By on August 17, 2007

01.jpgChrysler has just unleashed its new minivan, hoping to jump-start sales in a sector that's been shrinking for a decade. During this slide, the Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna have moved their people movers upmarket, banking healthy margins on the back of tremendous customer loyalty. Meanwhile, Kia entered the fray with a more budget-minded alternative, the Sedona. Although Kia missed the obvious marketing opportunity (My, my my, Sedona), the not-so-fancy shmancy minivan has proven itself a sales winner. Why?

It sure ain't style. The Sedona has all the flair and pizzazz of a milk crate. All the minivan cues have reported for duty: a big, bulbous rear; a ridiculously raked front and sliding rear doors that leave monstrous, gaping apertures for child seat and stroller management. While these characteristics are pistonhead poison, not being revolting is the only aesthetic criterion for success in this utilitarian segment. Check.

08.jpgThe Sedona's interior combines economy-class design with business-class space. Fortunately, you don't have to deal with those piss-ant overhead air spigots; the Sedona features three climate zones, each with its own control panel and roof-mounted vents. The seven-seater has enough cupholders for a Vitamin drink demonstration squad. Sadly, only the Sedona's highest trim level offers a whine-suppression system (rear DVD).

To make sure the captain is sitting pretty, the Sedona's helm spot offers eight-way power adjustable seats. All four front-most seats (captain chairs) provide excellent back and thigh support– although the material did feel as rough as a three-day beard. The rear bench seats three non-shorts-wearing rug rats in comfort or three adults in purgatory.

The Sedona's two middle seats can be exorcised by anyone strong enough to pitch the family tent (less coordination required). At the pull of a strap, the rear seat folds into the floor Honda-style, leaving ample room for Costco carting.

While the Sedona does its best to ape the features that make the transplants' minivans a sales success, it knows wherein its lunch lies: safety and reliability. We're talking six airbags, a back-up sensor (that beeps maniacally), a five-star NHTSA crash rating all ‘round and a 10-year, 100,000-mile warranty. Perfect.

10.jpgThe 3.8-liter V6 sheltering under the Sedona's hood pumps out 250hp through a very competent five-speed auto. The Sedona delivers its power evenly and predictably all across its rpm range, making it deceptively fast off the line. Discovering such an enthusiastic power train in such a soul-sapping vehicle is like discovering that the plain girl in your college geology class…

Of course, it's not as silky smooth as the Odyssey (the Sedona). Nor is it as unrelentingly uneventful as the Toyota Sienna. Anyway, in the Sedona's litany of family-focused chatter, the performance provides a much needed shout out to NASCAR Dad, who's otherwise in very real danger of losing his will to live. 

If you expect this barge to handle like a similarly-priced [current gen] Town & Country, you're wrong. The power-assisted rack and pinion steering may be light enough for arthritis sufferers, but the Sedona's independent front suspension and multi-link rear feel tight and work right. In fact, the Sedona hits the road with some unexpected agility; you can actually slalom the van– say, around an errant shopping cart– without generating gastric bypass qualifying body roll.

05.jpgYes, anyone stupid enough to drive the Sedona quickly around a corner will encounter enough understeer to make an Impala SS seem like a sports car. But at family-friendly speeds, the Sedona brings the fight. You know; for a parking space.

Even better, the Sedona will do all this in peace and quiet. Engine and road noise are kept at a minimum. The Sedona coasts over most typical road imperfections with neither complaint nor disruption in its course– all the better to watch Disney movies in ambient, relaxed tranquility (and then explain to the kids why Bambi's mom died).

After driving the Sedona, it's apparent that Kia has decided to concede the wretched morsels at the bottom of the barrel to Dodge and go for the Japanese lions' share of the budget-minded Applebee's crowd.

041.jpgLet's be frank with each other. DOA Mercedes R-Class notwithstanding, the minivan segment has no room for conspicuous consumption. At best, no one will care that your new Toyota Sienna costs more than a used Boxster. At worst, pistonheads will loathe you for dropping Boxster money on a set of wheels that slowly kills you on the inside.

