By on October 12, 2015

2016 Audi A6 3.0T Exterior-001

Audi is a brand associated with all-wheel drive, well-fitted interiors and design evolution that requires you to park a new model next to an old one to tell what has been changed. The 2016 A6 doesn’t diverge much from this formula despite being a thorough refresh of the outgoing A6.

This Audi plays in the crowded midsize luxury pool with competition coming from every angle. The big boys are, of course, the BMW 5-Series and Mercedes-Benz E-Class, but 2016 also brings an all-new and all-aluminum Jaguar XF. We also have Cadillac’s latest CTS, a Maserati Ghibli for those that want something less reliable than a Jag, the Lexus GS and Infiniti Q70 from the land of the rising sun and the Koreans have the Genesis — and that’s before we start including the more distant competition from Volvo, Acura, Lincoln, etc. The last A6 was a midsized luxury unicorn, because not even Nissan thought they could sell a front-wheel drive luxury car in America with a CVT. As it turns out, not even Audi could defend the CVT in a luxury entry, so 2016 sees the end of Audi’s dalliance with the cogless tranny. Fear not folks, the A6 is still the odd German out since the base model is still front-wheel drive.


Exterior

The A6 is the farm girl in this segment with simple, wholesome lines that look refined and restrained. In a sea of aggressive and distinctive vehicle styles, the simple lines on the A6 are refreshing. Sure, Audi’s enormous grille has become a little meaner and the headlamps have gained a touch of “Angry Birds,” but the sheetmetal doesn’t seem to create same kind of polarizing reactions as Lexus’ F-Sport models.

Since 2016 is just a refresh, the A6 hasn’t gained any ground dimensionally compared to its predecessor. For Audi that’s not a problem since the A6 is already one of the larger entries in this category. Folks looking to upgrade from their CamCord should know that although the A6 is only a hair larger than Honda and Toyota’s midsize sedans, Audi’s long hood means you’ll find less room on the inside than the plebeian people haulers.

2016 Audi A6 3.0T Interior

2016 Audi A6 3.0T Prestige

3-liter DOHC V-6, supercharged (333 horsepower @ 5,500-6,500 rpm;

325 pounds-feed @ 2,900-5,300 rpm) 8-speed ZF Automatic, Quattro AWD 20 city / 30 highway / 24 combined (EPA Rating, MPG) 21.5 (Observed, MPG)

Tested Options: Black optics package, S-line package, Cold weather package, Rear side airbags

Base Price: $62,525* As Tested: $66,675* * Prices include $925 destination charge.

Interior

Fit and finish in our tester was generally excellent, however the optional heads-up display looks distinctly out of place. Unlike most luxury cars that use a slightly different dashboard design when HUD is equipped, Audi tacks on a very large “donut” on top of the gauge binnacle to house the projection unit. The result is a look that is less polished than the Cadillac or BMW. Since the HUD doesn’t provide quite as much information as the 5-Series’ display, it’s a $900 option I’d skip. The other area where you can see the A6’s age is in the overall design that doesn’t mimic the new A4 or A8. You also won’t find the latest in luxury interior options at any price such as a stitched leather dash like you find in the 5-Series (or even the Volvo.)

The front seats are among the best in the category, and leather upholstery is standard unlike many luxury brands that are equipping more and more cars with pleather. Rear seat headroom is generous thanks to the upright exterior profile and you’ll find two inches more legroom in the back than the E or 5. Of course, if rear passenger accommodations are your thing, the larger Genesis offers yet more room and the drivetrain packaging of the RLX expands things even further.

2016 Audi A6 3.0T Instrument Cluster.0T Interior-005

Infotainment

Audi’s MMI infotainment system has received a major overhaul for 2016 with new hardware and a faster graphics processor. The new hardware allows for smoother animation and screen changes, but we still don’t find expanded voice commands for USB/iDevice media library control like you find in the Lexus, Cadillac and Acura. The refreshed software adds support for a few new Internet-connected features such as INRIX traffic information as well as Apple Siri Eyes Free support. Sadly CarPlay and Android Auto were not along for the ride. On the hardware level, there’s a new LTE cell modem for faster downloads and an integrated WiFi hotspot.

The 8-inch LCD that is the heart of the system remains unchanged, and is still sporting a standard aspect ratio rather than the widescreen format preferred by BMW. Nestled between the speedometer and tachometer is an optional 7-inch LCD with an expanded feature set that includes a full navigation display with moving 3-D map and topographical information. Perhaps the most important change for 2016 may be the simplest: Audi finally ditched their proprietary media interface cable. Lifting the center armrest reveals two regular USB ports and you can now connect your device with any old cable you have lying around.

