By on April 4, 2016

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Last week, I asked the B&B if this Civic-ramming incident was malicious or merely idiotic. No such question could possibly be raised about what you’re about to see. This video has it all: the stereotypical “Florida Man” (or possibly “Georgia Man”) in full assault mode, some of the most hellaciously dangerous motorcycling you’ll ever see, and plenty of Michael-Bay-movie-in-real-life swerving into oncoming traffic.

The best part, however, is how a fellow behind the wheel of a motorcycle that is literally faster than a Ferrari 599 Fiorano can’t quite escape the murderous attentions of … a previous-generation Ford Fusion.

Somebody sign that guy up for NASCAR!


Even if you have no interest in watching cray-cray hillbilly road action, the motorcyclist’s actions are worthwhile from the perspective of how people react under stress. I strongly suspect that he’s still following the route he intended to follow to work or school or whatever despite the madman in the 3,800-pound car trying to kill him. Time and time again he has a safe escape route that he doesn’t take because it’s not on his predetermined path.

He’s also piloting a vehicle that could effortlessly shed a Ford Fusion, even one driven by a maniac, but he’s unable to effectively use that speed advantage to escape the situation. And when the Florida Man™ pulls up next to him, he decides that the best course to take is to have a screaming match that neither of them can understand.

What’s missing from the tape, of course, is whatever the rider did in the first place to make the driver so angry. I can tell you what I’d have done in the same situation: pulled over, drawn my Cold Steel Recon Tanto, and let the driver decide if he wants to scrap it out with an armored person holding a knife. I figure that if the guy had a gun, he’d have drawn it at some prior point in the chase. Best to walk into a convenience store or fast-food restaurant and deprive the guy of the chance to kill you with America’s deadliest weapon: the automobile.

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146 Comments on “Start Your Monday off Right with Some of the Least Intelligent Driving Ever Witnessed...”


  • avatar
    FreedMike

    “I can tell you what I’d have done in the same situation: pulled over, drawn my Cold Steel Recon Tanto…”

    Sounds like a good way to get shot…or end up with a cop on your front doorstep to question you about the incident.

    Best to defuse things before deadly weapons are involved.

    • 0 avatar
      SlowMyke

      As far as the police go, YouTube will catch their attention just as well as waiving a knife around.

      I do agree with you 100% that the situation should have been diffused immediately. The road is no place for a dick-wagging contest. Both of those people should lose their licenses indefinitely.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      A knife wielding individual has an advantage over a fellow with a gun as long as the dude with the gun doesn’t have it in hand. You have to be over 20 feet away to draw your gun and shoot if you stand a chance of surviving an edged weapon attack. Sobering thought if you think a handgun is superior in closed quarters combat.

      • 0 avatar
        Hurf

        “A knife wielding individual has an advantage over a fellow with a gun as long as the dude with the gun doesn’t have it in hand. You have to be over 20 feet away to draw your gun and shoot if you stand a chance of surviving an edged weapon attack. Sobering thought if you think a handgun is superior in closed quarters combat.”

        uh huh

        https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=9wzAGE4quWU

        • 0 avatar
          SayHiToYourMom

          Yeah that guy just talking is really going to convince people. Here’s actual cops demonstrating safe distance from a knife. It’s 21-feet.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            The RCMP treat edged weapons no different than guns. Any assailant with a knife gets within a 30 ft radius they will draw their firearms. 20 feet and closing means you have to be as quick as a wild west gunfighter to keep from getting cut.

    • 0 avatar
      JustPassinThru

      As a lawfully-armed American and a motorcyclist, I will say this:

      When you pull a gun on someone…YOU LOSE.

      You’ve just escalated the situation. Someone will now AT THE LEAST, spend hours with police officers; probably be charged with assault with a deadly weapon.

      That’s if you’re lucky. Things can only get worse; with someone dead and someone else either charged with capital murder or in prison for a long, long time.

      I have had a few crazies come after me that way…while on two wheels or four. Just had one two days ago, with a contract employee for a state road project. Dove in front of me around the barrels, while I and all traffic were going 55. Got angry I DARED flash my brights at him while he was cutting me off. Dynamited the brakes, and then the genius, with his Knife River truck with a number on it, dynamited HIS brakes and then stomped on the throttle to spin rocks up against my grille (my 17-year-old Toyota truck, gee!).

      Pot use and general emotional immaturity is what I chalk it down to.

      Fleeing a crazy is not worth risking getting creamed in traffic, either. Find a public place where there’s likely to be witnesses or cameras and park. Let the sh!thead come after you there. You may get a punch. He’ll get a year in county lockup…go in a Tight End but come out a Wide Receiver.

