By on March 23, 2022

It’s been a while since we’ve covered the trucking protests and you might be wondering what happened with the U.S. People’s Convoy that emerged from the still-smoldering ashes of the Canadian Freedom Convoy. Well, it’s been circling Washington, D.C. for the last several weeks in the hope it can draw sufficient attention.

Unlike the Canadian-based convoy, which saw the government deploy armed men to clear demonstrations taking place in front of Ottawa’s Parliament Hill, the Americans have remained mobile to avoid getting cornered by authorities. Stationed out of Hagerstown Speedway in Maryland, truckers have established a base of operations where they can service vehicles whenever they’re not on the Beltway protesting. Drone shots from above have indicated that there are usually a few hundred trucks parked at the racetrack each morning, though videos from inside show evening returns including hundreds more supportive passenger vehicles. While journeys into the city do take place, they typically involve a handful of trucks designed to make some noise before quickly retreating to avoid being penned in. 

Washington established numerous checkpoints and barricades in anticipation of the convoy in February, calling in the National Guard for assistance. This has discouraged truckers from establishing any kind of base camp within the city, fearful that they would be met with a response akin to what the Freedom Convoy endured. The logistics required here are on par with what would be expected of a small army. Organizers use CB radios to line up trucks before they run side-by-side for miles as they slowly circle Washington (starting around March 6th). Vehicles are rotated in and out, provisions have to be brought in to feed everyone, and smaller groups sometimes break off to drum up support elsewhere.

While the U.S. convoy’s grievances are a little broader than its Canadian counterpart, the core goal remains fixed upon ending lockdown mandates members believe have helped to upend society. They want the emergency declared over and any freedoms stifled in the interim to be immediately reinstated. That means no COVID passports, forced vaccine mandates, contact tracing, mask requirements, or travel/trade restrictions. But they’re also upset with rampant government spending, unbridled inflation widening the national wealth gap, Big Tech censorship, swelling authoritarianism, corporate corruption, so-called cancel culture, what they see as legacy media outlets lying to advance specific agendas (e.g. alleging Canadian protestors engaged in widespread violence), and a political class that seems wholly unaccountable for past misdeeds. Demonstrators have likewise expressed their collective dismay after financial institutions acquiesced to demands from the Canadian government to freeze the bank accounts of truckers and other individuals expressing political dissent — with many arguing that U.S. institutions have engaged in similar, unacceptable behaviors.

In that sense, the People’s Convoy is much like Occupy Wall Street. Both have Canadian roots and effectively served to draw attention to inequality between classes and how the government frequently backs corrupted business interests, only to be undermined by the legacy media with some marked differences. For starters, there are fewer individuals living today that are willing to blindly trust outlets owned by tech billionaires, financed by governments, or hosted by people who they’ve previously caught fibbing in ways seemingly designed to advantage the dominant political class.

However, the mounting media pressure has still associated the convoy with the opposition, despite participants appearing to include plenty of independent voters and moderate liberals breaking away from establishment Democrats. As a result, Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) has conducted numerous ride-along events where he speaks directly with convoy members and has been encouraging the Republican Party to formally embrace the movement in a handful of meetings held in Washington. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) has also expressed support, saying the convoy helped give a voice to millions of people who have concerns with mandates and other issues related to the pandemic.

Brian Brase, one of the convoy’s organizers, has repeatedly tried to keep the message clear by spending the last month reiterating the same mantra to politicians and the public.

“We’re going to keep looping the beltway until we’re heard,” Brase told reporters earlier this month, adding that American and Canadian complaints concerning the government response to COVID-19 are entirely valid and should never have been framed as fringe positions.

“We’re not anti-vaxxers,” he continued. “We’re just pro-choice.”

I would suggest anybody with lingering questions about the truckers dive into the multitude of live streams happening from within these convoy events. While a majority of these come from people directly involved with (or sympathetic to) the demonstrations, they typically incorporate dozens of candid interviews with people on the ground.

This provides a better, more nuanced sense of what’s actually happening on a day-to-day basis than any singular news article. My own opinion of the Canadian and U.S. convoys is pretty well steeped in tracking numerous channels where an individual strapped a camera to themselves and attended protests with a minimal amount of comment. All I can say is that it paints a very different picture than what’s being showcased in the corporate media, regardless of any outlets’ preferred political affiliation.

If you want an example, here’s an article from the Saudi-owned The Independent (the irony) saying the People’s Convoy effectively disbanded in February, followed by footage from inside the still-mobile lineup of trucks roughly a month later. Unfortunately, trucking streams have a tendency to be taken down on YouTube for reasons that are never thoroughly explained, encouraging many streamers (some of whom also covered the Canadian demonstration) to take their channels over to Rumble or other Big Tech alternatives. As fortune would have it, leveraging trucks as a tool for political change has been deemed substantially more controversial than other forms of protest. And that should tell you something in itself.

Ed. note: As Matt correctly notes, many YouTube live streams come from folks who are biased towards (or against — the street goes both ways) the truckers. We’re including the links so you can see for yourself, but you should always be cautious of YouTube live streams from random citizens, regardless of their place on the political spectrum, as they often simply do not have rigorous editorial standards or journalistic training. Buyer beware, caveat emptor, et cetera.

How long will protests continue? Considering truckers are broadly aligned against the current administration, similar to the Canadian convoy, there’s little hope of their ever getting bipartisan support and creating change overnight. Organizers have said they’ll continue demonstrations until all mandates are lifted. Others have said they’ll stay on until concerns extending beyond the scope of COVID have been dealt with and the United States sees a meaningful change in leadership. But running these trucks on the daily is costing a fortune and there have been rumors that the convoy is running out of money.

Christopher Marston, the founder of the American Foundation for Civil Liberties and Freedoms (AFCLF) that collected nearly $1.7 million on behalf of the truckers, recently suggested that media blackouts have discouraged people from donating and made the convoy appear smaller than it is. As a result, the People’s Convoy could find itself without sufficient funding to keep trucks running and help offset revenue lost by participants not working for the last month. Though some have said freight rates and diesel prices have quickly changed to a point where it has become exceedingly difficult for independent operators to make any money — which has been added into the laundry list of complaints North American truckers have shared with the world this year.

“[It’s] not a lot, but the media has slowed down a ton and the truckers are not making the ask for money the way they should, despite training and guidance,” Marston told FreightWaves on Tuesday.

At the end of the day, this is a grassroots movement that’s directly at odds with those in power and the mainstream press. Its decision to avoid planting itself in Washington, similar to how Canadian truckers held parts of Ottawa, may have made it difficult to pin down. But it’s also easier to ignore if you’re not commuting into the city yourself every day, with no public venue for photo opportunities or routine coverage. My guess is that the convoy will gradually lose momentum without additional funding and attention, resulting in more disenfranchised voices going unheard. Footage from this week’s events already looks to be smaller than those from weeks past.

Meanwhile, there have been stirrings that the next step for truckers (if the People’s Convoy fails) will be to organize national boycotts for certain cities in an effort to pressure lawmakers to publicly address their demands, focusing on regions with leadership that has opted to retain COVID-19 restrictions.

[Image: Nicole Glass Photography/Shutterstock]

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191 Comments on “What Ever Happened to the U.S. People’s Convoy?...”


  • avatar
    bkojote

    Here’s what happened- Russia invaded Ukraine and all of a sudden there were real things to care about.

    Combined with the fact that much of the movement was being gassed on social media by *ahem* bot accounts and was suspiciously funded (perhaps by an aforementioned country that has now had its assets frozen) all of a sudden it became clear it had the same *actual* support as say, “Truth Social.”

    let me be real clear- almost all of the people involved were either fake or ‘useful idiots.’