If you're one of the enthusiast types who's resigned yourself to the tragic fate of minivan ownership, the Kia Sedona is a fantastic hearse. If you're a sensible sort who couldn't give a damn about driving dynamics or middle row seats that swivel to face the rear, the Kia Sedona pushes all the right buttons at the right price. It's a done deal.

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43 Comments on “Kia Sedona Review...”


  • avatar
    cgraham

    Thats a great review!
    I am never ever having kids though and if I do they are coming out fully grown so I don’t ever have to buy a minivan.

  • avatar
    GS650G

    Kia and Hyundai are eating Dodge’s lunch in the minivan segment, no doubt about it.

  • avatar
    Sammy B

    So much hate and anger towards the minivan! For what they are [family hauler] they’re FAR superior (imo) to a big-ass SUV or cute ute. Even mid-sized wagons (Passat, Mazda6, Legacy/Outback) come up short in my book.

    The Kia & Hyundai are both very nice. I still prefer the Honda and then the Toyota, but I sure respect the hell out of what Kia & Hyundai have been able to accomplish in only the 2nd gen. Kudos.

  • avatar

    Sammy B,

    I wouldn’t call a ****-rating hatred.

    Ok, you got me though. I hate it.

    Doesn’t mean I can’t call a spade a spade. The Sedona is a great van.

  • avatar
    Sammy B

    Samir,

    I was pointing out the general hatred towards minivans in general…or even the idea of a minivan!

    Your 4 star rating proves it won you over. Don’t try to hide now :)

    (my name is Samir, too..weird)

  • avatar
    Sammy B

    ^ sorry..too many “general”s

  • avatar
    durailer

    great review Samir… and I’m even more convinced considering the Kia Spectra didn’t get a free ride on this site! kudos TTAC.

  • avatar
    TexasAg03

    I agree, the Kia/Hyundai minivans are nice. We shopped those, the Sienna, and the Odyssey and ended up with the Honda. We just liked the way it drove and handled. Plus, it just “felt” better.

  • avatar
    starlightmica

    If you’re buying by the cubic foot, the Kia (and Hyundai) are the best deal in town given their standard equipment. Kia has a short-wheelbase version that can be had for less than $20k.

    There’s also a version available overseas that has a miniature 4th row as well as jump seats to fit 11 (!) people.

  • avatar
    starlightmica

    Sedona with 4th row:

    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_42/car_photo_21041_5.jpg
    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_42/car_photo_21042_5.jpg

  • avatar
    tiger260

    First of all I have to declare that I am not unbiased in my opinion on this subject because I bought a 2006 Kia Sedona early this year. I think your review is pretty fair in general.

    I did a lot of research before buying and test drove both the Kia and the Dodge and I can summarize my reasons for buying.

    Having read every comparison test I could get my hands on I had discounted the GM and Ford offerings as simply not being good enough (however cheap I might have been able to get one). I don’t particularly like the styling of the Nissan Quest and have a bad gut feeling about Nissan’s reliability/quality.

    That left the Honda, Toyota, Kia/Hyundai, and Dodge. If price were no object I would have bought he Honda first, followed by the Toyota ( I’ve had very good luck with the reliability of the two Toyota cars I’ve owned ). However, I also wanted to get a good deal on price. I recognized that the Dodge was probably the least good vehicle out of those 4 options, but felt that I should be able to get a great price what with Chrysler having so much excess inventory and the Caravan due a model refresh in the Fall? Same with the Kia. The safety specs are good, it seemed technologically on a par with the Honda and Toyota, and all in all I rated its value as a vehicle probably 90 -95 % as good at the benchmark Honda?

    I didn’t feel I needed all the “toys” and luxury but did have a list of minimum spec requirements, including stow-and-go- type seats for the rear at least, decent safety, and decent air-con ( we live in the South ).

    In the end, the Kia was by far the best value proposition. Ironically the Kia seemed to be available for a thousand or so less than the almost identical Hyundai version? My interpretation of this was that the public’s perception of the Kia brand is still less impressive than their ever-improving image of Hyundai as the “almost as good as Honda/Toyota” brand ? whereas Kia are still working hard to build that level of respect?