2016 Audi A6 3.0T Engine-002

Drivetrain

Base models get a revised 2-liter turbocharged four cylinder engine bumping power from 220 to 252 horsepower and torque from 258 to 273 pounds-feet. In addition to the increase in oomph, the fun-sucking CVT has been replaced with a 7-speed dual clutch transmission (related to 7-speed DCT in the S6) that sends power to the front wheels. If you want AWD, Audi swaps the DCT for a ZF-sourced 8-speed automatic. This strikes me as an odd choice when obviously the DCT in the S6 is Quattro compatible. The model we tested uses a refreshed 3-liter, supercharged V-6 that now cranks out 333 horsepower and 325 pounds-feet of torque. If you feel the need for speed, the S6’s 4-liter, turbocharged V-8 has been tweaked as well, now making 450 horsepower and 406 pounds-feet of torque, and it’s still mated to a 7-speed DCT. The only engine left untouched is the 3-liter V-6 turbocharged diesel that is still rated for 240 horsepower and 428 pounds-feet. As of this review, this diesel is untouched by the VW/Audi dieselgate drama.

The front-wheel drive A6 is unique — more than usual — since it still uses a longitudinal engine layout rather than the transverse design more common in FWD cars. This orientation is a byproduct of Audi’s Quattro design and their desire to reduce curb weight since the FWD 2.0T should be a little lighter than a RWD variant of the same model.

But we’re here to talk about the 3.0T, which has standard AWD. Audi’s Quattro integrates the center and front differentials into the case of the ZF 8-speed transmission, and places the entire engine in front of the front axle. This engine placement means that the A6 carries a greater percentage of its weight on the front wheels than essentially every RWD competitor. However, don’t confuse a front-heavy weight distribution with a front wheel drive power bias. The A6 may be “nose heavy” but the majority of the power is actually sent to the rear wheels. This is what separates the A6 from Lincoln or Volvo AWD systems that can never send more than 50 percent of the power to the rear axle unless there is wheel slip.

2016 Audi A6 3.0T Exterior-004

Drive

The A6 may carry more weight up front than a 535i xDrive or a Mercedes E400 4Matic, but in reality it doesn’t handle that differently until 9/10ths. Let’s be honest, the average buyer of a $65,000 luxury sedan will rarely find themselves at 9/10ths. However, should you end up there, the A6’s front end will display a reluctance to turn that you won’t find in the more neutrally balanced rear wheel drive competition. On the flip side, the A6 won’t handle that different from the increasingly popular AWD competition.

At 4,178 pounds, the A6 is about 400 pounds heavier than the Jaguar XF, 200 pounds heavier than a CTS VSport, but is actually a hair lighter than the BMW 535i xDrive. Curb weight is critical when it comes to handling, so it should be no surprise that the well-tuned suspensions and lighter curb weights in the Jaguar and Cadillac give them the edge when it comes to handling ability and feel (when equipped comparably.) What may be a surprise is just how close the A6 3.0T and 535i xDrive really are in terms of ability and feel. That’s due as much to Audi’s constant refinement of their steering and suspension systems (and the addition of wide tires) as BMW’s 5-Series getting heavier and more isolated with every revision.

2016 Audi A6 3.0T Exterior-010

The 2016 power bump is appreciated and noticeable and allows the A6 3.0T Quattro to scoot to 60 just 8/100ths slower than the last two wheel drive 535i I tested and the Audi actually clocked 1 mph better in the 1/4 mile. Interestingly, the 0-30 time of 2.14 seconds was notably slower than the 1.9 seconds I clocked in the 535 despite the fact that generally superchargers improve low-end torque. The steering is numb, but accurate, and slightly heavy in corners. Despite the curb weight, our 60-0 braking test measured an impressive 112 feet thanks to the optional 255 width rubber.

Audi’s final sales proposition has long been its price. Starting at $46,200, the A6 is one of the least-expensive sedans in this category — actually undercutting the GS 350 by $2,400 and the RLX by an eye-watering $8,250. Indeed, just the Cadillac CTS and Volvo S80 are less expensive. That said, the A6 2.0T isn’t the best deal anymore. The base CTS may have an old 6-speed automatic, but it’s heaps more fun than the FWD Audi. The Volvo’s dynamics aren’t any worse than the Audi in FWD form and Volvo tosses in more goodies for the same price with a dollop of increased fuel economy.

