The Real Deal: Less Than Zero

John Clay Wolfe
by John Clay Wolfe

The car business literally ceased the day World Trade Center I and II fell back to the Earth. And so the savvy suits at GM created a landmark campaign “Keep America Rolling.” Generous Motors offered 0% interest for 60 months on EVERYTHING they made. Customers had to forfeit their rebates in exchange for 0% interest loans, but my god did it work. The sales rates were staggering. I personally witnessed customers at a Texas Chevy house literally fighting to be next in line to sign papers. The rumor had gotten out that 0% was going to end suddenly; the customers in this particular store believed they were in a race to sign docs before the last 0% credit was used up. That was 2001. Today eight years later, zero percent is BACK on.

The zero percent come-on comes and goes like a rising tide. Much like the manufacturer rebate system, the no-interest rate deal has become a tool to control/stimulate the marketplace. Personally, I’m surprised it still has any effect at all. But it does. GM offered a 48 for 0% for 48 hours sale two seasons ago that made the fish float to the top like two army telephones in a stock pond. That 48-hour sale morphed into 72 for 72 hours, and then flopped around for another week before the 0% spigot was closed AGAIN.

Zero percent financing is not that great of a deal when one does the math. The mathematical rebates vs 0% calculation finds its mathematical median in the mid-$30,000 purchase price, with rebates flirting with the $4-5,000 mark. Translation. If the unit (vehicle) has a $4000 rebate and the net price is under $30k, take the rebate, not the free money. If the reciprocal is over $35k, it usually makes fiscal sense to go for the interest-free loan.

The much discussed Cash for Clunkers come-on was the retarded brother of 0%. Same as it ever was. Your tax money stimulated major moves in the sales VU meter, with the usual painful hangover. While the manufacturers bitch and moan about the “end of government incentives,” the hangover from zero percent in ’01 and ’02 was just as bad. This one seems worse because things always seem worse when you’re living them.

Moral of the story: if you artifically stimulate something—whether you do so with drugs, financing or plain old lies—there will always be a reckoning.

There is a difference, though. Consumer confidence is lower than a grasshopper’s knee, and there’s no sign that it will come back any time soon. Pain is slowly becoming panic for the brass hats and dealers. You won’t read about the panic in Automotive News or hear about it on the network news. But it’s there. I feel it, I smell it, I hear it in the factory conference calls, and running the grapevine with other dealers.

The industry is shaking, sweating, looking for a fix. This sounds crazy, but in a world where common sense seems not to apply, and we all just keep looking for that next sales high. And here it is: Reverse Interest.

You buy a new Caddy, Fiat, Ford, whatever, and the carmaker will pay you five percent a month interest to make payments on your new purchase. They could do it, just beef the rebates up a bit (which they’re already running that way again) then offer reverse interest if you give up the rebate.

Obviously, this idea wouldn’t fix a damn thing. But it might get the car business through the winter. Either that or . . . what? At some point, the music will stop and there won’t be enough chairs for everyone. And then . . . the music will start again.

[courtesy wolferadio11.com]

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  • Durask Durask on Oct 31, 2009

    0% makes a lot of sense in some cases. Let's say you plan to buy a 40K vehicle. You could pay cash, or you could get 0% x 3 years and invest the money. Of course you could end up losing 20K of those 40K that you invested, but it all depends on how you invest...

  • Accs Accs on Oct 31, 2009

    Can someone please answer one simple question. Does a good car for sale in the current m.y get you into the dealership.. or is it the deals / rebate? And can a car alone, sell you on its purchase, without the rebates?

  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Thankfully I don't have to deal with GDI issues in my Frontier. These cleaners should do well for me if I win.
  • Theflyersfan Serious answer time...Honda used to stand for excellence in auto engineering. Their first main claim to fame was the CVCC (we don't need a catalytic converter!) engine and it sent from there. Their suspensions, their VTEC engines, slick manual transmissions, even a stowing minivan seat, all theirs. But I think they've been coasting a bit lately. Yes, the Civic Type-R has a powerful small engine, but the Honda of old would have found a way to get more revs out of it and make it feel like an i-VTEC engine of old instead of any old turbo engine that can be found in a multitude of performance small cars. Their 1.5L turbo-4...well...have they ever figured out the oil dilution problems? Very un-Honda-like. Paint issues that still linger. Cheaper feeling interior trim. All things that fly in the face of what Honda once was. The only thing that they seem to have kept have been the sales staff that treat you with utter contempt for daring to walk into their inner sanctum and wanting a deal on something that isn't a bare-bones CR-V. So Honda, beat the rest of your Japanese and Korean rivals, and plug-in hybridize everything. If you want a relatively (in an engineering way) easy way to get ahead of the curve, raise the CAFE score, and have a major point to advertise, and be able to sell to those who can't plug in easily, sell them on something that will get, for example, 35% better mileage, plug in when you get a chance, and drives like a Honda. Bring back some of the engineering skills that Honda once stood for. And then start introducing a portfolio of EVs once people are more comfortable with the idea of plugging in. People seeing that they can easily use an EV for their daily errands with the gas engine never starting will eventually sell them on a future EV because that range anxiety will be lessened. The all EV leap is still a bridge too far, especially as recent sales numbers have shown. Baby steps. That's how you win people over.
  • Theflyersfan If this saves (or delays) an expensive carbon brushing off of the valves down the road, I'll take a case. I understand that can be a very expensive bit of scheduled maintenance.
  • Zipper69 A Mini should have 2 doors and 4 cylinders and tires the size of dinner plates.All else is puffery.
  • Theflyersfan Just in time for the weekend!!! Usual suspects A: All EVs are evil golf carts, spewing nothing but virtue signaling about saving the earth, all the while hacking the limbs off of small kids in Africa, money losing pits of despair that no buyer would ever need and anyone that buys one is a raging moron with no brains and the automakers who make them want to go bankrupt.(Source: all of the comments on every EV article here posted over the years)Usual suspects B: All EVs are powered by unicorns and lollypops with no pollution, drive like dreams, all drivers don't mind stopping for hours on end, eating trays of fast food at every rest stop waiting for charges, save the world by using no gas and batteries are friendly to everyone, bugs included. Everyone should torch their ICE cars now and buy a Tesla or Bolt post haste.(Source: all of the comments on every EV article here posted over the years)Or those in the middle: Maybe one of these days, when the charging infrastructure is better, or there are more options that don't cost as much, one will be considered as part of a rational decision based on driving needs, purchasing costs environmental impact, total cost of ownership, and ease of charging.(Source: many on this site who don't jump on TTAC the split second an EV article appears and lives to trash everyone who is a fan of EVs.)
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