    • 0 avatar
      jkross22

      Totes. No one really cared about the Canadian truckers and their ridiculous demands of not being forced to inject vaccines that as we now know have 9 pages of side effects that was withheld from public scrutiny.

      The nerve – these truckers and their supporters full of the ‘limited government’ gobbldygook and chatter about individual bodily rights – it’s incredible how selfish some people can be. Don’t they know Dr. Trudeau just wanted what’s best for them? He said it himself when he said they’re racists and misogynists. It’s how he shows he cares. Plus, he’s done blackface countless times (really, he doesn’t remember how often he’s done it), so you know you can trust him.

      I get that people bought a story that is as holey as the bible, but when facts come aknockin’, isn’t it time to enjoy a delicious slice of humble pie?

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        The “limited government” argument loses a lot of steam when you consider that if these truckers got sick with COVID, the Big Bad Jackbooted Gubmint they were so up in arms about would also pick up every penny of their hospital stay. And the tax money for that stay would come right out of their fellow citizens pockets – the same fellow citizens whose lives and livelihoods got disrupted by their little “FREEDOOMMMMM!!!” stunt.

        And they knew all that going in.

        Sorry, I don’t buy their “live free or die” bonafides.

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          Mike, you don’t have to buy a thing. Other than what you’ve been buying. Which doesn’t hold up under much questioning or scrutiny.

          Hate the truckers to your heart’s content. Other them, agree with Trudeau. We’ve seen strange partnerships formed. The one most visible in the US is the partnership of those saying they’re liberals while shutting down speech they don’t like.

          It’s really pathetic we’ve allowed this to happen.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            Why are you equating disagreement with hate? If I’m ridiculing these guys, it’s because their “freedom first” ideology is more than a bit hypocritical considering how their country’s healthcare system works.

            Why are you equating screwing with their government’s function and their country’s economy with “free speech”? It’s the former that landed them in trouble with the law, not the latter.

            Why do you think I have to agree with either the truckers or Trudeau? In fact, I think both parties acted foolishly.

            Why is everything a binary choice?

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Your description of truckers comes off as hatred. The all caps communicates that. You come off as loathing people you’ve never met and don’t want to understand beyond the conclusions you’ve already arrived at.

            I’m as close to a free speech absolutist as you’ll likely find. Any occlusion of that right by the government is an attack on it’s people. Taking rights away from citizens is attacking them. A government lying about it’s citizens, blaming them, othering them…. Mike, you know where this can go.

            It’s an awful, repugnant precedent to set, and that power will be used again, perhaps by a side you don’t agree with next time. Trudeau did what Trumpophobes were terrified Trump would do here.

            The vast majority of truckers were principled. I’m basing that on the way too many hours I spent watching interviews by independent vloggers talking with them, the residents of Ottawa and counter protestors.

            Trudeau and his government acted without principles and attacked truckers and their supporters, their ability to speak freely and froze bank accounts, making it not possible to feed themselves and their families. The Canadian government made it clear that they were trying to divide, other, blame and make evidence free accusations intended to push the unwanted further out of society.

            The Canadian government behavior was sociopathic, anti-Democratic and quite similar to Putin’s tactics on arresting anti-war protestors in Russia.

            You can make the case that the truckers were in the wrong, but each time I’ve heard that argument, it’s clear to me it’s hatred of them and not a grievance with the stand they took that drives the opinion.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “The Canadian government behavior was sociopathic, anti-Democratic and quite similar to Putin’s tactics on arresting anti-war protestors in Russia.”

            Someone’s being a bit dramatic. Canada didn’t invade Greenland and try to suppress dissent.

            It’s against the law to block access to a downtown core for several weeks. It’s against the law to prevent others from going about their FREE and lawful business.

            Someone needs to learn the difference between freedom, rights, and privileges.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            @JK

            Is it not possible to think someone’s political actions ridiculous without hating them? Yep. And, yes, complaining about the Big Bad Gubmint COVID Jackboot On Their Throats when it’s the same Big Bad Gubmint that will fund their COVID hospital stays is more than a bit hypocritical. And I find hypocrisy ridiculous. Doesn’t mean I hate them.

            Now, if they wanted to earn some “freedom first” bonafides from me, they’d pledge to pay their own way if they get sick enough with COVID to go to the hospital. That’s a consistent ideological stand. But we know they’re not going to do that.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Mike,

            It’s absolutely possible to believe as you just articulated, but it’s not consistent with your expressions of derision. I’m not in your head, so if you say you don’t hate them, I believe you.

            It would be really hard for them to pay a hospital bill even if they wanted to. Considering the whole freezing of the bank account thing.

            But I’m not in trucker heads either. I’m just against rights being stripped away because they didn’t do as they were told to do by people who couldn’t provide informed consent.

            Pretty rational thinking, at least to my eyes.

          • 0 avatar
            bunkie

            There is absolutely no obligation for a private organization to provide a platform for opinions with which they do not agree. Attempting to force others to provide free access to their subscribers and others is a form of coercion that is completely counter to the very freedoms people who espouse this groundless criticism claim to hold dear.

            The correct response by those who feel censored is to create their own platforms. The fact that they mostly suck at it is telling.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “It would be really hard for them to pay a hospital bill even if they wanted to. Considering the whole freezing of the bank account thing.”

            Canadians don’t pay for healthcare unless they chose to opt out off all social programs. There are some religious groups that refuse to be part of any public program.

          • 0 avatar
            EBFlex

            “Why are you equating disagreement with hate? If I’m ridiculing these guys, it’s because their “freedom first” ideology is more than a bit hypocritical considering how their country’s healthcare system works.”

            Says the guy who aligns with the party of censorship. You must love Putin and his censorship in Russia. Because why should anyone worry about the truth when big government can just tell you what to believe?

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Lou, I hope that at some point, you’ll see you have bought into a story that runs counter to your best interests.

            It sure isn’t today.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “Lou, I hope that at some point, you’ll see you have bought into a story that runs counter to your best interests.

            It sure isn’t today.”

            Please explain.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @JKRoss –

            And pursuant to my “Please explain” comment, cite applicable laws and precedents. Also attach links to peer reviewed evidence from reputable professional sites that back your claims.

            At this point you are starting to resemble a more sophisticated version of Slavuto and EB Flucked.

      • 0 avatar
        Detroit-X

        This!

        Also… There is no vaccine for stupidity, but if there were, the stupid would protest it. The stupid would reject it.

    • 0 avatar
      Art Vandelay

      Countries have been invading other countries and committing atrocities for some time. Is the left finally outraged because this time it is a bunch of white Europeans on the business end of it?

      The Ukranians seem to be holding their own. I’m good with our involvement to this point but honestly the fact that those truckers are paying out the nose for diesel will have far more effect on the average American than anything happening in Ukraine unless of course we get involved and even then, most of you won’t give a rip unless the draft returns. We have 20 years of data on that

      And if you are one of the Canadian commenters5hen yes, I am certain NATO will appreciate the 20 water purification or laundry and bath techs you guys inevitably send over.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        “Is the left finally outraged because this time it is a bunch of white Europeans on the business end of it?”

        I dunno, is “the right” somehow not outraged because of Russia’s “white Christian nationalist” justifications for the invasion?

        I suppose the stupid “left is looooooosers / right is looooooosers” straw man dance can go on all day. But the bottom line is that the U.S. has been aligned with the cause of Ukrainian independence for a long time now. And the outrage here is mainly because Ukraine is a major country on the border of NATO, and that’s a big deal.

        If Trump had been president for this invasion, I think he’d have probably done the same things Biden is doing, just with more mean tweets thrown in.

        • 0 avatar
          Art Vandelay

          And you’d be playing the “woe as us…no more foreign adventures” game.

          It is a dangerous game they are playing. When you supply one side of a conflict sometimes the other side takes exception to it.