2016 Audi A6 3.0T Exterior-014

Jump to our 3.0T tester and things improve. At $57,400, the A6 undercuts a comparable 535i by $1,000, the E400 by nearly $6,000 and it’s just a few hundred more than a comparably equipped (but slower) CTS 3.6 AWD. Unfortunately for Audi, Jaguar’s new XF has been priced very aggressively and not only out-handles and out-accelerates the A6, but it undercuts the Audi by nearly $3,000 even when equipped with AWD. Jag’s new midsized sedan also beats Audi at the simple good looks game as well.

The A6’s 2016 refresh keeps the Audi in the lead of the German pack, slotting above the 535i xDrive and E400 4Matic where it counts. The Audi is less expensive, feels more fun to drive on your daily commute and flies just under the radar. The A6 is also attractive alternative to the well-priced GS 350 delivering a more premium experience and better performance than the Lexus. It goes without saying that you’d have to be insane to buy an Acura RLX over the Audi. Where the A6 stumbles however is when it is pitted against the less mainstream competition. The XF is a better deal, it’s faster and it handles better. The Genesis gives you V8 power, RWD dynamics and a longer warranty for less and Cadillac’s CTS is the naturally aspirated 5-series you have fond memories about. If my cash was on the line, I’d probably gamble on that new XF, but Audi’s second place isn’t a bad place to be.

 

Audi provided the vehicle, insurance and one tank of gas for this review

Specifications as tested

0-30: 2.14 Seconds

0-60: 5.38 Seconds

1/4 Mile: 13.9 Seconds @ 102 MPH

 

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59 Comments on “2016 Audi A6 3.0T Review (With Video)...”


  • avatar
    jmo

    “Let’s be honest, the average buyer of a $65,000 luxury sedan will rarely find themselves at 9/10ths. ”

    Yet you felt the need to mention it. Yet, what $65k luxury sedan buyers do care about – ride quality – you didn’t feel the need to even mention.

    • 0 avatar
      Jeff Waingrow

      I had the same reaction. Most buyers of these cars will care a great deal about ride quality. To not even mention it is a major oversight.

      • 0 avatar
        RideHeight

        He’s not alone. Many, many reviews short or exclude any mention of ride quality except as it pertains to “handling” (to me a Filthie Worde).

        I’m half convinced it’s because the combination of terrible roads, stiff suspensions and insanely oversized alloys have destroyed ride *comfort*. It’s the new elephant in the room and gets ignored.

        • 0 avatar
          gtemnykh

          My biggest surprise was when I finally drove one of the vaunted “panthers” a few years back, an ’04 Crown Victoria with 32k miles in the used car section at a local Ford dealer. These things don’t actually ride that soft. A recent test drive of a 2016 Outback (with the 17 inch wheels) left me VERY impressed, definitely a strong point of that vehicle.

          Far and away the smoothest “boulevard ride” I’ve experienced was in a early 2000s Volga GAZ-3110 in rural Siberia. It belonged to my cousin’s friend, they live in a village with literally no paved roads. This thing was like riding on a cloud, regardless of what surface you were driving over. Now along with that it pitched around endlessly, shocks don’t last very long in that locale and Volgas are notoriously sloppy handlers right from the factory.

          His looks exactly like this, down to the paint and steel wheels (and dirt):
          linkhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/GAZ-3110_(1997-2004).jpg

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            That Volga looks like if someone who was a janitor at Rover in 1993 heard a BMW described over a cell phone, and then asked to draw it.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Communist cars are often very depressing looking.

            I would like a GAZ-66 though.

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            It actually uses the same door and roof skins as the original GAZ-24, which was released back in 1970. Preferred car of the police and taxi drivers, so it is very much the Russian Panther. Terrible resale value, they’re universally known to have awful build quality and component quality. Most serious owners simply replace things like fuel pumps, mufflers, ball joints with German/Finnish made parts. You can buy a used Volga for less than a similar age/condition used Lada, that should tell you something.

    • 0 avatar
      Mike N.

      My experience with the Audi longitudinal engine/front-drive based drivetrain layout is that you can either have good handling or a nice ride, but not both.

  • avatar
    Hummer

    I really hope for your sake the rear side airbags weren’t actually a *tested* option. As for the rest of the car, a S/C V6 with V8 fuel economy and N/A V6 power, and the same tired old styling that almost all the luxury brands are doing, but who cares, as long as there are buyers that believe a badge can make them feel better about themselves regardless of the actual meat, doesn’t matter.

