By on March 5, 2010

According to popular wisdom, the Koreans have no love lost for the Japanese. And likewise. What’s more, Koreans and Japanese car makers are bitter competitors for foreign market share. So wouldn’t it stand to reason that Korea would jump on the “down with Toyota” bandwagon with their 96 million feet? Just the opposite is true.

The Chosun Iibo, according to Wikipedia “one of the major newspapers in South Korea,” takes the position that Toyota could very well be “a scapegoat for U.S.-Japan squabbling.”

Back home, whenever someone utters the heretic words “cui bono?” (Latin for “a benefit to whom?” and one of the first questions a detective or investigative journalist learns to ask) it elicits gasps. The mere idea that Washington, now owner of two car companies, and deeply indebted to the union vote, could have more in mind than the well-being of John Q. Public, usually triggers a “can’t be, don’t even think about it. Come on – are you on drugs?”

Curiously, the Koreans, who you’d think wish that Japan would go to hell, have more sympathy for the Nipponese devil. Under the headline “Is Toyota a scapegoat for U.S.-Japan squabbling?“ the Chosun Iibo raises some uncomforting points, even more uncomforting given the fact that they are coming from a bitter rival of Japan.

Toyota’s crisis is not solely due to quality and safety problems. American cars have also had problems with defective parts. Ford Motor had to recall more than 14 million vehicles between 1999 and 2009 to fix faulty cruise control switches, but it did not have to face a grilling in Congress. The Congressional probe of Toyota is unprecedented.

Some critics say that Toyota has been unfairly targeted in the U.S. They claim that Washington is picking on Toyota in order to assuage America’s damaged pride following the decline of Detroit’s “Big Three” automakers, and as a way to deal with the U.S. trade deficit with Japan. U.S. sentiment toward Toyota worsened after the automaker decided in August of last year to shut down the joint venture plant in California, threatening 30,000 jobs. GM, which had entered bankruptcy protection, had pulled out of the plant before Toyota, but it was the Japanese company that caught the blame.

Also playing a part is the change in the U.S.-Japan alliance since the launch of the Yukio Hatoyama administration. Just after his inauguration, the Japanese prime minister irritated Washington by overturning an agreement on the relocation of a U.S. military base in Okinawa and calling for an “equal” relationship with the U.S. It seems the U.S. has seized a chance to strike back. Now Toyota is paying for the Hatoyama administration’s policy of prioritizing its pride above national interests.

They forgot to mention that in the U.S.A, the big health reform is going down the tubes (again,) that things aren’t going so well in Iraq and Afghanistan, that unemployment is at record highs, and that Barak Obama could turn into a lame duck come November. A diversion is sorely needed. Personally, I don’t believe in big conspiracies. You don’t just make things up. Politics is the art of spinmeistery: A 911 call. A car in the pond. You grab it, you put it on the political spindle and turn up the revs. There is so much spin on Toyota, it makes you dizzy.

Whenever Paul comes up from his deep data dives, I shake my head. 32 unconfirmed complaints per 100,000 units sold, that’s supposed to be news? 9.5 percent of the adult population suffers from clinical depression. Any hearings? 30 percent of the people die from a heart attack. Any hearings? Staying at home is more hazardous to your life than driving an automobile. Any hearings? Having a baby is murder: 100 percent die. There have been 736 reported UFO sightings in Canada in 2007. The British Ministry of Defense counted 650 UFO sightings in 2009. Swamped with work, they closed down their UFO desk, known as Air Secretariat 2A1, in December. There will be zero confirmed UFO sightings in the UK in 2010.

If the Koreans, Japan’s fiercest competitors, think that something may be rotten in the District of Columbia, then it probably is.

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40 Comments on “Korea: Washington Is Picking On Toyota...”

  • avatar

    What if it’s simply a face-saving method of cutting off the cash hemorrhage now that the U.S. doesn’t have the money to buy 10 million imported vehicles every year?

  • avatar
    Mr Carpenter

    Patrick, that’s not as likely as first might be thought since a very large proportion of Toyotas, including virtually all of their top selling Camry, are actually manufactured in the United States itself.

    Until the collapse of the U.S. economy precipitating the near collapse of the world economy in 2008, Toyota had such a production shortage of Camrys that Toyota chose to use part of excess capacity in the Subaru factory (Lafayette, Indiana) to start additional Camry production.

