Dealers Behaving Badly: FTC Seeks to Crack Down on F&I

Matthew Guy
by Matthew Guy

We would wager our combined annual salaries – a sum roughly equal to the value of a half dozen donuts from Krispy Kreme – that every single soul reading this website has a story or three about being blitzed with products in a dealer’s F&I office. Vehicle etching, useless warranties (sorry – this paper only covers mechanical fuel pumps), and p-packs up the wazoo are the bane of most shoppers’ existence when trying to buy a car.

Make no wonder some people call it the “Effin’ Eye” office.

This environment may change if the Federal Trade Commission gets its way. According to a report by Automotive News, a new proposal by the FTC would ban finance/insurance coverage and physical vehicle add-ons “that provide no benefit” while also requiring expanded disclosure on such items.

The commission’s notice of these proposed regulations was approved by a 4-1 vote earlier this week, said AN. An accompanying news release described some physical additions and F&I products as unfair add-ons, though the quartet of commissioners who voted in favor of these proposed regs did acknowledge that “not all add-ons provide no value.” Some of the items which rankled their feathers included misleading motor vehicle advertising, financing paperwork falsification, and so-called yo-yo financing practices.

“As auto prices surge, the commission is taking comprehensive action to prohibit junk fees, bait-and-switch advertising and other practices that hit consumers’ pocketbooks,” FTC Bureau of Consumer Protection Director Samuel Levine said in a statement. “Our proposed rule would save consumers time and money and help ensure a level playing field for honest dealers.”

Stated on page seven in the document linked above is a statement that the National Auto Dealers Association (NADA) suggests dealers averaged a profit of $2,444 per vehicle in pre-pandemic times, with more than half that profit coming from the F&I office. Today’s figures are surely skewed differently, what with obscene dealer markups on retail units being the norm rather than the exception. Your author has personally viewed deals with over $20,000 gross when counting both the front and back ends. And that was on a fairly pedestrian vehicle, not a bazillion-dollar hypercar. Gross, indeed.

A former colleague of this writer used to intentionally refer to the Business Manager at our store as the Finance Clerk, a term guaranteed to make the man’s blood pressure rise since he saw himself as a cornerstone of moneymaking operations at the place. While he did sell his share of WearCare and nitrogen-filled valve stem caps (seriously), there was always the overarching argument that his high-pressure tactics ‘in the box’ routinely scuppered scores the shopper would give on the brand’s follow-up survey, tanking any hope of a quarterly bonus even though the customer had little issue with the salesman himself.

How about you? Any horror stories from the Effin’ Eye office? Sound off in the comments below.

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Matthew Guy
Matthew Guy

Matthew buys, sells, fixes, & races cars. As a human index of auto & auction knowledge, he is fond of making money and offering loud opinions.

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  • Carlson Fan Carlson Fan on Jul 01, 2022

    When the F&I guy tried to sell me an extended warranty on my used Volt I just told him all the money I save not purchasing warranties I use to fix things when they break.....LOL The warranty only covered the car to up to a 100K miles and I knew no way in hell I'd spend over $2K in repairs before it rolled a 100K miles. And I was right, 0$ in repairs for the little Chevy.. .

  • Dothetime Dothetime on Jul 07, 2022

    of course since I'm here I'm a car savvy guy, an 85 year old lady neighbor asked me to accompany her to buy her Honda CRV off the lease she had. The F & I guy tried to scare the shit out of her by telling her that she needed to buy the extended warranty. He informed us that due to the chip shortage, if any of the chips in her car went bad it could cost her $2500-$5000 for repairs and if she needed a headlight housing it would be $2000.After I stopped laughing he tried to charge her $500 for her title transfer instead of the $250 previously agreed upon. We left with the proper charges and no extended warranty.

  • Bob Hey Tassos, have you seen it with top down. It's a permanent roll bar so if it flips no problem. It's the only car with one permanently there. So shoots down your issue. I had a 1998 for 10 years it was perfect, but yes slow. Hardly ever see any of them anymore.
  • 3-On-The-Tree 2007 Toyota Sienna bedsides new plugs, flat tire on I-10 in van Horn Tx on the way to Fort Huachuca.2021 Tundra Crewmax no issues2021 Rav 4 no issues2010 Corolla I put in a alternator in Mar1985 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ60 280,000mi I put in a new radiator back in 08 before I deployed, did a valve job, new fuel and oil pump. Leaky rear main seal, transmission, transfer case. Rebuild carb twice, had a recall on the gas tank surprisingly in 2010 at 25 years later.2014 Ford F159 Ecoboost 3.5L by 80,000mi went through both turbos, driver side leaking, passenger side completely replaced. Rear min seal leak once at 50,000 second at 80,000. And last was a timing chain cover leak.2009 C6 Corvette LS3 Base, I put in a new radiator in 2021.
  • ChristianWimmer 2018 Mercedes A250 AMG Line (W177) - no issues or unscheduled dealer visits. Regular maintenance at the dealer once a year costs between 400,- Euros (standard service) to 1200,- Euros (major service, new spark plugs, brake pads + TÜV). Had one recall where they had to fix an A/C hose which might become loose. Great car and fun to drive and very economical but also fast. Recently gave it an “Italian tune up” on the Autobahn.
  • Bd2 Lexus is just a higher trim package Toyota. ^^
  • Tassos ONLY consider CIvics or Corollas, in their segment. NO DAMNED Hyundais, Kias, Nissans or esp Mitsus. Not even a Pretend-BMW Mazda. They may look cute but they SUCK.I always recommend Corollas to friends of mine who are not auto enthusiasts, even tho I never owed one, and owned a Civic Hatch 5 speed 1992 for 25 years. MANY follow my advice and are VERY happy. ALmost all are women.friends who believe they are auto enthusiasts would not listen to me anyway, and would never buy a Toyota. They are damned fools, on both counts.
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