          It works sometimes…the USSR didn’t nuke is over supplying the Mujahideen and we didn’t nuke Russia over supplying the Taliban…but sometimes you end up in the water when the Lusitania sinks out from under you because one side didn’t want all the weapons you put on the ship to get through.

          But any debate as to the worthy was and interest to the nation in engaging in this has been stiffled with accusations of being a Putin Stooge if you disagree. Ah well…someone else’s war this time.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            @Art:
            “And you’d be playing the “woe as us…no more foreign adventures” game.”

            You assume poorly. No, I wouldn’t be saying that. And I didn’t think that when Obama hit Russia with sanctions over Crimea either. Bottom line: Ukraine’s a friend. You either stand with your friends, or you don’t. As long as we’re doing this within the bounds of sanity – i.e., American or NATO troops aren’t shooting at the Russians in Ukraine – I’m absolutely behind Biden’s play here, and I think Trump would have done largely the same.

          • 0 avatar
            Art Vandelay

            And that is my point…You can say US and NATO troops wont be involved, but if we are supplyiny Ukraine with lethal arms, Russia will ultimately have a vote in that. I don’t think the populace grasps that as a potential outcome and it is probably a debate that should be had.

        • 0 avatar
          Jeff S

          No I don’t think Trump would be doing the same thing as Biden. Trump would be praising Putin and claiming that Ukraine is part of Russia.

          • 0 avatar
            Astigmatism

            I think, being completely realistic, that under a Trump presidency, the US intelligence community would have reported up the chain that Russia was preparing to invade Ukraine, and the Trump administration would have quashed that reporting, either publicly or privately. When Russia actually launched its invasion, after a false flag event or two along the border with Donetsk and/or Luhansk, it would have given just enough cover for the anti-intervention crowd that there would have been no consensus on imposing more than completely proforma sanctions – basically, the same sort of targeted sanctions banning a couple of senior government officials and oligarchs from traveling to the United States that we imposed a dozen times before. We absolutely would not have spent the last four months secretly and then openly sending Javelins and other military equipment to Ukraine and feeding them live intelligence on Russian military movements, and so Ukraine’s army likely would have folded in a couple of days, like Russia expected it to.

            And when asked about it, Trump would have shot something off the cuff about how Ukraine had been full of Nazis, and the Russians had to go and get the Nazis, who were very bad people, and their president Zensy or whatever his name was had been very rude to Trump and was also a very bad person, and it was good that he was gone.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            @Jeff, Astigmatism:

            I don’t know that Trump would have done nothing, or cozied up to Putin over this. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he would have sanctioned Russia, which he actually did any number of times during his presidency.

          • 0 avatar
            Astigmatism

            Respectfully disagree. Trump’s administration imposed sanctions on Russia a handful of times, but often had to be forced to do so by Congress – in fact, they opposed sanctions when they were considered by Congress in 2017 and then refused to implement those sanctions once they were passed into law in 2018.

            But more to the point, I don’t think there would have been the same consensus on sanctions if the US hadn’t spent the six months leading up to the invasion loudly and repeatedly warning the world exactly what Russia was planning to do, even as Russia repeatedly denied it. And given Trump’s history of siding with Russia’s denials over what he was told by his own intelligence services, I think there’s absolutely no way on God’s green earth that his administration would have done that here. So when Russia staged false flag attacks along the Ukrainian border, and claimed it as justification for invading, it would have killed any unified momentum for serious sanctions, not only within the US but also in Europe. This is exactly what happened in Georgia in 2008: Russia sent ununiformed troops into Georgia to fire on Georgian government forces, and as soon as Georgia responded, Russia used that as a pretext to invade.

          • 0 avatar
            Jeff S

            I disagree as well. Trump is in love with Putin and wishes he had the same power.

      • 0 avatar
        jkross22

        “The Ukranians seem to be holding their own.”

        How do you know this? Putin didn’t approach Ukraine the way the US approached Iraq, at least if you believe anything Putin has said regarding his goals and objectives.

        • 0 avatar
          Art Vandelay

          Obviously…we tried to avoid destroying entire cities.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Pity we didn’t have that same outlook on the people killed in Iraq.

            And then we had a president bragging about how good he was at droning people.

            I wonder what might happen if defense contractors stopped all lobbying.

          • 0 avatar
            Art Vandelay

            Please cite the Iraqi cities that were leveled and the times we targeted civilians as a matter of achieving a strategic objective as the Russians have. Go on, I’ll wait.

          • 0 avatar
            Art Vandelay

            Well I guess you couldn’t find any jkross22 you fncking goat a$$ eater

        • 0 avatar
          Astigmatism

          We actually know what Putin intended: he intended to conquer Ukraine, topple its government, and for Ukraine to “be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world,” within a few days of Russia’s invasion of it. Furthermore, he intended to have replaced Ukraine’s government with a Russian-led puppet government, allowing Putin to effectively lead all of “Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole.” We know this is what he intended, because a state-run Russian news outlet published an article on the Sunday morning a few days after the beginning of the invasion congratulating Putin for having done it, apparently based on the belief that it would have been done by then. Someone apparently forgot to cancel the auto-publication before they went home for the weekend when things started going badly.

      • 0 avatar
        mor2bz

        yeah the terrible price of fuel is so much more important
        than the price of life. Good comparison.

    • 0 avatar
      dwford

      Are you actually suggesting that an anti-government movement is being secretly funded by communist Russia?? You really need to stop watching MSNBC.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        Putin’s Russia (home of some of the world’s most famous shady billionaires) is about as communist as the Birch Society.

        Who knows if he has done anything for this particular organizing effort but he’s well-documented to have offered media support to the European and American right on many occasions.

        • 0 avatar
          Jeff S

          Russia is no longer Communist but Putin the former KGB would like to put together the former Soviet Union and the invasion of Ukraine is less about the threat of NATO and more about empire building.

      • 0 avatar
        Jeff S

        Russia is not Communist. Russia is controlled by a dictator who was a KGB agent.

    • 0 avatar
      MoDo

      ReAl tHiNgS. No, there aren’t. You nor I live in Ukraine. If we dont stop the government tyranny here it’ll be just like it though! I am sick of clowns trying to compare us to Eastern Europe, VERY ignorant.

      • 0 avatar
        Astigmatism

        If we don’t stop the mask mandates that have already stopped, or the vaccine mandates that never started, it will be just like Ukraine getting invaded by a foreign army and having residential buildings and hospitals targeted by artillery fire?

        Mmkay.

    • 0 avatar
      RHD

      The residents of DC should stock up on eggs and let ’em fly when these idiots drive by. Freedom of speech, y’all, you protest, and we protest you in a tangible way.

    • 0 avatar
      Ol Shel

      Unemployed conspiracy theorists protesting mandates and lockdowns that don’t exist.

      Q is winning.

  • avatar
    dartman

    I hate TTAC because of crap like this. Second rate wannabe pundits hijacking a car site (ostensibly)for right-wing political views. Oh the “poor disenfranchised voices going unheard”; I guess it’s TTAC’s job to make sure they are heard.- Good-bye.

  • avatar
    Kendahl

    I wonder how the truckers would feel if a bunch of private citizens surrounded Hagerstown Speedway and refused to let anyone leave the facility without showing proof of vaccination. If the truckers have a right to protest, interfering with thousands of people who just want to get on with their lives, so do those who disagree with them and their tactics.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      The best meme I’ve seen is to keep wearing a mask. If asked by anti-maskers etc. why? Just reply, “I’m free to decide”, “My body, my choice”, and “no government is going to force me to not wear one”.

      • 0 avatar
        Art Vandelay

        You do realize that they would for the most part agree with you, right?

