By on January 31, 2022

With supply lines being of particular importance these days, truckers are leveraging their role to encourage government to see things their way. Canada’s Freedom Convoy reached Ottawa on Friday to demand officials end pandemic-related restrictions it believes are wreaking havoc on the economy and the protests have yet to stop.

While this all started with U.S. and Canadian truckers urging the government to abandon border restrictions that forced all drivers to be vaccinated and confirmed as COVID free (starting January 15th) or be forced to quarantine for 14 days, activists are now asking Ottawa to abandon all mandates or prepare itself for worsening disruptions to already ailing supply chains. They’ve since been joined by Australian truckers, who have formed the ‘Convoy to Canberra’ for similar reasons. Future demonstrations are also being prepared for the United States. 

Ottawa is now in day three of the Freedom Convoy protest. Demonstrators have been largely peaceful but truck blockades have made navigating parts of the city difficult, with local authorities still asking residents to avoid the downtown area. Ottawa Police have reported the opening of numerous investigations, though none pertain to direct acts of violence. Instead, they’re looking into a video clip of a woman dancing on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at the National War Memorial. Probes have also been launched into complaints issued about some of the signage used by demonstrators, citing the use of Nazi iconography. However, these were reportedly used to make direct and unfavorable comparisons between pandemic mandates and rules issued in 1930s Germany that resulted in making Jews second-class citizens shortly before the Holocaust.

Police also said they were looking into social media posts that could be construed as threatening. While Canada does have protections to freedom of expression, Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is less broad than the United States’ First Amendment, as it allows the government to set hard limits in regard to numerous categories — including hate speech, defamation, and general obscenity, among others.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau refused to meet with protestors over the weekend after suggesting they held “unacceptable views” and were a bigoted, fringe minority. He’s doubled down on his assessment of the Freedom Convoy since then, adding that he has also been infected with COVID-19 and would be in isolation all week.

“Freedom of expression, assembly and association are cornerstones of democracy, but Nazi symbolism, racist imagery and desecration of war memorials are not,” Trudeau stated.

“This is not the story of our pandemic, our country, our people,” he continued. “My focus is standing with Canadians and getting through this pandemic.”

But Canadians seem split on the matter. Candice Bergen, deputy leader of the Conservative Party, has publicly said that the trucking protest represented millions of people who “have had enough of lockdowns and broken promises.” But Jagmeet Singh, leader of the progressive New Democrats, said the protests were “completely wrong” on Monday.

In the United States, former President Donald Trump praised the truckers by stating that they are “defending freedom.” It’s also known that President Joe Biden has been urged to suspend the updated border protocols (specifically by Alberta Premier Jason Kenney). But the Biden administration has not made any formal statements about the matter in Ottawa.

Regardless of the alleged popularity or lack thereof, the Freedom Convoy’s GoFundMe page has gone from $5 million to over $9 million (Canadian) in just a few days. Though the organization previously said it would be holding funds, it now appears that truckers can use at least a portion of the money to pay for fuel and travel expenses. Organizers have said they’re well-positioned for now and hinted that protests will not be stopped until all mandates are lifted.

This poses severe logistical problems for North America. Despite the Canadian Trucking Alliance estimating around 80 percent of its drivers as being vaccinated (government estimates are higher at 90 percent), Freedom Convoy organizers have repeatedly suggested that a majority of supportive members fall into that category and simply oppose the formal restrictions being instituted. They’ve also said that the convoy has only grown in strength this month — estimating that Canada is risking losing 20 percent of long-haul drivers, plus a sizable number of vaccinated drivers who support the cause.

Similar protests are rumored to be in the works for the United States, with Canadian truckers again joining with U.S. teamsters to run another convoy between California and Washington D.C.

Australians, who have been protesting some of the strictest lockdown protocols in the English-speaking world, are likewise plotting to demonstrate. Trucks and cars have already started converging on Canberra to call for an end to pandemic-related restrictions, with GoFundMe again freezing $160,000 until organizers can outline exactly how it’ll be spent. Australian media has also described protestors even less favorably than Canadian outlets handled the Freedom Convoy, discouraging businesses from working with demonstrators.

As things currently stand, Australian Federal Police have rallied around the doors of the Parliament House after a group of protestors slit away to demand a dialog with government representatives. Like the Canadian protests, demonstrators carried flags indicating a state of emergency while chanting slogans like “freedom now.”

So there’s your update. Truckers all over the planet are now mobilizing against government mandates in a time when the world absolutely needs them to do their jobs better and more efficiently than ever before.

While the semiconductor shortage gets the most coverage, a severe lack of qualified drivers has contributed immensely to ongoing economic issues. Delivery delays are commonplace and former just-in-time supply chains are in relative shambles. Companies concerned with transport logistics are now desperate for employees and are offering sizable bonuses in North America. Many places will even pay to train applicants so they can be certified for vehicles/payloads that are in the direst need of drivers.

The Biden administration has even pitched a “Trucking Action Plan” that’s aimed at replacing aging truckers with fresh blood. Thus far, the U.S. Department of Transportation has set aside $30 million to help states expedite the issuance of commercial driver’s licenses. Additional initiatives include expanding apprenticeship programs, reaching out to veterans that may want to become truckers, and launching a hiring initiative that prioritizes “underrepresented communities.” But we’re still probably a year away from those plans yielding any useful fruit, which means the truckers we currently have are also all there is.

Considering at least 70 percent of all goods in North America are wholly dependent upon commercial trucking to reach their final destination, truckers have a lot of leverage that nobody seems to be acknowledging with any seriousness. An ongoing protest encompassing even a fraction of the already overtaxed community will not go unnoticed. Demonstrating truckers have already said border restrictions run the risk of spoiling food deliveries and delaying manufacturing, so they see little logistical difference between wasting two weeks quarantined at the border or spending that time protesting on the road.

There’s presently a blockade at the Canada-Montana border (Coutts crossing) with backups being estimated at over two kilometers long over the weekend. While the Canada Border Services Agency announced the border has remained open, they’re telling travelers to expect significant delays and to make their crossing elsewhere if possible. Premier Jason Kenney, who has been supportive of Canadian demonstrations in the past, seemed to suggest that the truckers were taking things too far and were in violation of the Alberta Traffic Safety Act. Meanwhile Coutts Mayor Jim Willett has said he’s heard demonstrators saying they’ve no plan to abandon their post anytime soon.

“I do not believe in the total concept of blocking an international port. I know for a fact we have produce trucks sitting on the other side of the border with the clock ticking on the guys that are driving it. They will start paying penalties because they have to deliver by a certain time,” he told the Canadian press on Sunday.

“You are going to start seeing the shortages that everybody talks about, they will be real. Because you have blocked the main link in the supply chain that comes from the south.”

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177 Comments on “Canadian Trucker Protests Continue, Aussies Launch ‘Convoy to Canberra’...”


