By on October 21, 2015

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Lexus released Wednesday a hint of what’s to come from the automaker’s 2015 Tokyo Motor Show display. According to the automaker, Lexus will be showing their “vision of progressive luxury” — which is vague-booking at its finest.

Although many believe the concept will be the automaker’s next-generation LS — which is certainly plausible considering Mercedes-Benz S Class, BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, et al. — it could be something different; Lexus has the Mirai and new Prius (aka CT) to play with from Toyota.

If it is an LS concept, it’s almost certainly going to include an alternative powertrain.

Toyota last week said that company aimed to sell 30,000 hydrogen-powered cars by 2020 — it sold 1,500 last year — and its flagship Lexus sedan could be the right kind of vehicle for an alternative powertrain display. (Whether that makes it into a production version remains to be seen.)

The current-generation LS is powered by a 4.6-liter V8 that makes 386 horsepower. Autocar reports that the next-generation LS could be powered by Lexus’ 5-liter V-8 with direct and port injectors borrowed from its IS-F and RC-F, possibly mated to a hybrid system.

The Tokyo Motor Show begins Oct. 28.

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47 Comments on “Lexus Teases Coming ‘Progressive Luxury’ Concept Car...”


  • avatar

    I just had plenty of seat time with the new 7-series and we already lease a W222. I don’t think Lexus has what it takes to compete with either.

    Yeah, there’s will be “cheaper”, but in this segment it’s not about price.

    • 0 avatar
      MBella

      The LS is a bit stale now, but when it came out it had an interior that was superb. The only thing I didn’t like was that it was too comfortable. You loose any sensation of driving. You feel like you’re in a leather recliner. If it wasn’t for the LS, I also don’t think the 222 S class would be as nice as it is. It forced Mercedes to really push it. I can’t speak about the new 7 series, but the old one was very disappointing to me when I drove it. (Like most BMWs I never feel like they live up to their hype.)

    • 0 avatar
      wsn

      “Yeah, there’s will be “cheaper”, but in this segment it’s not about price.”

      BMW would totally love to hear this and start charging $3M for a 7 starting tomorrow.

    • 0 avatar
      bd2

      Reminiscent of Lincoln and Acura having used taglines like “smart luxury” (which basically means cannot compete on the luxury front head to head with the likes of the S Class).

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    LS460 is also offered with a hybrid system.

    The phrase “vision of progressive luxury” suggests to me something that sounds or starts out as luxurious and then gets progressively worse.

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      I’d totally daily drive a LS600h. I do not want a LS460 F-Sport. Toyota has the audacity to make the LS look and ride worse while charging more money. Why don’t they just give the LS the grille from the NX?

      Bah. I’ll probably just go off the rails and buy a Continental.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        Don’t give them more bad ideas. Btw the LS600h still trades for like 60K in MY12 while the 460 is half that. I don’t want to save gas that much lol.

        • 0 avatar
          bball40dtw

          I’m not surprised. I assume the same thing happens with the ES and MKZ hybrids. The hybrid LS also gets you the 5.0L V8 instead of the 4.6L. The LS600h also starts WAY higher than the LS460. I think it’s long wheelbase only right now too. Staring price of the LS600h L is $120K.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            That’s a negatory good buddy.

            MY13 Lincoln Zephyr Hybrid

            10/01/15 DFW Lease $19,300 7,482 Avg YQ-BLUE 4H A No
            10/14/15 FRDKBURG Regular $25,400 12,256 Above SILVER 4H N Yes
            09/23/15 DETROIT Factory $18,000 20,293 Avg MAROON 4H A Yes
            10/01/15 SO CAL Lease $20,700 24,909 Avg WHITE 4H A Yes
            09/24/15 CHICAGO Lease $18,500 48,755 Avg BLACK 4H A Yes
            10/12/15 CEN FLA Regular $18,000 56,609 Avg SILVER 4H A Yes
            10/09/15 FT LAUD Regular $17,400 57,204 Avg DKBLUE 4H A Yes
            10/14/15 NJ Lease $14,500 58,198 Below LTGREEN 4H A Yes

            MY13 Lincoln Zephyr Gas I4… Turbo?