    I’ve always got the feeling when looking at the Hyundia/Kia CAR range that the Kia equivalent is usually indeed a slightly de-contented cheaper trimmed version of the Hyundai – and would justifiably be a bit cheaper in price? However, when I compared the Hyundai Endeavor and the Kia Sedona it was pretty clear that they really are the very same vehicle with the exception of minor details. Not being a badge snob- it seemed logical to me that the Kia was therefore a better buy?

    One thing that I liked about the Kia ( also true of the Honda ) is that you can get all the IMPORTANT equipment ( things like the safety features for example) in the base LX model. The marketing of the Dodge is absolute opposite. The base model Caravans are a totally stripped-out waste of time. If you want a.b.s, stow-and-go, 3-zone air-con, you are forced to buy the long-wheel-base and higher SXT trim level.

    Dodge would not give me a decent price in the end and the local Dodge dealers were the biggest bunch of a***oles I’ve dealt with in a long time – so no deal there.

    The Honda and Toyota both seem to start at about $24-25K and they are not offering any significant rebates or discount on that. I did consider looking for a nearly-new used Honda or Toyota, but I felt that people were just asking way too much for them

    So I chose to buy the Kia. I got a brand new Sedona LX 2006 model year. This was in Jan 2007 but I am not fussy about the nominal model year as I intend to keep it for 10+ years. There were no meaningful differences between the 2006 and 2007 model year Sedona as far as I could see from the specs. I paid $17K + taxes. I feel that was a great deal. 90 – 95? % as good as the Honda for 70% of the price, with a superb warranty too.

    Since I bough it I noticed that Edmunds re-did their minivan comparison test and now rate it second only to the Honda, when you take into account everything including mrsp and warranty. We’ve been very happy with it so far – no issues at all with it in the first 10,000 miles.

    BTW – as with a previous poster – I do have to take issue with the pomposity of some of the self-appointed “true enthusiast” posters on this site from time to time. It is perfectly possible to be a gasoline-veined car enthusiast but to also buy and drive a minivan if your family needs are such. I love cars, motorcycles and most things mechanical but I also need a practical, safe and reliable vehicle for my wife to transport our young family with. I don’t see any conflict in that, you can do both. I think this is probably a subject for examination in a separate thread ( I keep meaning to write an 800-word essay on it for submission to this site…. ) but hey – just try to drop the pomposity it just makes you sound dumb.

  • avatar
    BimmerHead

    Just think of how many of these they would sell if they would move those roof mounted vents to the ceiling instead!!!

  • avatar

    tiger260:
    It is perfectly possible to be a gasoline-veined car enthusiast but to also buy and drive a minivan if your family needs are such.

    May I direct your attention to this article from last April.

  • avatar

    Thank you for this review. I have never driven one of these and was wondering what I was missing out on.

  • avatar
    jpc0067

    I don’t hate all minivans, I hate my T&C, though. I’d take $8000 on trade-in, if anyone would offer it, sigh.

    I got a van because my back was killing me from putting the kids in thier seats in the 2000 S40, oh, and because I DO hate SUVs. I overbought, though, and almost never need the third row. If I wanted another van I’d totally go with the Kia or Hyundai. I really dig the Entourage in all black. Too many Odessey/Siennas in the lot these days, and too expensive, but resell is, as always, awesome.

    The kids can climb in and buckle themselves, now. I want to convince wifey to get a spacewagon or a Passat wagon next.

  • avatar
    tiger260

    Thank you Frank,

    I hadn’t seen that article origianlly (I only foudn my way over to TTAC a few months back) but enjoyed it.

    Liek the whole “men how have to buy full size trucks to compensate for something, even though they don’t have any realistic NEED for one” -

    ….A “real man” is surely confident enough in himself to drive a minivan withouth worrying about what his peers might think of him. Driving a minivan isn’t going to MAKE you a real man, nor is it going to make you ANY LESS of a real man….

