By on December 22, 2015

2016 Nissan Titan XD

Nissan announced Tuesday that its 2016 Titan XD would start at $41,485 (including $1,195 destination) for the S Crew Cab 4×2 model. The top-of-the-line Platinum Reserve Crew Cab 4×4 will start at $61,715.

The pricing places the diesel-powered Titan XD firmly in the middle between the Big Three’s light-duty and heavy-duty trucks. For example, Ram’s 1500 Tradesman Crew Cab 4×2 with its 3-liter diesel engine costs $36,940, according to Ram. A heavy-duty 2500 Ram Limited 4×4 with a 6.7-liter diesel engine starts at $64,215.

The Nissan Titan XD is a heat-seeking missile aimed in between truckmakers’ light- and heavy-duty offerings, apparently.

According to Nissan, four-wheel drive will run about $3,000 in the 2016 Titan XD; the Titan XD S Crew Cab 4×4 will start at $44,485 (in higher SV, SL and Platinum trims four-wheel drive runs $2,950).

Nissan’s off-road, PRO-4X grade for the Titan XD will start at $52,165. Here are the rest of the prices for your consideration:

• Titan XD S Crew Cab 4×2 — $41,485
• Titan XD SV Crew Cab 4×2 — $45,255
• Titan XD SL Crew Cab 4×4 — $53,225
• Titan XD Platinum Reserve Crew Cab 4×2 — $58,665
• Titan XD S Crew Cab 4×2 — $44,485
• Titan XD SV Crew Cab 4×4 — $48,205
• Titan XD PRO-4x Crew Cab 4×4 — $52,165
• Titan XD SL Crew Cab 4×4 — $56,225
• Titan XD Platinum Reserve Crew Cab 4×4 — $61,715

(All prices include $1,195)

The 2016 Nissan Titan XD will go on sale Wednesday at dealers.

In a statement, Nissan said its Titan would be offered in “three different powertrain configurations, two frame sizes, three cab configurations and five trim levels” when it goes on sale later next year.

Let me take my shoes off to count real fast.

Titan will have a Titan and Titan XD frame (check); regular, extended and crew cab (check); S, SV, SL, PRO-4X and Platinum trims (check); newly announced Endurance V-8, 5-liter Cummins V-8, and, um, magic.

The 2017 Nissan Titan will be powered by magic.

Or a yet-to-be-named V-6.

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76 Comments on “2016 Nissan Titan XD Starts At $41,485; Is It Your Goldilocks?...”


  • avatar
    APaGttH

    My guess is someone did a ton of market analysis and concluded:

    A) We can’t win against the big three and Toyota with half-ton trucks, we have barely been a footnote
    B) Doing something [email protected]$$ed like building a pickup on a minivan chassis won’t move the needle either – if we keep doing this we have to be all in
    C) The Frontier gets a needed update, and we can benefit from the growing midsize segment below the half-ton trucks, we are making money here and will continue to be a player
    D) There is a gap between half-ton trucks on steroids and 3/4 – 1 ton trucks both in features, content, capacity and price – and this is a niche where we can make profit – fat stacks of profit

    If we can sell as many new XDs as old Titans = winning.

    On paper, and given current fuel prices, this looks like a good plan. The niche will be hard for the competitors to close. It’s a classic “red ocean” strategy, find an under served niche and address it to carve out your own spot.

  • avatar
    Hummer

    Jeez, at $40k there’s simply no reason to not just go the distance and get the <6L domestic diesel option. Maybe I'm wrong, but this made sense at 32-35K, but the discounts on the domestics aren't going to do this any favor, unless Nissan plans on doing the same discounting.

    Also mark, I believe you meant to put extended cab for one set of those prices.

  • avatar
    nickoo

    Seems really overpriced. I think Nissan should have hit them where they ain’t and put more money into fast tracking the next generation leaf and a luxury electric infinity G series. Nissan will never break into the larger pick up truck market, especially at these prices, and they are just throwing away money at this point.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    “I love goooooold!”