  • avatar
    Imagefont

    Here we go again….
    Okay all you backward Covid denying trolls, you know who you are, now get started!
    Let’s hear all about how everything is Brandon’s fault and don’t forget Hillary and Obama too!
    And before I forget: BENGAZI!
    You guys are gluttons for punishment.

    • 0 avatar
      Matt Posky

      Let’s try to remain on topic, shall we?

      Based on the turnaround time of this comment, you couldn’t have even read the article.

      • 0 avatar
        Ol Shel

        The article somehow forgot to mention the Confederate flags and the defecating in public.

        But, I’m sure those Canadian truckers are just proud of their Southern Heritage.

        It’s totally not a race thing.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          “the Confederate flags”

          In Canada? Don’t even know where to begin there.

          • 0 avatar
            mikey

            Me neither !

          • 0 avatar
            thornmark

            >>“the Confederate flags”

            In Canada? Don’t even know where to begin there.<<

            it's the Leftists trying to discredit the rally – just like in the US – only the low info fall for it anymore

            remember, leftists can burn down and loot whole sections of cities and the orchestrated media will call it “peaceful”

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            If that turns out to be true they are only discrediting leftism by displaying how stupid its adherents are apparently. US Civil War relics have nothing to do with Canada and never will. Maybe they should add the Gadsden Flag and the US Revolutionary War flag too since they believe Canada is actually a part of the US.

        • 0 avatar
          Ol Shel

          Forgot to mention that they intentionally prevented people from receiving food aid. They stopped desperate people from eating.

          And I bet they identify as Christians.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Yeah that seems to be a pattern among jag offs:

            https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-police-charge-three-protesters-for-harassing-downtown-diners-during-civil-saturday/

            They were even fighting with cyclists.

          • 0 avatar
            macmcmacmac

            Wow Shel, project much? Christians and racists. But then, I repeat myself.

          • 0 avatar
            RHD

            The Russians are laughing hysterically and clapping each other on the backs, as they have once again instigated the gullible loons to create chaos in a democratic country.
            This does show how our economy is susceptible to quick ruin by a foreign force – either blockade 25% of trade with a few parked semis, or a quick military attack on the bridge in time of war, and very significant damage to two democratic countries has been accomplished.
            The international nature of truck-driving protesters shows that these are not domestic-oriented demonstrations. The internet-connected are being herded into movement together, while they keep repeating that they are not sheep.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          This protest has quickly been saturated by a “who’s who” of the alt- right in Canada. The 2 creators of the “Go Fund Me” belong to a western separatist party with ties to fringe groups with members being on record as being antisemitic, islamaphobic,and support armed rebellion with the aim to create a white supremacist country.

        • 0 avatar
          agcg

          Yeah, this is obviously about race. That makes soo much sense. It’s not like the confederate flag has ever been used as a symbol of resistance against real or perceived government overreach, or anything besides racism for that matter. That would be ridiculous! Good thing we all know now that those truckers are just racists and must be ignored at all costs.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @agcg – yeah right. A Mohawk Warrior flag (from the Oka Crisis) or the Metis Flag, or the Riel Rebellion flag would have been culturally relevant Canadian resistance flags.

            But that would take a certain degree of knowledge of Canada’s history and appreciation of oppressed groups in Canada. Notably non-white groups.

        • 0 avatar
          thornmark

          just leftists trying to discredit the rally, just like they do in the US

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @thornmark – bullsh!t. The Truckers have legitimate concerns but alt-right types have moved in. There’s plenty of evidence of that. Zero evidence of left wing agitators.

      • 0 avatar
        thornmark

        >>Based on the turnaround time of this comment, you couldn’t have even read the article.<<

        you nuked the troll

      • 0 avatar
        Lorenzo

        ON topic: while these truckers are protesting by convoy, they’re not delivering goods to stores. Expect a worsening of supply chain problems.

        • 0 avatar
          Matt Posky

          Totally. Demonstrating truckers have said as much and public officials have started to echo those warnings. I would also not be surprised to see factories begin referencing additional supply chain constraints in the coming weeks.

    • 0 avatar
      EBFlex

      No…we just want to go outside and live our lives. We want the lying and corrupt government to leave us alone. We will not submit to these authoritarian pieces of garbage.

      If that is how you want to live, you go right ahead. But just because you do doesn’t mean we want to.

      • 0 avatar
        Ol Shel

        Because you can’t take one minute to look up Authoritarian traits, I will do your work for you. Please try to tell me how this is not Trumpism:
        Blind allegiance to conventional beliefs about right and wrong
        Respect for submission to acknowledged authority
        Belief in aggression toward those who do not subscribe to conventional thinking, or who are different
        A negative view of people in general – i.e. the belief that people would all lie, cheat or steal if given the opportunity
        A need for strong leadership which displays uncompromising power
        A belief in simple answers and polemics – i.e. The media controls us all or The source of all our problems is the loss of morals these days.
        Resistance to creative, dangerous ideas. A black and white worldview.
        A tendency to project one’s own feelings of inadequacy, rage and fear onto a scapegoated group
        A preoccupation with violence and sex

        • 0 avatar
          NigelShiftright

          A little thought experiment:

          1. Imagine no truckers.
          2. Imagine no Canadian PM or Parliament.

          Which one is gonna be missed first?

          Another thought experiment:

          Faculty lounge versus the Teamsters.

          Place your bets.

          • 0 avatar
            hreardon

            Outstanding!

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Plot twist: the Teamsters become the new faculty lounge after they pummel the current occupants.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            I doubt there’d be too many teamsters in the group since they typically represent employees. An employee driving across Canada in someone’s truck who isn’t on the job is a thief.

          • 0 avatar
            mcs

            “Faculty lounge versus the Teamsters.” Like WTF are you talking about? You do realize that unions, including the Teamsters, have organized faculty and grad students at universities?

        • 0 avatar
          thornmark

          Elon Musk
          @elonmusk
          ·
          Jan 27
          Replying to
          @EvaFoxU
          and
          @POTUS
          Biden is a damp Sock puppet in human form

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      Good to finally see you’re getting it.

  • avatar
    redapple

    Nice Peterbilt 359.
    Rare

  • avatar
    Superdessucke

    https://youtu.be/Sd5ZLJWQmss

    Crank it up loud and proud! Drive on, truckers!

  • avatar
    jalop1991

    They should have just called themselves Chaz.

  • avatar
    Lou_BC

    “But Canadians seem split on the matter.”

    Split implies 50/50. You have hard statistics?

    Everyone is sick and tired of dealing with COVID – 19 but that is different that supporting cancelling all COVID – 19 measures.

    I support one’s right to peaceful protest but disagree with stopping all restrictions.

    If epidemiologists and other medical professionals who study this disease say it’s time to stop measures then I’ll review the data and rationale and jump on board. BC CDC has already said that they feel we are approaching a stage with Omicron that it will be best managed like influenza. The caveat being vaccination rates. In BC we have a dual vaccination rate over 90%.

    As far as disruptions to trade, the only protest disrupting trade is at one port on the Alberta border which is ironic considering Alberta is governed by a Conservative political party.

