By on January 26, 2015

Audi FCV At Cal State LA Fueling Station

Cal State L.A. now has the first hydrogen fueling station in California certified to sell the fuel by the kilogram.

The university’s Hydrogen Research and Fueling Facility received its approval this month after undergoing and passing “a rigorous state performance evaluation.” The fueling station, which opened in May 2014, is the largest on-campus hydrogen fueling station in the United States, and produces hydrogen from solar and wind power.

Cal State president William A. Covino said the station not only plays “a crucial role in helping situate California as a national leader in zero emission vehicles,” but gives the university a chance to work on “cutting-edge research and technology initiatives with government agencies” on its path to improving air quality in Los Angeles and other cities in the U.S.

Visitors to the station include prototypes from the likes of Audi, Hyundai and General Motors, whose tanks can hold up to six kilograms of hydrogen, each kilogram good for 50 miles of travel. The station, located near downtown Los Angeles and Interstates 10 and 5, can fill these tanks in six minutes.

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10 Comments on “California University First In State Certified To Sell Hydrogen...”


  • avatar
    Hummer

    I wonder if GM is still showing off the Hydrogen H2, it was still being used by engineers as late as early 2014. IIRC, one problem they had was the 6.0 vortec required a turbo, as the engine only made 2/3 the power when running on hydrogen.

    Is UCLA and Cal state two different schools, I would assume so. Either way this must have cost them several hundred million, much tax payer money I’m sure.

    Still the amount of energy and money required really make a hydrogen station wasteful, I highly doubt consumers will be paying the actual cost of the fuel. With land taxes, cost of mowing and maintaining the lands the energy is made on, then the expensive operation costs of windmills, no way the fuel isn’t also subsidized. That’s a lot of land to provide energy for mass hydrogen production.

  • avatar
    stevelyon

    Is this somehow different than the way stations have already been selling Hydrogen in California for years now? There’s a hydrogen Shell station just down the street from my apartment, and the map on the California Fuel Cell partnership website, which hasn’t been updated in awhile, says there are already 8 stations in the state.

  • avatar
    redav

    Additional information that would have been useful:
    – Current price of hydrogen at this station

    And then, just because I’m a smart-as:
    – What efficiency losses to do they observe with converting the electricity generated from wind & solar to get the hydrogen.

    • 0 avatar
      Brian P

      The answer to the first one is “not the true cost”.

      The answer to the second one is “you don’t want to know”.

    • 0 avatar
      mcs

      What’s the maintenance cost? It’s a 10,000 psi pump, so you’re going to need specialized training (as opposed to any electrician with EVSE) to maintain it. I’m sure you’ll need inspectors – again specially trained. How often does it need to be inspected?

    • 0 avatar
      WheelMcCoy

      “And then, just because I’m a smart-as:
      – What efficiency losses to do they observe with converting the electricity generated from wind & solar to get the hydrogen.”

      You go to the head of the class. It’s a university and you are asking a fair question.

  • avatar
    Sigivald

    By the kilogram?

    What is this, *Russia*?

    (I kid. But it’s funny. Do they get fined if they sell it by the pound?)

  • avatar
    JimC2

    “a crucial role in helping situate California as a national leader in zero emission vehicles”

    Um, hydrogen fueled engines still make some emissions (NOx), so shouldn’t this statement be “near-zero emission” or “ultra-low emission?” Words have meaning, Mr. President, and your fine institution is using taxpayer money to teach science to the intellectual elite of our youth. ;)

    • 0 avatar
      SunnyvaleCA

      Since the wind farms are now being used to produce “zero emission” hydrogen, our electrical power supply is now generated from a higher mix of non-zero-emission sources. Worse, since hydrogen generation and use is so inefficient, we’d have overall lower emissions by canceling the H2 cars, moving to natural gas cars (filled right at home using existing infrastructure!), and using the freed up wind generation to power the electrical grid.

      Look on the bright side… hydrogen cars will make ethanol from corn look like a stroke of genius!

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