            09/23/15 NEW MEX Regular $20,500 5,558 Above RED 4GT A Yes
            09/22/15 NASHVILL Lease $20,300 6,053 Above STL BLUE 4GT A Yes
            10/06/15 CHICAGO Lease $21,500 7,153 Above WHITE 4GT A Yes
            09/23/15 TAMPA Lease $19,900 11,448 Avg SILV-UX 4GT A Yes
            10/14/15 MINNEAP Lease $20,700 11,588 Above QUARTZ* 4GT A Yes
            10/15/15 CHICAGO Lease $20,600 14,181 Above DKBLACK 4GT A Yes
            10/07/15 NY Lease $17,700 14,862 Avg MAROON 4GT A Yes
            09/30/15 TAMPA Lease $19,600 15,316 Avg WHITE-UG 4GT A Yes
            09/29/15 NY Lease $20,200 16,121 Above BLUE 4GT A Yes
            09/29/15 SEATTLE Lease $23,000 16,392 Above RED 4GT A No
            10/09/15 FT LAUD Lease $19,300 16,455 Avg DKRED 4GT A Yes
            09/25/15 FT LAUD Lease $22,100 17,247 Above RED 4GT A Yes
            10/17/15 DETROIT Lease $18,100 17,538 Avg SILVER 4GT A Yes
            10/07/15 PITTSBGH Lease $20,700 17,956 Above GREY 4GT A Yes
            10/15/15 DETROIT Regular $20,900 18,425 Above WHITE 4GT A Yes
            10/07/15 DETROIT Lease $19,000 19,683 Avg GREY 4GT A Yes

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Well in the MKZ, the hybrid is definitely a better way to go than the 2.0T. They start at the same price, so I guess it makes sense as to why they have the same depreciation.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Initially when the CD4 came out the hybrid was doing very well, but of course petroleum futures were more than double what they are now…

            I declare CD4 Zepyhr Hybrid to be Smooth Jimmy’s Lock of the Week [for when gasoline rises in price be it from petroleum costs or stick it up your ass taxation]

      • 0 avatar
        ajla

        I actually kind of like the predator face on the GX and LS…

        • 0 avatar
          bball40dtw

          I don’t mind the current face on either. It is certainly more subdued than the NX. That thing is awful.

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            CPO Hyundai Genesis (sedan) and Equis are pretty reasonably priced (I’m just saying’…) Forgive me I keep looking at Genesis R models on Autotrader.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            The used Genesiseseseses that I have driven did not age well. Maybe the newer ones are better. At this point, I’d rather lease a new one than buy a used one.

          • 0 avatar
            ajla

            The old Genesis R-spec was a really nice car (it was a very close second when I was shopping), although the infotainment system is inferior to what is available in a high-trim Sentra and exterior color choices are very limited.

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            In my area you can get a Genesis R with less than 20,000 miles for less than $30,000 and have it be CPO with a warranty.

            Would I want a 2008? No. But when the 2013 has epic depreciation, I’ll be the guy picking it up after your lease expires. ;-)

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            If we lease anything, it will be a Navigator. My wife had one for a few days last week and she didn’t want to give it back.

        • 0 avatar
          Behind The Times

          Long time lurker, first post. Figured this was an OK place to chime in.

          We have a ’14 GX and ’15 GS. Had to get pretty comfortable with the predator faces, but we’re ok with them now. The rest of the cars make up for them, and the dealer experience really helps. I get a full day loaner for any kind of service, or they pick the car up at my workplace and drop it back later.

          Traded out of two BMWs after one of them cost more than $10k in repairs in 2014 alone. The GX is like a bank vault. There are few better places to be on the road after a stressful workday.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I like the Gs as well for the money. Do you miss having a front bumper though?

          • 0 avatar
            Behind The Times

            To be honest, I miss having 500hp in an E60 M5, which was tough to give up, but cost 10k in 2014 for clutch and flywheel, the Harmon amp, oil cooler, constant battery problems.