    • 0 avatar
      mcs

      @Lou: Just got an email about BA.2 being 1.5 times more contagious than BA.1. So, probably not the time to back off, although some locales are.

      Good news is that the vaccines are more effective against it than BA.1.

    • 0 avatar

      Lou, would you be willing to view a video of a round table meeting of notable doctors and clinicians if I sent you the link? I’m guessing I can’t just post it here, but if I can let me know. No worries either way. Thanks!

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        @THX1136 – post the link here or explain what to search for. I’ll look at it.

        • 0 avatar

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jMONZMuS2U&t=2s

          Thanks for taking a look, Lou.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @THX1136 – I’d have to professionally disagree with several of the individuals on the video and what they were saying. Every legitimate peer reviewed study I’ve read says ivermectin doesn’t work on COVID-19.

            One doctor claimed dexamethasone 8mg TID was too low a dose for treating COVID-19 ARDS. 1-2mg/kg is a typical starting point. Another was going on about a home patient and low oxygen levels. The patient responded to oxygen therapy which means they had minor disease.
            There were some valid points like how other illness was pushed to the side but that’s what happens when critical patients flood a healthcare system. One complained about the politicization of the COVID-19 response but they weren’t referring to the negatives from one’s like DRump. Other countries with a truly apolitical response have done much better than the USA.

  • avatar
    bts

    Over 90% of truckers are already vaccinated. The less than 10% who are taking part in this campaign will have no effect on the delivery of goods. The reason why some goods were having issues being transported across Canada recently was due to weather.

    These truckers are a loud minority and will not affect anything enough to make a difference. Good riddance to them.

    • 0 avatar
      Ol Shel

      Plus, they can’t enter the US without being vaccinated. They complain about not being able to get back into Canad, but they can’t even leave in order to get back.

      It’s just an adult tantrum.

      • 0 avatar
        RHD

        There is a quantity of gullible illiterate redneck idiots in Canada, just like in the US. Before long they will be prosecuted for the laws that they have violated and their rigs will be impounded. Peaceful assembly and legal redress of the citizens’ concerns are to be encouraged.
        These dumbasses are contravening laws left and right, and will cry foul when they have to pay the price for their poor planning and lack of respect for their country and their fellow citizens.

  • avatar
    ttacgreg

    I read a news article with some lengthy quotes from Trudeau. He made some very eloquent, powerful and rational points. The one that sticks was that 90+% of truckers are vaccinated (which have read elsewhere as well), so this whole kerfuffle is trumped up for a tiny hysterical selfish minority.

    In functioning democracies, majority votes and sentiments are accepted by minority sentments. In tyrannies, minorities rule.

    It is slightly comforting to know that we here in the USA have no monopoly on ignorant superstitious people who really deserve to be exported back in time to pre-Enlightement Europe.

  • avatar
    Mike-NB2

    To Lou’s point, I read an article in the Globe and Mail (national newspaper here in Canada) which quoted a member of the Conservative Party talking about Canadians being split on the issues of vaccinations and restrictions if you aren’t vaccinated. That’s untrue. Lou is right. Stats bear this out. My personal experience is that a vast majority are fed up with this small minority.

    A CBC article today told of hotel staff near the protest area being harassed and that most stores in the protest area closed to protect staff.

    I don’t know who in the US would have the same revered status as Terry Fox does here in Canada, but to use his statue during the protest certainly disappointed a lot of people.

    As a veteran of the Canadian Forces, the dancing on the War Memorial and especially standing on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier borders on unforgivable. The Tomb isn’t guarded usually because it’s just known that it’s a special place. I recall several years ago a young guy peed on it on his way back from a concert. There was no malice, just stupidity and I think he was cut SOME slack for it. I’m less inclined to cut an adult slack for this. But yeah, ‘adult’ in this context may be a bit of a stretch.

    But yeah, what Lou said. Opinions are most assuredly NOT split on this in Canada in the way that term implies.

  • avatar
    Margarets Dad

    Great, now tell me what this has to do with the car industry. The answer, of course, is nothing.

    Yawn.

    Anyway, this was all covered much better here: https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/anti-vaxx-truck-drivers-who-ve-died-from-covid

  • avatar
    dal20402

    It’s really sad that so many people are being taken in by unscrupulous grifters peddling disinformation for profit.

  • avatar
    jkross22

    That people are still lighting their hair on fire over this amazes me. It’s a protest. People are expressing their opinions. That’s what we’re supposed to do in a free society. Don’t like their opinion? Fine, but is it that difficult to be faced with opinions that differ from yours? Are people that fragile?

    “Trudeau refused to meet with protestors over the weekend after suggesting they held “unacceptable views” and were a bigoted”

    I don’t know much about Trudeau’s politics, but when you attempt to shut down discussion by calling people bigots, you lose any moral high ground you might have had. Funny how these politicians who ran on uniting are doing the exact opposite.

    • 0 avatar
      EBFlex

      Well, Lady Trudeau did kneel with BLM rioters (outside while wearing a mask lol) so clearly he’s not against unacceptable views and bigoted views. But then why wouldn’t you expect hypocrisy from a person who wore blackface.

      This is simply a 100% peaceful protest, yet the lady man fled like the coward he is. All because people have seen through the lies the government propagandists have fed us an dare calling them on it. Nothing has curbed the spread. Masks, vaccines, lockdowns, etc. They lied to us. They severely restricted us because of lies. Not science….lies.

      But they will say the science is settled. Their idea of settled science is banning people that are unvaccinated from a restaurant (because they can’t show their papers) but will welcome with open arms a covid positive person that can show their papers. What sense does that make?

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      @jkross22 – what would you call people who march with confederate and nazi flags at a Canadian “Freedom” rally?

      What would you call people who park vehicles on, dance on, and defecate upon the TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER?

      Isn’t that Tomb the symbol of the ultimate sacrifice one can make for freedom?

      If you were Trudeau, would you be inclined to meet with people with F^CK TRUDEAU signs?

      “Bigot” doesn’t quite cover it, don’t you think?

      and I’m NO fan of Mr. Performing Arts.

      One last point, public health and Healthcare is the exclusive domain of each province and territory. He has ZERO say. The division of power is clearly outlined in our constitution. The only power the Feds have is over international travel and federal agencies.

      • 0 avatar
        jkross22

        Lou,

        I live in LA. About 10 years ago, a minor earthquake shook the part of town I lived in, causing one of those brick windows to fall out of a nearby building and smash on the ground. There was no other physical damage in LA, but every local news van showed up with the same footage of the same broken brick window making it seem like the damage from the earthquake was more than it really was.

        I’ve seen the same thing happen but the other way in LA when the BLM protests occurred. Lots of coverage of peaceful protesters, but when all hell broke loose and the looting started and small businesses were ransacked, some coverage occurred locally, but nationally, it was a peaceful protest, mostly ignoring the extensive damage done.