    -Goldmember

  • avatar
    TOTitan

    Considering that Nissan has the capacity to build only 100,000 Titans per year, I predict that they will sell every one of them they can make. The relatively low tow rating was most likely dictated by risk management….with the components the truck has Im certain that it can easily tow well past 12,000 lbs.

  • avatar
    Big Al from Oz

    I would like to see one of these XDs in real life. I’m hoping the front end isn’t as unattractive as in the photos.

    Contrary to what some of the comments will state, I do believe Nissan has done a sterling job with the XD Titan. Nissan hasn’t only targeted the Goldilocks buyer but it is also targeting the well heeled or better heeled SUV type who’s after a larger and some of that effortless diesel capability.

    They will sell more XDs with higher trim packages because of this, thus easily value adding to Nissan’s bottom line.

    As for the engine/drivetrain selection. What large V6 does Nissan have? Will Nissan rework the existing Frontier/Titan V6 like it has done with the V8?

    Nissan has done work with the current Titan fitted with the little 2.8 ISF Cummins. I have read reports that this engine fitted to the current Titan has returned over 30mpg on the highway.

    Well, the Big Three should take note here. Nissan will erode some of their HD numbers, not much. Ford will be the biggest loser, as the lighter F-250 SuperDutys will feel more of the pinch than the other manufacturers. Ford is probably almost as reliant on these lighter HDs as it is with the F-150.

    Nissan only need to sell 5 000 XDs per month to shake up the Big Three. I hope they do and I also would like to see Toyota come out with a “XD” Tundra. The Big Three will find it hard to fill in this niche.

    • 0 avatar
      Drzhivago138

      It’s my opinion that every vehicle that has looked ugly on screen has looked better in the metal.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      @BigAl – why do you think the F250 will be hurt more by the Titan XD?

      The Cummins Ram has the poorest durability rating of the Big 3 HD pickups and I’m betting on buyers who want a Cummins but not Ram durability will be the ones lining up to buy this.

      The Cummins Ram pre-DPF had the worst fuel economy of the Big 3 so the XD’s less than stellar MPG won’t seem so bad for those looking for a new Cummins powered truck.

      Ram is the oldest truck of the bunch and there hasn’t been any concrete plans for a new Ram. That is also in favour of Nissan.

      We must remember that the head of Nissan truck division is Fred Diaz who was Ram’s CEO. He knows Ram’s weak spots.

      Ford will have a new HD soon. That will keep most of the Ford faithful from straying.

      The GM HD’s have a fairly new chassis and bodies and their drivetrains are proven.

      Now on to the 1/2 tons.

      Once again, Ram has an old truck. The Ecodiesel isn’t in the same league as the Titan XD. It is an mpg king. There is a rumour of a “max capacity” Ram 1500 but I bet that won’t surface until Ram releases a new truck.
      Ford – they have 4 engine choices along with HD cargo package as well as a tow package within striking range of the XD. Recent spy shots show Ford testing a diesel F150.
      GM – they have 2 lines of new trucks with 12k tow packages as well as superior cargo ratings to the Titan.
      Toyota – the Tundra has a stellar durability rating and decent tow ratings.

      Nissan may think they found a niche but it is a rather small one situated between a rock and a hard place.

      • 0 avatar
        Big Al from Oz

        Lou,
        Because of the F Series, the lighter HDs makes or breaks them. I’d bet my gonads (again heavy handle;) that at least 50% of the SUV type HD buyers are buying a F-250 SuperDuty.

        The XD Titan’s bigger target are the well heeled with a horse float, big ass boat, off roader, fifth wheel RV. Don’t forget the Nissan will come with a fifth wheel hitch. Nissan has done well with this. I think Nissan will be indebted to Fred Diaz.

        Just because it has a Cummins doesn’t mean Ram will lose out the most. Does the Silverado lose out to Sierra? Did the Frontier lose out to the Equator?

        People will be able to differentiate between Nissan and Ram or Ford for that matter. Ram also sells less HDs than Ford or the GM S twins.