      I’d rather take a couple of punches, myself.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    This video makes me feel as if I am playing Grand Theft Auto or The Getaway.

    I’m not sure what the beef was, but the motorcycle driver in the first few seconds drives in between two lanes of traffic. Not sure of the legality of such a move, but he endangered himself while doing it and if something unexpected had happened during the maneuver (such as a car on the left accelerating and switching lanes) the driver would be found at least partially at fault when it fact it would be 100% on the motorcycle driver. I have nothing but respect for motorcycle drivers but you have to drive safely and keep up with traffic (also, driving into an oncoming lane). This is just as bad as the cyclists who want to ride on 45 mph roads. Some sanity please dot gov.

    Additional: This man was on a sport bike, he never thought to simply get off the main road to avoid the Fusion and call the police?

    • 0 avatar
      Pch101

      Lane splitting is illegal in the US except for in California.

      I don’t ride — I value my life — but I’m all in favor of legalizing it within reason, and have no empathy for the drivers who are agitated by the concept. However, this is a federal republic and it’s up to each state to set policy about this sort of thing.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        Thanks for the info, how such a thing being legal impacts negligence assignment in the State of CA would be an interesting read.

        • 0 avatar
          stottpie

          Basically a lane-splitting motorcycle is virtually always at fault for any accident or liability. You do it at your own risk and without any protection.

        • 0 avatar
          burgersandbeer

          Further complicating the issue in CA is lane splitting isn’t explicitly legal either; there is no law regarding lane splitting, you are simply expected to behave like adults. I’m guessing both parties would share fault in an accident.

          https ://www.dmv.ca.gov /portal/dmv/detail/about/lane_splitting

    • 0 avatar
      JimZ

      “Additional: This man was on a sport bike, he never thought to simply get off the main road to avoid the Fusion and call the police?”

      I think you’re being generous when you use the word “man.” Your average sportbike rider is anything but.

      • 0 avatar
        IHateCars

        “I think you’re being generous when you use the word “man.” Your average sportbike rider is anything but.”

        Quite a laughable statement when the average cruiser/Harley Rider thinks that they are a “Sons of Anarchy” extra. The fact is that there are idiots in every segment of riders. Squids shouldn’t be riding anything…period.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      The guy on the bike is a squid. All he’d have to do is accelerate hard and gain enough lead to brake hard onto a side road or path. The other option would be to reverse direction on the car.

      Both individuals in the video are idiots. Darwin smiled on them that day.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      A cyclist this very morning was holding up traffic as he toodled along during the 8:30AM rush hour on a four lane main road, with 35mph speed limit. He rode in the middle of the right lane with his flasher light on, and big GO PRO banner across his back.

      Don’t be a bike d!ck. Ride some other time if you’re not commuting on it (which he wasn’t).

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    What I learned from this:

    600s are slow as crap in the real world. I don’t think dude took it past ~10K RPM.

    If it was me, I would definitely have ducked into one of those side streets, or onto that highway.

    • 0 avatar
      slavuta

      All it takes for a bike to get away is to get somewhere, where car can’t go. For example, busy parking lot. And sneak between 2 cars. It will take a car some time to go around or turn around. In the end, job one – not to get killed by a raging car. And that could be easy achieved by barrier of parked cars. In any case, people would notice this chase and call police. This biker seem to have one brain line given to him by some primitive ancestral life, with only “run” response to danger.

    • 0 avatar
      Lex

      Negative, Charlie. That looks like an YZF-R6 (’01-’03) which runs around an 11 sec quarter mile, 0-60 in 3.5 sec, skilled rider included. The Fusion, assuming a best case scenario (V6 SEL) run a 15.5s quarter mile, that’s > 4 sec lead time every time they pull to a stop. He should be in Mars by the time Fusion-jump-suit-guy gets around all the obstacles. Instead, in biker-guy’s brilliance, his best course of action is ride towards oncoming traffic.

      You can postulate a lot of things from the video, but to say 600s are slow is fallacious. There is a reason we call these riders squids.

      • 0 avatar
        sgeffe

        Or nearly SQUASHED..by a Ford Escape and a few other vehicles!

        (Remember Jack’s story of that high-speed chase a couple weeks ago? One car coming out of one of the side roads…!)

  • avatar
    Land Ark

    I’ll be the first to admit that I sometimes lose my cool behind the wheel. But I will say that since I started using a camera while driving I find that I am a lot more calm (calmer?) when someone else decides that I have wronged them in some fashion that warrants attempted homicide. And I am much more likely to let things goes with a head shake when someone does something that makes me think that their parents should have worn a condom that night.

