CODE BROWN! Help Review Tesla's Model S P85D

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Park Anywhere, this is a Code BROWN!!!

An autojourno told me that getting a Tesla Model S P85D for evaluation is tough, even without a Death Watch series hanging over their head. Yet Tesla’s boss went on 60 minutes admitting his concerns during Christmas 2008, concerns that paralleled ours. No matter, Death Watches are TTAC’s past. Meet our “Code Brown” instead.

And stick around: because you, dear reader, shall help us review it.

Spend a few minutes in a freshly delivered P85D for sensory overload: one cannot process all the new and radical in one sitting.

To wit, the gigantic screen’s demand for a vehicle name: there’s only one name for perhaps the last brown Tesla ever made, ordered with this speedy powertrain.

One can rightly argue the P85D’s holeshot is diaper worthy.

And while “insane mode” is a big part of the story, it’s kinda not. Code Brown possesses more than a single man could road test over the course of a week.

Hence the clarion call for reader feedback, before testing begins. Post your questions, concerns, insights, etc for TTAC’s upcoming review. I’ll read them, make notes and citations, using it as a foundation for my time with this Tesla Model S P85D.

Off to you, Best and Brightest.

(Special thanks to my brother for giving me his new daily driver for the upcoming review. No Public Relations Butts were hurt in TTAC’s acquisition of Code Brown.)

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  • Lurker_n Lurker_n on Feb 18, 2015

    I'm interested in how well the AWD system works with 2 motors and I assume 2 diffs. i.e. go find something slippery and have fun. Oh and I'll assume (rather than googling it) the 2nd motor upfront reduces the turning radius, could you try parallel parking code brown outside a hospital. (pic please)

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    • Lurker_n Lurker_n on Feb 18, 2015

      @WEGIV If you can find a big enough water puddle on the highway, try driving over it with just one side. It'd be interesting to know if the car will pull you towards the puddle. (bonus point if you can repeat the test using your daily driver and compare the feel)

  • Oakes Oakes on Feb 28, 2015

    I test drove a red P85D two weeks ago. It was thrilling. The raw acceleration is simply amazing. But this isn't what I liked best in this car. No one has yet mentioned the cruise control. You can set how many car lengths you want empty in front of you, set the top speed, then take your foot off the pedal. Both pedals. That's right, this sucker senses anything in front of you and brakes automatically to keep the set distance you dialed in. Are you reading the map in a neighborhood when some small child darts in front of your car? Guess what, he's ok. You won't have nightmares the rest of your life. It's amazing. It will sense even dogs and cats. Are you merging and glancing the wrong direction when some a-hole stops short right in front of you? No accident, no wasted time, no jacked up insurance rates, no whiplash. Now that raw acceleration? It gave me mild whiplash. I'm not even kidding. Holy mokes!! There's no differential. Both motors are mounted directly to their axles. Difference between city and highway 'EPA'? Negligible due to really good regen of battery when braking. Now the regen feature makes it slow hard when you take your foot off the pedal, and that takes some getting used to. you don't ease off as fast as with a gas car, you kind of slowly ease off otherwise it is uncomfortably hard slowing down. For 'cash purchase' with the green tax credit (both fed and state in my home state) the maxed out version was 120k approx. whoever said 3500$ extra for sick sick sumptuous hug your body racing Recaro seats isn't something many will want to spring for? Really? It already costs 120k and you won't pay 3.5k for awesome seats? That's nuts man. If you can afford this car you can afford the top line maxed out version. SO MUCH ROOM. Don't like the interior? Ok that's personal obviously. And personally I think it's really well designed and comfortable and roomy and techy-cool and with the carbon fiber dash kinda hawt. Think that big screen is distracting? Set the cruise control and don't sweat it. It will warn you if you're drifting laterally into another lane too. Yeah. THIS CAR IS PROBABLY THE SAFEST CAR ON THE ROAD TODAY. I'm waiting for the model X because I have a jacked up back and I like the few extra inches height it will offer. Easier to get into and out of plus a few added inches ground clearance. All that on the very same chassis as the P85D. Sick. Also I have two years to go on my current lease so there's that too. Honda Pilot if you want to know. Too all you Tesla haters - grow the f*** up already. Whether you believe in green or not this is a sick car. Try one yourself if you don't believe me. Super easy to set up test drive and the guy I went with was super knowledgeable and nice. Not pushy or arrogant at all. Maintenance costs? Tires and brake pads. That's all. Tesla plans to saturate America with super charger stations and why hasn't anyone mentioned that Teslas charge for free at all Tesla stations? For the life of the car. Yup. Free gas for life. 15 min gets you I think 200 miles. Take a piss, have a drink, check your emails. Hey, call your mom. Seriously, call her, she misses you and you wouldn't be driving this awesome car if it weren't for her! Cheers and happy motoring mi amigos.