        • 0 avatar
          FreedMike

          I’m still wearing a mask indoors if I’m in a crowded place, and I’ve never been asked why. I’m not going to create solutions to problems that haven’t been invented yet.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @Art – It’s sarcasm and

          “You do realize that they would for the most part agree with you, right?”

          Um probably not. Antivaxxer’s and antimasker’s have bitched to those still wearing masks.

          • 0 avatar
            SoCalMikester

            sounds crappy. in my area a lot of (ususally older)people still mask up, and nobody cares.

          • 0 avatar
            JRED

            “Um probably not. Antivaxxer’s and antimasker’s have bitched to those still wearing masks.”

            So many on the left dream of getting accosted over things like:
            -wearing masks
            -not being a man
            -not being white
            -not being conservative
            -having been vaccinated

            Then they can hop on social media and Reddit and tell everyone how the bad people hurt them, and how there’s still work to be done to make this world worth living in.

            Meanwhile, way more people are getting accosted for not wearing a mask, not being vaccinated, and not being liberal.

            Before you jump to conclusions, I’m a socially (very) liberal, economically conservative libertarian who regularly takes in news from all sides to avoid the echo chambers.

          • 0 avatar
            JRED

            “Um probably not. Antivaxxer’s and antimasker’s have bitched to those still wearing masks.”

            So many on the left dream of getting accosted over things like:
            -wearing masks
            -not being a man
            -not being white
            -not being conservative
            -having been vaccinated

            Then they can hop on social media and Reddit and tell everyone how the bad people hurt them, and how there’s still work to be done to make this world worth living in.

            Meanwhile, way more people are getting accosted for not wearing a mask, not being vaccinated, and not being liberal.

            Before you jump to conclusions, I’m a socially (very) liberal, economically conservative libertarian who regularly takes in news from all sides to avoid the echo chambers.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @JRED – there are some that look foreword to getting slammed hence the meme going around social media. Most people don’t like getting accosted regardless of political affiliation.

          • 0 avatar
            Jeff S

            I had a customer inside Sam’s Club take verbal offense at me for wearing a mask and told me I should have brought my proof of vaccine so yes there are people who are anti mask and anti vaccers who are very vocal to those of us who chose to wear masks. I try to mind my own business and don’t comment to those who don’t wear masks. I did hear some of the pundits on Fox News encouraged viewers to confront anyone wearing a mask and challenge them. The same Fox News whose Tucker Carlson gave support to Putin.

    • 0 avatar
      Daniel J

      “I wonder how the truckers would feel if a bunch of private citizens surrounded Hagerstown Speedway and refused to let anyone leave the facility without showing proof of vaccination. If the truckers have a right to protest, interfering with thousands of people who just want to get on with their lives, so do those who disagree with them and their tactics”

      The left and MSM was A OK with BLM and Antifa blocking access. They even took over blocks of cities. Not fair game for truckers?

      I don’t approve of blocking roads as I, unlike the left, believe that impeding others right to travel.

      But, the left believe that a protest is about inconvenience.

      Many on the right are starting to become “activists” and employ the same tactics as the left. I don’t agree with them, but I the longer we go, the more and more I start to think it is fair play.

      • 0 avatar
        mcs

        From what I can tell, the truckers aren’t actually blocking anyone themselves. It’s the DC police blocking exits that cause the backups. Although, there seem to be plenty of backups anyway without truckers. Trucker streams I’ve seen show that they allow people to merge and keep driving. I haven’t seen every stream and I’m not constantly following them, so I could be wrong.

  • avatar
    S is for Supra

    Don’t really see how this is relevant to automotive media. Car reviews and car related news please.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    First off, this has zero to do with the automotive industry, so it’s another example of this writer mounting his soapbox over an issue he happens to be upset about.

    Having said that…

    Well, yeah. No one’s paying any attention to them because we have bigger fish to fry than a bunch of truckers who are exercised about COVID related restrictions that’s are in the process of being rolled back, or stopped happening almost two years ago.

    That was the polite take. Here’s the impolite take: fellas, if you want to know what REAL oppression looks like, turn on a TV and check out what’s happening in Ukraine, and what Putin is doing to his own people for speaking out against the war. In fact, if these truckers were doing this in Russia, there’s an excellent chance the government would be shooting at them.

    Forget “rebel without a cause” – these guys are rebels without a clue.

    And @Matt: I think you need to start your own political blog if you want to write about stuff that has zero to do with cars.

    • 0 avatar
      EBFlex

      ” so it’s another example of this writer mounting his soapbox over an issue he happens to be upset about.”

      Stop being a child. You don’t like it, don’t read it.

      But no, you read it and then complain in an 182 word diatribe that contributes nothing and offers unsolicited advice. Oh and you posted three comments as of this writing.

      Once again we have the expected attitude of “I don’t like it so everyone has to cater to me”.

    • 0 avatar
      jkross22

      Mike, why do you do this? You’re not changing anyone’s mind by complaining about stories you think don’t belong here and then helping the story by writing multiple comments.

      I respect and enjoy our differences in how we lived through the last 2 yrs and value the dialogue. I have no expectation of changing anyone’s mind and, keeping it real, you shouldn’t either. It’s good to see/hear/understand others’ opinions, especially during difficult days. Helps to make some sense of the world when not much makes sense – if that makes any sense! Sometimes the best any of us can do is to hear out another perspective and try to understand. BTW, I’m saying this as much to myself as I’m saying it to you.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        Well, as long as Posky keeps writing stuff that has nothing to do with cars or the automotive, I’m going to say he needs to start his own political blog for that kind of content.

        • 0 avatar
          Art Vandelay

          If you are unhappy with the staff and content @freedmike, maybe you should ask for a refund

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            Speaking of “rules for thee, not for me,” I wasn’t aware that there is a rule that says people can’t comment on the articles this site posts.

            Perhaps you could point me to the rulebook, guys.

          • 0 avatar
            Art Vandelay

            No rule, it is just idiotic in my opinion to rail against these sorts of articles and question why they are posted, and then procede to fill up the comment thread.

            Know why they post stuff like this? Because people like you click and respond en masse.

    • 0 avatar
      Art Vandelay

      “this writer is totally on a soapbox and it is stupid because this is a car site…now let me get ony soapbox which is totally not stupid and is somehow relevant”

      – FreedMike

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        You’ve been on quite a few soapboxes yourself, Art.

        • 0 avatar
          Art Vandelay

          Yep. And you are free to scroll on by if you don’t like EM’. My soapboxes don’t include griping about content that I don’t pay one red cent for.

          • 0 avatar
            EBFlex

            “ And you are free to scroll on by if you don’t like EM’.”

            Someone with as little self control as Mikey has, I doubt that that will happen.

            He dislikes these articles so much that he repeatedly posts his drivel in protest. Literally the epitome of “rules for thee, not for me”.

            He expects everyone else to cater to his (insane) ideas. He’s always right, anyone that disagrees with him is wrong.
            He doesn’t like a specific article (that most certainly is automotive related) so he throws a tantrum and demands the author change the content he writes.

            The arrogance is astounding.

            If you don’t like an article, STFU and move on. Stop acting like a child

          • 0 avatar
            JRED

            Mike and the left in general have to have a dragon to slay. Deep down he savors the opportunity to comment on Posky’s ‘non-automotive’ ramblings.

          • 0 avatar
            EBFlex

            ” Deep down he savors the opportunity to comment on Posky’s ‘non-automotive’ ramblings.”

            It’s true. He’s commented 18 times in this thread.

            I’d say his behavior is typical of his ilk. They want to keep Covid going forever because it gives them control despite campaigning on “I’m gonna stop the virus!” -Brandon

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “Mike and the left in general have to have a dragon to slay.”

            Seriously?

            Both the left and right play that game. Faux outrage is the norm on both sides of the political aisle.

