By on January 22, 2015

Toyota Mirai in Red

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25 Comments on “While You Were Sleeping: January 22, 2015...”


  • avatar
    319583076

    I’m looking forward to reading the Renegade review.

    • 0 avatar
      Vulpine

      Agreed. I’ve read a lot of good words about it and I have to admit the Fiat 500 surprised me with its performance with a mere 101hp and 6-speed automatic. Given that experience, I think the Renegade could be a very popular SUV since it doesn’t actively carry the Fiat name.

    • 0 avatar
      caltemus

      If it can handle more than a subaru outback offroad then I’m sold.

      • 0 avatar
        319583076

        seems like pricing and specs have leaked…6MT only available with the 1.4 turbo on the lower trims, 2.4 with 9AT available on lower trims, standard on higher trims. I’m interested in the 6MT lower trim 4×4, but I dunno if I can live with a turbo 1.4…

  • avatar
    Land Ark

    Motorists are too poor to fix their cars

    Correct headline: Motorists continue to be too cheap and lazy to fix their cars as they have been since the beginning of time.

    What’s next? A hard hitting expose on how 12 per cent of Brits have put off a much needed haircut for more than a week?

    I will say, however, that when I was working for a major US insurance company I was walking around the yard of the service center and I noticed that of the 5 rollback trucks in the lot dropping off wrecked cars, each one had completely bald front tires. It still gives me an uneasiness any time I see one driving in the wet.

    • 0 avatar
      Vulpine

      “… I noticed that of the 5 rollback trucks in the lot dropping off wrecked cars, each one had completely bald front tires.”
      — Each one what? Rollback trucks or the cars they were dropping off?

      That said, you are essentially correct; most drivers today don’t understand, don’t want to understand and simply don’t care that their cars need regular servicing. They’re going to drive them ’til they crash or break to the point they can’t cheaply fix them and get something else. It’s great that today’s cars can last for a million miles or more, but the vast majority of them will never even see 100K miles.

      • 0 avatar
        Land Ark

        I contemplated rewording that, but the rollbacks all had bald front tires.

        The main thing is that lack of maintenance isn’t a new phenomenon and isn’t related to the economy or any factors outside the majority of people not wanting to be bothered. It’s not limited to just cars either, pick any other consumable in people’s lives that requires maintenance and you will see the exact same trends.

      • 0 avatar
        redav

        “the vast majority of them will never even see 100K miles”

        That does not strike me as true. Considering the average age of cars in the US is pushing 12 yr, that leads me to conclude that at least on average, most cars eclipse the 100k mi threshold.

  • avatar
    Vulpine

    * Fake Noise — A great way to pretend you have more car than you do. As people get used to having smaller engines in their cars, that fake noise thing will go away.

    * Cadillac CT6 — Maybe for some this will be a major event; I’ll admit I used to like the Cadillac brand. However, since they’ve gone to this newer design paradigm, they just don’t interest me any more. They don’t look like anything before them in the brand and they simply come across as ‘edgy’… like the designers drank too much coffee before starting and squared off all the edges. At least the Lincoln models have some legacy design in them with their current “angel wing” grills. They actually do remind you of where the Lincoln came from.

    * Toyota Mirai — First off, the car is just plain ugly to me. Yes, it does have personality, but it comes across like a mustachioed bully, trying to subdue you with its angry appearance with nothing really behind it. The hydrogen-car concept is valid if you’re looking for a way to clean emissions, but it is even less economical in actual energy usage than a gasoline car, well to wheel. I expect hydrogen fuel prices will demonstrate this once they become more ubiquitous. I expect the price at the pump will be no less than gasoline for the same relative energy and likely more for the same miles driven. Just as there are those who call the Tesla a status symbol, this will be no less of one for all that certain governments are pushing for their adoption.

    * UK automobile maintenance — I’ve already commented on this above. To make it simple, the average driver simply doesn’t care.

    * Tokyo’s fuel cell cars — this ties in directly to my comment above about hydrogen cars and the Mirai in particular.

    • 0 avatar
      redav

      Re: fake noise

      On one side you have people paying good money for a luxury car that’s quiet, and on the other you have car makers installing piped-in sound (or stereo induced sound).

  • avatar
    JMII

    The fake noise is so silly… people complain that interiors are too loud so OEMs put all kinds of sound absorbing material in (which is heavy), then pipe fake engine sounds thru the stereo? Oxymoron for sure. If I wanted my Z to be louder I would just fit an aftermarket exhaust, or straight/test pipes old school style.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Very silly indeed. I will never desire more noise inside any car. In fact I would love to know what the most quiet car (normal car speaking, nothing exotic) is, based upon interior dB at speed (60mph or what have you). I bet it’s a Buick.

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      @JMII, yup the way I like it is a growl at idle but not “droning on” having a weird resonance at certain highway RPMs.

      I find many non-enthusiast modern vehicles to be so quiet at idle that you have to pay attention to know that they are running. I’m seriously considering having a custom dual tip setup done for my Highlander V6, split the exhaust after the catalytic converter and give me some nice stainless steel tips on each side. I love the appearance of dual exhaust.

      Every V style engine ought to have dual exhaust from the factory.

      • 0 avatar

        I drive a recent 5.0, did not go as far as installing the Outlaw, but did up the amps so I can hear what the engine is doing without having the windows down. I can tell you, it is the best part of owning the car. Now if my wife’s Kia had the same noise I would find it annoying. And if I was in a Ferrari I would expect it to sing to me.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      Agreed. Fake noise is stupid.

      Fake car noises and faking orgasm….WTF?

      ……… real men can handle the truth ;)

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    The CT6 is to replace the CTS, yeah? Or was the CT6 the bigger thing which is “supposed to be S-class” or whatever, and a replacement for the XTS?

  • avatar
    doublechili

    I have a 2007 Civic SI, and one of my favorite things about the car is the engine noise. Part of it is kinda cheating (exhaust), but the VTEC engine whine is great. Hearing is one of the senses that communicates the process to the driver, especially in a MT car.

    However, digital sound enhancement is cheesy. Another reason to dislike those pickups. ;)

  • avatar
    NoGoYo

    Engine noise and handling is all my beat up old T-Bird has going for it…it’s not fast, and it clearly doesn’t look cool because nobody ever tells me so.

  • avatar
    fishiftstick

    Direct injection is good for performance, but it sounds awful. In the Accord, Honda uses the opposite of fake noise–active noise cancellation. I’m fine with fake noise for those who want it, as long as there is a way for the rest of us to turn it OFF.
    If Cadillac must ape the Germans, ape them properly: have one character that indicates the body style, and another that indicates the engine. Honestly, what does CT6 tell you about the product? It could be a subcompact hatchback. Or a blender, for that matter. Can’t Cadillac use names that are part of their heritage?
    The Toyota Mirai looks fine. What’s that? You don’t like vampires? Oh, okay. In that case it looks horrible.

  • avatar

    Is your car faking it?

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    That’s the most frightening photo of a Mirai I’ve seen.

    Fake noise – well, the fake noise of the BMW i8 sounds tremendous:
    “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7G8mVOUUAQ”

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