New York 2012: 2013 SRT Viper; Real Pictures

Derek Kreindler
by Derek Kreindler

8.4 liters. 10 cylinders. 640 horsepower. 600 lb-ft of torque. 3297 pounds. It’s still a Viper.

Here’s the long awaited 2013 SRT Viper. There is only one choice, a 6 speed manual transmission. Weight is down while power is up. Stability control and an 8.4 inch touch screen are concessions to comfort, but there will be a track version that loses another 57 pounds. Sounds like the right concept. Execution will be an entirely different matter.




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  • Daviel Daviel on Apr 04, 2012

    Hood's too long

  • FJ60LandCruiser FJ60LandCruiser on Apr 04, 2012

    The Viper has always been a vulgar pig of a car, the thought that throwing horsepower at a problem somehow fixes it. And while you can throw a few aero kits on it and make it fast around a track and handle well, the street version of this thing will just kill you. And let's not forget what happens when some idiot puts this engine in a pickup truck.

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    • Alexdi Alexdi on Apr 04, 2012

      This is not accurate. Most of the folks who've tried the current-gen Viper have praised it for benign handling. It's no more or less likely to kill you than any other ludicrously-powered coupe.

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  • David Murilee Martin, These Toyota Vans were absolute garbage. As the labor even basic service cost 400% as much as servicing a VW Vanagon or American minivan. A skilled Toyota tech would take about 2.5 hours just to change the air cleaner. Also they also broke often, as they overheated and warped the engine and boiled the automatic transmission...
  • Marcr My wife and I mostly work from home (or use public transit), the kid is grown, and we no longer do road trips of more than 150 miles or so. Our one car mostly gets used for local errands and the occasional airport pickup. The first non-Tesla, non-Mini, non-Fiat, non-Kia/Hyundai, non-GM (I do have my biases) small fun-to-drive hatchback EV with 200+ mile range, instrument display behind the wheel where it belongs and actual knobs for oft-used functions for under $35K will get our money. What we really want is a proper 21st century equivalent of the original Honda Civic. The Volvo EX30 is close and may end up being the compromise choice.
  • Mebgardner I test drove a 2023 2.5 Rav4 last year. I passed on it because it was a very noisy interior, and handled poorly on uneven pavement (filled potholes), which Tucson has many. Very little acoustic padding mean you talk loudly above 55 mph. The forums were also talking about how the roof leaks from not properly sealed roof rack holes, and door windows leaking into the lower door interior. I did not stick around to find out if all that was true. No talk about engine troubles though, this is new info to me.
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