        Just looking a the Titan it has I want Ford all over it.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @Big Al –
          1. The Titan XD crewcab box is too short for 5th wheel. 6.5 ft box is the minimum recommended box length for most 5th wheelers. The Titan XD crew is 5.5.
          2. Another point is the fact that the XDs cargo capacity is too low for 5th wheel. IIRC acceptable pin weight is 15-25% of trailer weight. A 12k trailer means a pin weight between 1,800 – 3,000lbs. The full bling Titan XD has a 1500 lb capacity. The bare bones Titan XD is around 2k.
          3. If we look at “bumper pull” 10-15% of trailer weight on the tongue is standard. 12k bragging weight once again for the Titan means 1,200 – 1,800 lbs on the truck. Just in case you forgot, the Titan XD has a cargo rating of 1,500 – 2,000 lbs based on bling level.
          The Titan XD’s main selling feature is being able to out tow max capacity ½ tons and ride better than a HD. The point of a recreational crewcab truck is to tow your toys AND carry your family/friends. The Titan XD can’t do both at the same time.
          An F150 crew with HD cargo package and max tow can do both. A GM 1500 with 7,600 GVW package and max tow can do both. ANY HD gasser or diesel can do both.

          The Titan XD is a heavy truck that cannot compete with ¾ ton HD’s and it actually cannot compete with Ford or GM ½ ton HD’s.

          • 0 avatar
            Big Al from Oz

            Lou,
            Times are a changin’. Read up on fifth wheels. Geez, we even have fifth wheel trailers for our 5′ beds.

            As for the size of the trialer on the back of the Titan. If you need to tow 18 000lbs, like you are suggesting the Titan is the WRONG vehicle.

            As for you comparison with a 1/2 ton GM product. I’d bet my ball that the XD Titan will out tow any GM 1/2 ton pickup, or for that matter any 1/2 ton Frod pickup, actually any current 1/2 ton pickup.

            Your arguments are not convincing, Lou.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @BigAl – yup, the RV industry is going to modify all of their inventory to fit 30,000 pickups per year.

            Horse trailers – I see smaller trailers that anything can pull or very large ones. None of the 5th wheel ones I see will fit a 5.5 foot box. Same can be said for 5th wheel camper trailers. Smaller ones are rare.

            You say you are an engineer but are blinded by your diesel ideology. a 1500 – 2000 lb capacity means you cannot tow heavy and have passengers on board. That is the point you are ignoring.

            GM said the average trailer weight for a HD was 10,000 lbs. If we go with that number with a 10-15% tongue weight that puts 1,000 – 1,500 lbs on the truck.

            Fifth wheel = 15-25% pin weight = 1,500 – 2,500 lbs.

            WHERE IS YOUR CAPACITY FOR PASSENGERS?

            I bet that my arguments are convincing to anyone but you.

            Care to do a poll of the B&B?

          • 0 avatar

            I hear the light weight 5th wheelers are one of the Targets. My inlaws are interested as they max their Tundra towing a Lightweight 5th wheel now. The XD is a 6.5′ box according to the most recent reviews early specs and Nissans site are wrong. The heavy duty half ton towing 5th wheels seem to be a growing market. My inlaws went to a RV rally in Elkhart this summer and said there were dozens of 1/2 ton towed 5th wheels where a few years ago there were very few. This seems to be a core market for Nissan thou the payload seems questionable given the trucks market.

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            mopar4wd – the Achilles heel of the XD is the 1500 – 2000 lb cargo capacity. It cannot be successful as an alternative to HD 3/4 ton trucks with that load capacity. As I pointed out earlier, GM says the average HD owner pulls 10k. That eats up most of the Titan XD’s ratings.

            If one looks at 1/2 ton trucks alone, Ram says the average 1/2 ton owner pulls 5k. That would mean the XD has to compete with the Ram 1500 Ecodiesel and GM Duramax Colorado/Canyon twins since they all are rated to tow higher than 5k. It also opens up the field to every other 1/2 ton out there. All will get better empty mpg and cost less.

    • 0 avatar
      Scoutdude

      While Ford is the leader in HD sales and thus have to potential to loose a higher number of sales to the Nissan Ram is the one shaking in their boots and will loose the greatest market share. Fact is that “well heeled” F250 buyers will not step down to the Nissan. Fact is that those people who tow the kinds of horse trailer that needs more than a 1/2 to step up to a DRW 350/3500 and don’t mess around with SRWs let along 250/2500s.