    In any other situation I am able to handle and diffuse things in a calm and rational way. And that probably goes for most people. But you get behind the wheel and all bets are off. It’s a strange evolution.

  • avatar
    CarnotCycle

    Obviously guy on bike wasn’t THAT interested in getting away from Fusion.

  • avatar

    Here in NYC the only sure way to get away with murder is behind the wheel of a car. The cops really do look the other way, #VisionZero be damned.

    • 0 avatar
      golden2husky

      The problem in NYC is that there are so many pedestrians, bikes, and cars that unless you are really careful and pay attention, some kind of incident is likely. I’ve noticed a lot of passive aggression by pedestrians – a stupid move that can get you killed. Vision Zero has a fundamental flaw – a few really. One, the closer you get to zero, the more onerous the program will have to become. You will have to have slower and slower traffic, and Nazi-like enforcement. Two, since “Zero Vision” DeBlasio ignores the 30 percent of pedestrian fatalities that are 100% the fault of the pedestrian (as per the Vision Zero data report), NYC will never achieve the mayor’s goal. But it will make the car haters happy, that is until they find their trucked in items have doubled in price….

      • 0 avatar
        bunkie

        I live near the Manhattan entrances to the 59th Street Bridge (I refuse to use the new name).

        If I calculate the odds on how I’m likely to get killed, crossing Second Avenue at East 59th is further up the list than:

        1) Hitting a deer on my motorcycle in rural PA
        2) Have a low-speed, stall-spin accident in the Cessna
        3) Any kind of car accident

        The primary reason has to do with the need to “make the light” by all the people who just have to get back to Queens. Coupled with the dangerous incompetence of the crossing guards (who send ambiguous signals to both peds and vehicles), it’s the one place where I feel most at risk.

        Vision Zero is little more than a marketing campaign. The lower speed limit is a joke, ignored by everyone. My solution is saturation enforcement at specific high-risk locations. Make drivers think that they *will* get a ticket for any infraction at the most dangerous locations (and at random other locations) and you could, possibly, change the culture. Because that’s what’s needed.

  • avatar
    jacob_coulter

    Crazy video. The man in the red car should be charged with attempted murder. I don’t see how it’s any different than someone trying to shoot someone multiple times but misses.

    I also don’t understand why the guy in the bike couldn’t have easily put more distance between himself and the car. After the first time, it was clear the guy was basically trying to kill him. And then the guy after trying to kill him multiple times sticks his iPhone out the window like he’s Mr. Good Citizen and going to take his problem to the proper authorities?

    Interesting Times

    • 0 avatar
      varinki

      He was probably too busy panicking to think of booting it. That and in the video comments he said he wasn’t an experienced rider.

    • 0 avatar
      rpn453

      It’s more like shooting at someone to scare them while intentionally missing every shot. If he wanted to kill the biker, he would have. The biker gave him plenty of opportunity for that.

      They don’t even typically charge people with attempted murder for actually stabbing or shooting others. Those are far more blatant attempts at killing someone.

      The driver should be charged with dangerous or reckless driving though. I don’t know what the biker could be charged with. Probably many things if we could see the full video. According to the YouTube comments, he had a series of videos called “Messing with Cars” that he recently deleted.

      • 0 avatar
        brn

        Re: “Messing with cars”

        The problem with [email protected] like this is that you eventually run into a bigger a-hole than yourself. Kinda hard to get sympathy.

        The smart thing would have been to never post this video. Hopefully, everyone has learned a lesson.

  • avatar
    DeadWeight

    Darwinism entropy.

    Idiocracy was an actual prophetic documentary, and Idiocracy draws nearer with each passing day.

  • avatar
    Pch101

    I don’t know who started it, but I can guess that each guy is feeling pretty righteous about himself and lays all of the blame on the other guy.

    • 0 avatar
      MrGreenMan

      They both have cameras running – ready to prove themselves absolutely correct on YouTube.

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      The folded right mirror on the bike, and the rider’s somewhat clumsy attempts at “lane splitting” at the beginning of the video, could indicate he had smacked the car’s mirrors pre footage. It’s not really a big deal, but can be a bit startling if you’re sitting in a car. So if you are a self righteous hothead to begin with……..

      Aside from that, in traffic situations, the guy running away generally deserves more sympathy than the guy trying to run him over.

      • 0 avatar
        sgeffe

        If that happened in Northwest Ohio, that biker would have gotten away scot-free, since the self-righteous ones believe their engines will explode if they go one mile over what the sign says!