    GM had purchased part of Subaru some while prior, had to sell it, and Toyota ended up buying it. (Previously, Subaru had shared the plant with another ex-GM partner, Isuzu, but Isuzu hit tough sledding and sold their portion of the plant to Subaru).

    Yes, it’s pretty common sensical that this whole thing is political – if only because the people foisting it upon us are professional politicians (one step down from the first occupation, in my humble estimation).

    So as I’ve said all along – this is a witch hunt against Toyota by the Obama administration and his cronies.

    Frankly, this isn’t what used to be the American way (except in politics, of course). Fair play should be.

    As for not being able to afford imports, that may well happen and if it does, this country may end up an admixture of what Cuba and Venezuela became, in giant form. Or possibly at best, “Argentina north”. (If you don’t think badly of that, then go look at what happened to the Argentine economy, currency and savings and retirements of ordinary people there over the past 25 years).

    • 0 avatar

      You need to offer some facts to support your conspiracy theories – beyond the “Government Motors” garbage from talk radio. Or get lost.

      The mere fact that the federal government bailed out GM and Chrysler is NOT enough to prove that they are conspiring against Toyota, or doing something unfair.

      The timeline and the facts contradict your claims. Toyota has had a whole slew of well-documented product issues and recalls over the last few years, and they have now reached critical mass (in the media, in the government investigations, and in the courts). The federal government looks like it is reacting – and covering its butt for not acting sooner, or more aggressively – rather than conspiring.

      And the Toyota recalls/product problems involve other countries as well as the U.S. Are you going to tell me that’s all the result of a conspiracy too?

      Get out of here. Seriously.

      And don’t post links to Internet sites by other conspiracy theorists – that doesn’t prove your case.

  • avatar

    Considering your background and experience,Bertel,your opinion and thoughts,certainly add credence to the conspirecy theory.

    What do I think? [who gives a f– eh] In the plant,we used to call it “snowballing” you make a little snowball and push it down a big hill,at the bottom of the hill you got one hell of a snowball.

    Toyota made thier own snowball with U.A. With thier denials,dumb public statements, and stalling, and then the floor mat thing. Toyota made a huge mistake. Toyota, and only Toyota give the snowball a shove.

    The big honking snowball rolling down the hill was a gift. Every carmaker, including the Koreans can only benifit,from Toyotas mistake.

    As GM Canada hourly retiree,I’m very much aware that the US government owns a huge chunk of GM followed by the Canadians,the Ontario government and the UAW.

    Now all of the above, might of seen the Toyota made snowball zooming down the hill. Maybe they should have tried to stop it?

    Or maybe just get to f— out of the way,and let her roll.

  • avatar

    Korea should shut their mouths an be happy they are putting out their new Sonata just in time to capitalize on Toyota’s failures.

    [Nice picture ED. what is the White man’s infatuation with monkeys anyway?]

    • 0 avatar
      crash sled

      If you check historical propaganda, all nations and races seem to use the brutal-animal-attacking-fair-maiden-schtick.

      I agree that some politicians are taking a whack at Toyota for reasons other than public safety: to help trial lawyers, the UAW or whatever. And they were quite open about using an alleged safety hearing to yelp about the NUMMI closing, and about why the poor Indiana-produced CTS pedal was being singled out, and not the Denso pedal produced by the brutish animals in the propoganda poster.

      Problem is, this hysteria will impact everybody, and cost them all. The trial lawyers just wanna get paid, and will use this hysteria to do so. They’ll kill anybody, Detroit 3, UAW, brutish animals, Toyota… they don’t care, as long as they get paid.

      So the alleged beneficiaries of this conspiracy, the Detroit 3, will have to spend cash to resolve issues which mirror those of Toyota (brake override, ECM development, more system redundancy, etc.).

      And if Toyota drops prices with incentives, the Detroit 3 will have to match them, cutting into their needed cash flow.

      Conspiracies always backfire, except from the trial lawyers’ perspective, as they get paid regardless.

    • 0 avatar


      You idiot, no body should win in false circumstances or circumstances that’s like the Toyota is right now. Because Hyundai or any other manufacturing could be next if congress decides it needs to through hissy fits. Truth matters. You should shut your mouth… better yet… you should turn off your computer.

      Truth matters… This is “The Truth About Cars” website.