            The whole freedumb rally thing over mandates is a prime example. I was looking at the difference between liberals and conservatives in Canada in relation to support for vaccine, mask and distancing mandates. There’s only a 10% difference between the groups when it comes to support i.e. 10% higher in the liberal camp. We are looking at 70 – 80 % support among conservatives.
            Nuance is gone because social media algorithms and politicians only see “likes” or “dislikes”.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    Q: What happened to the People’s Convoy?

    If your comparison to Occupy Wall Street is correct, then the Convoy’s broad agenda means it’s just a loose confederation of angry people who are mad about stuff.

    A: Nobody cares. I don’t follow it.

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      If these truckers wanted people to pay attention to them, they should stop with the “mAsKs aND vAxXiNeZ Iz TyRaNY” bulls**t and start talking about the working conditions within their own industry, which are abysmal.

      (Paywall article, but you should be able to read it…)

      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/15/opinion/truckers-surveillance.html

      Now, THOSE are legitimate beefs. And they impact the country – part of the reason for all these supply-chain issues is that the suppliers can’t find people to drive the trucks. Given the issues presented in that story, it’s no mystery why it’s hard to find people who want those jobs.

      Otherwise, as you say, they’re angry people who are mad about stuff.

      • 0 avatar
        bunkie

        This is an excellent point. I am deeply sympathetic with respect to the real issues that truckers face, with the squeeze caused by the awful confluence of electronic overlords dictating rest time and the lack of decent facilities in which to park and rest, not to mention a miserable pay system that allows their employers (oh, sorry, they’re independent contractors) to shift operational burdens and costs onto their backs.

        But this silly behavior? It’s ridiculous. In my opinion, these guys need to wake the hell up and do the only thing that will fix it which is to unionize. But everyone has been so poisoned with respect to unions that they can’t see that they have become indentured servants whose only other “choice” is to starve.

        In fact that’s the entire problem with American politics. We all think, as John Lennon sang that we’re all “clever and classless and free” when the real enemy of freedom is economic control. The foremost example of which being any sort of contract between some individual and a well-financed entity that cedes all sorts of rights (look at any “self-employed contractor” agreement or purchase contract). That wouldn’t be so bad if there were alternatives. But there aren’t any. While no one was paying attention all the anti-union and “expensive lawsuit” brainwashing has stolen much of the individual power needed for people to actually be free.

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    These truckers who are opposed to vaccine mandates and basic public health measures seem to forget that since the days of C.W McCall on 8-track a full medical work up is required to drive for a firm. I doubt many of these folks complained about it infringing on their freedom.
    Instead they ought to be fighting for better working conditions and reducing the shortage of truckers and then maybe folks would listen and support their movement, well except for Fox who get all upset when workers not CEOs demand a modicum of agency.

  • avatar
    Astigmatism

    Kudos to the editors for a particularly appropriate and revealing photo to accompany the article.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    This is no longer The Current Thing so nobody cares anymore, however it was the Canadians who must be credited for the final kill leading to the switch to European conflict.

    OMFGHAVETOGETINJECTIONORWEREGONNADIE was complete fraud brought to you by the people behind the lies of:

    JFK Assassination 1963
    Gulf of Tonkin/Vietnam 1964-75
    Gulf War 1991
    Iraq 2003-11
    Afghanistan 2001-21
    Libya 2011
    Ukraine 2014
    Plandemic 2020
    Ukraine 2022 (maybe only 50% at fault this time)

    Good luck to the injected.

    • 0 avatar
      Astigmatism

      You missed the moon landing, fluoridated water, and the 85 Bears.

    • 0 avatar
      EBFlex

      Excellent post 28. Very well stated.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      @28:

      Your normally well-stated thoughts are becoming unglued.

      It’s hard to live within a construct that says everything is a lie, but only I (and a select few) have the truth. That’s a key component of cult membership.

      Step away from your news diet and take a walk outside. It’s not so bad out there.

      • 0 avatar
        jkross22

        SCE,

        Weren’t you the one saying 3-15% of the world would die of covid 2 years ago? I do recall you specifically typing that on this very website.

        Let’s get you a mirror.

        • 0 avatar
          dal20402

          The reason that didn’t happen is the very vaccines that 28 is irresponsibly labeling a conspiracy theory.

          Even the Cheeto agrees. His stubbornly pro-vaccine stance is the one thing I can give him credit for getting right.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Or the 100mm plus who acquired natural immunity. Funny how that escapes any explanation, eh.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            The difference is that equipping 100M people with “natural immunity” resulted in 1M deaths, while injecting 250M people with vaccines resulted in some number of deaths that is very hard to ascertain precisely but most likely well under 1,000. (The vast majority of the ~15K deaths reported after vaccine administration would have occurred anyway; the death rate after vaccination is barely higher than the baseline death rate.)

            I’ll take the vaccine, thanks.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “acquired natural immunity”

            “Natural Immunity” is only sufficient if you happened to have gotten very sick from SARS – CoV – 2 __________ (Insert variant here). Vaccines provide immunity comparable to that of “very sick”. A mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic infection isn’t going to provide robust or durable immunity.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            dal, the assumptions being made to believe the story you believe are remarkable. Lots of guesses, no proof, no evidence. It is hard to ascertain vaccine injuries. I wonder why that might be.

            But I do agree with your ending comment. You should take the vaccine, because only you can determine what is best for you. I am grateful that it is available for the people who want it.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Lou,

            “Vaccines provide immunity comparable to that of “very sick”.

            No, the covid vaccine provides an immunity response, not immunity. We know vaccine effectiveness wanes fairly quickly – 90 days I believe was the last broadly believed estimate.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @jkross22 – immunity from a mild or moderate bout of COVID-19 doesn’t last as long either. That’s my point.

            SARS-CoV-2 mutated multiple times. That’s why “sterile” immunity is no longer an available.

            I read some interesting comments made by a Doctor against masks. Vaccines reduce the risk of hospitalizations by 90%, reduces odds of death by 97%, and reduces the spread of SARS-CoV-2 by 50%. He was pro-vaccines and anti-mask (in low risk public setting)

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Lou,

            The doctor you mentioned…. where did he obtain the data you quoted?

            My skepticism can’t be contained.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “My skepticism can’t be contained.”

            @JKRoss – He cited one study on masks but not for his claims related to reducing spread and hospital admissions. He is an ICU Intensivist so I’d suspect that he’s have access to provincial hospital statistics. Most studies I’ve seen would back up what he said.

        • 0 avatar
          SCE to AUX

          @jkross22:

          “Weren’t you the one saying 3-15% of the world would die of covid 2 years ago? I do recall you specifically typing that on this very website.”

          I made no such prediction, so you recall incorrectly. Covid has had a steady 2% fatality from the beginning, of those who actually get it. I have stated that several times.

          Of course, we’ll disagree on that simple number, and the 973k US deaths attributed to it, and the import of those deaths. But OK.

          Not sure why you bring that up in response to my concerns about 28’s latest ravings.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            SCE,

            I do recall it was you mentioning that guesstimate of people who would die from covid, as it was such a specific data point. I remember jumping on it at the time as factless fear mongering.

            I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

            To your broader point regarding data, that too will change. For example, CDC’s acknowledgment that just under 1/4 of the reported covid deaths of kids were ‘coded incorrectly’ and were falsely reported.

    • 0 avatar
      jkross22

      It is interesting that Covid coverage when from near 100% to near 0% over, what, a 3-4 day stretch. It’s almost as though people don’t want to believe their eyes, ears and intuition.

      Propaganda is highly addictive. Keep ’em scared or angry (or both – that’s where you get the real dopamine kick) and keep em coming back for more. Super profitable for everyone but the people we’re supposed to be informing.