    • 0 avatar
      TDIGuy

      From the comments on the video: “how it all started… I just came to a complete stop lane split and position my bike in front of him… and I guess he didn’t like that and tried to hit me with his car, so I got mad and smacked his mirror (no damages) and I dip, and that’s where the chase started”

  • avatar
    VoGo

    I don’t agree the contention that the automobile is America’s deadliest weapon. Motor vehicle deaths are about 33K annually, as are gun violence deaths.

    But the motor vehicle category includes trucks, not just automobiles. Making guns America’s deadliest weapons.

    But you already knew that.

  • avatar
    VW16v

    Focus driver should be tossing salads in a one of those great Florida prisons.

  • avatar

    The only thing missing from this video is 7-hundred-and-7 Horsepower.

  • avatar
    -Nate

    Hoo boy ~

    Serious click bait there .

    Glad no one got hurt .

    I too wonder what the original thing was ~ some bubbas simply go nutso because you pass them .

    -Nate

    • 0 avatar
      gakoenig

      Why are you glad nobody got hurt?

      Stupid is SUPPOSED to hurt. Perhaps if stupid hurt a lot more, people wouldn’t engage in activities like those seen in the video.

      Both those numb-nuts deserve some broken bones.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        So… its OK with you these two being stupid could have cost someone their life when the bike was in the oncoming lane? Should stupid between these two hurt me if I am that guy in the oncoming lane?

        Until we live in a Judge Dredd world where stupid can be executed on the spot, I’d like to see it kept to a minimum and the rest of us not impacted by it.

        • 0 avatar
          gakoenig

          Oh, I’m very happy no real people got hurt.

          These two knuckleheads though? Let’s just note that they are zero value-added kinda folks. More so the dude in the Fusion, by a whisker.

      • 0 avatar
        sgeffe

        Or an airbag to the neck, in the case of the Fusion driver.

        (One wonders just how many somersaults that biker would have done through the air before face-planting, if a vehicle would have come out from one of the side roads?!)

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    If the biker had maintained traffic speed, he would have had witnesses at the moment Florida Man™ would have struck him. But self-preservation prevails in such a case, thus the high speeds and risky moves.

    As for the drivers and their vehicles: I don’t know whether to be impressed with the Fusion’s performance, or disappointed with the bike’s.

    It’s a miracle there wasn’t an accident.

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    Either that sport bike is overrated or the Ford Fusion is underrated.

  • avatar
    John

    Eh, two grown men acting like four year olds in a sandbox – a marriage made in heaven. Yeah, escalate things with a knife – just the best response ever.

  • avatar
    Chets Jalopy

    With some of the moves the motorcycle rider used to get away from the Fusion, I am certain he did some jackassery to set this chain of events moving. The impetus was keenly edited out.

    • 0 avatar
      paxman356

      He had a video on his You Tube feed called “Messing With Cars”, but he deleted it. I get the feeling he’s not all that innocent in the matter. It still doesn’t excuse the behavior of the Fusion driver.

    • 0 avatar
      SpinnyD

      I posted this link earlier, but it didn’t show up. The guy posted the video of the incident that started it all.

      https://youtu.be/KrMTYz2CgCQ

  • avatar
    formula m

    pansy Jack would get his decrepit body run over or beat up so fast acting as he portrays himself

    • 0 avatar
      Jack Baruth

      You typed all of that using just your left hand? Amazing.

      • 0 avatar
        formula m

        Why don’t you just give him your patented “shocker sign” wearing your biker gloves pretending you have a gun.

        I’m sure enough “young mothers” call you Jack the Ripper already. Don’t think you need to start brandishing a knife.

    • 0 avatar

      The truth is that you don’t need guns or money or even numbers. You just need the will to do what the other guy won’t.

      Jack may look like Tiny Tim sometimes and be a bit foppish about clothes (as was Leonard Setright, another great automotive writer), but I’d bet my paycheck from TTAC that nobody has ever thought “pansy” after meeting the man. Other deprecations, I’m sure, but not that one.

      However, on the odd chance that his lady friends and active social life are indeed a compensation for latent pansyhood, I should only be so lucky to be such a pansy.

  • avatar
    Geekcarlover

    What’s missing is whatever the motorcyclist did to anger the other driver? It’s Florida. I’ve been driving here for 35 years. People go apesqueeze crazy just because. I’ve been at the receiving end of similar abuse over very minor slights or errors on the road. I had one guy chase me, while alternately riding his horn and cussing loudly, because I almost (emphasis ALMOST, no contact) hit his truck while pulling out of a parking space.
    Florida crazies are not like others. Our locals train for it like an Olympic sport.

