Bailout Watch 237: Say Bye-Bye to Bailout?

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

The AP reports that “Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says the Democrats’ plan to tap the Wall Street rescue fund to save U.S. automakers doesn’t have the votes to pass. One day after Detroit’s Big Three sent survival plans to Capitol Hill in an urgent plea for $34 billion in government aid, Reid said there’s still not enough support in Congress for using some of the $700 billion bailout to help the teetering carmakers.” So it looks like the plan to tap Tarp has tapped-out. Plan B: modify the terms of the Department of Energy’s $25b retooling loans, as suggested by President Bush. Only Detroit is now asking for $34b, and the rest (bailouts for the automakers’ credit divisions). Plan C: new “emergency legislation” to top-up the Big 2.8 until Barack Obama administration can ride to the rescue (or not). Only CNNMoney says 61% of the voting public opposes that plan, and 70 percent it won’t do a damn bit of good for the U.S. economy (sorry Detroit). Plan D: pre-packaged bankruptcy, as suggested and outlined here on TTAC by Richard Tilton. And lo and behold, Bloomberg reports General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC executives are considering accepting a pre-arranged bankruptcy as the last-resort price of getting a multibillion-dollar government bailout.” Volte-face.

“Officials of the three automakers told members of Congress last month they had studied a pre-arranged bankruptcy, championed by Republican lawmakers such as Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, before dismissing the idea as unworkable.” Let’s hope not. Meanwhile, anti-bailout opponents in Congress are busy positioning themselves as pro-C11 pre-pack.

“I don’t see the upside to the obligating of more taxpayer money for a private industry,” Georgia Rep. Tom Price, incoming chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee, told FOXNews.com. “It’s painful, it’s not a fun process,” But some actually end up leaner, meaner, more profitable, more healthy in the back end of the process,” Texas Rep. Jeb Hensarling, sitting chairman of the Republican Study Committee, toldthe F&B folk. “I don’t buy into the fact that (bankruptcy is) simply not an option.”

“This is so serious to the country’s long-term ambitions as a major super power,” Democratic Rep. Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania said. with characteristic bombast. BUT he added, “We’re not obliged to write a blank check.”

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  • Pch101 Pch101 on Dec 04, 2008
    Acquire everything that moves? Saab Volvo FIAT Aston Martin Land Rover Jaguar Isuzu Mazda Daewoo Hughes EDS XM Good to see how well most of those worked out. You don’t think Honda would be thrilled to move 500K Accords? Sure, they would be, but they have competition that keeps them from getting there. Unlike Detroit, Honda acknowledges its competition and takes it into account. Since they can't generate sales at those volumes at a profit, they instead avoid using a business model that would guarantee losses when those unrealistic targets were missed. Detroit should take notes. Building large numbers of vehicles that can't be sold without steep discounting is a "strategy" that is guaranteed to lose money. Building vehicles that aren't good enough to get the volume makes the situation even worse. The Detroit Defenders refuse to accept basic truths: that they have contempt for their customers, inferior products, and unrealistic goals. Any business run this badly would lose money. We tried to warn them, but they didn't listen. It's not my fault that they ignored the obvious, but now it looks as if I'll be stuck with paying for it, anyway.
  • Geeber Geeber on Dec 04, 2008
    KnightR/T: I’m saying volume is a good thing. Volume for the sake of volume is NOT a good thing. GM still moves more metal than any other car maker in the American market. Yet it is facing bankruptcy. KnightR/T: You don’t think Honda would be thrilled to move 500K Accords? Not if Honda makes little or no money on each one sold. KnightR/T: That they wouldn’t give anything to have the Accord dominate the market segment? No, they wouldn't. If Honda wanted to, it could probably boost sales dramatically - even in this market - by either cutting the price drastically or offering hefty rebates. Honda hasn't taken this approach, because it realizes that blindly chasing volume for the sake of volume is really a form of suicide for a car company.
  • Marcr My wife and I mostly work from home (or use public transit), the kid is grown, and we no longer do road trips of more than 150 miles or so. Our one car mostly gets used for local errands and the occasional airport pickup. The first non-Tesla, non-Mini, non-Fiat, non-Kia/Hyundai, non-GM (I do have my biases) small fun-to-drive hatchback EV with 200+ mile range, instrument display behind the wheel where it belongs and actual knobs for oft-used functions for under $35K will get our money. What we really want is a proper 21st century equivalent of the original Honda Civic. The Volvo EX30 is close and may end up being the compromise choice.
  • Mebgardner I test drove a 2023 2.5 Rav4 last year. I passed on it because it was a very noisy interior, and handled poorly on uneven pavement (filled potholes), which Tucson has many. Very little acoustic padding mean you talk loudly above 55 mph. The forums were also talking about how the roof leaks from not properly sealed roof rack holes, and door windows leaking into the lower door interior. I did not stick around to find out if all that was true. No talk about engine troubles though, this is new info to me.
  • Dave Holzman '08 Civic (stick) that I bought used 1/31/12 with 35k on the clock. Now at 159k.It runs as nicely as it did when I bought it. I love the feel of the car. The most expensive replacement was the AC compressor, I think, but something to do with the AC that went at 80k and cost $1300 to replace. It's had more stuff replaced than I expected, but not enough to make me want to ditch a car that I truly enjoy driving.
  • ToolGuy Let's review: I am a poor unsuccessful loser. Any car company which introduced an EV which I could afford would earn my contempt. Of course I would buy it, but I wouldn't respect them. 😉
  • ToolGuy Correct answer is the one that isn't a Honda.
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