By on April 26, 2022

Jeep

It looks like the time of V8 Jeep Grand Cherokees will soon be over. This may be because the 4xe plug-in hybrid is 0.9 seconds quicker to 60 mph than the 5.7-liter Hemi V8.

Jeep is moving in the direction of hybrids over V8s for its flagship namesake, the Grand Cherokee, according to Motor Authority, who spoke with Jeep’s boss, Jim Morrison. Jeep will continue to produce performance variants of the WL-generation Grand Cherokee, but they won’t be powered by V8s moving forward.

According to Motor Authority, the V8 is not coming back to the Grand Cherokee model line. The Trackhawk designation may also be replaced with another nameplate moving forward.

The executive quoted confirmed that the larger Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer will be electrified by 2025, but he wouldn’t confirm that they’ll use an electrified powertrain based on the new turbocharged inline-6 that in standard form will produce 420 horsepower and 468 lb-ft of torque, with a high-output version rated at 510 hp and 500 lb-ft. These numbers are before the addition of an electric motor which could boost output to more than 700 hp.

Towing capacity currently sits at 7,200 lb. with the 392 Hemi, one of the highest ratings in its class. The V6 is rated at 6,200 lb. and the 4xe PHEV is rated at 6,000 lb. When asked about raising the towing limit to V8 levels, Morrison smirked when the interviewer hinted at the possibility of a plug-in hybrid turbo-six.

The old-school Hemi V8s of yesterday may have their days numbered. Other news nuggets mined by MA include Morrison suggesting there won’t ever be a production V8 Gladiator, but a 4xe version seems imminent. So, too, does a 4xe version of the Grand Cherokee L.

Pour one out for the Hemi.

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36 Comments on “Report: Jeep to Drop V8 For Electrification in the Grand Cherokee...”


  • avatar
    Chi-One

    Good thing I got my JGC L Overland HEMI last year! Goes nicely with my PCP Challenger R/T.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    The good news about being almost completely disinterested in this car is that I don’t have to worry about what’s under the hood. Electrify away, Jeep!

    • 0 avatar
      jalop1991

      “uninterested,” not “disinterested”. Two different words, two different meanings.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        Beg to differ, sir.

        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disinterested

        dis·​in·​ter·​est·​ed | (ˌ)dis-ˈin-trə-stəd ; -ˈin-tə-ˌre-, -tə-rə-, -tər-; -ˈin-ˌtre-
        Definition of disinterested:

        1a: not having the mind or feelings engaged (see ENGAGED sense 1) : not interested
        telling them in a disinterested voice
        — Tom Wicker
        disinterested in women
        — J. A. Brussel
        b: no longer interested
        husband and wife become disinterested in each other
        — T. I. Rubin
        2: free from selfish motive or interest (see INTEREST entry 1 sense 1a) : UNBIASED
        a disinterested decision
        disinterested intellectual curiosity is the lifeblood of real civilization
        — G. M. Trevelyan

  • avatar
    ajla

    I’ve said before that the final newly introduced *car* for under $100K with a V8 will be the next Mustang. Half-ton trucks and light-duty SUVs will be dropping it in the next 5 years. If the C9 Corvette offers a V8 at all it will only be on some super-priced special edition.

    After 2028 the configuration will solely be the domain of used/classics, $150K+ premium vehicles, and HD vans/trucks.

  • avatar
    EBFlex

    In other words, get em now while they are still good.

    It’s a shame Jeep is getting sucked into this nonsense. Nothing says “saving the planet from the non existent global warming” like lithium mines and electricity generated from fossil fuels.

    • 0 avatar
      Bill Wade

      Yep. Just bought a 392 Scat Pack 6 speed Challenger before they’re gone.

      Electric may be faster but have no soul.

      • 0 avatar
        mcs

        @Bill Wade: ” faster but have no soul.”

        I see that phrase a lot. What exactly do you mean by that? I’ve ridden horses and driven ICE cars and have spent lots of time with an EV. I’ve read that automobiles have no soul compared to horses and I can’t argue that, but I don’t see it with ICE vs. EV.

        • 0 avatar
          ajla

          “Soul” might be overstating it but I do still have affinity for the mechanical feedback of an ICE vehicle.
          I expect you’d agree that there is the sensation a lot “more” is happening when driving an ICE vehicle (especially an older one) versus a BEV.
          I think for the vast majority of drivers they’ll prefer the natural, “luxurious” BEV experience and folks in your income bracket can buy a BEV hypercar, but I’ll be interested to see how BEVs develop in more affordable performance segments beyond offering mega acceleration.

          • 0 avatar
            mcs

            I like mechanical engines too. Even antiques. Love the sound of old flatheads too. Horses too. They all have their own characteristics. I like everything. For daily driving and racing, I’ll take electric. For toys, I like everything. For an ADV motorcycling in distant areas, it’s still ICE.

            As far as sensation goes, my fastest ICEs had superchargers that sounded similar to EVs. To me, the most fun ICEs are way underpowered and require skill to keep them going. In comparison, a modern V8 or 12 is every bit an appliance as an EV compared to vintage cars.

        • 0 avatar

          What is the definition of “soul” aside from music genre? Is it a computer code, aspect of AI? If it is then EV has much more soul than ICEV, especially Tesla.

          • 0 avatar
            Jeff S

            Bill on Curious Cars calls Teslas toasters. I doubt that eliminating V8s is Jeeps choice as much as a measure to comply with the upcoming stringent mpg requirements.