    • 0 avatar
      paxman356

      Here in Indy, I passed a guy. That’s it, I passed him. He was being a jackass in the left lane, speeding up when there was open road, slowing down when he was passing someone and I took him by surprise and passed him on the right. And after that the road rage began. Fortunately he had to turn off, because he was in his work truck… with the company he worked for on the side. His boss was happy to hear my story. There is way too much stupid on the road today.

    • 0 avatar
      SpinnyD

      https://youtu.be/KrMTYz2CgCQ

  • avatar
    qfrog

    C&P from youtube.

    Roni g: 23 minutes ago:
    “I will post the beginning of it. He tried to ram me when I was taking off from a light, so I only smack his mirror to get his attention ”

    So there you have it, the motorist may have been driving poorly, the motorcyclist felt that it was okay to slap a mirror and this is a video of what resulted.

    • 0 avatar
      ToddAtlasF1

      I knew guys in school that bragged about kicking in door panels of cars that cut them off on the interstate. That might have inspired road rage from me.

      • 0 avatar
        JimC2

        “I knew guys in school that bragged about kicking in door panels of cars that cut them off…”

        Heh. I had a college prof who talked about that. He was a bit of a blowhard, to put it kindly.

    • 0 avatar
      moitz

      The beginning is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrMTYz2CgCQ

      Florida Boy lane split to the front of the line at the stop light, Florida Man got mad and tried to get ahead of him, Florida Boy decided he should be first and gunned it, and then they decided to have a manhood measuring contest at the next light.

      They’re both morons, but yes, Florida Man was pretty actively trying to commit some vehicular homicide.

  • avatar
    Ryoku75

    If one reads the youtube comments, this user had a “Messing with Cars” video up previously, which was removed about when this video was put up.

    Coincidence?

  • avatar
    White Shadow

    Had to have been something like a Ninja 250, no?

  • avatar
    JimZ

    jesus both of those idiots need a weekend in jail to think about what they did. I’m going to guess the a**hole on the bike is 18 or 19 years old, and your typical “I’m indestructible” douchebag. Lanesplitting is legal in California but you are not supposed to travel at more than 10 mph faster than traffic; and it’s ill-advised (and ticketable) if you lane split in traffic going more than 30 mph. The instant he started driving that fast on a public road (then riding at high speed in the ONCOMING LANES!!) I lost all sympathy. Stupid little boy squids give all motorcyclists a bad reputation.

    Mr. Hardass in the Fusion should be hauled in on assault charges. Nobody appointed him traffic cop, and he needs to have the potential consequences of his actions pounded into his microcephalic head.

    • 0 avatar
      Quentin

      I think the opposite lane stuff was him finding a location where he could keep the fusion from going. He is narrow enough and wasn’t going a high speed in the opposite lane, so the Fusion couldn’t follow. Given the amount of traffic, he might have thought that this was the best way to keep a buffer between himself and the fusion without turning up to 120 mph to try to pull away. I’m not sure how sound the logic is (not a biker), but I think that was his logic knowing his forward speed was limited by the traffic and traffic lights ahead.

      Edit: I counted at least 5 traffic lights and tons of places for other cars to turn in. He’d have ended up dead had he tried to get away with speed alone. Hitting an unsuspecting car at 120 is going to kill you on a bike.

      • 0 avatar
        stuki

        While sportbikes are faster than Fusions at the top end, the difference isn’t staggering. And, as you noted, not really all that practically useful. In cornering speeds, they are very similar as well.

        Where bikes utterly destroy cars, is in acceleration. Hence, to get away, make a 90 degree turn, slowing you both down to <30. Then whack it. Keep repeating, and no Fusion will be able to keep up.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @Stuki – the differences are staggering. A 600 sport bike can go at least 150 mph. 0-60 times aren’t even comparable. A bike can easily out corner a Fusion. There was a 90 degree corner close to my home on a back road that my buddies and I could hit at 75-80 mph on our bikes before the pegs would grind. No way a Fusion would stay on the road at that speed. Braking is another bike advantage.

          Ultimately, the rider was a squid.

          • 0 avatar
            stuki

            I’ve been on both sides of car/bike races ( long time ago :) )enough times to know where each has it’s strength. A 600 on good tires, and with a good rider is faster everywhere, but the only place where it is completely night and day, is acceleration at speeds above where the bike is wheelie limited, and below where air resistance dominate. Say 30-175 mph or so.

            Gun a 500HP car off the line, and you’ll get a jump on any sportbike with a standard swingarm. Then he’ll blow by you, until you’ll start reeling him in as his 150 HP and horribly unaero shape is no match for your 500, despite your bigger frontal area.

