styling, it is simply, unintentionally, horrible. It looks even worse than I thought it would. It is incoherent and the proportions are the worst of any car I have ever seen. I am convinced, Porsche has lost the plot. I knew it was true when the Cayenne came out but this leaves no doubt. More than anything, I find it very sad.

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    mcs

    Kinda looks like a cross between a 911 and a 40′ prom limo.

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    maniceightball

    This is not controversial or risky styling, it is simply, unintentionally, horrible. It looks even worse than I thought it would. It is incoherent and the proportions are the worst of any car I have ever seen.

    After reading other sites that don’t really talk about how terrible the styling is (and in some cases *cough* AB *cough*, talk about how it’s “growing on [them]”), this bit of paragraph is refreshing. It is precisely how I feel about it — just an intangible mess of unfinished and unresolved lines, a horrendously proportioned ass end, and a boringly mediocre front.

    This design is just full of fail. That front design doesn’t belong on a front-engined car — there’s a reason the front-engined Porches of the 80s were so drastically different than their back-heavy brethren.

    And that air vent on the side is just awkward and looks contrived.

    I’m sure it’s going to drive brilliantly, but I would be embarrassed to be seen anywhere near this aesthetic abomination. I’d rather drive an Aztek. At least that had some utility to it (just).

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    Detroit-Iron

    Ow, my freakin’ eyes

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    Detroit-Iron

    If they had guts they would have made a mid-engine 4 door. It couldn’t possibly look worse.

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    Have disliked this car since I first saw the concept — this is truly FUGLY. Panamera – The Hunchback of Zuffenhausen.

    Maybe McLaren will do a two seater F1, just to keep things balanced?

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    red5

    It will sell in droves to the Porsche diehards, and dentists with 997s living out the Le Mans dream in a family sedan. However, if you had to choose between this and the Aston the only reason to choose the Porsche is that it will start every morning. Than again, so with the Merc and the BMW.

    Sorry Porsche, this is just lazy design with the attempt at keeping a “family” theme. You missed the mark, you know it, and you’ll still sell them by the droves.

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    I have yet to see anyone come out and say they like this car. I’m one of the ones that it could be “growing on” but I’m waiting to see that rear-end first.

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    Thinx

    As FUGLY as it looks there, it will look an order of magnitude worse when you see it being driven by the kind of prick who will buy this abomination because it is a “Porsh-uh”.

    I cannot imagine any enthusiast with a modicum of taste tolerating this in his garage. It looks like Porsche wanted to make it look “Porsche-y” more than they wanted it to look good.

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    solbeam

    I dont think it will have “The Hunchback of Notre Dame” when it gets released officially.

    I think it will look more like this:
    http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atpanameraleak450opmf6.jpg
    (quick and dirty photoshop)

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    maniceightball

    I can’t re-iterate enough just how eye-meltingly hideous this is. I feel like my design sensibilities have been violated in ways too profane for words.

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    Redbarchetta

    WHY? So ugly and yet so expensive for all that ugly.

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    Usta Bee

    That front fender vent…..either they stole it off a Corvette, or took it off the rear fender of a Mustang and flipped it around.

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    Jeff Niman

    Nuts to all of you- I like it. The only thing I’d prefer to see is the removal of the seam moving upward from the rear tire.

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    porschespeed

    There is that tiny part of me that wants to believe that this is merely the Motorrad Maltese Falcon. This is also the part of me that believes in the Easter Bunny, responsible management at GM, and honest politicians.

    The only thing sadder (to me anywho) than the fact that it is probably not a maguffin, is that it definately will be detuned so as not to remind the uber-Beetle that its wardrobe is in absentia.

    We coulda had a 928 quattroporte, but noooooo.

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    Cicero

    It’s one thing to maintain identifiable design cues to create a family resemblance throughout your product line. The European car companies usually excel at this. It’s an entirely different matter to slavishly graft the design of your flagship — in this case, the 911 — onto a completely different class of vehicle, totally ignoring differences in proportion and function. From the photos I’ve seen, that’s what Porsche has done with the Panamera.

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    Dr Lemming

    I never thought I’d say that the 1965-66 AMC Marlin looked better than a similarly proportioned fastback.

    How did that Porsche ever see the light of day? Oh. German arrogance. Those high profit margins convinced top brass that they could conquer the world.

    Lotsa luck, guys.

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    golf4me

    I could see that it had to look like this because it was mid-engined or something, but damn, there is no such excuse. I like Porsches in general (except the Cayenne), but this is really, really bad. The worst part is that it probably cost a lot of money to develop that could have been used to develop a nice, true entry-level sports car. There are certain things better left to others, and this is one of them. Jeez, don’t they almost own VW, and therefore, Audi? Let THEM make sedans, they are better at it. I’m sure all the fan-mags will say things like “sure it’s ugly, but it drives great” or some other rationalization…

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    MarkT

    I dunno, I kind of like it, like a cross between a Saab 900 and a…it cost how much??!?