        Much of the coverage of the damage to Portland was local during the nonsense that occurred there for over a month. Very little national coverage.

        We should all look at the media with at best a healthy dose of skepticism. They’ve showed us they can’t be trusted. Their coverage, or lack thereof, of events is part of a story they want to tell. If it doesn’t fit the narrative, it’s not shown. It’s that simple.

        Long way around to your point, but context matters….

        You can choose to believe that the majority of truckers are bigoted, disrespectful, horrendous people that defecated on the tomb of the unknown soldier. I’d guess that’s not the majority of them. It may not be any of them. The people that did that to the tomb of the unknown soldier should be arrested and prosecuted. Those people are scum. Just in the same way that people who spray painted over a Thomas Jefferson statue are scum.

        The majority of protestors are peaceful – BLM or otherwise – from what I’ve seen. Doesn’t matter the cause or the political persuasion.

        As for Trudeau acting like a petulant child in response to people telling him to f*** off, I’d say this – if his thin skinned nature is that sensitive, he should be doing another job. Maybe he could manage a warehouse full of boxes for Amazon.

        Politics is a tough gig. You have to work with people who hate your guts. Plus, I’m pretty sure it’s not the first time JT’s been told that. Even in Canada where you guys are the nicest people I’ve ever met. Even your border agents couldn’t have been nicer! Ours are complete a**holes.

        Think of how good JT would look talking with people, showing respect to people, who disagree with a policy he’s pushed. Being an adult. It’s a missed opportunity. We need leaders acting like leaders.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @jkross22 – you always provide valuable insights. Props.

          I do not believe that all Truckers are racist, bigoted et al. Ironically, several Truckers I know and had beers or coffee with are exactly that. These are guys I’ve known for most of my life. Other Truckers I know aren’t. My dad was a trucker. He was as tough and crusty as they come. In his elderly years he was the splitting image of Archie Bunker.

          I read a news article a short time ago where Truckers are now standing guard at the Cenotaph and are going out of their way to clean up. Good on them. A few bad apples spoil the barrel.

          Trudeau is playing tough guy to pander to his own base. Some are saying he has a bad case of COWARD – 19. I laughed hard at that one.

          I try to get my information from a variety of sources. Trust but verify.

      • 0 avatar
        thornmark

        >>what would you call people who march with confederate and nazi flags at a Canadian “Freedom” rally?<<

        Leftists trying to discredit the rally

        just like in the US

        works on people like you

  • avatar
    ajla

    I don’t usually comment on COVID posts , and I can’t really speak to the nuances of Canada, but I think the broad vaccine mandates were a bad move.

    I’m generally “anti stick” when it comes to policy and I think the Biden admin had the right idea early on by focusing vaccine efforts among local communities and with people that have relationship credibility. Yes, that might take some time, but I think we’d be in a better place now if they had kept that course.

    However, for one reason or another the federal government abandoned that strategy for a much more “pro stick” approach. And while that might have gunned things short-term (and frankly it seems like some people get off on it) I think it left us with an unnecessarily large group entrenched in *never* getting the shot.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      @ajla – Canada’s COVID-19 vaccine rate is 20 percentage points higher than that of the USA. There are obvious patterns along political affiliation in Canada but not as extreme as in the USA. Canada’s death rate from COVID-19 is 3x less than that of the USA when population is factored in. Unlike the USA, Canada does not have an excessively large group of anti-vaxxers. Some put it around 3% and others upwards of 9%.

      • 0 avatar
        thornmark

        the most unvaccinated by % in the US are those w/ the highest education level – PHDs

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          “THE FACTS: Researchers Robin Mejia at Carnegie-Mellon University and Wendy C. King of the University of Pittsburgh based their study of vaccine hesitancy rates off of results from a Facebook Data for Good survey, reviewing about 1 million responses each month between January and May and analyzing it by race, education, region and support of former President Donald Trump.”
          “We found that people basically used it to write in political … statements,” King said. “So they weren’t genuine responses. They didn’t really complete the survey in good faith.”

          They got that information from FACEBOOK.

          LOL

  • avatar
    CC

    The Australian protest has almost no trucks involved, and so far, even the most extreme reports have the numbers at less than a few thousand.
    It’s poorly organised, ill directed and doomed to fail, mainly because the Federal government, where it’s targeted has imposed almost no mandates at all. That has been done by the individual states, under the federation laws. Bearing in mind that Australia has a vaccination rate of over 93% and almost 40% of eligible people having had the booster (in just 2 months), it’s a vocal but very small minority, that most of the population are laughing at.

    • 0 avatar
      jkross22

      Why the effort to make it seem that it’s a small protest?

      How many people have been put in Covid internment camps in Australia? I bet they weren’t laughing.

      • 0 avatar
        CC

        It absolutely is a small protest, by the same small group of individuals who have been making noise in each state, just now some of them coming together in a misguided stunt.
        I don’t know what rubbish you’ve heard, but we don’t have any “Covid internment camps” in Australia, so actually there’s no-one to laugh, or not.
        And like it or not, with over 95% vaccinated, the anti-vaxxers are less than 5% of the population.

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          Whatever you say

          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59486285

          https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/20/world/australia/howard-springs-quarantine.html

          https://www.reddit.com/r/banned4life/comments/sexp5z/pfaithful_camp_guards_bravely_patrol_one_of/

          • 0 avatar
            CC

            LOL, if you think that quarantine facilities are “internment camps” you’re kidding yourself.
            Your lack of understanding of what’s happening in Australia means that there’s no point of any further reply.

  • avatar
    EBFlex

    Imagine being against freedom. Imagine being against the right to work. Imagine being against the ability to go to a restaurant.

    Imaging being a complete coward like the lady-man running Canada (who parades around in black face but that’s ok right?). You kneel with BLM rioters (while wearing a mask….outside), but yet you call an amazingly peaceful protest “violent” and say the spread “hateful rhetoric” while fleeing the area. All for a “small fringe minority”.

    It’s almost like the government lie to us in an effort to control us. When you look back at the covid cold, everything we were told was a lie. Masks work, vaccines stop the virus, 14 days to slow the spread, children are in grave danger from the covid cold. And now, Russia is behind the trucker protest in Canuckistan.

    But now, masks clearly don’t work (masked states have a higher covid cases than unmasked stated, the vaccine does nothing to prevent you from getting or spreading the covid cold, etc. As Rogan stated, 8 months ago, you would be kicked off social media for saying such things. Or if you are a co-inventor of mrna vaccines but you don’t repeat the propaganda, you are cancelled. They cancelled Robert Malone. This is unconscionable.

    Frankly the scariest people on this planet right now aren’t terrorists, Russians, Hillary Clinton. No, it’s these close minded sheep that blindly believe what the government tells them about the covid cold with absolutely zero critical thought. Reasonable skepticism is healthy but these people are no different than the propagandists the Nazis used or the propagandists in North Korea.

    The left has completely lost Bill Mahar. Bill Mahar is astoundingly liberal and he is fed up. What does that tell you?