            May be in the market for a GS-F in a few years.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            M5, very nice. I will say this, after driving a 911 Carrera S I “get” those who are into those type of German cars and why you will put up with the price of entry and associated repair BS to get it. I’m not saying I’d do it, but now I get it.

            Oh and I was serious about the grille. I try not to but I tap guardrails every so often, the whole no bumper thing would be a big problem for me. Paint is already chipping off of mine in two spots.

  • avatar
    RideHeight

    Imagine the fun a photographer could have with people versions of these extreme light/dark teaser shots.

    A tastefully mascara’d sexy eye, a titillating, tight-framed glimpse of side boob…..

    Come the full reveal you discover… it’s Rosie!

  • avatar
    its me Dave

    I guess “vision of liberal luxury” doesn’t focus group as well as it did in the 20th century.

    • 0 avatar
      Luke42

      You watch way too much political “news”.

      I suppose progressive bifocals are “liberal” too? LOL. :-)

      As for me, I’m just hoping that they replace the predator face with something that isn’t ugly. A luxury car that’s as reliable as a Toyota means that you have to make one fewer compromise to go “upmarket”.

  • avatar
    Chocolatedeath

    I can see them doing a plug in LS.

  • avatar
    DeadWeight

    Here’s a bona fide sneak release of the front fascia that a stringer photog somehow got a hold of – take a peek before Lexus forces it down:

    https://

    lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V9faoxU-dOs/UnCYgxgVjPI/AAAAAAAAfgU/E7lPZUamy3U/s640/blogger-image–1871225135.jpg

    • 0 avatar
      DeeDub

      It’s good to see that they’re toning it down a bit from the NX!

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        lol.

        What are they smoking at Lexus, and why?

        I believe that the NX (essentially a badge-job Toyota RAV4) is as bad as Consumer Reports says it is, having ridden in one recently, to wit:

        “•Lexus NX 200/300. The new compact SUV edition form the Lexus line seems too much to Consumer Reports like the Toyota RAV4, especially the “jostling” ride. Some components feel cheap, and overall it falls short of German competitors.”

        My, how the mighty are falling! Lexus executives in Japan should be slicing bellies open with katanas and spilling their entrails all over the floors at Toyota HQ, along with their Acura peers, if there is any honor left amongst Japanese!

        I’d say the same & expect the same thing of Cadillac executives, but one has to be capable of feeling shame first in order to expect such an honorable action, so inept, clueless, incompetent Cadillac/General Motors executives get a pass.

        • 0 avatar
          bball40dtw

          The only honor left is that which comes with selling a fuckton of NXs to stupid Americans.

        • 0 avatar
          Chocolatedeath

          I have driven the NX as well and I dont get the praise it gets from the rag mags. I compared it too the MKC and was actually shocked how much better the MKC is in overall dynamics and interior quality.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            The MKC TROUNCES the NX in terms of interior materials, aesthetics/styling (interior & exterior) and drive dynamics.

            ..and I’m not even a huge fan of the MKC given its relatively high (and soaring to nosebleed levels with options) pricing.

            That’s how far Lexus is falling/failing with some new products – it’s incredible.

            Acura, Lexus & Cadillac are all in DeadWeight’s Doghouse, and at serious risk of being further demoted imminently.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            There is your series title: DeadWeight’s Doghouse.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            Needs more p!ss & vinegar!

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            That’s season two: Deadweight’s Doghouse: Now with more p!ss and vinegar!

  • avatar
    ajla

    It is keeping a V8 and getting an actual INCREASE in displacement? How often does that happen these days?

    Lexus is going to be offering 5 models with a V8.

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      The last time something went from 4.6L to 5.0L was the Mustang and F150.

      Lexus already uses the 5.0L in the LS600h, as well as other vehicles, so it makes sense to get rid of the 4.6L.

  • avatar
    Jezza819

    I think it’s something to do with the LS. If and when they decide to change the CT they’re not going to make a big deal about it.

  • avatar
    fishiftstick

    Progressive luxury-so I assume it will have fair trade organic brake fluid?

  • avatar
    Noble713

    Looks a lot like the headlights from the FT1/next-gen-Supra:

    http://tinyurl.com/pgtdzkg

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