      You more delusional than Nissan if you think they can mover 5K XDs per month. So far this year they’ve managed to move about 1K per month. Yes the current truck is stale and there isn’t an equivalent of the XD.

      Just to put it in perspective in all the time that the Titan has been available they have moved only ~450K units. That is over 12 model years.

      One thing is clear if the have any hope of not loosing money on this Titan they will have to steal sales from the big 3 and Toyota. There just are enough current owners who are in the sweet spot for replacing, to make any profit on this truck on repeat customers.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    I wonder what the bargain basement standard cab no diesel will cost? You know for the whole 5 of them they sell to a contractor in Smyrna, TN.

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      High enough that buying an F250 with the 6.2L (or whatever Big 3 3/4 ton you like) would be a better idea.

    • 0 avatar
      Big Al from Oz

      PrincipalDan,
      I did read an article with a Nissan exec and he stated the Nissan are planning on increasing Titan capacity to 150 000 per year. Nissan also stated it will go to great lengths to achieve the 150 000 per year figure.

      I don’t know what Nissan expects the breakdown to be with XD numbers, but I would suspect at least 20% to be XDs. This is due to the number of Big Three HD segment breakdown.

      So, I do see it’s possible for Nissan to sell 30 000 XDs per year. With the current Titan Nissan also stated that it is only hitting 35% of the total full size pickup market. Add this to an old and dying vehicle you can see Nissan’s current sales woes with the Titan.

      With the new Titan, Nissan stated it will hit 85% of the full size segment. The Nissan target of 85% of potential market to sell in, plus a new and quite attractive full size pickup lineup makes me believe Nissan could pull this off.

      I think Ford sits around 35% of total F Series are HDs, with Ram on similar numbers and GM is in the high 20s. Taking into account the lack of a “true” HD I do believe my figure would be accurate’ish.

      With Ford having such a huge share of F Series in it’s lineup and a large chunk of that is the lighter F-250 “SUV” horse float, boat/toy mover, etc I’d bet my balls that Ford will take a larger hit than the other manufacturers competing against the XD Titan.

      Even the new/old 5.6 Endurance V8 looks like a good engine for Nissan. Cummins looks like a good engine. Will Nissan update the V6 as it has done with the V8? I hope so.

      • 0 avatar
        heavy handle

        Big Al,

        Betting your balls again? Did they grow back?

        It will take a while for Nissan to get any market share, for the simple reason that their previous pickup had terrible reliability, and the pickup market has a very long memory.

        If there’s any hit to be taken, Ford has the most to lose, just because they have the biggest market share. However, I wouldn’t bet against the Super Duty. It’s a very good truck, with great dealer support, and it’s been very reliable of late. It even drives OK if you put 500 lbs in the back.

        • 0 avatar
          Big Al from Oz

          heavy handle,
          My balls must be similar to those lizards whose tail grow back when they sacrifice them when in danger! They just keep on getting bigger and bigger;)

          As for the reliability issues etc. I do think because the Titan was such a small seller and the Nissan name isn’t in the same league as FCA for quality, Nissan can overcome this.

          Nowhere am I predicting that the Titan will blitz any of the big three. But it will take enough sales to stagnate the HD segment or even lower HD numbers by the amount of XD Titans sold. The number must come from somewhere and I don’t think a 2.7 Ecothirst buyer will consider a XD Titan.

          Nissan have already built a large inventory of the new Titan. So, I’d do think Nissan has high hopes, as I do.

          Competition, you got to love it.

          • 0 avatar
            heavy handle

            The Titan was well behind Ram for reliability. A long-time friend runs a shop that works almost exclusively on pickups and fleets. He tells me that all the full-size pickups have similar reliability, except for the Titan which has burned every customer who bought one.

            On top of that, Nissan has had a very poor parts support (no stock, long waits), and the aftermarket suppliers don’t bother because it’s so marginal.

