Piston Slap: My Mistress' Eyes Are Nothing Like the Sun Edition

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

Michael writes:

Hello Sajeev, I’d like to ping your automotive wisdom with the following question. Soon I’ll be looking for a new car to replace my leased Corolla. I love power moonroofs (which my Corolla also has). My next car will be a long-term keeper, and even though I’d love to equip it with a roof orifice, I’m not sure about the longer-term reliability of power moonroofs. Are they known to start leaking, to require expensive repairs? Or is it better to buy a car without a moonroof and then have a manual sunroof installed; and would it void the car’s warranty?

I’d like to keep my next car until it falls apart — 10 years or longer. Thanks muchly for your time.

Sajeev answers:

Take it from the guy who has two 10+ year old cars with glass tops: do it. After thirteen years, one car’s factory moonroof needed nothing but a new rubber gasket to eliminate wind noise, a $50 part from a company called the Sunroof Doctor. If you’re paranoid or OCD, ehow.com has some helpful hints on sunroof maintenance.

The other option is a Webasto unit installed at the dealer, and it only needs a new felt pad to silence an occasional rattle from the pop-up wind deflector. No motor failures. No leaks. No brainer.

I prefer factory installed moonroofs because they have a better-integrated look inside the car, especially the switch and bezel. Most importantly, their unique roof stamping lets the glass sit flush with the roof: aftermarket parts normally sit a millimeter on top as they are a cut the roof and drop-in affair.

Bonus! A Piston Slap Nugget of Wisdom:

If you find a great deal on a roof-less car, go aftermarket and haggle on the price. Dealers usually have an off-site outfitter who sells their services at a discount: either you fight for dealer’s cost, or go to the horse’s mouth instead. From what I’ve seen, there’s a 10% markup on this service, so negotiate a better deal.

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  • MBella MBella on Jun 17, 2009

    Factory hands down. The only serious problem you have to worry about is the drain hoses. They shouldn't be a problem if you keep debris from clogging them. Then things like seal will keap the noise down.

  • JohnHowardOxley JohnHowardOxley on Jun 17, 2009

    My dislike of sun/moon/star roofs [added mechanical complexity, more weight high up in the car] is sufficiently great that when I was considering purchase of an S5 [which is a great car in my book, otherwise], the fact that a s/m/s roof was a mandatory option was the deal-breaker. When I look upwards while seated in my car, I want to see solid tin!

  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Save your money and just keep the car.
  • MaintenanceCosts Good stuff. I miss my LS, although it was not as bulletproof as your GS has been, having experienced suspension issues and a premature water pump leak. Lexus knows how to do a comfy sedan.
  • Dartman Nice write up. Well maintained garaged cars easily last 15+ years (
  • Redapple2 The VW saga is well remembered. Ug. RE your Lexus, with such a long refuel interval I d burn only E 0. Some of your E 10 in the tank may be from 6 mo ago.
  • 28-Cars-Later The CD player is glorious. Edit: Also really nice job on the initial shot. I'm not sure if you had any training in photography but it looks professional.
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