      Just don’t let anyone ask any questions. And if they do, just whip out the list of ad hominem attacks to silence the discussion. Can’t have anyone questioning any of the story arc.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        Define “near 100% to near 0%”.

        Click on any news outlet’s website, and I can guarantee you that COVID related news is somewhere near the top of the page. It’s still an important story, but others (Ukraine, the SCOTUS nomination, etc) are more prominent right now. That’s how news works.

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          Define 100 – 0. Seat of the pants. Headlines. What occupies the top stories. Very unscientific, but as clear as day.

          Near top of the page?

          Go to the LA Times. Had to scroll quite a while to find a covid article, and they were full on Covid panic spreaders consistently.

          Less scrolling needed with the Grey Lady.

          I don’t bother with the alphabet soup of broadcast news because they decided long ago to send all reporters to stenographer school before turning them loose on news ‘reporting’.

          I guess we see what we want to see. Or not.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            @jk:

            I think you’re seeing what you want to see too.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Mike,

            Of course, I’m not immune. From having blind spots, that is. Gotta be careful about that I word. Immunity, not the other I word that can’t be mentioned. Or can we say it now?

            I love 2022.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        “It is interesting that Covid coverage when from near 100% to near 0% over, what, a 3-4 day stretch.”

        There is ample evidence that Russian bots and troll farms have shifted away from agitating over Covid – 19. It dropped off significantly with the invasion of Ukraine.

        So, um, yes. You are correct.

        As far as mainstream media in Canada, I still see daily coverage on Covid -19 with most outlets with an online presence.

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          Lou,

          Are you saying you believe Russian troll farms are to blame for the alphabet networks and US newspapers ceasing coverage of Covid?

          That’s unfortunate that you believe that. Someone should contact all of those networks and newspapers and confirm this. That would make a helluva story.

          To your point about Canadian news, I just did a quick check on Canada’s corporate news leader, CBC, and indeed you’re right. They have 2 stories about Covid and I didn’t have to scroll down to see 1 of them. Now, that’s 2 out of about 20 stories on their main page, so I get 1/2 credit as well. It’s been dropped quite dramatically.

          Do the Russian troll farms attack CBC, too?

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @jkross22 – I’m pointing out that most of the antivaxxer, antimask, antimitigation mis/dis-information information on the net has been amplified and/or spread by Russian troll farms and bots. Same goes for the freedumb convoy rhetoric. Experts and non-experts have noted that most of the BS evaporated with the Ukraine invasion.

            The coverage on mainstream media has shifted to Ukraine. COVID-19 has wained and since measures are lifted people are no longer focused on it. I believe that with BA2 we’ll be back to masks and other measures eventually.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Lou, you’re guessing again. Or repeating whatever you heard or read in corporate news.

            Russian troll farms… Are they also to blame for global warming, Lima beans and crazy chicks we dated in our 20s? Still believe in Russia gate and Trump, despite his profound idiocy, being Putin’s puppet? How do you make the jigsaw puzzle pieces fit the story you believe is true? You really can’t see the contradictions you have to ignore to believe all this?

            You don’t strike me as someone who just believes what they’re told, especially when the story clearly has major plot problems and the story you believe is built on sand.

            My blind spot is I have a hard time trusting. It appears yours is trusting things you should be questioning.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @jkross22 – I double or triple check everything I read.
            “You really can’t see the contradictions you have to ignore to believe all this?”

            LOL.

            Typically I provide links or rationale for comments especially when asked. I’ve cited Canadian law and various studies not just links to a reporters interpretation.

            I ask you for your sources and you say, “I’m not playing that game”.

            If you see irregularities or contradictions in what I say, specifically point them out with a basis to support your claims.

            if you want to debate, let’s debate.

            You are being rather one-sided. Is that laziness or an actual gnawing sense that you can’t actually refute any of my claims based on hard evidence?

            The whole “grand conspiracy”, “puppet of the masters” schtick is getting rather tiring.

    • 0 avatar
      Dave M.

      Don’t forget Sandy Hook, Hunter’s laptop and children-in-the-cellar pizza shop.

  • avatar
    Lou_BC

    “you might be wondering what happened with the U.S. People’s Convoy”

    Um no. Not at all.

    Canada’s freedumb protestors are working their way through the courts. One isn’t free to break the law.

    Go to Ukraine to see what it really looks like to have freedom stripped from you.
    In Canada we had “Privilege” Protests not freedom protests!

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      Yeah, to sum up those yahoos’ “arguments”:

      Vaccines and masks are Big Gubmint Tyranny, but when we catch COVID and the FREEDOM!!!!! method (i.e., ivermectin-and-Jesus-take-the-wheel) fails, we need Tyrannical Big Gubmint (which is funded by the same fellow citizens who got inconvenienced by my protest antics) to pay for my two-month ICU stay.

      Do they see the irony? I doubt it.

      At least the trucker protesters here in the States are playing nice, versus throwing a wrench into government operations and screwing with peoples’ livelihood like they did in your neck of the woods.

      • 0 avatar
        Art Vandelay

        IT IS BS THAT THIS AUTHOR POSTS NON CAR RELATED CONTENT…NOW LET ME ECLIPSE HIS WORD COUNT IN THE COMMENT SECTION AND WONDER WHY HE POSTS THIS STUFF!!!”

        -Freedmike

    • 0 avatar
      Jeff S

      @Lou_BC–Some of those protesters actually support Putin and believe that many of the Ukrainians are being denied their right to be Russian by a group of revolutionaries. I have heard a few of avid Trumpers who completely support Putin. Crazy times. As for this article it has succeeded in getting clicks and beyond that it is insignificant and definitely has little to do with cars and trucks.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        Putin’s politics resonate with white-power / christian (lowercase on purpose) nationalists out there. And there are definitely some of those in his country. But I think he definitely overrated the whole “ethnic identity” thing when it came to Ukraine – no one’s falling back willingly into the arms of “mother Russia.” Given the country’s history (the “holodomor,” in particular), it makes absolute sense.

        On a side note, speaking of “stuff Putin didn’t count on,” it appears at least 7,000 Russians are dead as a result of this war, all in the space of a few weeks – an astounding number given that a little over 4,400 Americans died in Iraq, over ten years. Clearly the Ukrainians are a tougher than anyone gave them credit for, or the Russians are a lot more inept than we thought (or both).

        • 0 avatar
          sgeffe

          Probably both.

          If things would have been thought through differently at the end of WWII, they probably wouldn’t have been a threat at all.

          Unfortunately there’s the issue of several thousand nukes aimed at us which must be taken into consideration!

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @sgeffe – thats the problem. Putin has a finger on the firing button of the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet.
            His military has shown itself to be incompetent on multiple levels. Poor logistics, maintenance, communication, coordination and training.

            Russia has a population of 144 million with a poor GDP for its size. Canada has a larger GDP with a slightly smaller country and 4 times less population. They cannot sustain a lengthy military operation.

  • avatar
    spookiness

    I live inside the Beltway, and I didn’t even realize this was still a thing until Tuesday of last week when I went to see friends near Capitol Hill and saw police and dumptrucks camped out at exits off 395 & 695. We’re kind of used to this thing around here. Apparently they kept getting broken up in local traffic, got lost, complained there is nowhere to park on city streets, and were cranky because so many others decided to exercise their speech freedoms and flip them the bird. The eds here got the click though, congrats!

  • avatar
    mcs

    “Unfortunately, trucking streams have a tendency to be taken down on YouTube for reasons that are never thoroughly explained,”

    It’s always explained in a notice to the streamer. Most of the convoy’s takedowns are music copyright violations along with medical misinformation.