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    thetopdog

    Disgusting. Although the humpback style seems to appeal to everybody on the 911, it has never looked good to me. This car is a disgrace

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    seanx37

    Is this really an appropriate car to introduce here at the start of Great Depression 2? I mean , wow.

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    Nickatnyt

    This has to be Porsche’s version of ‘The Emperor’s new clothes’. Everyone and their dog at corporate knows it’s ugly, hideous and laughable, but no one has the guts to say it out loud lest their head be blown to pieces by the laser-eyed stare of Wiedeking.

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    akitadog

    It fails precisely because someone thought that all they’d have to do is go for the stretched 911 look and all would be well. There’s that whole “theory v practice” thing again.

    If there was more rake to the back, it would look worlds better (by following the window line down to the rear instead of straightening it out a bit before curving), but then the back seat headroom would be laughable and the car’s purpose would be defeated. However, I would prefer that they went all the way and just made it a wagon (keep the top straight out to about the rearmost seam on the wheelwell, then a sharper angle down). Either choice would make it look tons better, but making it a wagon would make it functional as well as good looking.

    Maybe Andrei could try photochopping those two ideas? And make sure Porsche sees them!

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    James2

    Money taste. Porsche will do just fine while the rest of us go blind. ::vomits::

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    maniceightball

    So here’s what I don’t understand — why on earth would you pay so much for this car when you can get an M5? or any of AMG’s brilliantly insane cars? or the Rapide?

    There are just so many other options out there for 4-door high-performance precision sports cars, because this thing sure as hell ain’t going to sell on its looks, as I’ve beaten to death above. It does bear repeating that this is uglier than a baboon’s genetalia.

    I just don’t understand, and this upsets me.

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    hal

    “fugly”? “disgrace”? all this indignation over a design few people have seen in the flesh? at least wait till you have seen the thing on the road before you all get your knickers in a twist.
    there is nothing more tiresome than the kneejerk anti-bangle anti-innovation “it’s a new design I hate it” mentality.
    http://www.ausmotive.com/2008/10/16/porsche-panamera-makes-korea-move.html

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    amac

    FLOP!

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    Phil Ressler

    Nineties Camaro front overhang. Humpy, ungraceful proportions. Lazy two door styling inflated to four-door purpose. I never expected this car to look desirable but this is worse than feared. So much for brand mastery. However, the poseurs who make up most of Porsche’s customer base will give this misshapen lump the first flush of success for its badge alone. I guess we deserve the cars we get.

    Phil

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    maniceightball

    kneejerk anti-bangle anti-innovation “it’s a new design I hate it” mentality

    What, pray tell, is new, innovative, or even Bangle-esque about it?

    The back, I suppose, might be considered “new,” but it just looks bad. It flat out looks unattractive. The front is grafted off of their existing (and, I’d argue, stale) ass-engined coupes, so there’s nothing new there.

    Innovative? Because they made this weird hybrid of a station wagon/coupe? What exactly is innovative about this car?

    And I think most enthusiasts recognize that Chris Bangle, despite his ostentatious and out-there designs, created a design language and style set that revolutionized the way designers approached new cars. I don’t see any of that here…

    All I see is Porsche having the audacity to push an over-priced sports sedan that attempts to mitigate two diametrically opposed goals — the execution is so cynical and contrived, and that’s what people are raving against. It’s like they didn’t even try. It’s almost like they wanted to see how many suckers would pay for sheetmetal plastered with their logo on it, despite how attrocious it looked.

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    Dr. No

    Looks a bit PT-Cruiserish w/Porsche quality. It’s terrible, of course.

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    BuzzDog

    I hate how Porsche started making SUV’s, and now sedans. Ruined my ability to make a really bad joke when I used to visit the parts counter at my local dealer (which, around 1990, was WAY too often): “Hey, Mike…you still have that new guy looking for a rear door handle for my ’75?”

    I know, I know…I should abandon all dreams of stand-up comedy and keep my day job…

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    heaven_on_mars

    It looks like the kind of thing some after tuner shop would do as a PR stunt. The dash is also a mess. Since Porsche has a big stake in VW, why not leave the sedans and SUVs to Audi and VW. Porsche use to be the sports car experts. Hmmm, maybe that is why they are making such a mess with the sedan. Stick to the two door sports cars Porsche.