            The trick to dropping da police on a bike, is making them slow for 90 degree turns, then accelerate to 120-150, brake as hard as you dare, then another 90 degree turn, accelerate to 120-150……… Either that, or find a narrow spot, like a walkway or pedestrian overpass….. Unless you are certifiable, like that Ghostrider dude in Sweden, beating them down the freeway, is a tough and dangerous slog, indeed.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @stuki – sport bikes are very sensitive to rider input. Performance cars aren’t as sensitive. I used to drag race my YZ490 Yamaha. The first year I ran I did not have wheelie bars but I was still able to pull 13.34 second 1/4 mile times. My buddy on a KX500 was running mid 11’s. The next year they went to a “pro-tree” format and with wheelie bars my 1/4 times were about the same. I probably would of been breaking into high 12’s on a standard full tree stage.

            When it comes to launching you have to know how to play your clutch to control wheelies.
            I never ran across a street legal car that could out-launch my sport bike (But then again, I had a litre bike).

            A car would require a 200 mph top speed to reel in a bike. There is a video on the net of a BMW S1000RR slaughtering a Bugatti Veyron.

            I agree that both have their strengths and weaknesses. A bike’s biggest weaknesses are cold tires, anything that makes a paved road slick and the biggest problem of all is the rider.

      • 0 avatar
        sgeffe

        Wasn’t going a high speed? I thought he was passing the traffic going his way!

        His head going through someone’s windshield would surely have decapitated a driver or passenger!

  • avatar

    motorcycle posts cribbed from rideit? i was willing to let the first one go, but it seems like “give ’em an inch” is in full effect.

    le sigh.

    i understand the need for clickbait titles/articles and 15 second page load times in order to get all those ads served up and trackers locked and targeted on our computers, but at least make it worth our while! jack…boobie…buddy…it seems like you’re trying a bit hard lately…i’m probably wrong and i’m sure you’ll have lots of exciting things to say (should you say anything at all) regarding my attempt at concern here, but things from you feel – forced – lately.

    and yes, before you start in with the “well if you think you could do better” shtick…how about reporting on the mea culpa from tesla regarding the 7% model x delivery rate for the quarter.

    • 0 avatar
      Jack Baruth

      In a perfect world, we’d have eight stories a day that were organically generated from original research or access to unique, interesting cars.

      In this world, we do what we can. Some people want to discuss stuff like these videos in this community rather than in another one. For them, it’s a service.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        This is not geared towards you (necessarily) or the subject article, but TTAC’s been sucking BADLY the last 2 weeks or so, with maybe one worthwhile article per day or even every two days (with stretches as long as 3-4 days without anything interesting).

        Mark Stevenson may tell me I’m wrong to voice this comment publicly, but then again, I’m only stating my opinion, and Mark seems amenable to constructive criticism, so I’m taking that risk.

        • 0 avatar

          Coming here based on one of your more recent comments:

          Similar to what Jack said: we have no front line. We also have a new news editor and a couple of long-term writers have gone off into the sunset. We are trying to bolster our roster again. Consider this our build-up season.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            I literally just logged on to see if anyone turned down for what & saw your polite response.

            Yesterday was a smashing success, Mark.

            Let’s get the party started properly today with news of yet more absolute backtracking & complete open-mouth-insert-foot-and-stick-sharp-object-in a$$ by Cadillac’s “awesome set of tools living and working in SoHo” Head Honcho/Big Cheese/Chief Lifestyle & Arbiter of All Things Brand Elevating Lifestyle Guru, Johan de Nysschen, as Cadillac just pulled the plug on their “Mercedes S Class Beating Upcoming Ultra Luxurious, technological Tour-De-Force, must-have, better-than-zeee-Germans, “Flagship” CT8:

            http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/a28725/cadillac-ct8-cancelled/

            “Cadillac’s bold plan to revitalize its sales and image seems to have hit a snag: According to Autoline, plans for a Cadillac CT8 to compete with the Mercedes S-Class have been officially cancelled.”

            ……This just in. Cadillac CT8 program cancelled. Was to be flagship sedan for the brand. No doubt market shift to CUVs & SUVs played a role.
            — Autoline (@Autoline) April 5, 2016

            Complete product confusion: Check

            Old & new model mix being sold side-by-side: Check

            Still close to 1,000 (mostly dumpy) Cadillac Dealers selling rebadged Buick LaCrosses & fail-ATSs/CTSs: Check

            Ongoing reliability & Fit & Finish issues unbecoming a “premium/luxury” brand: Check

            Absolutely failed marketing/advertising campaign (The Arena + Mom Let Me Play With Dolls): Check

            Opening “Urban Cool/Hipster Approved” SoHo Digs for the Cadillac Free Range, Certified Fair Trade,Antibiotic Free, Organic, Artisinal Coach Building Company, PLLC: Check