            I’m not saying they can’t overcome this, but it will take a while before most pickup buyers trust them.

          • 0 avatar
            Big Al from Oz

            heavy handle,
            I do agree with you in regards to the woes of the current Titan to a degree. But I don’t think it’s as bad as the Ram. From what I’ve read many Titan owners are actually happy with their pickups.

            The current Titan was really an attempt from Nissan to just target the car/SUV buyer and not the serious business person.

            This is where Nissan went wrong. This new Titan is different.

            The other day I did read an article in Forbes listing the Worst 15 vehicles not to buy. The current Titan and Armada was among the others. Oddly FCA vehicles hit at least 50% of the list. Including the Wrangler.

            I suppose time will tell.

    • 0 avatar
      Drzhivago138

      What, the non-XD? Because (correct me if I’m wrong) the XD only comes in one cab/bed config, and only with the diesel. And we’ve heard absolutely nothing about the (2017?) non-XD Titan.

      • 0 avatar
        PrincipalDan

        I wasn’t aware that the two versions of Nissan’s truck were being released in different model years. I just thought that journalists weren’t talking about the 1/2 ton model because “OMG DIESEL!”

        • 0 avatar
          Drzhivago138

          Nope, they’re not talking about it because the only things we know so far are:

          1. It will be available with regular, king and crew cabs.

          2. It will be powered by a newer version of the 5.6 gas V8 named “Endurance.”

          Someone let me know if I missed anything in that whirlwind of information.

  • avatar
    indi500fan

    Purchased engine (Cummins), trans (Aisin), and axle (AmAx).
    Big tooling bill for an all new truck amortized across relatively low volume.
    Looks like it might make some profit for dealers and powertrain suppliers, but not Nissan.

    • 0 avatar
      Big Al from Oz

      indi500fan,
      The truck isn’t as new as you are suggesting. As for numbers, don’t use the very outdated current Titan. Read my comment to PrincipalDan, above.

      Both chassis are from existing platforms. The Cummins is already developed. Much of the emissions research by Cummins was paid for by the EPA, Cummins and Nissan.

      The V8 Endurance is an engine that already exists. The drivetrain components exist and are straight “off the shelf”.

      I would suspect for a “new” pickup Nissan has come out of this quite cheaply.

      • 0 avatar
        Lou_BC

        @Big Al from Oz – “I would suspect for a “new” pickup Nissan has come out of this quite cheaply.”
        Is Cummins and Aisin donating their components to Nissan?
        They are expensive components.

        The boat anchor heavy frame/chassis might indicate that you are correct – they went heavy because it is cheaper than saving weight.
        Did they clone the Ford SuperDuty snout to save money too?

        I’m sure that this truck is a hodge podge of engineering that was from Ram/Nissan’s aborted collaboration. Diaz was around on the Ram side of the equation.

        Frankenstein’s niche monster lives.

    • 0 avatar
      BigOldChryslers

      The HD Rams also use the exact same powertrain suppliers, Cummins, Aisin and American Axle. It appears to work for them.

    • 0 avatar
      LeadHead

      The Ram 3500 uses a purchased engine (Cummins), trans (Aisin) and both axles (AAM). The Chevy 2500/3500 also uses a purchased engine (Allison) and purchased axles (AAM).

      Seems to work for both of them.

      • 0 avatar
        BigOldChryslers

        LeadHead: You’ve got the right idea, but Chevy uses an Allison transmission, not engine. The Duramax diesel engine is made in a joint venture between GM and Isuzu, so you could argue it’s outsourced too.

  • avatar
    Carlson Fan

    I don’t expect this Titan to be any more successful than the generation before it. And I’m not sure you can call the 1st Gen. successful. The styling is eclectic and a turn-off. Maybe it looks better in real life. I’d also call it dated and somewhat unsophisticated. The Titan lacks curb appeal, and that helps sell trucks.