    • 0 avatar

      Hmmmm…..I don’t seem to remember “you idiot” as an accepted opening remark to a debate rebuttal. Way to make full use of the rules suspension. Reminds me of SNL’s Point-CounterPoint…..”Jane, you ignorant slut…”

    • 0 avatar


      The Flashpoint just told the country of Korea to shut up. The “You idiot” was used for specific purpose to character the writer as an idiot. Why would a person advocate the whole country ignore the truth for money? To be a sellout? Is this what we strive on this site?

      He is asking the country to live in lie and ignore the wrongs. He didn’t write that on The very idea is very repulsive. You are worried about the word “idiot?” Dear word police, what word should be used to characterize someone who advocates such principle?

      The “idiot” is a mild compared to what could have been used. Thinking like that is exactly why we have problems in this world, including the problems that Toyota is having.

  • avatar
    Rod Panhard

    The Toyota Witchhunt is a symptom of America’s disease … a lack of personal responsibility. It’s always somebody else’s fault. Anyone want to guess how many times the words “obesity” or “obese” appeared in the first 1200 page draft of the health care plan, even though the National Institute of Health said it costs $800 billion per year?

    The answer? ZERO.

    • 0 avatar

      Um, Rod … with all due respect, what are you talking about?

      Are you really making the claim that Toyota’s woes are really caused by Americans being fat and lazy? And lacking personal responsibility? And blaming other people for their problems? Or that this is somehow related to the healthcare bills before Congress?

      Say WHAT?

      Seriously, let’s unwind this. Are you claiming that if Toyota makes defective cars, gets caught, and faces government investigations, this is somehow a failure of America collectively? Are Congressional investigations of this sort of thing illegitimate – particularly when they focus in part on the government’s own failures to connect the dots or potect the public? Should owners of Toyota cars be taking “personal responsibility” for all of this?

      I tend to think this is actually all about accountability. Namely, Toyota is facing an accountability amount both at the corporate level, and at the personal level (in the case of the executives who played hardball with the NHTSA and the public for years).

    • 0 avatar
      Rod Panhard

      Bokonon, what I’m saying is this. 100 incidences of “unintended acceleration” out of 8 million units is well below statistical radar. Give me 8 million anvils and I bet you I can find 100 incidences of unintended acceleration.

      Toyota has succeeded in building the perfect car for people who are ambivalent about cars. Their cars are perfect for people who can’t be bothered with driving.

      Why is it, Bokon, that incidents of UA aren’t reported in other countries where Toyotas are sold? Why is it, Bokon, that other automobile manufacturers who use the suppliers who make similar parts don’t have UA?

      We live in a country right now where a lot of people don’t take responsibility for their actions, and where we have enough people deny when they are responsible for their own actions.

      No, I don’t believe in conspiracies. I do believe that sometimes, a confluence of unrelated events can occur that make things happen, that make things appear to be conspiracies.

      But conspiracies don’t exist because people aren’t that smart.

      In this case, we’ve got a few government agencies that have to act like they’re doing something. We’ve got a few groups who have it in their best interest for the top dog to fail, especially when their competitors are too big to fail. We’ve got a media with a mindset that is in full-tilt S.O.S. mode.

      The media is DEFINITELY not doing its job. When The Woz said, “Me too!” somebody should have said, “Prove it.”

      Add in a few dozen drivers who get distracted by phone calls, aren’t focusing on driving, and whatever else, and voila, a big mess blows up. And this time, it’s Toyota’s turn in the barrel.

      And drivers, who should take responsible for knowing how to operate a car, are at fault.
      – Put it in Neutral.
      – Apply brakes.
      – Signal with flashers or turn signal or horn.

      Dude, it takes a Camry more than four seconds to accelerate from 40 to 65 mph. If you can’t figure out something is wrong with your car in four seconds, you shouldn’t be driving.

  • avatar

    Yes, wartime propaganda–regardless of source–is not known for being a paradigm of even-handedness. The Third Reich’s posters were especially vile. Indeed, I think it is illegal now in Germany to publish Nazi propaganda except for certain restricted purposes such as historical research. Don’t know about the Japanese, but suspect they’ve put most of WW II down the memory hole.

    I agree with Mikey. GM, the government(s) et al, are just observing the counsel, “when the opposition is digging itself into a hole, don’t pull them out”.