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      You can’t get a V8 in any of the cars in this segment unless you jump into a performance version with an eye watering price. Too bad Cadillac didn’t decide to offer the CTS with an LT engine. Even when they bring out the CTS-V, you’ll only be able to get a supercharged V8. I find it sad.

      • 0 avatar
        Hummer

        What reason is there to buy this if your not preversely turned on by the badge? Dodge will give you all the comfort and power, and reliability is probably equal to or better than anything from Europe, the SS is still here for a short time longer, and it’s a beautiful match of performance and capability, and if your all about pushing a car to its limit both the Mustang and Corvette will do it. All of them at a lower price than this.
        What do premium cars have as advantages today? None of these features make it stand out above and beyond cars that are supposably lower in the food chain. Unless it’s a handmade car premium brands don’t have a legitimate leg to stand on anymore.

        People must go to the dealer and think, this car sucks, and it’s going to financially kill me, but if just one person thinks I’m cool, it was all worth it.
        This cars even in the favorite color of euro lux buyer demographics “I Have No Personality Silver”.

        • 0 avatar
          jmo

          The interior is not nearly nice in a Dodge.

        • 0 avatar
          bball40dtw

          Compared to the 300/Charger, the A6/5/E/GS/CTS are on another level when it comes to interior materials and fit an finish. It isn’t even close. I can’t comment on reliability of the A6, but the Charger/300 will be average at best.

          The badge matters so much that Ford and GM don’t even try, or barely try to make a RWD mainstream sedan (the SS is little more than GM trying to sell a few more units from that Australian plant before it’s closed).

        • 0 avatar
          VoGo

          If you truly believe that Dodge and Audi are in the same competitive set, then your time may be better spent elsewhere.

        • 0 avatar
          ajla

          “Dodge will give you all the comfort and power, and reliability is probably equal to or better than anything from Europe”

          Aside from ride quality, this is very incorrect.

      • 0 avatar
        MBella

        While the regular V8 has gone away, the turbo V6 that is used inany of the Mercedes 400s has V8 power. The supercharged V6 in these Audis feels like it can’t match a naturally aspirated Mercedes.

  • avatar
    HungryHill

    Cars in this price range are pretty much the same. They look the same, they drive the same, the interiors are very similar and they are all pretty much boring cars. The only differentiating factor is reliability…I chose the GS350.

  • avatar
    HungryHill

    Cars in this price range are pretty much the same. They look the same, they drive the same, the interiors are very similar and they are all very boring cars. The only differentiating factor is reliability…I chose the GS350.

    • 0 avatar
      Marone

      With that comment I’m guessing that either haven’t driven these competitors or your driving expectations are far different than mine. I do admit that i have no desire to be in this category. Seems you have found the right car for you.

  • avatar
    Marone

    “At 4,178 pounds, the A6 is about 400 pounds heavier than the Jaguar XF” – I continue to be surprised by these numbers even though really I shouldn’t anymore. This and Audi’s continued issues with understeer are where Quattro is helpful.

  • avatar
    energetik9

    “Nestled between the speedometer and tachometer is an optional 7-inch LCD with an expanded feature set that includes a full navigation display with moving 3-D map and topographical information”

    This strikes me as very gimmicky. I get that it likely displays more than just nag, but you already have a nav screen, so why have a second moving map in-between your tach and speedo? It just strikes me as useless tech for tech purposes onl with no purposeful gain. My current car has the nag screen and in a small corner between the tach and speedo provides an additional arrow display with distance. As in turn left, 2.5 miles.

    • 0 avatar
      PeriSoft

      My Sonata has the arrow / distance indicator in the center of the dash, and I wouldn’t mind at all if it had a map. It’s easier to glance at; if the map was there I wouldn’t even need to be looking at the main screen most of the time – and that, especially during night driving when I prefer to have as little light as possible ruining my vision, would be a definite bonus.

  • avatar
    Master Baiter

    At this price, I’d rather have the Mercedes or BMW vs. this front-drive, tarted-up Volkswagen.

    • 0 avatar
      hreardon

      The A6 shares practically nothing with Volkswagen branded products. Audi utilizes their own kit program (MLB) while Volkswagen has MQB (which *is* shared with Audi).

      Outside of a few lowest-common-denominator components, they are very distinct.