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    thetopdog

    There is nothing more ridiculously arrogant than suggesting that people can’t appreciate an (almost universally accepted as) ugly design because it’s too ‘innovative’ or ‘they don’t get it’. “Innovation” for innovation’s sake is not something to aspire to. There are plenty of modified Civics with huge wings and insane bodykits that are ‘innovative’ but that does not make them ugly.

    And who needs to see this thing in the flesh? It is pretty easy to tell what it’s going to look like, unless the car will holographically change the way it looks depending on the angle, I think we’ve all got a pretty good idea of how things thing is going to look. I’ve never met Rosie O’Donnell in person but I think it’s safe to say she’s not attractive!

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    Gforce

    Were they not trying out a new “styling language” with this, given the number of times they have reproduced the Beetle. JC hammered Porsche at every opprtunity for being another beetle, Porsche maybe trying to molt their designs out of that.

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    Hank

    Gotta love that Ford Focus action on the front fender.

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    CaliCarGuy

    soooo we waited all this time. looking at spy shots and speculating and wat not to finally see that all it is is a 4 door 911 wit an ugly ass ass? lame. but some dumb badge whore will buy it jus because its a porsche. and me living in southern cali ill probably see 10 of em on the freeway on my way to LA wen they come out

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    DearS

    I just hope its the best handling 4-door every created. Then I’ll try to figure out why form and function don’t amount to beauty, or maybe I’ll grow to see something I cannot see. I really just wanna know where form ends and function begins, if its discernible that is. Also I think the CLS is ugly from most angles and the Passat CC looks like a waste of time.

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    golf4me

    “There is nothing more ridiculously arrogant than suggesting that people can’t appreciate an (almost universally accepted as) ugly design because it’s too ‘innovative’ or ‘they don’t get it’. “Innovation” for innovation’s sake is not something to aspire to. There are plenty of modified Civics with huge wings and insane bodykits that are ‘innovative’ but that does not make them ugly.”

    — Ummm, yes, it does.

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    Usta Bee,

    That fender vent looks like it was stolen from the Ford Focus. Not a good thing…

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    carguy

    If they extended the roofline at the rear end of the c-pillar a little further they would have ha a wagon – which probably would have been a better idea than this.

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    Morea

    When you are done looking at that photo type “Aston Martin Rapide” or “Maserati Quattroporte” into the Google image search engine. You’ll feel a lot better.

  • avatar
    Mark MacInnis

    “911- What is your emergency?”

    “Hello, someone driving a Kia Rio Cinco just rear-ended my Porsche…..our cars are now fused together.”

    RF…..thanks for taking our minds off, for a few blissful seconds, anyway….the current mess.

  • avatar

    Ladies and gentleman I
    give you the four door
    Crossfire.

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    If a 911 mated with a M-B CLS class car …

    Rag all you want, they will sell very well to the 60 plus year old who wants to arrive in style at the Golf Course.

    Porsche…either an unreliable Cayman/Boxster or a WTF Sport Futility or 4 door sedan.

    At least in Italian, Quattroporte sounds sexy.

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    Ach mein Gott! So it isn’t Porsche’s best design, nor is it Porsche’s fastest vehicle, but it will have be successful. Which is a shame because it is simply heinous. Aesthetics do matter, Mr. Piech, they really do. Just look at Aston Martin, they’ll sell the Rapide on looks alone. In a vehicle of this class, there are more people who care how they look than care how they drive.

    Porsche should probably invest in some designers instead of spending all their money on VW shares and on engineers who only want to make things go faster around the ‘ring . Porsche is fantastically profitable and for that it should be applauded, especially in the current economic climate. But it has to stop riding its badge prestige. Would anyone buy this if had any other badge on it? I think not.

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    monkeydust

    It looks like a strippo 2 wheel drive Cayenne.

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    redrum

    Um…it actually looks okay to me. I’m not a big fan of the classic Porsche coupe, and this is just an extension of that design. Yeah, it’s a bit ungainly, but at least it’s not an SUV.

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    dolo54

    They should’ve left the camouflage on. This limo conversion actually looks better: http://image53.webshots.com/153/4/56/30/2649456300053204960eNhIWf_fs.jpg

  • avatar
    thetopdog

    golf4me :

    I really screwed that up, I meant to say “that does not make them not ugly”

  • avatar
    Richard Chen

    The latest pictures have a big “Porsche” logo above the “Panamera” on the backside, in case you needed help figuring it out.

    Anyone remember the stillborn 989? That was better take on a Porsche FR 4-door, although there probably wasn’t much headroom in the back.

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    Mike658

    I have to say I like it.

  • avatar
    jkross22

    I don’t understand how, when Porsche has access to those that penned the Audi A8 that they would allow this thing to be released.

  • avatar
    jkross22

    I don’t understand how, when Porsche has access to those that penned the Audi A8 that they would allow this thing to be released.

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