  • avatar

    Whenever Paul comes up from his deep data dives, I shake my head. 32 unconfirmed complaints per 100,000 units sold, that’s supposed to be news? 9.5 percent of the adult population suffers from clinical depression. Any hearings? 30 percent of the people die from a heart attack. Any hearings? Staying at home is more hazardous to your life than driving an automobile. Any hearings?

    Very good point. You can use this trick to poke a hole in The War On Terror and The War On Drugs as well. The sugars and fats that are added to just about every damn foodstuff on the shelf kills more Americans than 9/11, Crack Cocaine or (by a longshot) the Toyota Camry.

    The problem is that people fear what they cannot control or understand far more than that which they do feel they can control or understand. This is why the media goes insane about H1N1 but not about diabetes or influenza; it’s also why there’s no Congressional hearings about drunk driving, even though those people murder more in a month than Toyota’s trouble has in a decade.

    • 0 avatar

      Psar.. We as Canadians. are in no position to point fingers at our American friends. The war on terror, the war on drugs, etc. Somebody has to fight those wars. Yeah, thier stores are stocked with garbage,so are ours.

      We tax the crap out of cigarettes here,to pay for our health care plan,burdened down with two pack a day smokers.and thier ailments.

    • 0 avatar

      @ PartsUknown.. C.R.confessed to giving Camry and Corolla a free pass,maybe a year or so back. Reported right here at TTAC.

      Am a GM homer? Damn right,and proud of it. Does Toyota build crap? No,ugly and bland maybe but they build a half decent car.

      What Toyota does not do,is build a perfect car. A car that never breaksdown, never wears out or is ever recalled. Toyota does not have perfect dealers,that kneel at your feet when you walk through the doors. Toyota does not hire PHD’s to work on the line. Assemblers sneak beer into the plant and smoke joints in the parking lot,just like the GMers do.

      Toyota treats thier employees fairly well,with good wages and good benifits. Toyota is only too aware, that good wages and benifits is the only thing keeping thier employees,from forming a picket line,while singing “solidarity forever” at the front gate.

    • 0 avatar

      C.R.confessed to giving Camry and Corolla a free pass,maybe a year or so back. Reported right here at TTAC.

      To be fair, what CR actually does is give new models of cars that have seen previous solid launches an exemption from their standard policy of not recommending new or heavily redesigned models. When the last Camry and 4Runner launched with teething problems, CR rescinded that pass.

      They’ve done so in the past (with the Honda Odyssey). They’ve also added models to it that have been reliable (the Fusion, Impala and Regal).

      It wasn’t a policy that they kept secret and had to confess to.

    • 0 avatar
      crash sled

      “Toyota does not hire PHD’s to work on the line. Assemblers sneak beer into the plant and smoke joints in the parking lot,just like the GMers do.”


      mikey, I highly doubt Toyota has ever tolerated the level of employee intoxication and absenteeism that I watched GM/UAW tolerate over the decades. And think how much this foolishness cost GM over the years, in lost productivity. If GM/UAW had allowed for employees to be sent to the clinic for testing, immediately, and disciplined for the absenteeism, these problems coulda been solved.

      Instead, both GM and the UAW fiddled. Here was a valid way to have input to their common struggles, and they did nothing. Good people are losing their jobs as a result of their inevitable downfall, but they were only interested in protecting the least common denominator… the sluggards and ne’er do wells.

      You really think Toyota employees aren’t drug tested regularly and randomly? I bet they are. And I bet they show up for work regularly, too.

    • 0 avatar

      Toyota does not hire PHD’s to work on the line. Assemblers sneak beer into the plant and smoke joints in the parking lot,just like the GMers do.

      Most PhD. holders that I know are not at all impartial to the bottle or the doobie. In fact, depending on the discipline, I’d say they’re more likely than their blue-collar equivalents to partake.

      Now, that said, having a beer or a doobie in the parking lot is not going to affect the quality of the end product, at least not in today’s manufacturing shops. What will do that is bad design and quality control, which is usually a function of the kind of people who partake of much higher-class substances.

    • 0 avatar

      @CrashSled.. With all due respect sir,have you ever worked in the blue collar world? I don’t know how it works in the US,but in my country,unless your a truck driver,or a cop,an airline pilot,or performing brain surgery,you don’t have mandatory drug testing.

      Trust me on this. If a I walked into a Toyota plant,at this moment,the start of a Friday night shift,50% of the crew would test positive for drugs and or booze.

