By on February 5, 2014

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Honda has announced that the hybrid gas-electric version of the 2014 Civic is now available across the United States and that later this month the compressed natural gas powered Civic will join the lineup in 37 states. The hybrid is rated by the EPA at 44/47/45 city/highway/combined miles per gallon while the CNG Civic is rated at 31 mpg across the board. Prices start at $24,635 for the hybrid and $26,640 for the CNG model.

The natural gas powered Civic comes with a $3,000 fuel credit that can be used at Clean Energy refueling stations. Clean Energy is the largest network of CNG stations in the U.S. If you live in an area not served by Clean Energy, your Civic CNG will come with a $2,000 prepaid debit card that you can use at other CNG stations.

The Civic CNG will not be sold in Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming.

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22 Comments on “2014 Honda Civic Hybrid On Sale Across U.S., CNG Civic to be Offered in 37 States...”


  • avatar
    frozenman

    This is great to see but I don’t get why they don’t use the accord for this? Might actually be interested then, especially CNG.

  • avatar
    sproc

    Can anyone explain why an individual would buy the CNG version? Is it purely green cred or is there something else to it? The hybrid seems vastly more appealing, useful, economical and resellable.

    For that matter, what’s the appeal to fleet managers? (The only Civic GX models I ever recall seeing were fleet cars.) Is there any used market, or do they all get scrapped?

    • 0 avatar
      goldtownpe

      Number 1 reason: $2 per “gallon” for CNG vs about $3.50/gal for gasoline. At 31 mpg combined, the CNG Civic cost $0.065/mile vs the hybrid at $0.078/mile.

      • 0 avatar
        Dan

        By saving those 1.3 cents per mile, that $27,000 Civic will break even against the $19,000 gas version in just 385,000 miles for Clean Energy customers and 462,000 miles for the rest of us.

        It’s pure profit after that!

      • 0 avatar
        George B

        Retail compressed natural gas prices are lower in some areas than others. The current CNG prices for Oklahoma City are well under $2/gal.

        http://www.altfuelprices.com/stations/CNG/Oklahoma/Oklahoma-City/

        Large fleet users have their own fueling stations which can refuel at a lower price than the retail stations. In some areas there are incentives like solo access to HOV lanes and tax incentives for CNG vehicles.

        • 0 avatar
          50merc

          Yep, as low as $1.41 according to that website. Right now in the OKC metro area non-adulterated gasoline is running about $3.25; the ethanol junk about $3.00. If I were running a fleet of short-haul vehicles I’d definitely look into CNG.

      • 0 avatar
        RogerB34

        Won’t work:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent

        • 0 avatar
          Lorenzo

          Careful with those comparisons. The lb. of CNG listed isn’t equivalent to a gallon of gasoline. That gallon weighs 6.5 lbs. so on a per pound basis, CNG has more BTUs. It all depends on how the CNG is sold.

          Besides, how many people calculate fuel costs over a year or the life of a vehicle? Most people notice how much they have to shell out for a fill-up. If a tankful is cheaper, they’ll think it’s a bargain.

    • 0 avatar
      polpo

      At least in California, the CNG version gets you access to the carpool lane when driving solo. However, the only CNG stations I’ve ever seen are at the airport, presumably for CNG-fueled taxis which seem relatively common.

    • 0 avatar
      jeoff

      Milage from the honda website is 27 city / 38 hwy/ 31 combined. Which makes it very cheap to run for highway miles. A co-worker has one for her commute from the exurbs of Atlanta into the city. She has a lot of highway miles, plus she gets to use the carpool lanes.

  • avatar
    ciscokidinsf

    So is a Honda Civic Hybrid a good choice now?

    I wanted one before, but also remember TTAC saying the Tranny issues were galore as the Civic Hybrid was using the Powertrain of the much smaller Insight. Ending in predictable disasters. Plus the battery seemed also too weak for a larger car.

    Even the buy-here/pay-here dealers have them discounted here in California. Not so much the Priuses.

    Best & Brightest – What say you? Should I just buy a regular 2009-2010 Gas Civic or is this new Hybrid a better alternative?

    • 0 avatar
      Hemi

      I would get a Prius.