            Hiring Uwe ‘MonteBlanc Fountain Pen’ Ellinghaus & Melody Millennial Chic Handbag-Lee: Check

            Convincing Clueless Mary Barra & the rest of the morons at GM HQ to cut a 12 billion USD check to Johann to “reinvent” the Cadillac brand (a division that sells 5 out of every 100 GM vehicles, most at a loss) & image with already failed product: Check

      • 0 avatar

        i get that you can’t have 100% grass-fed, free-range, artisanal posts handcrafted by trappist, waffle-eating, belgian monks but if you would report some actual, kinda-interesting auto news with liberal doses of baruth-(either flavor)-inspired zaniness and fun (when i test drove a tesla to georgia and back i got the opinion of it from blondie mcfakeblonde hitchhiker and she woulda been VERY disappointed by anything resembling a mere 7…percent…delivery rate).

        ya dig?

        • 0 avatar
          Jack Baruth

          Workin’ on it, brother.

          • 0 avatar

            fair enough, my man…fair enough. i haven’t written anything else here since my little piece ‘lo those many years ago…so for you to be in the fray day-after-day, hour-after-hour says way more about my lack of than your lack of.

            keep on keepin’ on.

        • 0 avatar
          DeadWeight

          No neckbeard, dreadlocks, hipster artisinal toast content required or desired.

          Just highly critical, thought-provoking, wake-up-the-zombies, shake-up-the-establishment, opinion pieces along the lines of JB’s pieces on Cadillac, Porsche, Bentley, Hublot, Bentley, etc.

    • 0 avatar
      rpn453

      Between his blog, this site, Road and Track magazine features, and his R&T columns, I’m impressed by the amount of interesting, original content Jack puts out. I couldn’t imagine thinking up that much to write about.

    • 0 avatar

      Mea culpa or a show of false modesty (accusing themselves of “hubris”) to distract from the fact that the Silicon Valley startup that was going to show the traditional auto industry how to do things differently (notwithstanding that much of their creative talent, just like with Apple and Google’s automotive ventures, was scooped up from the environs of Detroit, Michigan) managed to not have enough parts on hand for a vehicle launch? Maybe their supply chain folks come from Silicon Valley.

      If Toyota or Ford botched a launch like that, it wouldn’t be obscured by gushing reports about orders for a car years from production.

  • avatar
    whynotaztec

    What a couple of dicks. I’m just thankful that no innocent third party got killed because of their idiocy. I hope they get jail time and have their licenses shredded.

  • avatar
    hybridkiller

    “I can tell you what I’d have done in the same situation: pulled over, kept my Kahr P9 holstered, and let the driver decide if he wants to scrap it out with an armed person.”

    FTFY Jack.

    • 0 avatar
      Jack Baruth

      I don’t own a gun, though :)

      • 0 avatar
        hybridkiller

        Since you don’t live in FL you’re probably ok. I lived there a long time, finally got the hell out.

        To paraphrase the old saying, never bring a knife to a road rage incident ;-}

      • 0 avatar

        It’s been said that Israeli leaders could truthfully say that Israel has no operational nuclear weapons.

        The Savage 1907 that I discovered hidden in the lining of my father’s favorite upholstered rocking chair legally is owned by my 91 year old mother, even though she has no idea that it exists.

        • 0 avatar
          hybridkiller

          I used to have my dad’s Colt 1903, which he kept inside a cut-out copy of an old book titled “Upon This Rock”. He thought that was great irony. I sold it since they are quite common and I tend to not be sentimental about guns.

      • 0 avatar
        hybridkiller

        Oh btw Jack, Ohio is a “shall issue” state – just sayin’…

    • 0 avatar
      Nick 2012

      I see more bikers open carrying than any other group. Probably far more effective at calming road rage than short hair.

      • 0 avatar
        hybridkiller

        It’s illegal to open carry in FL (even with a CCW license) and they’re pretty serious about it. A few of the rural counties might tolerate it, but you won’t see anyone doing it near the coast or any inland population centers like Orlando.

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    myheadhertz

    The motorcyclist forgot he was on a motorcycle. The biker should have used sidewalks, lawns, fields, whatever, to evade the car. He should have slowed down and used his head.

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    05lgt

    What the heck is it with FL and stupid? I know several smarties FROM there, but every time I go there I manage to be surprised. I had a 1%er decide to chase me down a gravel road there once. I was in a rental car…. you know, the kind with 4 wheels… kinda looked like he went down, but I only had a knife and a car, so I just drove away.