    I see what they’re going for but I think this truck misses the mark. A regular 1/2 ton with a diesel in size, power, and fuel consumption somewhere between the V6 in the Ram and the V8 in the Titan would have wider appeal. I think the baby duramax in the Colorado/Canyon will disappear from dealer lots as quickly as they show up. I don’t think Nissan will have that problem with Cummins in the Titan. Maybe at first, but not for long.I could be wrong. But let’s face it, the Nissan name doesn’t have a lot of cache in the US truck market. They need something that really stands apart from the crowd, and this truck doesn’t appear to achieve that. I suspect most buyers will be former Nissan truck owners. GM, Ford & RAM owners stepping into one of these & leaving their old steed at the their local Nissan dealer used truck lot will be few and far between.

  • avatar
    RideHeight

    Aside from a few Ram trims no pickup is particularly handsome today but those light clusters give this Nissan anime eyes.

    Minikui, ne。

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      Ram has some great looking trucks and some TERRIBLE looking trucks. Don’t even get me started on their ProMaster vans. Car and Driver called the ProMaster “a detestable, shovel faced thing that appears to have been cobbled together from spare parts.”

      I think both the F150 and Silverado look good minus acres of chrome. Sadly, that is an uncommon sight.

      • 0 avatar
        RideHeight

        Yes, I’m beginning to see Pro-Masters around here fairly commonly and, oy veh, only a mother could love that face. C&D’s spot on.

        I’m not crazy about the newer Transit Connect front clip but at least the entire design is an organic whole. The Pro’s just a hole.

        Buddy of mine has a dog-plain Silvy in dark blue with black rims that I do admire. Forgot about that.

        • 0 avatar
          bball40dtw

          The giant Nissan NV thing is also ugly. It too looks like it was cobbled together on the Island of Misfit Vans.

          • 0 avatar
            RideHeight

            Surprisingly I see those NVs as private vehicles is a few driveways. Kind of dwarfs the garage it’ll never fit in.

            But yeah, the only series of the new hyper-vans I like are Fords and I don’t know why. I guess they’re like a giant pipe wrench; you’ve just got to admire a no-compromises tool like that.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            I want a Transit in the worst way, but I have no idea what I’d do with it. Put a bar in it? Go to Home Depot a lot?

          • 0 avatar
            RideHeight

            I know.. it’s like a C-17. Just too cool to not be mine!

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          I haven’t seen too many ProMasters. I bet front drive in a big van is a hard sell to traditional fleet buyers. On the other hand I do see quite a few Transits and even Nissan NV’s.

          • 0 avatar
            danio3834

            They’re making in-roads. The FWD is a benefit for some buyers. The U shaped beam axle in the back allows for a very low load floor and efficient interior packaging.

          • 0 avatar

            Pretty common here in Newengland so far they out number transit’s but I don’t think that will last long. Most seem to be the v6 version being used by plumbers and HVAC guys.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            The Promaster has awesome interior packaging/load floor.

  • avatar
    George B

    Feels too expensive to me. Overkill for most individual owners and not a great value for a work truck. Maybe Nissan will later offer a minimum content refrigerator white one to go with their van/panel truck.

    Ford offers a heavy payload option that also competes in the middle ground between the regular “half-ton” and heavy duty “3/4-ton” models.
    http://www.automotive-fleet.com/news/story/2015/03/ford-offers-heavy-payload-f-150-to-commercial-users.aspx
    For users who don’t want or need the diesel engine, the F-150 with the heavy payload package is reasonably capable. Light weight aluminum body puts the net payload and towing capacity in the ballpark on the XD.

  • avatar
    VW16v

    This will be the typical Nissan blunder when it comes to pickups. There will be 9-12k on the hood of their new pickup within 9 months. I think Ford, GM, and Ram is sitting back and laughing.

  • avatar
    DenverMike

    The Titan needs to cater to fleet sales while offering every combination possible. This cherry picking combinations offered will get Nissan nowhere within the pickup truck market.

    They’re basically starting from zero, and don’t seem too serious about it.

    • 0 avatar
      Drzhivago138

      Apparently that’ll be the job for the regular Titan. But we’ve heard next to nothing about it.

      • 0 avatar
        Big Al from Oz

        Drzhivago138,
        The article I read stated that Nissan are planning on upgrading it’s pickup plant to produce a total of 150 000 pickups. If Nissan think they can sell 150 000 XDs a year I think they are dreaming.