    Driving a f**k-off big truck sure isn’t going to make anyon emore of a real man either…. though I guess it might influence the way that the man in question is perceived by some element so fsociety – so I guess that you can argue that for some folks it justifies the expense…..

    Anywya. This is agreat website. Long may it prosper. It makes a nice change to read some thoughtful and well-ritten editorial – and comment from the site’s followers, generally very politely expressed even if I would not always agree with all opinions….

  • avatar
    BEAT

    The Sedona is great van. I think the seats fold all the way down on the floor, air bags,warranty,
    easy ride and affordable.

    compared to the Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey and Nissan Quest they are very expensive.

  • avatar
    Scott

    I remember that geology class. Sleepers are nice; they may not look like much, but properly built, they really get you off…the line! Get you off the line.

    How ’bout that schist, eh?

  • avatar
    starlightmica

    tiger260:
    Not to worry, being a gearhead and appreciation of big/cheap/useful wheeled boxes are not mutually exclusive.

    We have a Sienna as it can LATCH 3 car seats in the 2nd row, and a Mazda5 as its backup.

  • avatar
    drifter

    Front end looks like Honda Civic… no offense to Sendona owners

  • avatar
    Robert Schwartz

    “At best, no one will care that your new Toyota Sienna costs more than a used Boxster. At worst, pistonheads will loathe you for dropping Boxster money on a set of wheels that slowly kills you on the inside.”

    Chill out. Get a grip. We cannot all be Hooners all the time. Life gets in the way. Some of us do not have the resources to live the way you want to live, some of us are of a more practical turn of mind. In any event most of us are less judgmental.

    Cars are, for most of us and most of the time, tools. As such the relevant question is: whether they suit the task they are intended for.

    A minivan is not a sports car to be sure, but what we want to find out from a review is whether the minivan in question is a good minivan.

    And no I am not going to hoon with the kids in the back seat.

  • avatar
    CellMan

    I’m a petrol head. I love all things to do with cars, any vehicles, in fact. I soak up trivia, stats and data. I have a sporty fast car.

    I also just bought an Odyssey last month.

    There’s also a practical side to me. I need to lug around kids, car seats, strollers, other family members and assorted gear. I don’t care about image, badge or what the Jones’ have next door. The Odyssey is the perfect car for us.

    In fact, the Sedona made it onto my shortlist. It is truly a competent vehicle and a superb bargain. I would have bought it, but at heart, I enjoy driving too much, and the Odyssey was far superior in that regard. Well, also, the fit and finish, powertrain and solid reassurance I felt at the helm.

    I’d be interested in seeing how the new Chrysler minivan compares when it shows up at dealers next month. A group test would be grand.

    Great review.

  • avatar
    Geotpf

    I know a single guy who currently owns a older Kia Sedona. He’s always owned minivans (he owned a Dodge Caravan and a Plymouth Voyager before the Kia). He uses it like most people use a pickup-that is, he usually some or all of the rear seats (which tend to end up as living room furniture) and uses it to cart around stuff. Makes sense to me.

  • avatar
    NickR

    If you’re one of the enthusiast types who’s resigned yourself to the tragic fate of minivan ownership

    Never!

    On a different note:

    Chrysler? That’s your ass Kia’s handing you.

  • avatar
    Rodney M.

    I have already owned a Grand Caravan and currently have a * sigh* Ford Freestar. I did test drive an Odyssey after one of the many visits to the Ford dealership’s repair shop. Wow – I know why they are so popular. But the price of a new Honda van is just crazy. The Hyundai/Kia is nearly the perfect van for a family who is on a budget but needs a good set of wheels to haul around a gaggle of kids. I recently visited the Hyundai dealership and looked closely at an Entourage. It really is a nice van. I know people think that Entourage/Sedona vans are eating Dodge’s lunch, but I think they are eating part of Toyota/Honda’s lunch too. People will eventually tire of not having an affordable choice of van that comes with some peace of mind. Hyundai saw the need and is filling the void, quite nicely.