  • avatar
    Jack Denver

    A fully equipped Subaru Legacy 3.6 is almost exactly 1/2 the price of this car. I don’t see anything here (besides the badge) that makes this car worth twice as much money. Five or six years from now, they will probably be worth about the same money because the price of the Audi will be discounted in the market to reflect all the future expensive repairs that can be anticipated. Can anyone explain the value proposition to me once you put aside brand prestige?

    • 0 avatar
      jmo

      Did you compare the interior, ride quality, NVH? There is a pretty big difference between the two.

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        lol Subaru interior. I’m sure the Audi has a little bit better NVH as well…

        • 0 avatar
          Jack Denver

          Have you seen the inside of a current Legacy in premium trim:

          http://www.picautos.com/images/subaru-legacy-3.6-r-limited-05.jpg

          It doesn’t look like a joke to me.

          I’m sure the Audi is slightly nicer, but TWICE as nice?

          Obviously, you get SOMETHING for the additional $32,000 on an Audi, but do you get $32,000 worth of marginal improvement?

          • 0 avatar
            jmo

            Twice as nice? I’d be willing to wager that the budget for interior materials, design and assembly on the Audi was more than twice as much as the Subaru.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Yeah, I’ve driven the Legacy. It’s fine. The interior isn’t even the best in it’s segment, let alone Audi quality. It also has way more road noise and unwanted powertrain noise than the A6. I’m not saying it’s a bad car, but the Legacy is not a premium car.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            The Legacy is more of a rental car, and has said image. It is not a luxury car, nor has any Subaru interior past 2002 felt very nice or solid.

            The 3.6 is NOT a good V6 implementation, either.

            I’d take a V6 Accord any day of the week over the Legacy.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            If someone wants an AWD midsized sedan for $30K, it’s a Fusion, 200, or Legacy. The Legacy has a better AWD system but the Fusion is nicer inside and out. The 200 is the 200. I get the niche for the top spec Legacy, but let’s not pretend like it’s an A6.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I concur. I’d have the Fusion as well, though I do feel it’s common-ness and usually sighted lower trim levels drag it down a bit.

            I don’t consider Chrysler vehicles beyond RAM or select Jeep items on par with other competitors at all.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Lower spec Fusion = ewwwwwwwwwwww

            Almost as bad as the Escape S.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Oh, your Escape has big amber driving lamps in the front?

            Why don’t you work harder.

          • 0 avatar
            Jack Denver

            “The 3.6 is NOT a good V6 implementation, either.”

            Actually it’s not a V6 at all. It’s not a state of the art engine in terms of hp/cc but it seems pretty bulletproof and does not suffer from headgasket issues.

            “I’d be willing to wager that the budget for interior materials, design and assembly on the Audi was more than twice as much as the Subaru.”

            I’d take that bet (though due to union featherbedding, Audi labor costs are inflated).

            “The Legacy is more of a rental car, and has said image.”

            I said to put image aside and look at what you actually get. I don’t think the 3.6 is in rental fleets anyway.

            “I’d take a V6 Accord any day of the week over the Legacy.”

            Except that you can’t get an Accord in AWD.

            As for the Fusion, to me a 2.0L four is not the same thing as a 3.6L six, even if you get the same power out of it by turbocharging. Among other things, I don’t think the longevity and long term repair costs will be close to comparable. Subaru has its own turbo fours but they don’t put them in the Legacy/Outback for that reason.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            @Jack

            My bad, I always say V6, even if talking I-6 or Boxer-6 as here.

            “Except that you can’t get an Accord in AWD.”

            Indeed, Fusion AWD it is then. (In reality I’d get something used, and likely upgrade to the MKZ, if we’re playing pretend.)

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      It has nothing to do with a value proposition. If it was all about value proposition we’d all be driving subcompact hatemobiles.

      • 0 avatar
        windnsea00

        Exactly, I mean if one can’t distinguish the differences in materials, fit and finish, refinement, style, etc. between an A6 and a Legacy then they are in luck as they will be able to save a nice chunk of change.

        Also buyers of these vehicles typically are not worried about long term reliability as they are often leased or traded in after 4-5 years. I lease a M3 for instance, long term reliability doesn’t really concern me as the car will be long gone before major issues arise.

    • 0 avatar
      duncanator

      I used to own a 2012 Subaru and even looked at some of the 2015 models before I bought my A3. Let me say that there is absolutely no comparison between any Audi and Subaru. Interior quality, road noise, and the Subaru CVT are all reasons I switched to Audi. I loved the visibility in my old Subaru, but they really aren’t comparable. The one thing that I will give Subaru is that they are much cheaper to repair.

      • 0 avatar
        Dave M.

