Housekeeping: Happy Fourth of July

Here's a political question: Why don't we celebrate on July 2? Or August 2? How about September 3? (Which is easier - to decide something, to say something, or to make something happen?)

And speaking of Things Which Go Boom... Weapons need Ammunition -- always have, always will. Seems obvious, but everyone always forgets it, which invariably becomes a problem. Here's a current perspective (from some individuals who still bow down to the Queen): https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/return-industrial-warfare

When's the last time you (anyone) read this document? https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript "...all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved..." Well, so much for NATO. :-)

@ToolGuy NATO was created following WW II as an alliance of free Western European countries to protect themselves from the rise of another dictatorial leader like Hitler, Mussolini, and even a Communist leader like Stalin. Dissolve NATO and most likely you would have Putin take over Western Europe. Democratic countries and freedom are in the best interests of the United States. As a descent of Patriots who fought the British in the American Revolution I don't bow down to royalty. I respect Britain as an ally but the Queen is theirs not ours. Happy July 4!

Of course you didn't see it as political Jeff...it was your sort of politics. Perhaps this is why you don't call out those on the other side...you just don't see them.

@Art Vandelay--I don't go on a car site and deliberately spark a political debate. "Happy Fourth. As long as you’re male" Its a stretch to say that is a political remark. I would say it is dumb but I cannot see how that remark is political. Only implication I see is either a slight at gays or implying that July 4th is a sexist holiday neither of which I agree with but it is a real stretch to interpret the above remark as political. EBFlex calling President Biden "Xiden" is political basically implying our President is a Communist or supporter of China. Maybe EB doesn't know how to spell and confuses X for B. As for politics true I am not a Proud Boy, Oath Keepers, Klux Klanner, and Neo Natz so in that respect I am not a Trump supporter more of a Reagan Republican which no longer exist so in the eyes of those Trump supporters I would be a liberal but then I don't care what a group that stormed the Capitol on Jan 6, 2021 thinks. Don't really want to get political on this site but there is a big difference in using "Xiden" over and over again as a derogatory name for Biden than "As long as you are male." But then again David M might be correct as to EB.

@Jeff S If you don't see how in light of the events of the past week that is clearly political it is because you don't want to. So what exactly do you think Skye is referring too? And for.someone that doesn't want to get political on this site, you sure.do get political a lot on this site

@Art--You tell me what Skye is referring to because I don't see what the hidden meaning is? I don't bring up politics but EBFlex does and you are now. I come on this site for cars not politics but apparently EB has little interest in cars but much interest in political propaganda. You explain to me what EB means by "Xiden" since you know EB and he is your buddy. Happy July 4 and try to remember what the true meaning of this date is.

@Art Vandelay Yeah those guys that wrote the Declaration would have never had political discussions online. And yeah, I'm sure he absolutely wasn't getting a dig in about Roe vs. Wade. And you are full of it. You are always jumping into politics on here. If you don't start it but respond 47 times calling folks "magats" and whatever, you don't get to take the high road chump. But do tell, what do you think he was referring to?

@Art--You need to chill out. You still haven't told me what Skye'a comment is referring to so I assume you don't know and are looking for an argument. I cannot see any political interpretation to his nonsensical comment and it is not because I don't want to and would like to know. Only thing I can see is the reversal of Rowe vs Wade and I don't have a dog in that fight so it doesn't mean anything to me. Just chill out and enjoy the 4th.

@Art Vandelay “I don’t bring up politics but EBFlex does and you are now. I come on this site for cars not politics but apparently EB has little interest in cars but much interest in political propaganda.” I’m trying to figure out if you lying and being this delusional is just a bit to put us on or if you actually believe what you say. You *rarely* mention automobiles. Your posts are nothing but political comments and personal attacks. On top of that, you attempt to rewrite history (despite us being able to just simply scroll up and verify your lie) by saying things like (EB starts political discussions). You realize I was the THIRD person to comment on this thread. You realize I was responding to ToolGuy’s post about the cost of a BBQ skyrocketing this year right? So you can continue to blatantly lie and say that I start everything (I don’t) and that you never talk about anything political (you do all the time) but everyone sees you for what you are. As for my “Xiden” comment, it’s very simple and you know very well what I mean by it. But, since you need your hand held, I’ll break it down for you: Biden is not tough on China. He does more to help China (which, I think we can all agree is an evil l, evil country) than he does the US. The president of China (the country that released Covid into the world) is named Xi Jinping. Now here is where it gets complicated so use your finger to follow along. The second letter in ‘Biden’ is ‘i’. The second letter in ‘Xi’ is ‘i’. See how they are the same? It’s the same letter ‘i’. So by changing the ‘B’ in ‘Biden’ to an ‘X’, I can have the full first name of the president of China (Xi) built right in to the majority of Biden’s name thus creating a fun way to show that Biden is more presidential to China than out own country. He’s working for and with China, helping them, than he is for us. He should be uniting this country and working with every single Luther country on the planet to punish China for releasing Covid on the world. But no, he treats them with kid gloves. Because he’s afraid of China. So, Xiden it is and Xiden it will stay. Joey R does not deserve the respect to have his full, unmolested name used after what he’s done to this country. Now, anything else I need to break down for you kiddo?

@Jeff S “ Only implication I see is either a slight at gays” Ah yes. There are no gay males. You’re so smart Jeffy!

@EB Flex??????

@Art Vandelay Go back and read slowly Jeff. I literally said it in the above post. Thanks for worrying about what I need to do though, but I'm good. And you not bringing up politics doesn't seem to keep you from diving in anytime someone else brings it up. You are as bad as anyone else. Of course I am an @$$hole. I own it. You are an @$$hole.that has yet to come.out.of the closet.