  • avatar
    Imagefont

    Check out “sorryantivaxxer.com” for a long list of “pro-choice” dead truckers. Another word for a trucker who was pro-choice on vaccines and died of Covid is “over-weight Trump supporter butt hurt over the election he lost fair and square, who won’t be voting in the next election”.
    And just to clarify: if you’re not vaccinated and boosted against Covid-19 by now, you are by definition an anti-vaxxer.
    Billions of doses given, proven safe and effective. End of discussion.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      All those victims had a pre-existing condition.

      Healthy freedom lovers don’t need to worry.

      /s

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      Except for all the unknown long term side effects. Good luck!

      • 0 avatar
        turbo_awd

        @28 – please list common vaccines with long-term side effects that don’t show up for at least 1.5 years. Then, on line 3 (leaving 2 blank lines for good practice), list all those vaccines where side-effects show up well before 1.5 years.

        For extra credit, also list diseases with long-term side-effects that can be prevented by vaccines. I’ll get you started: chicken pox / shingles. I’ll have to get my Shingrix shot sometime soon. Thankfully it’s available as I’m entering my 50s, unlike 30 years ago..

    • 0 avatar
      Art Vandelay

      I’m glad you get some satisfaction from watching people that have made questionable decisions have to deal with the consequences of said decisions. I will remember that when I see stories about the poors being unable to afford gas or groceries and/or being evicted. I mean surely there was some questionable choices there.

      Thanks d!ckface

  • avatar
    EBFlex

    “What Ever Happened to the U.S. People’s Convoy?”

    Same thing that happened to the big, bad, super duper scary Covid cold. It magically disappeared when the media stopped talking about.

    And they moved our focus to the war.

    • 0 avatar
      Kendahl

      Meanwhile, Omicron.BA2 is spreading across the country. Whether it becomes another surge, like .BA1, will depend on how many COVID deniers got “vaccinated” involuntarily by exposure to .BA1.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      @EBFlex:

      Covid = fake news
      Ukraine = fake news

      What is the real news… gas prices? It’s fake news to me because I drive an EV.

      • 0 avatar
        EBFlex

        “@EBFlex:

        Covid = fake news
        Ukraine = fake news”

        Show me where I said either of those is fake.

        • 0 avatar
          SCE to AUX

          @EBFlex:

          “the big, bad, super duper scary Covid cold”

          You’ve always treated Covid as fake news.

          “they moved our focus to the war.”

          You see war coverage as a diversionary tactic by the media.

          Gimme a break. You’re reading Tucker’s script.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            A troll’s gotta troll.

            This topic is one of the bridges one crosses that he crawls out from under.

          • 0 avatar
            EBFlex

            ““the big, bad, super duper scary Covid cold”

            You’ve always treated Covid as fake news.

            “they moved our focus to the war.”

            You see war coverage as a diversionary tactic by the media.

            Gimme a break. You’re reading Tucker’s script.”

            So show me where I said either of those things are fake. Do you know the definition of the word fake?

            I’ve always maintained that the covid cold is real and I’ve always maintained that the war in Ukraine is real. You are stooping to the deplorable level of Lou or Mike in commenting flat out lies. Be better

  • avatar
    Mike Beranek

    If they were really truckers, they’d be protesting in Fremont against automated driving technology, which actually is a real threat to their ability to make a living.

    • 0 avatar
      Jeff Waingrow

      From what I’ve read, the life of a big rig trucker is a horror. Total regimentation with frightful hours, not to mention the constant surveillance by bosses. It’s right out of 1984.

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      @Mike:

      Bingo. I posted a NY Times article on this above. The upshot of it is that all the automation was put in place for safety (which makes sense), but is being used to monitor every last second these drivers spend behind the wheel. It’s micromanagement to the umpteenth power. No wonder these trucking companies can’t keep employees.

    • 0 avatar
      turbo_awd

      Sure, automated driving will impact their livelihood. But from Fremont? Are you talking about pony.ai?

  • avatar
    Jeff Waingrow

    Perhaps these protests and ones in other realms are a form of displacement. By that, I mean that something is gnawing at the aggrieved but the way it’s expressed masks what’s really going on. My take is that the working folks of America are getting screwed in a multitude of ways and are struggling to keep a sense of dignity and purpose. Until the wealth of this country is more fairly distributed and honest work is honored, we’ll struggle and pull ourselves apart. I’m curious if others might agree.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      @Jeff Waingrow

      I agree. Working people feel powerless and left behind. Protesting masks/vaccines/mandates give a sense of control.

      The working middleclass at one time were the “preferred class” of the wealthy elites since they made them wealth by extracting recourses and working in factories. They were also the one’s that became law enforcement and soldiers therefore enforcing their laws and constructs.

      We’ve seen that class replaced by those with degrees, PhD’s etc. Science, technology, and those who manipulation laws and money. That’s where the elites make money.
      The working middleclass has been discarded and left behind.

      Another aspect of disenfranchisement are social changes. Women in the workforce, ethnicities attaining more power and wealth, changes in gender definitions etc. also contribute. It’s hard to cope with all of the change.

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      @Jeff:

      +1 again. I think a great deal of all the political anger out there – no matter which “wing” it’s coming from – is based on a sense that “no one’s listening, so I better shout extra-loud.”

      Wealth inequality is a big piece of that, but there’s also a widespread belief that elected officials aren’t listening to voters anymore, and that’s abaolutely correct. They’re listening to the people who pay for their campaigns. We’re just the folks they’re trying to talk into returning a ballot for. Campaign finance reform would go a LONG way to fixing that particular issue.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        You can only do so much about the wealth gap without, well, reducing the wealth gap.

        You need changes in tax, labor, and antitrust policy to get there. If the Democratic Party would govern based on what its voters believe, they would make all of those changes in short order. Unfortunately the donors always find a way to get the Democrats to pull their punches. It makes them look weak and feckless, and it’s no wonder they’re having trouble competing even though the other side has disappeared down a rabbit hole of loony conspiracy theories and authoritarianism.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      Both D’s and R’s are on the positive side of the wealth gap, so I’m pessimistic that either party has a great answer.

      Personally, I believe the social welfare policies that started in the 1930s (and have expanded ever since) have effectively and unwittingly enslaved generations of people while helping only a few.

      The common answer by the D’s is to do more of the enslaving bits, while the R’s want to eliminate the helpful parts.

      This is but one reason I went Libertarian – I’d prefer the government avoid such social entanglements.

    • 0 avatar
      Jeff S

      Agree bad working conditions, price of diesel, pay, and being replaced by autonomous driving are the real issues.

      • 0 avatar
        eng_alvarado90

        They’re also being replaced by Mexicans truck drivers that would take the pay without even asking.

        I know a couple who just jumped in this year, their company issued the work visas and all.
        Trucking companies will do anything to get their shortage of drivers mitigated, even if that involves taking truckers from elsewhere

  • avatar
    mleitman

    I love “government deploy armed men”. They’re called police. And were both men and women. They were clearing out an illegal occupation of the parliamentary precinct. I guess over in Toronto you didn’t know what was going on.

  • avatar
    Art Vandelay

    Have you seen the price of Diesel lately? I’d imagine that has a little to do with it

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      That’s a legitimate beef, but I’d say tooling around in a crap-mileage semi truck around outside business hours is a good way to lose money, and a silly way to effect change.

  • avatar
    jmo2

    Here is a crazy idea, Matt. Why don’t you pick a car, drive it around, and tell us what you think about. That would be nice.

  • avatar
    stodge

    Are they also pro choice on abortion I wonder?

    • 0 avatar
      sgeffe

      The difference is one side wants to have the choice to remove something FROM their bodies, while the other side doesn’t want something forced INTO their bodies.

  • avatar
    dwford

    A shocking number of people here are thinking just how the government and the corporate media want them to think. Regurgitating the punching down insults about the truckers they see on TV.