      FWIW, besides getting you HOV lane privilege in some states, I dont see a benefit to certain hybrids. Especially the Civic and others in this segment. With my 04 Corolla I was able to get at least 30mpg city and easy 40 on the highway. Why pay so much more for a hybrid? In 2014, the hybrid is capable of mid 40s… Not that great of a feat. 

      The Accord hybrid seems to get good MPG based on its size. That’s something I would recommend, unless you need something smaller. Then get a Prius or any used econobox in good shape. 

      Shit my current Hemi Charger sucks in the city, but sees easy 25-30mpg on the highway. Oh yes, it’s also got almost 400 horses, fits 5 people easy and plenty of luggage. 

      I think hybrids have a ways to go, until they get at least 60-70mpg I’m not buying. 

  • avatar
    goldtownpe

    31mpg across the board for the CNG? Only a hybrid can get the same city mpg as it does on the highway. Someone needs to check the Honda press release. 27/38/31 city/highway/combined is what it says.

  • avatar
    KitaIkki

    Civic Hybrid gets worse MPG ratings than Accord Hybrid

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    The CNG station closest to me is 20 miles away, which would take more planning than just plugging in my car at home. On the plus side, though, there are enough CNG sites that you could cross the country in such a car.

    http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/natural_gas_locations.html

    As for the Civic Hybrid, I’d still go with a Prius V, given Honda’s track record with hybrids. If this latest attempt bombs (as it is likely to do), Honda will kill it just like they’ve done before.

  • avatar
    Atum

    The CNG and these alternative fuel vehicles bother me. I live in a highly populated county with nearly 700,000 people, and there isn’t even a CNG station in the eastern part; the nearest one is in Atlanta.

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    I’ve read that Honda is addressing the poverty spec only interior on the CNG Civic – my question is, do they address the non-truck issue also.

    I would be VERY interested in this car now you can get leather, nav, upgraded stereo, etc. etc. IF it has a trunk, and not an access hatch to a large CNG cylinder that once was a trunk as was the case in the previous gen model.

    CNG makes huge sense as an alternative fuel.

  • avatar

    There are several CNG compressors on the market to allow home-filling of CNG cars from residential low-pressure gas lines.

    They slow fill (less than .5 gallon equivalent per hour), but the cost for fuel is very, very low, even including the electricity to run the compressor.

    (In some states the utilities subsidize the compressor, and some even give consumers lower rates on all their gas usage is they install a compressor)

    Saw a setup like this in a model home last fall, the builder put in a compressor and used it to keep a CNG Civic topped up. He had nothing but good things to say about it.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      I think those compressors run at 5000 psi – nothing to trifle with. And if the compressor goes down, so does the car.

      I prefer to put all that electricity into my car battery using a simple/cheap charger, and just let the low-pressure NG keep my house warm.

  • avatar
    Toshi

    1) The Civic Natural Gas makes a lot of sense for those in HOV-access-for-CNG states (California being a huge one) who also commute for supra-LEAF-range distances. For those with shorter commutes a LEAF makes much more sense as a frugal new commuter (also with HOV access), as it is cheaper, nicer, and roomier, especially in trunk/cargo space. For everyone else the Civic NG makes not a whit of sense, IMO.

    2) National Geographic, iirc, published that CNG actually has a detrimental near term (ie, this century) effect on global warming due to methane leakage. Its long term benefit is small, too. There are real national security reasons to power vehicles with CNG but the environmental side of that argument is weak.

    3) Home refueling is possible with Vehicle Refueling Appliances like the Fuelmaker Phill and FMQ2-36. Neither of those make financial sense, at least when I did the math, as they’re at least twice as expensive as an installed level 2 EVSE setup, if not a whole order of magnitude more expensive. Factor in mandatory rebuilds and the cost of electricity to run the VRE’s compressor and the price per GGE advantage over commercial CNG filling stations in most regions is negligible.

    4) A 50 cent/gge excise tax credit for fueling stations expired in 2013. This has caused CNG prices to jump by about–you guessed it–50 cents/gge in many regions. There still exists huge price variability by region, from near $1.50 in Oklahoma to $2.89 in Boise, just to name two recent data points off the top of my head. (Gasoline is $3/gallon in Boise, rendering CNG vehicles a total non-starter, especially considering their lower power and lower miles per gallon-equivalent that erodes the price differential.)


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