    Funny story. A couple of years ago a friend of mine had a previous gen Kia Sedona. At one point, the power sliding door got stuck open during a rain storm. I thought “what a piece of crap”. He traded it shortly thereafter for a Sienna. Last year, Motor Trend had an Odyssey in it’s long term fleet that had a power sliding door that got stuck open several times. Motor Trend never condemned the van – they just referred to it is a minor annoyance. I’ve often wondered if the same thing would have happened to a Hyundai/Kia/Dodge van, what would MT’s reaction have been.

  • avatar
    confused1096

    I drove the Sedona about a year back when we were hunting for a new minivan. Not a bad van. Unfortunately for Kia their local dealership offered us one of the more offensive car dealer experiences I’ve ever been subject to; the Louisville Kia dealer seems to be notorious for this.

    To echo what another poster asid, the biggest bonus was that all the safety features were standard on the lower trim level. Without the power seat the seating position seems a bit odd for me but my wife was comfy.

    I personally didn’t think it was the equal of the T&C, Quest, Honda, or Toyota. I didn’t drive a Freestar (but bought a Windstar) so I can’t say one way or another. It was a handily better van than the Caravan or the annoyingly sub-par Uplander and Relay.

    I don’t get the hate towards minivans either. They have to be the most versitile and useful vehicles on the market. Now if only someone would reintroduce a minivan built on a truck frame… We’ve actually been a dual minivan family at a couple of points in the last few years. IMO the Quest offered the best driving experience fun factor.

  • avatar
    Blunozer

    I don’t get the minivan hate either.

    I doubt its the minivan itself, rather what it represents… Growing up. That being said, I think a lot of families are realizing that one or two children doesn’t absolutely require a minivan, a small SUV or wagon can sometimes fill the bill.

    Road Trips = Minivan awesomeness. Nothing like a mobile living room to make the miles pass away. I’d rather travel 6 hours in a minivan than 2 hours on a plane.

  • avatar

    It really is a nice van. I know people think that Entourage/Sedona vans are eating Dodge’s lunch, but I think they are eating part of Toyota/Honda’s lunch too.

    I believe this is what I indicated in my review, around the part where it says “wretched morsels.”

    For those of you not getting the Minivan hate, there is obviously some tongue-in-cheek in my review.

    I believe deep down, all men love Minivans and the loathing they profess is just a masquerade wrapped in self-denial. No man is truly alienated by being the Captain of a large roost, evolution would not have had it otherwise.

    If you don’t get what I mean, take a look at what Paul Niedermeyer said in his Bio on Minivans:
    Caravan of Love

    And I quote:

    It was the family bus, and I’ve always enjoyed being a bus driver. From our very first family vacation to dozens of school field-trips, from guided tours all over California and Oregon to canoe trips to Waldo Lake, right to this spring’s full-family trip to the Portland car show, every time I heard the Caravan’s sliding door slam shut on a load of passengers, I felt fulfilled.

  • avatar
    CeeDragon

    I love cars. I mean, I freaking love cars, as I’m sure most of the folks reading this board do.

    But I love my family more.

    And I shake my head in disbelief when I see some parents struggling to transport their family in a vehicle that’s too small, too sporty, or just not right for them.

    Ever see a rear-facing baby seat strapped to the back seat of a convertible? Makes my heart hurt.

  • avatar
    IC Turbo

    We rented one of these for a 1000+ mile roadtrip around the Midwest. It was the basest model you could get, including manual seats. It wasn’t too bad and returned a 20mpg average hauling 4 people and stuff mostly highway.

    I am surprised no one mentioned the manumatic 5 speed. Not terrible for a manual only junky like me (where’s a manual tranny minivan? not that I need one at the moment). I drove the thing in manual mode all of the time just to keep it out of its gas mileage over everything else tuning. The thing was just miserable in full auto mode. How long do you think an automatic tranny manually shifted all the time including downshifting and using engine braking would last? My guess is around 20-30,000 miles tops.