    TTAC was founded all those years ago as an antidote to the cozy automotive press industry and their back scratching coverage of new cars etc. TTAC has endeavored to maintain that idea of truth over spin.

    So if you are happy believing the spin, maybe those legacy magazine based websites would be a better fit for you.

    • 0 avatar
      jkross22

      TTAC early days/GM’s inevitable fall was an easier event to see beyond the headlines to understand. This site had insiders, industry experts and well informed civilians with a knowledge of GM’s foibles that did a good job explaining the progression of events.

      People weren’t turned on each other. Sure, there were heated exchanges and strong opinions, but the press and government weren’t actively trying to turn GM boosters against GM critics. It’s quaint to think about 2008 now that we’ve seen the absolute sh**show the last few years turned out to be.

      • 0 avatar
        dwford

        I didn’t think this article calling for readers to look beyond the corporate media spin and to go directly to the youtube channels covering the convoy was a controversial thing to suggest. But the comments here say otherwise.

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          Pick any of the official lies in the recent past – Hunter’s laptop, lab leak, vaccines are safe for everyone, vaccines are effective, Putin threatened nukes, or go back to Iraq and WMDs or how the CIA doesn’t spy on Americans…. tough to keep up with all of it. Chances are that if you believed these even in the face of evidence either proving you’re wrong or bringing your beliefs into doubt, that you’re not open to changing your mind.

          People are committed to propaganda for lots of reasons – social pressure, fear of being ostracized, fear of retaliation for not going along, fear of looking stupid, fear of standing alone. That last one is a kicker.

          It’s crazy how easy it is to get people to ignore their senses and evidence and just go with their anger or fear or just go with the crowd.

          It’s not their fault. If you’ve ever been in a relationship with someone who was manipulative, you know how they distort reality – get you to believe or do things that in hindsight made no sense, even if it was nothing more than staying with them.

          Now magnify that feeling of being manipulated by that one person and imagine it’s most or all of your social and work circle.

          It’s the only way I can make sense of what has happened.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            “People are committed to propaganda for lots of reasons’

            So… anything not keeping with your own beliefs is propaganda?

            I didn’t know that my entire adult life in healthcare was spent as a propaganda mule. /sarc

            Makes sooo much sense….

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Depends. Do you believe in false stories after the facts that underpin them are proven wrong at worst or suspect at best?

            Pretty sure you do.

            Remember our last mask discussion?

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @jkross22 – I still see a net benefit to masks. The verdict is still out on Omicron but experts have pointed out that the increased infectivity is at the human level not barrier level. Most reports have been based upon data with multiple variables. It’s tough to do a randomized trial on a large scale with the general populace.

            The “Bangladesh Trial” showed an 11% reduction in symptoms overall but broke down into age groups, those 60 and over were 35% less likely to get sick. The caveat being that the mask wearing compliance rate in the trial group was around 42%.

            I’m not lying or supporting any false propaganda. I base my practice on the best available data. Professionally, I see plenty of anecdotal evidence that masks work.

            I typically don’t see anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-mitigation measure proponents pot foreword any compelling evidence. I at least am putting foreword what I base my opinions upon. That’s informed consent in practice.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            Lou, unfortunately, in each exchange we’ve had regarding masking effectiveness, you quote stats that are 1-2 years old that dealt with other variants. When I’ve pointed this out, you either don’t respond or can’t address the data gap.

            I get it. Regardless of what new data is available, you are committed to masking as an effective way to slow transmission, even when the data doesn’t claim that.

            That’s fine. You make the best decision for you. But don’t push your data absent views on others and don’t make up things or guess. We’ve all had enough of that for 2 lifetimes.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @jkross22 – I quoted a recent study “Bangladesh” on masks. I don’t have a problem citing “older” studies since I’m inclined to side with the experts that feel “increased infectivity” is at the “biological level” not “barrier level”. I do agree that random face coverings provide little personal protection.

            As I’ve said up thread, you evade when asked for studies to support your claims. Feel free to contradict me BUT BACK YOUR CLAIMS. It isn’t all that hard if you research as much as you claim to do.
            This is rather one sided. I’m expected to cite current up to dat recommendations backed by studies and you are not.
            It’s ironic that you are the one insinuating that i have a credibility gap!

  • avatar
    Dave M.

    “We’re not anti-vaxxers,” he continued. “We’re just pro-choice.”

    Lol. Pro-choice. Uh huh. But at least they’re keeping moron Ted Cruz away from Texas.

  • avatar
    probert

    Mainly funded by far right extremists, these guys can’t get out of their own way, they are despised by most in the DC area, they have no idea what they are doing, they are getting ill from COVID, and they’re burning a lot of fuel. No one is penning them in, teay sre not hiding from anything, mostly people would like them to just go away. Bunch of idiots – I mean patriots…

    • 0 avatar
      MoDo

      Nope. 85% of funding came from regular Canadians that were sick of lockdowns and gov overreach. This has been proven several times.

      • 0 avatar
        Astigmatism

        Um…

        “Data analysis shows that just over 50 per cent of donations were said to originate in Canada, totalling US$4.3-million. Another 43 per cent, or US$3.6-million, were said to originate from the United States…

        American donors, however, outnumbered Canadians: 51,666 donations were registered as coming from the U.S., 56 per cent of the total. Canada, in contrast, was the stated country of origin for 36,202 donations.”

        https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-data-leak-reveals-canadians-americans-donated-millions-to-fund-convoy/

  • avatar
    ToolGuy

    Supply Chain Update, March 24 2022:
    • The Purdy White Dove roller covers which I ordered on March 5 should be delivered by April 3. (Good thing I keep a stockpile, no?)

    The Truth About Trucking:
    А) The current shortage of long-haul truck drivers will ultimately be addressed by automation
    Б) This automation will begin on Interstate segments, because Interstate driving is significantly less complex than driving other places (true fact)
    В) It will start in relatively fair-weather states
    Г) And in relatively nice weather conditions

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/university-of-michigan-study-claims-automated-trucks-could-cost-500k-us-jobs/

    Here is the referenced study from the University of Michigan (which triumphed over Ohio State in their latest football clash) and some other university in some U.S. state which used to produce automobiles but doesn’t so much now:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-022-01103-w

    Opinion About Trains:
    • Generally, the U.S. should utilize rail more and trucks less. This would be generally more economical, generally less polluting, and generally improve my driving experience.

    Sidebar on steel wheels (excerpt – “The footprint of a steel wheel on a steel rail is about the area of a dime”):
    https://steelinterstate.org/topics/steel-wheels-or-rubber-tires

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      My understanding is that rail links in the USA can be a logistical problem since there are multiple rail carriers. Rail lines into and through large cities are a major choke point. The thefts going on in California are another issue.
      Containers shipped to Northern Canada at Prince Rupert (Northern West Coast) and then via rail to the Eastern USA typically arrive much faster than through the USA. There is a 3 day shorter sailing time and a few days shorter rail time. There were USA politicians wanting to put tariffs on goods shipped through Canada due to the competitive time advantage.

  • avatar
    Vulpine

    I just have one question: Who’s paying for it all?

    Think about how much fuel those trucks burn on a daily basis;
    Think about the maintenance that has to be performed per Federal Law;
    Think about the money the drivers themselves are losing because they’re not making manifest runs;
    Think about the cost of rent at the speedway, which is preventing any revenue from racing–will the track run the truckers off when racing season gets started in earnest?
    Think about the cost of food for all those people;

    In all, far more money is simply being wasted and lost as these people waste EVERYBODY’S time and only make DC drivers more angry as traffic is now worse than average throughout the day.

    The simple fact is that their protest is going nowhere; it’s literally running in circles over demands that, to a very great extent, had already been met before they even arrived!

  • avatar
    fendertweed

    Turdblossom festival….

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