Ford Sources Say Derek Is Wrong About New Ford GT

by Derek Kreindler

November 25th, 2014 12:25 PM

ford sources say derek is wrong about new ford gt

Bob Lutz is not the only one who is “often wrong, never in doubt”. When I penned my Ford GT editorial, I had a pretty sound case for believing that the latest reports of a successor to Ford’s supercar were little more than clickbait. By usually reliable sources inside the Blue Oval seemed to concur. And then I got a phone call from someone who is placed highly enough to know.

It turns out that our sources didn’t initially see any indication of a new GT program because it’s not being done through the usual channels. It will be a *very* limited product car, of around 300 units, and built by a third-party like Multimatic. Power will come from a 3.5L Ecoboost, to maintain a connection with Ford’s sports car racing program. The car will be priced as you’d expect a limited-production 300-unit halo car to be priced.

N.B. The identity of the source checks out, but there is still the chance that it could all be a bunch of BS misinformation. However, I felt it prudent to put this on the public record in case I am wrong. My obligation to you, the readers, comes before my own pride/ego.

#DaytonaPrototype #EcoBoost #Ford #FordGT

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STRATOS on Nov 25, 2014

Does Ford even have high performance parts for sale for their turbo engines?

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- Bball40dtw on Nov 25, 2014
  
  For the 2.0T, they have some stuff. The 2.3T, 2.7TT, and 3.5TT don't have any Ford Racing parts right now. I would expect that to change as the 2.3T gets put into more performance platforms (Focus RS, Mustang). The 3.5TT should also be found in performance applications in the future. The Raptor is supposedly going turbo, plus, can they keep the 3.5TT out of the Mustang forever? I think no.
  
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Jhefner on Nov 25, 2014

That nose is interesting...it looks more Ford 2005 than Ford 2015. See NASCAR Taurus in the grill, and first generation Fusion in the headlights.

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Tresmonos on Nov 25, 2014

Who the hell wants a limited run, garage built car with a Blue Oval on it? This is the equivalent of some Factory Five cobra that was put together by 2 old Product Development Engineers with left over parts from the 2010 SHO launch and christened with the blessing from the licensing department at Ford. No production tooling, PPAP or GPDS program? That means this is some hobbyist piece of garbage.

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- Doctorv8 on Nov 25, 2014
  
  tresmonos, do you think before you type, or do you just spew out random nonsensical BS? You do realize that the 05-06 GT wasn't "some hobbyist piece of garbage," don't you? Why would this be any different?
  
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- Bball40dtw on Nov 25, 2014
  
  Hobbyist piece of garbage with a 3.5EB crate engine. :) If Ford really wants to go racing with the Ecoboost V6, throw it in the Mustang and turn the boost up to just under "explode".
  
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- FormerFF on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @bball40dtw Multimatic is hardly a hobbyist shop, they do extremely professional work.
  
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- Bball40dtw on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @FormerFF They do. They make excellent Mustang race cars (among other cool stuff). The Ford GT, which went through a few different facilities on it's way to being finished was excellent as well. I can say that I was lucky enough to drive one. I wish I had the means to own one.
  
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- Faygo on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 Q: what was the last car Multimatic built for someone else ? A: the Aston Martin One-77. definitely a garage built POS which none of us would want anything to do with.
  
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- Lie2me on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @faygo Thank you
  
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- Tresmonos on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 You do realize the GT went through GPDS and was a proper program, right? Oh wait, you didn't know. Open your mouth and insert foot.
  
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- Tresmonos on Nov 25, 2014
  
  faygo: 1 tresmonos: 0 still won't stop me from being an *sshole.
  
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- Doctorv8 on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @tresmonos "You do realize the GT went through GPDS and was a proper program, right? Oh wait, you didn’t know. Open your mouth and insert foot." Of course I did. I wouldn't purchase some hobbyist POS.
  
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- Lie2me on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 "Speak for yourself, dude. My 2005 FGT-TT needs a younger brother." Sounds like you're about to, just sayin'
  
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- Tresmonos on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 Hahaha, touché. Seriously though, you own a GT?
  
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- Doctorv8 on Nov 25, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 Yes, it's been reviewed on this site by Sajeev.
  
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- Tresmonos on Nov 26, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 Damn I like the taste of crow. I was railing on this program as it won't go through the same production channels as a GPDS program. No Ford capital to me means this isn't a real Ford. I could be wrong.
  
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- Doctorv8 on Nov 26, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 "No Ford capital" I hardly think that is the case. Certainly, that was not intimated in Derek's article.
  
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- Tresmonos on Nov 26, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 If it isn't a GPDS program, it's likely not following standardized development / launch / manufacturing processes. That means it isn't utilizing significant Ford resources. It's a niche job shop product. If I were a betting man, the majority of the engineering is probably contracted out to Roush. I'm also betting they will build it. If they don't, this is someone else's work with a licensing. I hope I'm wrong and that some PD group has strung together some resources to make this a Ford developed product. Your GT is special. No one will every have a 'factory built,' PPAP'd, low volume, halo super car like the GT ever again. Edit: If Roush builds it, I hope they don't build it like they do pre-production cars (when Ford is too cheap to use their Pilot Plant) because they f*cking suck at it.
  
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- Faygo on Nov 26, 2014
  
  @tresmonos : stick with your day job, whatever it is these days. betting on this subject based on zero knowledge will not get you anywhere other than poorer. you might look a bit closer into why Roush gets used to build prototypes. it isn't because they're cheaper than NMPDC.
  
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- Tresmonos on Nov 26, 2014
  
  @faygo My current day job tells me that Roush sucks. But you Fordies wouldn't care so long as the issue at hand can be blamed on the supplier. Want to kit parts to the line? Roush takes a Ropak container, turns it upside down then 'kits' your parts in containers to the floor. Don't even get me started on adherence to process sheets. NMPDC likes to double down on the OT. Parts get lost until OT is announced (on Wednesday) then the plant swings into action. Until you stop being so vague and mysterious (gag), it seems I still know more than you even w/o the current job title.
  
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- Tresmonos on Nov 26, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 also, I would bet Derek's post holds more truth than my ramblings. But mission accomplished: drew the ire or Ford trolls basking in their internal product knowledge. I can guarantee this pile of sh1t has nothing to do with production channels and more to do with divisions of Ford that deal more with Gymkhana.
  
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- Faygo on Nov 26, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 given that I intend to keep my job, I'll not say more about why I know what I know and how specifically wrong you are on this subject.
  
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- Tresmonos on Nov 26, 2014
  
  @doctorv8 So Multimatic will build it and some spare budget at Ford Racing or SVT will develop it. Question being: what facet of PD had a hand in it? It's going to be Ford's Lamborghini brought to you by the same people responsible for Gymkhana. I'm hoping it has less marketing flair and more involvement from SVT. Call me old fashioned, but I like Ford VO and consider anything outside of that realm to be 'not Ford.' Marketing and Racing is a whole other world that I never was subjected to. If you can't take my BS rants with a grain of salt, my apologies. Happy Thanksgiving, stranger.
  
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Tjh8402 on Nov 25, 2014

first, nice job finding maybe the only angle that could make a DP look good :-P. I'm disappointed in the engine choice though. As soon as the GT350 specs were announced, I thought it would have been a brilliant engine for the Ford GT. Sorry to hear it won't be finding a spot in that cars successor either.

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