By on August 31, 2006

turbo222.jpg Our West Coast Bureau Chief is one persistent son of a bitch. Every day I get emails or phone calls from Jonny Lieberman asking me to pimp him a ride, preferably a Porsche Turbo or Audi RS4. Since we've cut a deal with The Aston Lawrence Group re: sourcing press cars for our troops, he's… still on my case. But I respect that. Cars are my drug too. If I wasn't so busy answering JL's emails and other equally vital administrative tasks, I'd be sending myself emails asking why I haven't found a ride for… me. Anyway, Jonny rang me up to discuss his MX-5 review, his forthcoming F150 King Ranch review and Frank's ad article. At least it kept him away from his computer for 10 minutes… 

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23 Comments on “Lieberman Needs Cars...”


  • avatar
    Sajeev Mehta

    Jonny, see if you can borrow about 30 bags of mulch from Home Depot for a coupla hours. I’ve driven the Mark LT and the Tundra, and well, I found a lot of difference between the two. Well, besides the amount of chrome and leather.

  • avatar

    Is there a reason why it ended so abruptly? Did I miss some interview-ending faux pas? Have TTAC given some arbitrary time limit to podcasts? JL was in mid-thought when it just stopped. I hate when that happens. =

    –chuck

  • avatar
    JSForbes

    Saab story… ha

  • avatar
    Jonny Lieberman

    Chuck,

    All i was saying is that the only reason for Saabs period is the ignition between the seats to keep the fob off your knee.

    Now that keyless ignition exists, KILL THE BRAND!

    Though, of course, GM is more than one step ahead of me.

  • avatar
    gearhead455

    Good podcast…

  • avatar
    qfrog

    YAY for podcasts!

    Saab’s death by way of GM seems the sort of predictable you expect in an episode of Inspector Gadget…. yet I have to wonder, was SAAB really meant to last as a company? Was it ever profitable? Was SAAB ever anthing more than a socialistic automotive experiment to utilize resources at hand? I don’t care if the company was a bomb to begin with… when I was a kid the SPG was cool. Sure I grew up in a SAAB family; thats kinda like being of the adams family, your norm is a ways from the norm. To hell with velour or cloth when you can have corduroy seats. I resent GM for stamping out a childhood icon and staple of my youthful existance.

    King Ranch… sounds like wishbone salad dressing to me…. mmm creamy and delicious lard topping for leafy green roughage. Burger King should have a King Ranch salad.

  • avatar
    orbitmonkey

    Wow, he preferably wants a Porsche Turbo or an RS4? Seems the RS4 continues to be traveling in very good company :)

  • avatar
    Lesley Wimbush

    Mozda?? And you guys laugh at us for Cel-eeeeeeeka???

    Jonny, taking the King Ranch through the drive-through is child’s play… try it with the Ram Mega Cab 2500 :)

  • avatar
    Terry Parkhurst

    There are two companies which field press fleets that I know of; and one handles Audi. However, Porsche has for the past few years jumped from one company to the other, and for a brief time, has a fellow who handled only Porsche, as their press fleet representative. To get a Porsche, you really need to call up the home office, somewhere in Atlanta, last I heard.
    Personally, I have driven a Porsche since the sumer of 1998, when I drove the then new Boxster to review for a now-defunct lifestyle magazine called Sterling (whose lofty goal was to compete with the Robb Report).
    Porsche is one of the hardest cars for a journo to get, for good reason really. They’re afraid the boy (or girl) racers amongst us are going to trash, or completely destroy, their press cars. Remember reading about the guy who trashed a Carrera GT at a track-side press event?
    But my hunch is Jonny can handle what they have. Convincing Porsche of that is entirely another matter.

  • avatar
    Terry Parkhurst

    Correction: Porsche had a fellow, etc. etc.

  • avatar
    Lesley Wimbush

    Hmm, up here each manufacturer has a rep that deals with journos and press fleets, we deal directly with that person.
    I don’t drive Porsches because I can’t afford the deductible.

  • avatar
    Jonny Lieberman

    Terry:

    I already had me a Porsche

  • avatar
    BimmerHead

    One Comment on the Saabaru 9-2x… Lieberman mentions that it’s a waste of money, costing more than a WRX… A brief search on autotrader appears to reveal that you can actually find used 9-2Xs at about 10% less than the cost of a comparably aged/mileaged WRX.

    I’m not about to go buy one or anything, but there is certainly something appealing to me about having a WRX that does not look like all the other WRXs out there…. particularly now that the 9-2x is discontinued.

  • avatar
    Jonny Lieberman

    From my perspective, the problem with that is that the Saabaur never made it over the hump — all of them have the weaker 2.0L engine, worse steering, cruddier brakes, etc.

    Despite looking like weird pigs, the ’06 WRX refresh is worth the money.

  • avatar

    Actually, the 2006 Saaburu’s have the 2.5L powerplant, both the turbo and the non-turbo models.

    And $5K in dealer money, as of last month, anyway.

  • avatar
    Stephan Wilkinson

    Lesley, I don’t get it. How do you pronounce Mazda? (I didn’t listen to the podcast, since I don’t believe in talking computers, so I don’t know how Lieberman pronounces it.) It is an ancient Persian word, so we can certainly find the proper pronunciation with a little effort.

    Of course, we all have our own, uh, North American ways of pronouncing car names, and not just Porsh. A Japanese wouldn’t know what you were talking about if you said “SOO-buh-roo,” since the name is properly pronounced “s’BAH-rew.” Same for the Korean Hyundai, which properly is something like “ch’UN-day. And I know people who after owning them for years persist in calling their crap SUVs I-ZOO-soos…

  • avatar
    UnclePete

    Stephan:

    You’re comments about pronounciation reminded me of my late maternal grandmother, who was born in Germany but learned English in Brooklyn in the 1920s… Toyotas were “TOY-otters”, and her last car, a nasty early model Hyundai was called a Hoon-DIE – that always made me laugh.

  • avatar
    Jonny Lieberman

    Stephan,

    Like this: Mazda, eh?

  • avatar
    Lesley Wimbush

    LOL! Exactly. Maaaaaaazzzda. :)

  • avatar
    radimus

    I found the comment about the cheapness of the F-150 interior to be a bit amusing. Obviously, Johnny is a bit clueless to the world of domestic pickup trucks. The interiors have always been cheap. For a long time they were entirely dreadful as well. Case in point, Chevy and GMC pickup interiors from the mid 70’s to 1987 just before the redesign in 1988. Cheap interiors are such a permenent fixture in domestic truck culture that it you try to change it too quickly you might send the clientele into shock.

  • avatar
    Jonny Lieberman

    radimus:

    Wait for my review, but I can quite familiar with “how a truck should be.”

    There is a difference between “no frills” and utter crap.

  • avatar
    Terry Parkhurst

    Jonny my man, I would really like you to do a review of the Tesla “roadster,” made by Tesla Motors of San Carlos, California. You might know, but if not, Martin Eberhard is the CEO and a co-founder. I can’t recall from my time living in Southern California how far San Carlos is from Los Angeles (city or county). But after reading about this new electric-powered
    machine – well, not all new, since it rides on a modified Lotus Elise platform – I considered contacting them to see if they could bring one north. I briefly thought about flying down; but there is no way I could make that “pencil out.” My hunch is, if you contacted them, Mr. Eberhard would find a way to get one to you. For what it is worth.

  • avatar
    Jonny Lieberman

    Terry,

    San Carlos is about 30 miles south of San Francisco, or about 370 miles from me.

    I’ve contacted them…. stay tuned.

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