    • 0 avatar
      crash sled

      mikey, as a matter of fact, I have worked in the blue collar world, first as a blue collar employee, then later as engineering staff and manager. In many industries, drug testing, random and unannounced, is mandatory, for everybody, managers, engineers and blue collar. They walk up to you, tap you on the shoulder, and you have “x” hours to get to the clinic and take a whizz quiz. If you don’t, it’s your ass, or your job.

      If the Detroit 3 and UAW had gone to such a system 30 years ago, I bet a large portion of their current troubles would have been avoided, because it affected quality, absenteeism, safety, productivity and so much more. You can’t have good people suffering because of the few bad.

      I highly doubt “50%” of Toyota’s employees show up intoxicated to work. I don’t know whether they have as strident a drug testing program as I described above, but I’m certain that it’s more strident than the one I experienced historically at GM, where on the job intoxication was rampant.

  • avatar

    Not only is Washington unfairly targeting Toyota (and ignoring others…who have a much more lengthy history of UA complaints), so is the US media.

    They are the sole cause of Toyota’s sales drop…they blew the issue way out of proportion and Toyota is suffering dearly…while others are getting a free pass for producing cars who’s braking system fails…and then only issues a fix to the customers when Consumer Reports calls them on it…

    • 0 avatar

      “free pases” …What?.. Like CR and the rest of the media give Toyota for years.

    • 0 avatar

      mikey – how exactly has CR and the media given Toyota a free pass for years? It amuses me when people come out of the woodwork, particularly GM homers like yourself, and suddenly declare that, “Yup, told ya so, Toyota’s been making crap for years!”

      By virtually every objective measure, Toyota, regardless of the recent recalls, has been producing cars with industry-leading quality, reliability and durability for the last twenty years. They have attained their current (possibly tenuous) status as top dog on the planet for a reason. No smoke and mirrors, no media conspiracies – jes’ facts. There’s something to the fact that the Camry is a perennial bestseller, that the Corolla is a best seller wordwide, etc. Are millions upon millions of people wrong, and you’re right?

      For the record, I have no skin in this game as the last Toyota I owned was an ’83 Land Cruiser 18 years ago. Their products generally bore me; there’s a Saab and a Ford in my garage right now.

    • 0 avatar
      Christy Garwood

      @ PartsUnknown – JD Power initial quality surveys show that the quality gap between GM and its competitors such as Honda and Toyota is closing in on zero.

      CR develops its ratings from subscribers and it has been demonstrated that Toyota and Honda owners report fewer problems even though the actual repair rate is close to other auto manufacturers’ repair rates. It isn’t exactly an objective measure. This same phenomenon or halo affect also occurs with Saab owners.

      The press, blogs, and CR typically fail to report the fact that some quality measures are more subjective than objective. In this sense, no vehicle manufacturer is treated fairly. Karesh’s site, is getting closer to the real story of which vehicles have the lowest repair rates.

      For the record, I work for GM designing and building the world’s best vehicles.

    • 0 avatar

      And a fine job your doing, Christy

    • 0 avatar

      Christy –
      I understand your point. All the various “surveys” can be sliced and diced numerous ways, and you can take from them what you will. I will never stand here and say that JD Power and/or CR were sent straight from the Big Guy to tell us what we should buy.

      But it cuts both ways: you can’t tout JD and disparage CR to suit your story. In any event, initial quality is just groovy. But, people want a GM car that will make it to 100K without grenading the engine. The fact that GM can now make a car that looks good in the showroom shouldn’t be groundbreaking news.

      The most damning evidence, however, is the consumer’s wallet. At least until the current recall debacle broke, Toyota’s bread and butter models have continued to hammer the competition. That’s not an accident.

      And here I fixed this for you:

      “For the record, I work for GM trying really, really hard to design and build the world’s best vehicles someday. At least, the ones that aren’t Daewoos and Opels.”

      There, much better.

    • 0 avatar

      @PartsUknown The engines grenade at 100k? My friend just retired and sold his commuter car, a 170 klm 2006 Impala, to a cab company. That converts to over 100k miles. It easily passed a safety check an emision test and compression check.

      The cabby,an owner operator was more than happy with his purchase. Stating “I’ll get another 150 out of this baby”

      Do a little research,before you shoot off.

    • 0 avatar

      mikey –
      First of all, relax. We’re not talking about world hunger here.