  • avatar
    Steven Lang

    The Sedona has been Kia’s most successful model at the auctions. They tend to have the lowest level of abuse among Kia’s (obviously), they attract budget minded folks who are not afraid of monthly payments (a big plus for dealers), and the extended warranty makes them a bit more marketable than their domestic competitors.

    However, if I were to recommend a minivan for the budget minded consumer, I would push them towards the Chrysler minivans. Kia has routinely been a nightmare as it pertains to long-term ownership, and a lot of the issues that have been remedied by other manufacturers (dashboards that can stand the summer heat, headliners that stay up) have not been fully addressed by Kia.

    I also believe the Dodge powertrains are far more durable. In fact, I wouldn’t even call it close, at least from what I’ve seen at the sales. The 3.3L and 3.8L are virtually bulletproof (getting 200k+ is not unusual) and Chrysler actually overengineered their transmissions for the minivans. I have yet to see one with transmission issues which is more than what I can say for the several generations of Odysseys.

    This segment of the marketplace will definitely be the most interesting over the next couple of years. It’s a shame that Chrysler doesn’t have a diesel lined up for their upcoming van because I really think it would be a high demand option for those folks seeking a more ‘environmentally friendly’ vehicle.

    As it appears now that honor will eventually go to the next gen Honda… with Toyota probably offering the first diesel hybrid minivan a year or two later.

  • avatar
    Johnson

    Samir Syed:
    Although Kia missed the obvious marketing opportunity (My my my, Sedona), the not-so-fancy shmancy minivan has proven itself a sales winner. Why?

    Not sure what you classify as a “sales winner” but ever since the 1st gen Sedona came out sales have been, and continue to be lackluster. The Sedona only sells at a small fraction of what the Odyssey and Sienna sell, nevermind the Caravan.

  • avatar
    Dynamic88

    I’ve never owned a mini van, and probably never will, as I’ve no need for one. But I don’t get the “hate” thing either.

    I always compare them to the old fashioned station wagon – the Country Squires and Vista Cruisers of my youth. These cars were a packaging nightmare. The 3rd seat in the “way back” was inaccessible if facing forward, and if facing backward only offered you a view of where you’d been (though also a chance to make faces at the people behind you).

    You could put kids or cargo in the way back, but it was hard to manage both. The minivan isn’t any longer than the old wagons but gives you considerably more useful space.

    In the ’60s I don’t recall any men talking about being emasculated by station wagons. I don’t understand the hate. Mini vans are simply modern station wagons – useful ones at that.

  • avatar
    iNeon

    I simply adore my sister’s Town & Country. It’s dead-silent, rides on marshmallows, has the plushest seats my rear-end’s had the pleasure to be coddled by since my Mother sold her early 1980′s LeBaron.

    Slide over into the seat– No down-and-over like my neon, no heave-ho like my Father’s Ram– just plain over.

    My point is this: I’m a car guy and I drive the snot out of that minivan every chance I get. There is much fun to be had driving minivans like sporting cars.

  • avatar
    davey49

    Chrysler outsells Toyota and Honda by a 2-1 margin and outsells everyone else by more than 5.
    The Sedona/Entourage do seem like nice vans but sales are poor. Only about 30K units so far.

  • avatar
    Dream 50

    Steven Lang wrote:

    However, if I were to recommend a minivan for the budget minded consumer, I would push them towards the Chrysler minivans. Kia has routinely been a nightmare as it pertains to long-term ownership, and a lot of the issues that have been remedied by other manufacturers (dashboards that can stand the summer heat, headliners that stay up) have not been fully addressed by Kia.

    I also believe the Dodge powertrains are far more durable. In fact, I wouldn’t even call it close, at least from what I’ve seen at the sales. The 3.3L and 3.8L are virtually bulletproof (getting 200k+ is not unusual) and Chrysler actually overengineered (sic) their transmissions for the minivans. I have yet to see one with transmission issues which is more than what I can say for the several generations of Odysseys.