  • W Conrad I'm not afraid of them, but they aren't needed for everyone or everywhere. Long haul and highway driving sure, but in the city, nope.
  • Jalop1991 In a manner similar to PHEV being the correct answer, I declare RPVs to be the correct answer here.We're doing it with certain aircraft; why not with cars on the ground, using hardware and tools like Telsa's "FSD" or GM's "SuperCruise" as the base?Take the local Uber driver out of the car, and put him in a professional centralized environment from where he drives me around. The system and the individual car can have awareness as well as gates, but he's responsible for the driving.Put the tech into my car, and let me buy it as needed. I need someone else to drive me home; hit the button and voila, I've hired a driver for the moment. I don't want to drive 11 hours to my vacation spot; hire the remote pilot for that. When I get there, I have my car and he's still at his normal location, piloting cars for other people.The system would allow for driver rest period, like what's required for truckers, so I might end up with multiple people driving me to the coast. I don't care. And they don't have to be physically with me, therefore they can be way cheaper.Charge taxi-type per-mile rates. For long drives, offer per-trip rates. Offer subscriptions, including miles/hours. Whatever.(And for grins, dress the remote pilots all as Johnnie.)Start this out with big rigs. Take the trucker away from the long haul driving, and let him be there for emergencies and the short haul parts of the trip.And in a manner similar to PHEVs being discredited, I fully expect to be razzed for this brilliant idea (not unlike how Alan Kay wasn't recognized until many many years later for his Dynabook vision).
  • B-BodyBuick84 Not afraid of AV's as I highly doubt they will ever be %100 viable for our roads. Stop-and-go downtown city or rush hour highway traffic? I can see that, but otherwise there's simply too many variables. Bad weather conditions, faded road lines or markings, reflective surfaces with glare, etc. There's also the issue of cultural norms. About a decade ago there was actually an online test called 'The Morality Machine' one could do online where you were in control of an AV and choose what action to take when a crash was inevitable. I think something like 2.5 million people across the world participated? For example, do you hit and most likely kill the elderly couple strolling across the crosswalk or crash the vehicle into a cement barrier and almost certainly cause the death of the vehicle occupants? What if it's a parent and child? In N. America 98% of people choose to hit the elderly couple and save themselves while in Asia, the exact opposite happened where 98% choose to hit the parent and child. Why? Cultural differences. Asia puts a lot of emphasis on respecting their elderly while N. America has a culture of 'save/ protect the children'. Are these AV's going to respect that culture? Is a VW Jetta or Buick Envision AV going to have different programming depending on whether it's sold in Canada or Taiwan? how's that going to effect legislation and legal battles when a crash inevitibly does happen? These are the true barriers to mass AV adoption, and in the 10 years since that test came out, there has been zero answers or progress on this matter. So no, I'm not afraid of AV's simply because with the exception of a few specific situations, most avenues are going to prove to be a dead-end for automakers.
  • Mike Bradley Autonomous cars were developed in Silicon Valley. For new products there, the standard business plan is to put a barely-functioning product on the market right away and wait for the early-adopter customers to find the flaws. That's exactly what's happened. Detroit's plan is pretty much the opposite, but Detroit isn't developing this product. That's why dealers, for instance, haven't been trained in the cars.
  • Dartman https://apnews.com/article/artificial-intelligence-fighter-jets-air-force-6a1100c96a73ca9b7f41cbd6a2753fdaAutonomous/Ai is here now. The question is implementation and acceptance.
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