      Second, you know one guy who got over 100K on an Impala? This is the extent of the “research” you’ve done? Good lord.

      Look, everyone can find someone who nursed car ABC to 150K miles. There’s probably a Yugo out there with 75K on it somewhere for crying out loud. I know so many people (my parents included, longtime GM owners until the mid-80’s) who’ve sworn off GM after crap cars I’ve lost count. Still, that’s only my experience.

      I’ll repeat: GM’s tanking market share, losing ground to Toyota, Honda, Ford, etc. – that means something. The bankruptcy? That means something. It means GM has been building crap cars for a long time and they are still trying to dig out of their hole.

      I actually find a number of GM cars appealing, such as the Malibu, CTS, Acadia among others. But I’ll never consider one until GM demonstrates long-term quality. You need to take off the GM blue-colored glasses.

      Do you deny that GM ever made bad cars?

    • 0 avatar
      crash sled

      “CR develops its ratings from subscribers and it has been demonstrated that Toyota and Honda owners report fewer problems even though the actual repair rate is close to other auto manufacturers’ repair rates.”


      Gotta call you on this one, Christy. Do you have any data to support your statement that Toyota/Honda repair rates are close to other OEMs’?

      I can believe that the Detroit 3 are approaching reasonable first quality rates… FINALLY… but remember this is just first quality. It’s an important marker of quality, but it’s still just the first one. Longer term, those vehicles still have to be robust, and as of now, they do not match up with Toyota, Honda and some others. That’s why we need to see your data re repair rates.

      Resale is a good data point, and it also indicates that the Detroit 3 are still well behind on the longer term measures. If the product is good, the customer will figure that out and pay for it… today and tomorrow. Those resale values speak volumes.

  • avatar
    Dr Strangelove

    What does the “Q.” in “John Q. Public” stand for?

    • 0 avatar

      Wikipedia says “The term “John Q. Public” was the name of a character created by Vaughn Shoemaker, an editorial cartoonist for the Chicago Daily News, in 1922.” But it doesn’t explain what “Q” stands for. My guess is nothing. (There’s precedent for that: Harry S Truman had only the initial for a middle name.)

  • avatar

    The Chosun Ilbo is a fairly conservative paper, so in one sense this isn’t all that more unusual than the Wall Street Journal making similar comments about the rush to judgment.

  • avatar
    John Horner

    ” … Barak Obama could turn into a lame duck come November. ”

    There isn’t another Presidential election in the US until 2012. A lame duck refers to a President during the period between the loss of a November election and the inauguration of the new President in January. Obama does not face that possibility this coming November. But hey, don’t let the facts get in the way …..

    Also, does one conservative newspaper in Korea speak for the whole country? “Korea” isn’t weighing in on Toyota’s side. One Korean is doing so and is supported by one newspaper’s editor. Who speaks for all of the US? The Wall Street Journal? The New York Times? The Truth About Cars?

    • 0 avatar

      It is true that “lame duck” usually refers to the time period between a presidential election and inauguration. However, President Obama’s current inability to pass any of his party’s programs and his general ineptitude will be magnified after the expected increase of Republican senators and representatives this coming November. In this sense I believe he will indeed be a lame duck.

  • avatar
    buzz phillips

    Toyota just needs to make proper fixes, and then continue to build the quality cars they have in the past! Discussion over.

  • avatar

    In Asia they always complain about American Protectionism, forgetting all the measures they enacted to protect their own industries. It is true Koreans have no love for the Japanese, but they have a common interest in keeping the NA market open to their products. The so called “witch hunt” by the Congress and the American media towards Toyota is only an excuse to cement the feeling of unfair trade policies and the bullying the Americans practice against their partners. Bertel Schmitt, for someone who doesn’t believe in conspiracy theories you seem to mention them a lot.

    P.S. Barack not “Barak”, after all the times that you mentioned him at least get his name right.

  • avatar

    The mere idea that Washington, now owner of two car companies, and deeply indebted to the union vote, could have more in mind than the well-being of John Q. Public, usually triggers a “can’t be, don’t even think about it. Come on – are you on drugs?”

    Really? I don’t think the vast majority of Americans trust the government enough to think “Absolutely, Toyota is bad because the gubmint says so”. If they did trust their government that much they would be more strongly in support of state-run health care.

  • avatar

    Maybe it is more a case of hitting two flies at once as Koreans aren’t exactly known for their love of America

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