    • 0 avatar
      CC

      Did you just list all of the buzz-words and then fill in sentences around them?

    • 0 avatar

      absolutely!

    • 0 avatar
      thornmark

      EBFlex
      excellent post

      too much actual real info for the uninformed trolls

      • 0 avatar
        CC

        Far too many wild inaccuracies to be bothered debunking every one individually.

      • 0 avatar
        EBFlex

        “ EBFlex
        excellent post

        too much actual real info for the uninformed trolls”

        Of course. Their group think brains cannot handle truth and reason.

        Triple vaxxed Trudeau demands truckers and others get vaccinated so they don’t get Covid….like he did. The irony is astounding.

        • 0 avatar
          Arthur Dailey

          Enjoy people quoting Joe Rogan regarding using pharmaceuticals. What about PEDs and HGH. Which are illegal to purchase and distribute in the USA. And therefore must be acquired illegally and whose manufacturer is therefore unknown. And therefore whose contents may be unknown. Yes, much better to use PEDs and HGH than to use vaccines. And then there is the matter of tattoos. Who has investigated what is in the ink, who manufactured the ink and how artists hygiene practices. It appears that there is minimal logic applied by Rogan and his disciples.

          • 0 avatar
            EBFlex

            Ah yes. Joe Rogan. The left’s new favorite punching bag simply because he has the audacity to ask questions and refuses to participate in group think.

            Oh and he was so irresponsible to interview one of the principal inventors of the mrna vaccine.

            JOE ROGAN MUST BE CANCELLED FOR THINKING FOR HIMSELF!

            Meanwhile you would rather quote politicians regarding pharmaceutical use. But not the one that are doctors like Rand Paul. You rather quote such great minds like Pelosi, Schumer, and AOC.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            @EBTovarich: Rand Paul is an ophthalmologist. Not someone with expertise in virology, immunology, or infectious disease control. Again willingness to gloss over facts.

            The Government of Canada publishes the pertinent statistics and research on an almost daily basis.

            And what you post has zero relationship to these verifiable statistics, research and analysis.

          • 0 avatar
            EBFlex

            “Rand Paul is an ophthalmologist. Not someone with expertise in virology, immunology, or infectious disease control. Again willingness to gloss over facts.”

            Yet here you are listening to people like Pelosi, Schumer, Deblasio, Cuomo, and Fauci. Dr. Paul clearly has more knowledge than Fauci as Fauci doesn’t even know what constitutes gain of function.

            “And what you post has zero relationship to these verifiable statistics, research and analysis.”

            Right. Because I post the truth based on history and fact. But you continue to act like every prediction and statement that was demonized as “misinformation” and has now come true didn’t occur. Must be nice to live a life of ignorance like that.

          • 0 avatar
            Matt Posky

            Flex, it would be a lot easier if you just agreed that the Canadian government is the one true light and pledged your never-ending allegiance to it. Thinking for yourself is a dead end. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

  • avatar
    mikey

    For the most part we are nice polite people ..We enjoy our Beer and Hockey….We tolerate and to some degree embrace our nasty winter months.

    This crap up in Ottawa is not us , and certainly not one of our better moments.

  • avatar
    NigelShiftright

    If there is one thing that the 21st century left absolutely cannot countenance or accept, it’s a working class protest.

    • 0 avatar
      Dan

      Same social puritans, same endless wars, same bankers with the same funny names, but just like that they all swapped uniforms.

    • 0 avatar
      slavuta

      There was a Russian revolution (2 actually) in 1917. Workers and farm workers guided by the left went into war against oppressing capitalists.
      Today same workers are fighting for the capitalism against oppressing left.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      Nothing wrong with protest. I fully support one’s right to peaceful protest.
      Any person of sound mind would not support those who defecate on a Soldier’s Tomb, and/or put your message on the statue of a selfless national hero, and/or march with nazi or confederate symbolism, and/or beat up a homeless man and force a soup kitchen for the homeless to feed you.

      • 0 avatar
        slavuta

        Lou
        Nazis and Canada
        https://forward.com/news/462694/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-canada/

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @slavuta – nothing new there. Your troll farm giving you briefings on Canada now?

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            My farm is better than yours. Putin can allocate you some land. You can also farm better, you nazi collaborator host.
            If you are so anti-nazi, why don’t you go there and break these monuments? you only good to comment here. What else you good for?

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            ‘My farm is better than yours.”

            @slavuto – I don’t believe the Canadian Government funds troll farms, but hey, nice to know that you believe your troll farm is one of the best.

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            Canadian government IS the farm of idiocy

      • 0 avatar
        Daniel J

        Of course, if this was Antifa, or even BLM desecrating a grave, that would actually be tame in comparison of the summer of love of 2020.

        The question is, even during occupy wall-street years ago, there is always going to be a bad actor.

        The most horrendous thing is how Tredeau’s comments of people who disagree with his government. He called these people racist and misogynist last year Now he says he’s disgusted by them. Geez, Trump was booted from office because he of how he spoke about BLM and Antifa.

        Could we as American’s accept a president that would speak for all Americans by saying that we as American’s were “disgusted” by a peaceful protest? I’m not talking about looting and burning here.

        Canada is Canada though.

  • avatar
    slavuta

    US truck convoy being organized. And Elon Musk gave them $45,000

  • avatar
    thornmark

    all the trolls above should read Musk’s absolutely wonderful twitter feed

    e.g.

    Elon Musk
    @elonmusk
    ·
    Jan 30
    Replying to
    @elonmusk
    and
    @aginnt
    Protesting in a Canadian winter shows real commitment!
    Elon Musk
    @elonmusk
    ·
    Jan 30
    Replying to
    @aginnt
    It would appear that the so-called “fringe minority” is actually the government

  • avatar
    olddavid

    I have been here in southern Alberta for almost three years keeping a promise I made to my 91 year old Mother to allow her the dignity to stay in her home. I am in the middle of what could be labelled as religious right wing conservatives who live a socialist lifestyle while decrying anyone who suggests they contribute to anything “social” that doesn’t originate with their cohort. They were thrilled that this was getting airplay – right up until their access to the only 24 hour border crossing in the province was clogged. Being a liberal in this atmosphere is amusing as I see the limitations they dogmatically impose on each other while making sure the community at large is safe, i.e., the food workers and health workers vaccinated as well as teachers, cops, etc. But do not mandate anything that smacks of government overreach! You can’t make this up. No one would believe.

  • avatar
    Skippity

    Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

  • avatar
    numike

    some people have waaaay to much time on their hands

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    So…almost 100 entries for Two Minutes’ Vaccine Hate, and 25 on the review of the high performance sedan that does 60 in less than four seconds that published the same day.

    Meanwhile, not surprisingly, no one’s mind is being changed about vaccines or vaccine mandates. Just an opportunity for us to call each other names.

    You know, I remember when this used to be a car site…novel idea, right?