    You got to me shitting me. Chrysler OVER-ENGINEERS their trannies? Since when? As someone who has been in the auto industry for 15 years I can say with total confidence that quite the opposite is true. Try searching Chrysler recalls and then searching Toyota and Honda recalls. That should paint a pretty clear picture.

    And Davy 49, Chrysler out-sells Toyota and Honda by a 2 – 1 margin because their vans are CHEAP. Cheap, cheap, cheap. And what is the rule when you are buying stuff? You get what you pay for. And when you buy cheap, what do you get? Well, in Chrysler’s case, crappy trannies for just one example.

    One can get a better idea of the true value of a car by looking at used prices. What’s your 20 grand Chrysler worth in five years? What’s your Toyonda going to be worth?

    In fairness, Toyotas and Hondas may be overpriced in the used market but if you are going to hang on to a car until it dies, what would you buy?

    Keith

  • avatar
    BEAT

    My Mother’s Mini Van lasted 150,000 miles and it was a Chrysler. She never ever drive THE VAN with stop and go attitude of driving during mild to heavy traffic condition on I-95. My Father said not tail a car in front of you during traffic. He usually drives 3 cars away from the car in front of him And He said it will save a lot on the Automatic Tranny, break pads and especially on gas.

    Keith I wish we could afford those Vans but it is not on our families budget. Actually We both a Chrysler Town and Country. around $26,000 fully loaded.

  • avatar

    its not like anyone HAS to buy a minivan – a nice subaru or audi wagon can git r dun just as well, and you can get it with turbo, awd, and fun handling.

    this is assuming you don’t have an entire brood of children and a wife who knows how to pack only what she needs to survive

  • avatar
    bill h.

    A few years ago, can’t remember where, I read comments by a race driver (Dan Gurney seems to come to mind) who said that he and others he knew in the business drove fast in hopped up minivans regularly , simply because they were the ultimate Q-ships.

    I suppose if the cop radar is clocking your T&C or Sienna going 110 mph+, they might still ticket you–but perhaps they’ll check the calibration on the gun before doing so;-)

  • avatar
    omnivore

    IC Turbo — I second your feeling. If someone would sell a minivan with a stick, I would be much more inclined to consider it. The only even slightly minivan-ish vehicle I know of with a stick is a Mazda5, and for that reason it’s only slightly minivan-ish vehicle I would consider owning.

  • avatar
    davey49

    The Chryslers aren’t that cheap and I still see a lot of loaded T&Cs around. Plus if cheap sells a lot why didn’t the crappy GM vans sell in the 100s of thousands?

  • avatar

    My parents violated my rule of not buying the first version of anything by buying an ’01 Kia Sedona in 2002 because of the warranty. Also my sister was adopted from S. Korea so I think they felt like they had some weird loyalty or something. They’re not exactly thrilled with it, but it has been a fairly reliable vehicle for them over the last 5 years. Those crazy Koreans sure know how to build a car, unless you count Daewoo…

  • avatar
    SMonahan

    I bought a 2008 Sedona for camping. I take out the middle row seats and I can put a really nice camping mattress in the back and sleep in locked-in comfort. I never thought I’d drive a minivan – I don’t even have any kids! – but none of the wagons have enough room, even with the seats folded down, for my 6′ frame to sleep in comfortably.

    People who haven’t driven this van don’t know what they’re missing. This engine is a dream, and on long trips the van is super-comfortable. Best part is I got a huge rebate on it and drove the EX OTD for under $18.5K. For that price I could only get a used Odyssey out of warranty with its gimpy, trouble-prone transmission. I’ve had bad luck with newer Toyotas so I didn’t even look used at Siennas.

    KIAs are vastly under-rated cars. I’d buy another in a heartbeat, and I’ve owned 2 40K+ European sedans.


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  • Jack Baruth, United States
  • Brendan McAleer, Canada
  • Marcelo De Vasconcellos, Brazil
  • Vojta Dobes, Czech Republic
  • Matthias Gasnier, Australia
  • W. Christian 'Mental' Ward, Abu Dhabi
  • Mark Stevenson, Canada
  • Cameron Aubernon, United States
  • J Emerson, United States