G-Body Project Car Hell Part 2: Grand National Time

Derek Kreindler
by Derek Kreindler
body project car hell part 2 grand national time

After Joey and I sat down and tallied up all of the costs of our proposed Monte Carlo G-Body project; crate motor, upgraded cooling system, differential, engine accessories, transmission not to mention bodywork, interior refurbishing, brakes, suspension and all the other fun expensive stuff, we decided to abandon the project. Instead, Joey’s getting a Grand National.

Murilee himself advised that a GN might be the most cost-effective way to big power. The project in mind is to have a cool street car that looks and sounds good while still going fast. Most Monte Carlos are oxidized junk around these parts. Grand Nationals, on the other hand, are well cared for, and the $10,000 asking price for even a somewhat tired one is much more appealing than paying a couple thousand for a regular G-Body and then having to perform tons of work to bring it up to decent condition. A GN, while more expensive at the outset, is much more cost-effective in the long run, since we’re starting with a well-cared-for and capable car from the outset.

Anyone with turbo Buick experience is welcome to chime in with comments, suggestions, things to avoid and look out for. Ideally, I’d like to know what would be a good compromise between power and everyday driveability. The GN should be able to cruise on weekends for a few hours, but stock power levels won’t be adequate. At the same time, going with something severe like standalone engine management is too extreme. Any turbo upgrades would ideally improve throttle response and do away with the old school turbochargers. Coming from an import background, my knowledge of Turbo Buicks is weak. A rough goal would to eclipse the power of a stock GNX. Any good upgrades to the brakes, suspension, cooling system and any other important areas are also welcome. Joey and I will be going to look at Grand Nationals (hopefully by the time you’re reading this) and we’ll keep the B&B updated on the project. In the mean time, your collective wisdom and guidance is called upon!

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  • Flipper35 Flipper35 on Mar 26, 2012

    I would grab a well cared for '87 T-Type. Sleeper looks and you can get the additional performance out of them the same as a GN. Head gaskets would be something to watch out for on these.

  • GS650G GS650G on May 10, 2012

    Get a fox mustang and go with a 351 and be done with it.

  • Sgeffe There’s a guy on YouTube who owns several Oldsmobile Diesel-equipped vehicles, including an A-Body with the 4.3 V6. Might be the Chevy.IIRC, Adam Wade on the “Rare Classic Cars” channel stated that this engine was also available in 1985 only in the redesigned C-Bodies (98 Regency, Electra, DeVille/Fleetwood).
  • Tassos It's a GREAT value, but what, if any, profit will GM make from this vehicle? When it prices it at only $30k, while the much smaller and much CRAPPIER FIAT 500E goes for OVER $40k????
  • Tassos The consumers (not the "market") DO trust EVs, but those that are superior and well-priced,THey buy millions of TESLAS and very few copies of all the other dozens and dozens of LEGACY BEVs.Makes sense to me. None of these experienced makers have YET succeeded to design and build a better Tesla, that is ALSO PRICED COMPETITIVELY.
  • Tassos NOBODY really HAS to buy a new or even used car in this insane 2022 market, and those who do are damned fools.THIS IS the way to discourage dealer markup. FIX your damn car and DO NOT GO BEGGING THEM TO GIVE YOU A NEW ONE, in this BIGGEST SELLER's MARKET EVER.DO NOT BE AN ECON ILLITERATE. WAIT A YEAR OR TWO, THEN BUY.
  • Tassos What a genius! Buttigieg realized that Autonomous cars are not ready? What powers of preception and prescience.I expect in your next article to see that he made another profound discovery, that the earth is round.
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