QOTD: Recalling the Ignorance of Youth?

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems

Despite what the media tells us, kids have a lot of dumb ideas. That said, plenty of youngins possess a wit and canniness that defies their years, sometimes — perhaps even often — making them better company than obnoxious know-it-alls in their 20s.

I used to babysit a coworker’s son by taking him to the bar, so these sentiments come from experience.

Thinking back to one’s own childhood, it’s often embarrassing to recall the things we believed at the time; things that the march of time revealed to be untrue. In regard to the automotive realm, what beliefs did a younger you hold as an unshakable truth?

This writer’s elementary school years saw a Ferrari Testarossa and Ford Mustang GT adorn the walls of his bedroom; in the corner sat a pile of Collectible Automobile magazines dating back to the first issue. It was at a very young age that I fell in love with overstuffed land yachts…

But it was because of this fixation on old cars that, at a single-digit age, I was more concerned with domestic features that had already fallen by the wayside a decade-plus earlier than anything new coming out of Japan. Like, for example, the one feature that always sends a thrill up my leg: Hardtops. Pillarless hardtops.

Early on, however, I had somehow come to believe that the definition of a hardtop had to do with the distance from the A-pillar to the B-pillar in relation to the distance from the B-pillar to the C-pillar, at least when viewing the car with windows up. Some pillarless coupes and sedans looked fairly pillar-ly with glass up. Obviously, this was dumb. Pillarless means no B-pillar. Simple as that, but it took awhile for the confusion to end.

I also believed at the time that personal luxury coupes with canvas faux-cabriolet roofs — not just your run-of-the-mill vinyl landau-style roof — were actual convertibles. These tops were most commonly seen on the Lincoln Continental Mk. VI and Chrysler Cordoba. Good job, Detroit — you fooled a kid. I eventually learned why no owner seemed to want the wind in what was left of their hair.

In hindsight, it’s amusing to think of the things we once believed. What were you once convinced of?

[Image: © 2017 Forest Casey/TTAC]

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  • Tankinbeans Tankinbeans on Nov 19, 2019

    I believed that anything larger than the most compact vehicle required at least a V6 in order to move about. Imagine my surprise when I get older and get my first midsizer, a 2003 Accord, with a 4 cylinder engine. I also never knew what my father meant when he discussed "large" and "small" fours. Anything German was automatically a premium car, including VW. Turbocharged cars were for yabbos. Only women drove automatics and men had to know how to drive a 5 speed. (I was 7 and had only ever seen my dad driving a manual and my mom driving an automatic. I'm fully aware this is sexist and do not claim this as a current belief.)

  • Pwrwrench Pwrwrench on Nov 26, 2019

    Some more on the VW Typ IV. They did not do well in SoCal. As mentioned by others, most were automatic. The 411 had a torque convertor seal that could not survive the heat of summer. Later a seal made of high heat tolerant material became available, but not before many 411s had 3 or more replacements. Yes 4 speeds were available, even in Calif, but few bought them. Most of the Typ 4s here had AC installed. With the marginal cooling system the extra load of AC meant shorter engine life. The engines suffered the same problem as the 914s and VW vans. The O-rings failed and leaked. It was at least 5 years before a Viton O-ring arrived. As Arthur mentioned the brakes had trouble with quick wear, fading, pulsation, and squeaking. Most of that was fixed with the 412 which got thicker discs and pads and larger calipers. The improvements were too late as VW wanted to move to the liquid cooled front drive cars. Big mistake as it turned out. The 412 also had the engine enlarged to 1800cc over 1700 and an improved FI system. The car should have had the 2.0 as used in the VW van about the same time. However the cooling system was barely adequate for the 17-1800. When I had a Van with the 2.0 air cooled motor, I had to install an extra oil cooler and run synthetic oil to keep the rings from sticking in the piston grooves.

  • W Conrad I'm not afraid of them, but they aren't needed for everyone or everywhere. Long haul and highway driving sure, but in the city, nope.
  • Jalop1991 In a manner similar to PHEV being the correct answer, I declare RPVs to be the correct answer here.We're doing it with certain aircraft; why not with cars on the ground, using hardware and tools like Telsa's "FSD" or GM's "SuperCruise" as the base?Take the local Uber driver out of the car, and put him in a professional centralized environment from where he drives me around. The system and the individual car can have awareness as well as gates, but he's responsible for the driving.Put the tech into my car, and let me buy it as needed. I need someone else to drive me home; hit the button and voila, I've hired a driver for the moment. I don't want to drive 11 hours to my vacation spot; hire the remote pilot for that. When I get there, I have my car and he's still at his normal location, piloting cars for other people.The system would allow for driver rest period, like what's required for truckers, so I might end up with multiple people driving me to the coast. I don't care. And they don't have to be physically with me, therefore they can be way cheaper.Charge taxi-type per-mile rates. For long drives, offer per-trip rates. Offer subscriptions, including miles/hours. Whatever.(And for grins, dress the remote pilots all as Johnnie.)Start this out with big rigs. Take the trucker away from the long haul driving, and let him be there for emergencies and the short haul parts of the trip.And in a manner similar to PHEVs being discredited, I fully expect to be razzed for this brilliant idea (not unlike how Alan Kay wasn't recognized until many many years later for his Dynabook vision).
  • B-BodyBuick84 Not afraid of AV's as I highly doubt they will ever be %100 viable for our roads. Stop-and-go downtown city or rush hour highway traffic? I can see that, but otherwise there's simply too many variables. Bad weather conditions, faded road lines or markings, reflective surfaces with glare, etc. There's also the issue of cultural norms. About a decade ago there was actually an online test called 'The Morality Machine' one could do online where you were in control of an AV and choose what action to take when a crash was inevitable. I think something like 2.5 million people across the world participated? For example, do you hit and most likely kill the elderly couple strolling across the crosswalk or crash the vehicle into a cement barrier and almost certainly cause the death of the vehicle occupants? What if it's a parent and child? In N. America 98% of people choose to hit the elderly couple and save themselves while in Asia, the exact opposite happened where 98% choose to hit the parent and child. Why? Cultural differences. Asia puts a lot of emphasis on respecting their elderly while N. America has a culture of 'save/ protect the children'. Are these AV's going to respect that culture? Is a VW Jetta or Buick Envision AV going to have different programming depending on whether it's sold in Canada or Taiwan? how's that going to effect legislation and legal battles when a crash inevitibly does happen? These are the true barriers to mass AV adoption, and in the 10 years since that test came out, there has been zero answers or progress on this matter. So no, I'm not afraid of AV's simply because with the exception of a few specific situations, most avenues are going to prove to be a dead-end for automakers.
  • Mike Bradley Autonomous cars were developed in Silicon Valley. For new products there, the standard business plan is to put a barely-functioning product on the market right away and wait for the early-adopter customers to find the flaws. That's exactly what's happened. Detroit's plan is pretty much the opposite, but Detroit isn't developing this product. That's why dealers, for instance, haven't been trained in the cars.
  • Dartman https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-fighter-jets-air-force-6a1100c96a73ca9b7f41cbd6a2753fdaAutonomous/Ai is here now. The question is implementation and acceptance.
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