    • 0 avatar
      DenverMike

      Already there’s no gas V8 for the XD, no 8 ft bed crew cab, not even a 6.5 ft bed. Or an extra cab or regular cab XD.

      It think the OEM should cater to consumers/fleets, vs the other way around.

      • 0 avatar

        Actually it only comes with a 6.5′ bed. Nissan consumer site is wrong along with several press releases. This seems to have the correct specs
        http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/presskits/us-2016-nissan-titan-xd-press-kit
        Also shows about 2k payload on lower trims.

        • 0 avatar
          DenverMike

          Actually, 5.5 ft is what I’ve read from several sources. Your link goes in circles. Hint: Bed Extender

          Nissan only recommends a goose neck hitch, definitely not a 5th wheel. No one will install a sliding hitch in a 5.5.

          nissanusa.com/trucks/titan/versions-specs

          It does look like a 6.5 from the longer wheelbase that centers the axle, mid bed.

      • 0 avatar
        BigOldChryslers

        > Already there’s no gas V8 for the XD,

        Perhaps not available at launch, but Nissan announced the gas V8 that will be available for the XD a week or two ago.

  • avatar
    PenguinBoy

    I don’t see Nissan selling many Titans regardless of the merits of the product as they don’t have much mindshare in this space. I don’t think many truck buyers will think of Nissan long enough to visit a dealership to evaluate the product for themselves.

    All of the big three trucks are pretty decent these days, and Toyota already serves those who want or need a truck but don’t like the domestic companies for whatever reason. Unlike Toyota, Nissan doesn’t have a particularly strong reputation for quality.

    Unless one of the big three or Toyota screws up, their customers won’t have a reason to go elsewhere, or even consider alternative products.

  • avatar
    eggsalad

    Just curious about the name. I thought vehicle names were trademarked. Doesn’t Scion/Toyota own the rights to “XD”?

  • avatar
    bodayguy

    WOW – I’ve never bought a truck (more familiar with sports cars and SUVs) but is that seriously what a typical one costs now? $40,000-$60,000?! That blows my mind.

  • avatar
    derekson

    My concern with this truck would be that Toyota supposedly tested this same 5.0L Cummins for the Tundra and rejected it due to poor NVH.

    • 0 avatar
      BigOldChryslers

      Do you recall where you read that? I’ve been following the news on this engine and didn’t read that anywhere. I doubt there is any truth to it.

      I suspect that Toyota walked away from this engine because they figured it can’t match the capabilities of the HD diesel trucks, it can’t get the economy of the 3.0L diesel in the RAM1500, and they don’t believe the “heavy-half” niche that Nissan is carving out will be successful.

      • 0 avatar
        ihbase

        I think you are correct. I watched a video of a Toyota engineering laying out the cost issues in the light diesel US market. It seems unlikely that fuel savings will ever offset the option cost as long as fuel prices are relatively low. Add to the cost of entry the higher maintenance costs related to SCR fluid, EGR cooling, and carbon filters, and diesels lose their old advantages in applications under 20k gross. While a diesel Tacoma / Tundra seems like it would be a great idea, it probably does not pencil out in the US market with relatively cheap fuel. Meanwhile, gas engines are producing a lot more torque. I still want one, but it makes no sense.

        A $60k Nissan seems like a tough sell considering that if a buyer actually needs a truck, higher capacity options are available for the same money. But perhaps this is actually a luxury market for people who have no actual use for a pickup anyhow.

        In the alternative, Nissan could have tried to bump Titan numbers by offering stripper models with the 5.0 diesel for $35-40k. I would have thought that the ag and construction fleet take rate would have been solid at a price point above Tacoma but below full size diesels.

        -Michael

  • avatar
    gtemnykh

    Call me weird but I actually find the first gen titans to be pretty attractive trucks right now, aside from the 5.6’s appetite. They are right sized and actually modestly styled in this day and age of massive grilles, priced reasonably after current rebates to account for its age and new model. The prox4 crewcab would be my pick.

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