Second From the Top: Ford Expedition King Ranch Pricing Revealed

I didn't have any complaints about the Expeditions we rented, except that they were slow from a dead stop until the boost kicked in at higher rpm, particularly in mountain country. OTOH, there was my wife's 2016 Sequoia, a thirsty beast if there ever was one. But you knew exactly where you stood if you goosed that 5.7L V8. No two ways about it, given the choice, I'd rather have a V8. Alas, we no longer have that choice. Another freedom taken away from us.

@highdesertcat You can still buy a Sequoia. Not many do because it is a bit ancient and as you said, you know where you stand when you mash the go pedal. Plus you can get the 6.2 in the GM as mentioned. Not sure how anyone's freedom is being taken here.

@Art Vandelay The drift of the conversation mentioned that the only engine available was the V6-T. Freedom taken away includes the trend toward smaller engines for those buyers who want a big V8, because they can. They no longer can, in many cases like with the Expedition. And it would not surprise me if Toyota drops the 5.7L in favor of the 4.6L in the Tundra. Things are changing in the US auto market. Cars and trucks are being sissyfied at an alarming rate with smaller engines, lighter bodies, and cheaper interiors. Maybe it is time for those who can to step up to 3/4-ton 4dr pickup trucks as their daily drivers. It makes other drivers on the road see one of those gargantuan pickup trucks coming toward them, for them to get out of their way. Size matters. In bodies and engines.

@highdesertcat My next vehicle will most likely be a 3/4 truck, I can’t get any of the basic amenities that should be expected when your spending $40k+ almost anywhere else. It’s sad, I have little need for a 3/4 truck but I have been left with no options.

@highdesertcat One of my Elks brethren bought a Dark Blue F250 Platinum Diesel 4dr 4X4 back in January of this year, electric fold-away side steps and all. No need for it that he couldn't do with a halfton but like you he felt that, "I have been left with no options." And hey, he's 75 years old. He can buy pretty much whatever the fock he wants. And.... he got beaucoup money for his 2014 F150 5.0L XLT 4dr 2WD trade in. Goes to show, trucks hold their value these days. Pay more up front but get more back at trade-in. He and I go to lunch maybe once a week and take his truck. Nice truck. The only thing I don't like is the Black Leather interior. Man, it gets hot sitting in the desert sun!

@highdesertcat But Ford just announced a 7.3 gasser for the 3/4 ton and up pickups. Ford buyers have embraced the turbo truck motors. I'd argue this is added freedom. Until the expedition folks like me that prefer the turbos had no choice. Now I do. If you are a give me a V8 or give me death type you probably want the GM 6.2 anyway. This is the top offering in the F150 line motor wise. It outperforms the 5.0 pretty much all around. People buy the 5.0 for subjective reasons (sound, V8 or die, etc). How many people here complaining were going to put up money for one if they came with the 5.0, or heck, the new 7.3 for that matter. I am guessing I can count them on no fingers. For all the Ford hate, it's hard to knock their truck marketing folks.

@highdesertcat "he’s 75 years old" Lincoln just about went away catering to this crowd

@highdesertcat So your buddy bought a turbocharged diesel that needs DEF and is known for being maintenance-intensive because he didn't want a turbocharged gasser that's accumulated a considerably better reliability record? Not to mention that same 5.0 is still an option in the half-ton trucks. Takes all kinds, I guess.

@highdesertcat It's far more than just V8 "sounds", manly or otherwise. Keep us posted though, except there's still not better engine so far, all things considered. Icing upon icing on the cake. And the V8 is cheaper too??

@dal90210- Just HOW LONG do you want your new $65 or $70K four cylinder turbo or 6-cylinder direct-injection truck to last ? (If you need more than 5 years, you should get a V-8 Chevy or Dod...er...Ram pickup.) P.S.- GM Deathwatch Ford Deathwatch

@TheDumbGuy This talking point again? The 3.5 EcoBoost has proven a good deal more reliable than the Gen V small-block in practice. (Although the Gen V seems to be getting better after its initial problems.)

@dal20402 Truth.

@highdesertcat dal20402, actually, it does take all kinds. I don't think that he set out to buy a TurboDiesel but that's what he ended up with. Maybe the brawny, masculine features rang his bell. Maybe he was tired of driving an everyman's Ford pickup truck as his daily driver. Maybe he wanted something unique, different, a stand-out. This one sure is. To be sure, this is not his only vehicle. His wife drives an Enclave CXL because that is what caught her eye - the styling. She loves it. For traveling he and his wife have a Marathon Motor Coach. The Enclave is pulled behind the Marathon in an enclosed custom built Haulmark ramp trailer. Pretty slick. And he's got a 1979 Mercedes-Benz 280S he brought back from Germany (stick shift no less). Still runs good after all these years. The Inline-6 smokes a little but it'll get him wherever he's going. Using 20W-50 Castrol these days. And then there is his Big Block Corvette, I believe it is a 1973. And his 1982 BMW 320 2dr. They all run. He has gotten generous offers from strangers to buy these classics, but he's not parting with them until he dies. Some men collect guns. Others collect cars. The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

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