Ask the B&B: Do Bad Panel Gaps Mean Poor Vehicle Quality?

Mark Stevenson
by Mark Stevenson

These photos are of a vehicle that recently visited my driveway for a week. I’m not going to tell you what that vehicle is — yet — but it does raise a very interesting question.

Are bad panel gaps an indicator of a poor quality product? And what “quality” are we talking about anyway?

I ask this question genuinely because there are all kinds of reasons why panels wouldn’t line up quite like they should.

Gaps could still be within tolerance

While a panel gap may look visually unappealing, the measurements themselves could still be within tolerances specified by the automaker. If so, the people on the assembly line are simply doing their job to spec. However, it could also mean those tolerances account for far too wide of a variance.

It could be a one-off issue

The panels on one particular vehicle may be poorly matched, but one vehicle does not a trend make.

Panels aren’t mechanical systems

Exterior panels are not subject to the same tolerances as mechanical parts because they don’t need to be. Outside of vast misalignments of panels that may make a door pinch a front quarter panel when opened, a large or awkward gap between misaligned panels is going to have very little effect on the performance of your vehicle.

However, this is me playing devil’s advocate. All of these reasons seem fairly ludicrous in today’s high-tech world of manufacturing. We have lasers — freakin’ lasers! — in factories now. And robots. And robots with lasers for eyes.

But, are these gaps indicative of other problems? If an automaker doesn’t care to button up visual issues on vehicles rolling off the factory line — even after what we can presume are quality checks at the end for such issues — are those same people overlooking other issues as well?

Lexus is notoriously known for minding the gap. Lesser-known gapminder Hyundai inspired General Motors to do a better job of fitting panels.

However, it seems the automaker that buttoned together the vehicle pictured didn’t learn the same lesson.

What do you think, B&B?

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  • 66 West 66 West on Nov 27, 2015

    How long do we have to wait to find out what car it is? :)

  • Zoomzoomfan Zoomzoomfan on Dec 22, 2015

    I'm not sure if the panel gaps reflect poor overall quality, but that's certainly what it'd lead me to believe. How can the mechanical bits be trustworthy (or even the electrical) if they can't get the doors to fit together well? The issue is, however, most Americans would NEVER notice that nor would they particularly care if they did.

  • Dave Holzman My '08 Civic (stick, 159k on the clock) is my favorite car that I've ever owned. If I had to choose between the current Civic and Corolla, I'd test drive 'em (with stick), and see how they felt. But I'd be approaching this choice partial to the Civic. I would not want any sort of automatic transmission, or the turbo engine.
  • Merc190 I would say Civic Si all the way if it still revved to 8300 rpm with no turbo. But nowadays I would pick the Corolla because I think they have a more clear idea on their respective models identity and mission. I also believe Toyota has a higher standard for quality.
  • Dave Holzman I think we're mixing up a few things here. I won't swear to it, but I'd be damned surprised if they were putting fire retardant in the seats of any cars from the '50s, or even the '60s. I can't quite conjure up the new car smell of the '57 Chevy my parents bought on October 17th of that year... but I could do so--vividly--until the last five years or so. I loved that scent, and when I smelled it, I could see the snow on Hollis Street in Cambridge Mass, as one or the other parent got ready to drive me to nursery school, and I could remember staring up at the sky on Christmas Eve, 1957, wondering if I might see Santa Claus flying overhead in his sleigh. No, I don't think the fire retardant on the foam in the seats of 21st (and maybe late 20th) century cars has anything to do with new car smell. (That doesn't mean new car small lacked toxicity--it probably had some.)
  • ToolGuy Is this a website or a podcast with homework? You want me to answer the QOTD before I listen to the podcast? Last time I worked on one of our vehicles (2010 RAV4 2.5L L4) was this past week -- replaced the right front passenger window regulator (only problem turned out to be two loose screws, but went ahead and installed the new part), replaced a bulb in the dash, finally ordered new upper dash finishers (non-OEM) because I cracked one of them ~2 years ago.Looked at the mileage (157K) and scratched my head and proactively ordered plugs, coils, PCV valve, air filter and a spare oil filter, plus a new oil filter housing (for the weirdo cartridge-type filter). Those might go in tomorrow. Is this interesting to you? It ain't that interesting to me. 😉The more intriguing part to me, is I have noticed some 'blowby' (but is it) when the oil filler cap is removed which I don't think was there before. But of course I'm old and forgetful. Is it worth doing a compression test? Leakdown test? Perhaps if a guy were already replacing the plugs...
  • Crown No surprise there. The toxic chemical stew of outgassing.
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