        Yeah, I’m a huge Subaru fanboy based on ownership but I wouldn’t put the Legacy in anywhere near the same league as the A6.

        Would love me an A4 Quattro though…

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    “Curb weight is critical when it comes to handling”

    Yes, you want more of it – to take turns with extra smoothness and luxury.

    I almost feel like the CTS and RLX can’t be mentioned with the rest of these, because of their A) brand issues, B) the CTS’s interior quality and lackadaisical 3.6, and C) the RLX has a ridiculous drive train and is too expensive. And ugly. Oh and D) the CTS is aging poorly; Art and Science is very 2002.

    With Audi continuing to go with “same car different size” against their better styling judgment, I’d almost consider going with the E-Class now. Interested to hear from someone who’s been in both the current A6 and the E, to see what they have to say. Everything I’ve read has said Mercedes is really stepping up interior materials and quality with their newest models.

    It’s also disappointing that you can’t get a nice NA 4.2 V8 in the A6 any more. That was the best engine for smooth motoring. Though I like they’re doing supercharging rather than turbo.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    “Volvo tosses in more goodies for the same price with a dollop of increased fuel economy.”

    They should, because they’re selling you 8 year old Wonder bread, to everyone else’s Whole Foods 12-grain.

    Except for Acura, which offers you a corn tortilla when you ask for bread.

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    I have yet to read one bad thing about the Jag XF.

    It seems finding an off lease CPO car with a liberal extended warranty would be a great deal in a few years.

  • avatar
    PriusV16

    Man, I’d so RUN down to the Audi dealer to buy such an A6 if I had the dough.

    To me, this A6 has a distinctive style, elegance, and beauty that no other competitor has. It’s such a gorgeous-looking sedan.

    I’d take mine as a quattro, of course, and with the torquey 3-litre Diesel engine, please.

    Two things struck me as odd, however:

    No wagon love for the U.S. market? The only thing more appealing than an A6 sedan is an A6 Avant, IMHO.

    And no RS6 for the U.S., either?

    An RS6 Avant quattro would be perfect for those who think about a Lamborghini but actually want a practical car at the same time.

  • avatar
    wristtwist

    Alex, when are you going to get your hands on a new Miata?

  • avatar
    suspekt

    1/4 = 13.9 @ 102

    Funny,
    For all that motor (and complexity),
    a V6 Accord will run right with it and maybe start pulling away.

    • 0 avatar
      VoGo

      They are really different vehicles. I own a 2013 Accord and a 2005 A6. The Audi has a far superior interior, even giving the Honda 7 years of time to advance their design, and 7 years of additional wear and tear. The A6 interior appears almost as new, except that the electronics are older (i.e., no bluetooth or keyless ignition)

      That said, Audi also has a superior quantity of lights on the dashboard lit up, so… horses for courses.

  • avatar
    chiefmonkey

    Funny how few of these I notice on the road. The styling of the A6 has gotten almost too conservative over time…

  • avatar
    mjal

    So, CoreyDL says Caddy and Acura can’t be considered with Audi because of their “brand issues” ? So I guess we can completely separate Audi from VW and what’s happened over the past few weeks?

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Long standing brand issues (decade+) ≠ temporary media frenzy issue.
      VW ≠ Audi
      VW ≠ Bentley
      VW ≠ Porsche

      Make sense?

    • 0 avatar
      hreardon

      I’ll add to this: within a year this scandal will be forgotten, just like the Honda airbags, the Toyota acceleration, Jeep exploding gasoline tanks, Chevy ignition locks, Ford Explorer Firestone tires, etc., etc., etc.

      The mass market doesn’t really correlate brand ownership.

  • avatar
    mjal

    CoreyDL: You didn’t state “long standing brand issues” in your post, you said Caddy & Acura had brand issues. Only a fool would say Audi is not suffering some kind of brand issues right now given Audi & VW share certain mechanical components, namely their smaller diesel engines. So, foot traffic has not slowed at all at a typical Audi dealership over this scandal?

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Ok, if I knew you were going to read exactly only the words I wrote and consider nothing else, I’d have been more specific.

      *long standing brand issues.
      *Acura and Cadillac as car companies.
      *Audi non-diesel.

      **Try using the reply button, rather than generating a new post each time.

    • 0 avatar
      Dave M.

      Slowed? Possibly. Permanently? I doubt it. VW has been tagged with this because they’re The Peoples Car and hip every 20 years or so. Audi is Audi, and not a big TDI seller…

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