By on May 29, 2019

2020 Toyota Supra – Image: Toyota Canada“You only produce one car less than the demand for the vehicle,” the late Sergio Marchionne said of Ferrari’s founding marketplace strategy. Of course, that translates to thousands more cars per year than it did in decades past. But Ferrari remains largely committed to that principle.

Now, in Ferrari-like language, Toyota says, “We’re operating on the basis that it’s better to have one too few than far too many,” when it comes to the new Supra.

Toyota spokesperson Nancy Hubbell revealed to TTAC early sales goals for the fifth-generation Supra that are distinctly tempered compared with the lofty expectations Toyota divulged the last time it launched a high-end coupe.

2020 Toyota Supra rear - Image: Toyota CanadaFollowers of premium two-doors will recall that Toyota initially hoped to sell 400 copies of the Lexus LC per month in the United States. 4,800 sales per month for the $90K+ Lexus would have put it well ahead of virtually every competitor aside from the all-conquering Porsche 911.

But in its first full calendar year on the market, Toyota reported only 165 Lexus LC sales per month in the U.S., 59 percent short of the company’s goal. Instead of outselling competitors, the LC was easily outsold by vehicles such as the BMW 6 Series, Jaguar F-Type, and Mercedes-Benz SL. The Porsche 911 sold five times as often.

In the LC’s case, Lexus was falling back on a handful of reasons. The company believed that the brand’s strength in the U.S. – where basically half of all Lexus vehicles are sold – would drive LC demand. Lexus also believed that the LC’s affiliation with the LF-LC concept forerunner would pay dividends. And consumer clinics suggested the LC wouldn’t just steal sales from the 6 Series, SL, and F-Type, but also Aston Martin and Maserati.2020 Toyota Supra interior - Image: ToyotaWhether Toyota learned its lesson after the LC failed to win hearts and minds, or whether the more focused nature of the Supra as a sports car inherently alters the demand picture, Toyota’s stated sales expectations for the $49,990 Supra are clearly more modest.

“We’re focused on the first 1,500 Launch Editions for this year,” Hubbell says, “and will adjust supply based on demand.” (The Launch Edition is priced from $55,250.)

1,500 sales in the second half of 2019 would translate to around 250 Supras per month.

Granted, it’s fair to conclude Toyota’s stated expectation represents a healthy dose of false modesty. After all, the Launch Edition is only one of three Supra models – there are 3.0 and 3.0 Premium versions, as well. Such models wouldn’t exist for the first model year if Toyota had no intention of selling any.

But it’s also fair to conclude that, this time, Toyota’s analysis of the sports car market provides no room for overconfidence. In 2018, declining year-over-year U.S. sales were reported by the Alfa Romeo 4C, Audi TT, BMW 2 Series and 4 Series; Chevrolet Camaro and Corvette; Fiat 124 Spider; Ford Mustang; Jaguar F-Type, Lexus RC; Mazda MX-5 Miata; Mercedes-Benz AMG GT, SL-Class and SLC-Class; Nissan GT-R and 370Z; Subaru BRZ, and Toyota 86.

You get the picture. These aren’t friendly times for sporting vehicles.

The Toyota Supra is finally returning, but it returns only to fight its rivals over a small slice of a shrinking pie.

[Images: Toyota]

Timothy Cain is a contributing analyst at The Truth About Cars and Driving.ca and the founder and former editor of GoodCarBadCar.net. Follow on Twitter @timcaincars and Instagram.

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13 Comments on “Unlike Toyota’s Unrealistic Lexus LC Sales Expectations, Toyota Supra Sales Goals Are Downright Sensible...”


  • avatar
    ToddAtlasF1

    I know for a fact that Toyota killed at least one LC500 sale by product placing it in an SJW comic book movie. That would have been a stupid move even by GM standards.

    • 0 avatar
      John R

      Can you show us your evidence?

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        The LC was T’Challa’s ride in “Black Panther,” though he used it more like a skateboard. I’m sure the sight of an super-powered African guy with a nano-suit riding a Lexus like a skateboard triggered all the Francises out there who just refuse to lighten the f**k up.

        I suppose this means I have to cancel my CTS-V order…after all, if Trump rocks a Caddy, no way I ever would.

    • 0 avatar
      oldirtybootz

      I’d assume you’re referring to yourself, if so I’d imagine it’s a loss they wont miss.

  • avatar
    SPPPP

    In my opinion (from afar), the Lexus LC deserves a much bigger slice of that pie than it currently gets. There are 3 things I think may be holding it back:

    – Existing foot traffic in Lexus dealerships may be of a different sort of buyer
    – Lack of advertising isn’t bringing in the new buyers
    – No convertible option. You bought a $95,000 car, this is splurge time.

    • 0 avatar
      bd2

      Lexus has been struggling to sell their higher-end (RWD) models.

      Sales of the still relatively new LS 500 have fallen below 50% of their rather modest sales goal of 1k/month and sales of the GS have fallen below that of the Q70.

      Think about that – the Infiniti Q70 now outsells the GS.

      Lexus is basically becoming a brand that mostly sells FWD CUVs and the ES (not just here, but worldwide).

  • avatar
    John R

    I feel like the 370z and Lexus RC are probably the ones that will be hurt most by the Supra’s return. Maybe some BMW M2/4 intenders will cross-shop.

  • avatar
    JMII

    Given the Supra’s price I’m not sure 370Z buyers are looking at it. The NISMO is within $5K but base Z’s are $20K cheaper. However both cars occupy the odd middle group of not having V8 power but also not being lightweight track focused vehicles. All the Supra’s numbers put in base Corvette land. While the HP is lower based on reports it runs similar 0-60 times. Thus it seems the 335 HP is under-rated and is closer to the 380+ BMW claims for the Z4.

    • 0 avatar
      skunkers21

      I’d wager there are some potential Z-buyers considering the Supra simply on the basis of the Z not being updated in so long. The thing is practically antique now. A lot of people who could afford a $30K+ weekend car a decade ago can likely afford a Supra now. I agree it’s gonna be interesting how this thing sells because *on paper* it sounds potentially under-powered for the money. But the tests certainly show it’s substantially underrated.

  • avatar
    ajla

    Sounds like big dealer markups on the way.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    Worth noting: far as I know, sales of ALL high-end luxury coupes have pretty much flatlined, so I don’t know who Lexus figured was lining up for the LC.

    Damn, it’s a lovely beast, though.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    I’ve seen the LC in the flesh… it’s a shame it doesn’t sell because it is achingly gorgeous and brimming with presence. It’s a car we claim to want but really don’t deserve.

  • avatar
    stuki

    I’m guessing, or at least hoping, this is just marketing speak. Nothing is more destructive of quality, and value for money paid by the customer, than artificially constraining supply of a product.

    Selling “exclusivity” may be an easy way to skim some easy money off toffs and fanbois. Fine if you are a basketball club selling hats, or a race team selling road cars. But it’s a poor reflection on a company with a reputation for engineering excellence, efficient production processes, and giving the customer more than he paid for, the likes of Toyota.


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