    • 0 avatar
      Matt Posky

      Truckers are valid news, the vast ramifications this could have on already crippled supply chains is also worth mentioning, the topic falls within my regulatory wheelhouse, and most mainstream news sites aren’t covering it in much detail or with any real fairness. Only local outlets seem to be sharing anything from the truckers perspective or providing them with opportunities to speak for themselves. National outlets almost exclusively cite law enforcement and top-ranking politicians while habitually attempting to defame demonstrators.

      If the readers get worked up by this, that’s on them. They’re supposed to be adults capable of being presented with new information without throwing a digital hissy fit. I actually hate seeing these mandate posts get a lot of comments because it’s usually the same ten people shrieking over-and-over about how its an outrage the news even saw the light of day before the whole thing devolves into grade-school name calling. It makes them a chore to read and I frequently don’t bother after the first batch comes in. It kind of makes our shared dialog less valuable and I would imagine this is one reason why so many other outlets have taken away the comments section altogether. I don’t know, maybe we’ll bring back suspensions for abusive or totally off-topic commenters.

      I honestly would love for more people to change their minds on vaccine mandates and won’t pretend I don’t support the truckers. It would be great to see more readers say things like “Maybe the reason they’re protesting in an organized and peaceful manner is because they’re not monsters and have genuine grievances. Perhaps people should be able to live more freely and this mandatory health and wellness stuff hasn’t been as successful as promised.”

      But that’s not really the purpose of this article. This is just an update to show you the direction things have been heading with the convoy and to encourage you to look into the topic as objectively as possible before making up your own minds. I wish everyone luck in navigating through our divergent realities and varied states of arrested development.

      • 0 avatar
        ajla

        “Truckers are valid news”

        That seems like a stretch but I’m not the managing editor of the site and no one forces me to click these stories.

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          The Truth About Truckers might be an interesting site. Then again, it wouldn’t have nearly the bloodletting that occurred with the GM Deathwatch. Good times.

          And Mike, c’mon, you clicked on it.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        If you want current news that’s a lot more relevant to this audience, here’s a suggestion:

        https://www.seattletimes.com/business/us-road-deaths-rise-at-record-pace-as-risky-driving-persists/

        On pace for somewhere between 15% and 20% more road deaths per driver than we had just a few years ago, with the toll falling disproportionately on pedestrians and bicyclists. What was already our leading killer of healthy people and kids is suddenly getting much worse.

        • 0 avatar
          Matt Posky

          Our broader audience has been sharing it.

          You can expect something on crashes in the coming days as more data from 2021 is tabulated. Interestingly, accidental deaths appear to have been going up in general over the last couple years. Car accidents and suicides have both seen major jumps, though they pale in comparison to fatal drug overdoses.

      • 0 avatar
        jkross22

        “They’re supposed to be adults capable of being presented with new information without throwing a digital hissy fit.”

        Matt, most people can’t stand being told they might have been duped, so instead of self reflection and honest reassessment, we tend to dig in further, just mindlessly attacking and defending, as though information itself is somehow a threat.

        There’s a great book – The Scout Mindset – that should be required reading in high school. The author gave a Ted talk years ago, highlighting an example from the late 1800s of how the problem manifests.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @jkross22 – most people don’t approach a topic with an open mind. They don’t seek the truth, they seek validation of their beliefs. That’s why social media has contributed greatly to the political chasm that has formed. It’s easy to find validation and shared ideology. It’s hard to find forums where one interacts with those of differing view points. I don’t need or expect to have someone change my mind but I’m open to the possibility. Mutual respect comes from the exchange of opinions.

          • 0 avatar
            jkross22

            @Lou, I agree wholeheartedly. No one can change anyone else’s mind. We’re all too dug in. It’s like WWI trench warfare of the mind.

            The best we can hope for is introducing new perspectives that resonate with the person we disagree with and hope the seed grows. Or maybe even just reduce mistrust. Which would be a helluva thing to pull off right now.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        @Matt:
        Funny how the anti-mandate, anti-vax folks are perfectly fine with certain mandates, like the one that says that hospitals have to take them in and care for them no matter what. It’s the law. I don’t see them complaining about that mandate. And they shouldn’t – it’s basic human decency. But basic human decency also dictates we act in ways that literally don’t screw our society over, and I’m sorry – when you don’t get vaccinated, and get sick, that’s exactly what you’re doing. And then we have to save their a**es. Any wonder why people are resentful about this? It’s no big mystery. It’s the same reason people who work hard and pay their taxes get resentful about people living off the public dole.

        Seems to me this isn’t about mandates – it’s about wanting it their way, no matter what. So they refuse to get vaccinated, and when they get sick, they clog up hospitals and soak up the resources that we all depend on. Little Timmy has a compound fracture in his arm because a drunk driver T-boned Mommy’s car? Too bad, kid…Annie the Anti-Vaxxer can’t breathe, so you get to wait a bit longer.

        (And if you don’t think this is happening, call my girlfriend, who works at a hospital – it most certainly IS happening.)

        The lesson here has nothing to do with freedom – it’s really about the fact that America has become too selfish to give a s**t about civic responsibility. If these folks were responsible, they’d be getting vaccinated, period. The mistake the government made was assuming they’d be responsible in the first place, and then assuming that they could force them to be responsible. Well, that failed, of course. And if you’ve ever tried to confront someone with their irresponsibility, you know their first reaction will be a big, fat “fu*k you,” which is EXACTLY what the Death Before Mandates folks are doing.

        So, yeah, vaccine mandates don’t make sense because you can’t force people to get them. But the point we’re all missing is that the government shouldn’t have had to have gone that route in the first place.

        Hell, maybe the Moral Majority-types had a point.

        Without civic responsibility, freedom becomes little more than
        an exercise in me-first, screw-you narcissism. Is it any wonder that this is how our political system looks these days? Nope.

        So ponder that as you consider whether the mandates were proper or not.

        • 0 avatar
          Matt Posky

          Civic responsibility is typically tied to cultural norms, not government decree. And in free societies it’s always the people that determine what the government does, not the other way round. We wouldn’t see mass protests taking place around the world if regular people felt forced vaccinations and carrying around the relevant papers constituted normal civic responsibilities.

          Governments never had to go the route of mandates. Compliance was relatively high in most developed countries before mandates began and trying to get 100 percent compliance is a fool’s errand. It’s unprecedented and will never happen. So I don’t see the point of continuing to inconvenience all citizens unless this is about compliance, rather than our collective wellbeing. Whatever purposes the vaccines served in the past with the older strains seem to have dissolved and the money-grubbing nature of pharma-sponsored media companies and rampant political corruption of our leaders is on full display.

          Letting Big Pharma steer the ship for much of the journey was a mistake. Trusting that governments wouldn’t abuse their power in a state of emergency was a mistake. There was even a brief period where I thought “Well, two weeks isn’t so bad while they rush to get a handle on whatever this is.”

          That was a mistake and I’m never going to make one like it again.