    • 0 avatar
      DeadWeight

      I have 9 relatives, all very well-off to very wealthy (a old uncle who loves in Naples and also Manalapan).

      Florida is a weird state, that is very balkanized.

      It’s full of the wealthy, the transients, the immigrant laborers, to con men/ponzi scheme promoters, and a while slew of seasonal, service AND labor sector carnival like workers (Mousketeers to storm chasing roofers).

      It’s also full of fraud-ring doctors, personal injury lawyers, insurance fraudsters, pill mills and other weird $hit, as well as giant cockroaches, other strange bugs, swampland, mangroves, real estate schemes, drug mules, insane humidity and “the most interesting” type people in the world (in their own minds) and eccentric south and central Americans, and Europeans.

      • 0 avatar
        hybridkiller

        DW, where it comes to being an a$$hole, FL is an equal opportunity state. I was born,raised, and lived most of my life there. Some of the worst/most dangerous drivers appear to be mainstream, educated, middle class, well dressed and driving fairly nice cars. You’re absolutely bang-on about FL being a magnet for bottom-feeders, but it’s the well dressed 20-30-something in the new-ish 3 Series that is the quintessential road-douchebag in FL.

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    Storz

    Wow, dude needs to roll that throttle on the bike back a little harder

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    Watching this DB antagonize the enraged car driver and make no attempt to exit the situation. Yeah, I’d buy he’s 19.

  • avatar
    rocketrodeo

    I tend not to focus on the car role in these situations, since it should be assumed that every car is out to get you. When you are a motorcyclist, you need to understand that interacting with traffic is a game rigged against you. The actuarial distribution of mental illness suggests that sooner than later you will introduce yourself to a sociopath like the Fusion driver. Your chances of survival increase substantially the sooner you realize that in the highway food chain, you are mere plankton. There is nothing more useless than road rage on a motorcycle.

    I predict a short career on two wheels for this rider. Most people, indeed most riders, do not understand how steep the learning curve is, and how binary the testing. The tests are administered randomly without warning. Passing means you have the privilege of being tested again. Penalties for failure range from pain to instant death. Besides the outright novice stage, the next most dangerous phase is the time when the motor skills have been more or less mastered but the experience and judgment remains severely lacking, as is nicely illustrated here. You just haven’t seen the range of things that can happen on two wheels — situations that would never occur to a driver with extensive experience. Ten years and 100K miles is about the minimum for that. Give that the average rider does 3500 miles a year, and mostly the same 100 miles over and over again, it’s just as well that most do eventually accept their limited skills and hang up the helmet for good.

    • 0 avatar

      What Rocketrodeo said

    • 0 avatar
      RHD

      One of the best decisions I ever made was to buy a convertible and sell the motorcycles while still in one piece. Sooner or later the odds and the laws of physics and gravity WILL come painfully calling.
      Riding a motorcycle is an absolute blast, and a convertible (in this case, a Datsun SRL311 Roadster) isn’t quite as much fun, but it’s much less likely to leave you maimed or dead.

      • 0 avatar
        -Nate

        Um ;

        What if even after surviving a fatal Moto collision , you can’t give it up ? .

        What then .

        Besides , I don’t actually like Rag Tops and hope to never buy another one .

        -Nate

        • 0 avatar
          rocketrodeo

          Nate, I respect those who have made an honest assessment of their skills and abilities, measure that against whatever it is they get out of motorcycling, and decide that it isn’t worth it to them and hang it up. One *should* have enormous respect for the range of possible consequences. For me, it informs a real sense of discretion about what risks I am or am not willing to take on. But at the same time there are a lot of low-skilled individuals of limited ability out there (many of whom have either never swung a leg over or were simply overwhelmed if they have) who project their own shortcomings onto everyone else when they decide that motorcycling is too dangerous. I’d say that many of them will never understand that the ability to ride safely for decades without incident or injury is simply not distributed evenly. Know your limitations; don’t extrapolate them.

  • avatar
    MeaMaximaCulpa

    Cold steel? Mr. Baruth, I’m disappointed, so very very disappointed.

  • avatar
    blppt

    I could swear thats a base 2.3L Fusion—I had a Milan (Mercury version) back in the day. Its almost like the biker was goading him on, because I can tell you from experience–that car could get dusted by a 4 cylinder Camry.

    His lack of putting easy distance between himself and the psycho wasnt certainly wasnt to strictly obey the local traffic laws, as he was driving on the other side of the road for a while there.

  • avatar
    mcs

    I guess the cops aren’t going to do anything:

    http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2016/04/05/video-captures-insanely-dangerous-florida-road-rage-battle-between-a-car-and-a-motorcycle

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    So here is the rest of the story…

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4833854799001

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