          Nothing about what the protestors are doing prohibits people from getting vaccinated and exercising to ensure they’re in peak physical health. It doesn’t keep individuals from working remotely or opting to stay home if they’re worried about getting infected. All they want is lessened government control (like before 2020) and smoother operations at border crossings. They want to avoid creating a social caste system based on how many freedoms a person is willing to give away.

          I think a lot of people are unknowingly in the wrong here and I believe history will make monsters out of those who applauded lockdowns and mandates. People can share whatever beliefs they want and live as they see fit. But that doesn’t mean everyone else has to care or follow along. Everyone has a friend or relative in the medial or scientific communities. Everyone has an anecdote about how good/bad the situation on the ground actually is. None of it matters anymore.

          The imposition on regular people has become too great. The rules have become draconian and blatantly unproductive. If there are people that cannot see that by now, they have my pity. But they’ve lost my respect and I’m not going to entertain their fantasies any longer. It’s time for everyone to take a serious look around at the realities of this situation and begin acting like adults, instead of demanding the government be our dysfunctional parent.

          Regardless of what we all want individually, these truckers aren’t messing around. Supply shortages are already an issue and a prolonged trucking strike, even one that comprises a fraction of the whole, will have severe ramifications. If you want to keep vaccine mandates and COVID passports, you’re welcome to keep asking for them. I just hope you’re ready for empty shelves and an opposition that’s slowly realizing that compromise hasn’t worked in its favor.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            “Everyone has a friend or relative in the medial or scientific communities. Everyone has an anecdote about how good/bad the situation on the ground actually is. None of it matters anymore.”

            In other words, what everyone thinks is irrelevant, and only your anecdotes – like “Big Pharma Bad” – are the relevant ones. Presumably Big Pharma is good when it cures stuff like dandruff, high blood pressure, brain cancer, or a limp dick, but when it comes to COVID, it’s bad.

            Okay…

            And maybe you’re right – this was all the government’s way of trying to save us from ourselves, and it didn’t work. But if they’d done nothing, or too little, the same folks who say the government sucks because of vaccine mandates would be saying the government sucks because it didn’t do anything about COVID. Why? Because the political zeitgeist of folks like this is “government sucks,” and it’d suck no matter what it did.

          • 0 avatar
            mcs

            “The imposition on regular people has become too great”

            No it’s not. Masks aren’t difficult to wear and the vaccine only takes a few minutes to get and has been proven effective.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Incorrect sir, but feel free to fill up your body with whatever you like.

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          @Mike,

          “So, yeah, vaccine mandates don’t make sense because you can’t force people to get them. But the point we’re all missing is that the government shouldn’t have had to have gone that route in the first place.”

          Right. Why do you think people didn’t just listen, or put another way, do what they were told was necessary? Is it the concept of citizenship not being instilled? Lack of trust in leaders/companies? Did the leaders we elect pick the right people to lead in public health?

          Our cultural DNA is to not trust the government. How can this thinking evolve to better balance citizenship/trust and skepticism? Maybe trust is something we should be factoring in to who we vote for now that we’ve seen the damage that can be done. As we tell our kids, trust is earned.

          All good leaders are trusted in a broad sense. Can you name one effective leader in the federal government? I can. But I can only think of one and she’s not in public health. Isn’t that the bigger problem?

        • 0 avatar
          thornmark

          totally wrong on all counts

          the science for mandates was never there – the shots did not work as vaccines as they did not stop the spread or confer immunity as promised

          Fauci is at best a screwup, just as he was w/ AIDS

          wonder why PHDs have been the least likely to take the jabs

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @thornmark – still trolling. I replied to your PhD comment. It was a flawed Facebook based study.

            The science has always been there.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    @Posky

    I just read a claim that Carvana and Vroom, the people paying well over market for anything with four wheels, are heavy in subprime. Thus they are directly responsible for this madness, if true I feel as if this is a journalistic opportunity ya know?

    • 0 avatar
      Matt Posky

      Worth some probing to be sure. Dealers are definitely making out like bandits right now unless they’re particularly small or exceptionally honest and kind to their customers.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        In my view the indy dealers are as much victims of this as the customers. New car dealers generate the trades which end up at auction for the indys (and new dealers) to purchase but if some outfit is paying above market then there are no trades to new or used dealers (similar to what CarMax was doing with its auctions). Adding insult to injury, Carvana et al is apparently selling subprime loans as junk paper to I suppose Wall Street criminals (this is the JD Byrider model). Essentially its 2008 but with car loan junk bonds, and everybody everywhere is paying for it.

  • avatar
    Arthur Dailey

    Per capita COVID death rates (as of this past weekend) among comparable 1st and 2nd world nations. Some are islands, others are not ‘democratic’ and therefore have instituted more severe government restrictions.

    Objectively these numbers reveal just how badly the governments of or the policies (or lack thereof) in the USA, the UK and Sweden have performed in their primary task of protecting the health and safety of their residents/citizens. The UK in comparison to other European and other island nations. Sweden in comparison to other Baltic nations. The USA in comparison to any other ‘advanced’ nation. And these nations with high per capita death rates have not performed markedly better economically.

    So objective verifiable evidence of the impact of government interventions in reducing/preventing COVID related deaths.

    USA 2,655
    UK 2,283
    Russia 2,220
    Spain 1,983
    France 1,935
    Sweden 1,560
    Germany 1,403
    Ireland 1,231
    Canada 883
    Denmark 639
    Finland 350
    Norway 263
    Singapore 156
    Japan 148
    Australia 144
    S. Korea 131
    Iceland 124
    Taiwan 35
    New Zealand 10

    • 0 avatar
      slavuta

      I suggest to dump these counts. They all most likely false. One way or another. In US they are overblown. In Japan most likely under-reported.

    • 0 avatar
      Daniel J

      And how many countries have a population with the comorbidities of the populous of the united states? How much of the population over 65? How is the reporting of deaths counted? I mean Sweden took a “Florida” approach and they still had less deaths.

      NY had a much stricter policy than Florida but their deaths are basically the same per capita. Just by those metrics alone, it doesn’t seem that restrictions worked.

  • avatar
    Arthur Dailey

    Numbers provided by the ‘protesters’ are absolutely misleading. Proven with actual evidence of how much road space would be required if there actual numbers were anywhere near the truth.

    Reasonable figures provided by multiple sources are that there are now less than 3,000 protesters in Ottawa. With far less than half of them being actual ‘truckers’. Estimates of a few hundred tractors on-site at the protest. Compared to the 600,000 commercial trucks on the road in Canada.

    Aerial pictures of the Parliament Hill area confirm this. Compare the aerial pictures of the protest to those of the annual Canada Day celebrations and it is easy to discern just how small the protest crowd is in comparison.

  • avatar
    SaulTigh

    Glad to see there are still people with some stones out there and willing to protest for freedom.

    I’ve been well stocked up since Feb 2020 and welcome this spreading to the United States. The young lefties and coastal elite aren’t going to see the error of their ways until they can’t get Amazon deliveries or gourmet meals via Door Dash.

  • avatar
    Art Vandelay

    Lol…this whole thread is pretty much all Canadians using a protest in Canada with Canadians using racist symbols to label Americans as ineffective on Covid and Racists. We don’t care about your little protest. I don’t understand why the Canadian contingent on this site is so into our politics. It is strange. I barely remember you guys are up there usually.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      @Art Vandelay – politics in the USA affects Canada. The USA media permeates Canadian air waves so it’s next to impossible to ignore. The USA Covid response and death rates gets compared to the Canadian response and death rates because of many similarities in population, healthcare, and beliefs. Many if not most of the anti-Covid rhetoric is identical to the USA. Much of the rhetoric actually originated in the USA.
      In the case of truckers protesting vaccine mandates and restrictions, they are protesting a cross-border i.e. international situation since both sides have the same mandate.

      • 0 avatar
        Arthur Dailey

        Don’t forget all of the firearms purchased legally in the USA them smuggled into Canada and used to commit crimes. We might even call the USA a terrorist state for allowing the export of crime/violence into Canada.

        And yes there have been American style signage used in the ‘protest’. Confederate flags, a Don’t Tread on Me flag, numerous MAGA hats, etc.

    • 0 avatar
      slavuta

      Because their CBC and politicians carbon copy what is going here.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        “Because their CBC and politicians carbon copy what is going here”

        Trudeau is copying Putin? Well, none of the protest leaders have died mysteriously in the night and no one was fogged with Novichok.

        What’s the name of Russia’s state media? They film that infamous pee tape?

  • avatar
    Skippity

    What’s her number?

  • avatar
    ToolGuy

    Thankfully Justin Trudeau and his family have been vaccinated and will never catch COVID.

  • avatar
    johnnyz

    Freedom over Tyranny! F Biden f trudeau.

  • avatar
    zipper69

    I guess it doesn’t occur to these pinheads that their actions are spurring on research and development of DRIVERLESS trucks?

    Still, at least the unemployed Canadian truckers will have a social system that will keep them from living on the streets, the Americans, not so much.

  • avatar
    macmcmacmac

    Well, I guess I’ve reached the point where I reluctantly conclude the truth has been rendered unknowable. People will gather facts like Lego and piece together whatever narrative suits their prejudices.

    I work in Ottawa every day, and lived there for 17 years. I heard absolutely nothing about anyone defecating on the tomb of the unknown soldier.

    Whenever I hear talk of swastikas I immediately assume agitprop.

    My rule of thumb, swastikas confederate flags, bullshit level defcon 1. If not, the likelihood of them being used as a form of protest, i.e., comparing government mandates to totalitarian behavior seems to be a far more plausible explanation. Not that it matters since it seems some will take to their fainting couch at the very sight of either.

    There is a history of undercover cops causing trouble to create the necessary justification to drop the hammer. They did it in Montebello a few years ago when masked “anarchists” started vandalizing stores so the police had to intervene and break up the demonstration. Oddly enough, the anarchists’ all had the same police issue boots. I am assuming they have learned from that and mixed it up a bit this time.

    Maybe I’m just jaded, what with all those babies being pulled from incubators and stuff. People on all sides are far too credulous.

    “Trust the science!” . Ok, as far as it goes. You would have to ignore the heavy layer of politics layered on top of it though. Don’t underestimate the willingness for pols to overlook a lot just to be seen to be doing something. Complete indemnity for the pharmaceutical companies and 75 years before the FDA has to disclose all of the data it relied upon to license Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine? Sure, JUST STICK IT IN MY VEINS! After all, there has never been any drug brought to market that has caused people problems has there? Trust us, or else say goodbye to your job, your pension, your house. Welcome back to the job market in your mid 50s sucker. I guess I’d rather be dead than poor again, so I’ll just ignore the heart palpitations and searing chest pains like I had with pericarditis a few years ago. I absolutely DO NOT want the booster, but I’m sure I’ll get the same Don Corleone offer I can’t refuse in another few months. Mentioning that to friends gets a sarcastic response that “No one cares about your pathetic little protest.” Fine man, your opinion hasn’t taken on the flavour of religious zealotry…at…all….

    The booster robo-calls from the Chief Medical Officer are a bit creepy. Here I thought those letters from the regional health authority wanting a stool sample when I tuned 50 were bad…

    As far as the truckers go, they are sort of like the dog who caught the car. What now? I’m thinking the government has a wee bit greater capacity for holding out. It was a fine gesture. I guess their biggest crime was having a firmly held contrary opinion in Canada. They will succeed in pissing off a lot of people whose daily routine has been completely disrupted, probably not much else. I’m thinking it will end more in a whimper than a bang. Everyone on all sides will be disgusted with the outcome whatever happens.

    Biggest takeaways, no other profession has fallen as far, as fast, as journalism. Watching the local CBC host implying that Russian influence may be behind these disruptions nearly made me do a spit take. The CBC should be entrusted with broadcasting hockey games and the weather and nothing else. I’d probably still have to keep looking out the window though, just to check the sky.

    PM Trudeau is unqualified to lead. A name can only take you so far.

    1/3 of a trillion dollars has been spent in 2 years. That’s going to leave a mark. Trudeau has signaled on several occasions that economic issues are of relatively little importance to him. Should get interesting.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      Interesting rebuttal.

      Ever think that some protesters who want to cause trouble are going to wear similar or the same garb as police anti-riot squads? There’s a reason why some groups call themselves paramilitary.

      I do agree that the CBC isn’t all that good. There are many other sources of news though.

      I also agree that Performing Arts Pretty Boy is a sh!t Prime Minister.

      Was your pericarditis vaccine related? I personally don’t know of anyone who’s had serious side effects.

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    macmcmacmac

    “As usual for security forces, top SQ officials initially categorically denied that the three men in question were policemen. But after the video was posted to YouTube.com (to see the video, click on Stop SPP Protest – Union Leader stops provocateurs), the SQ was forced to admit that the men are indeed SQ cops.”

    So, yes, they were indeed cops.

    As far as my symptoms go, I’ll freely admit it might be a coincidence, since any condition has to have a beginning. It all might be just unfortunate timing. Maybe I’m just loathe to admit that at 54 the long goodbye may be starting. Still, I have doubts, and being told I must put something in my body or lose everything I have worked 30 years for has firmly underlined where the limit of personal autonomy lies, at least in the government’s opinion. I don’t like it one bit.

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      Lou_BC

      Myocarditis(inflammation of heart muscle) is very rare with vaccines. Pericarditis (inflammation of outer lining/sack) from what I’ve read is even more rare. Most cases resolved without treatment. Interestingly, it is an expected side effect of mRNA vaccines.
      https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/ncov/vaccines/2021/11/myocarditis-pericarditis-mrna-vaccines.pdf?sc_lang=en

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      Lou_BC

      I looked up the case you mentioned. Obviously the Quebec police stated that they were undercover officers spying on protesters as opposed to government agitators. They were exonerated in one review but were then ordered to stand before a different ethics panel.

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