        • 0 avatar
          dal20402

          A lot of people — self included — have a lot of associations built up over time with the sound and feel of ICE powertrains. I think EVs are unquestionably better than ICE cars in every practical respect except for very long-distance travel, and yet I still find the sound of a V8 or straight-six interesting in a way that an electric motor is not.

          For me, though, that’s not enough to drive a purchase decision, except maybe for an indulgent occasional-use toy. And if I’m going to buy a car just for fun I’m going to go all the way and get a stick.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            “And if I’m going to buy a car just for fun I’m going to go all the way and get a stick.”

            Have a stick dropped in your Legend, and mate up that RL motor while you’re at it. I know you could write a check for it :D

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            I’ll want something a bit more driverish than the Legend, thanks. I expect I will be selling the Legend at some point while it looks and runs great and the market is crazy, and the proceeds from it will partly fund the next car.

          • 0 avatar
            Jeff S

            @dal20402–The market is still crazy hot and used car prices are high. Carvana gave me 4k more than I paid for my low mileage 2012 Lacrosse. If you want to sell your car now is the time.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            @dal

            Earlier today I saw a clean looking MY02 S10 4×2 on Reddit for like $22,000. I can’t gauge a Legend but I know it will be more than you paid for it (since it was fairly clean to start with IIRC and you’ve taken care of it).

            @Jeff

            Not sure if Carvana et al have age limits to what they buy, I haven’t seen them advertise classics to this point but their market seems to be newish used as opposed to collectables/classics.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            Once I have the thing ready I think I’ll probably list it for $12,000, which is a bit too much but not totally outlandish in this market, and see if I get any bites.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            @dal

            I’ll invoice you for my commission :D

      • 0 avatar
        EBFlex

        “Yep. Just bought a 392 Scat Pack 6 speed Challenger before they’re gone.

        Electric may be faster but have no soul.”

        Very jealous. I want to find a low mileage 6.4 Challenger (with the 8-speed) in a few years. I have no interest in owning a boring, soulless appliance that is nothing more than a garbage power wheels for adults. EVs make a Prius feel like a Ferrari.

        • 0 avatar
          Jeff S

          Well you might want to buy one sooner than later because they will go up in value once they stop making them. You might be able to wait a year or two but not too much longer. This is the last hurrah for the special Hemis.

          • 0 avatar
            redapple

            Bill Wade
            I look at it as listening to vinyl on a McIntosh set up
            VS
            Audio file on my Phone.

            No BEV for me.
            Getting a 392 Challenger soon.

        • 0 avatar
          Luke42

          “EVs make a Prius feel like a Ferrari.”

          It’s clear you’ve never driven either a Prius or an EV.

          The closest thing I’ve experienced to driving a Tesla outside of “chill” mode is flying near-aerobatic maneuvers in aircraft.

          The only thing a Ferrari and a Prius have in common is the noisy engine – but not that’s not necessarily a good thing. NVH for EVs is vastly superior to everything ICE – even the lowly Leaf & Volt both feels like a luxury car in terms of NVH. It’s easy to make it smooth when you remove the explosion engine.

          • 0 avatar
            ajla

            “even the lowly Leaf & Volt both feels like a luxury car in terms of NVH. It’s easy to make it smooth when you remove the explosion engine.”

            That’s excellent if you’re building a luxury car but perhaps less great if you’re trying to sell a Camaro ZL1 or McLaren 750LT.

          • 0 avatar
            mcs

            I’ve driven all – Prius, Ferrari, and EVs. Been around Ferraris and other exotics since childhood. Yeah, Ferraris can make nice sounds, but they inevitably make other not-so-nice sounds.

          • 0 avatar
            EBFlex

            “It’s clear you’ve never driven either a Prius or an EV.

            The closest thing I’ve experienced to driving a Tesla outside of “chill” mode is flying near-aerobatic maneuvers in aircraft.

            The only thing a Ferrari and a Prius have in common is the noisy engine – but not that’s not necessarily a good thing. NVH for EVs is vastly superior to everything ICE – even the lowly Leaf & Volt both feels like a luxury car in terms of NVH. It’s easy to make it smooth when you remove the explosion engine.”

            lol imagine being this wrong and this out of touch.

    • 0 avatar
      RHD

      Nothing like burying your head in the sand and spouting the same, lame old tropes.

      Some people think that the only way to move forward is to stay mired in the past. Sheesh.

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    Jeep’s boss, Jim Morrison. Break on through..

    The folks at Buick/Opel wanted to use Light my fire for a Kadett ad but the band refused since they didn’t want their art affixed to a commercial.

    • 0 avatar
      ToolGuy

      At my first decent hourly job, the owner of the place had some eclectic interests — he played drums, and he wrote a sales jingle that played over and over on the radio for years.

      As it turns out, on the day that The Doors recorded Light My Fire, their regular drummer wasn’t feeling well, so they asked my old boss to fill in and he graciously agreed. So that’s him you hear on the record. (He told me himself and why would anyone lie to a gullible kid?)

      https://www.songfacts.com/facts/the-doors/light-my-fire

      • 0 avatar
        AK

        @ToolGuy – Shenanigans on the drummer story. The only time I’ve heard someone say Densmore didn’t play drums on that album was when I got into an argument with session bass player Carol Kaye. She tried to tell me the entire debut album was her and the wrecking crew, with Hal Blaine on drums and Tommy Tedesco on guitar.

        Despite having a legendary career with an ungodly amount of credits to her name, she was still capable of being delusional and weird.

        • 0 avatar
          MRF 95 T-Bird

          The Wrecking crew with Hal Blaine on drums played on a number of legendary recordings from Sinatra, Glen Campbell etc. but the Doors, nope they were they’re own band.

          Ed Sullivan was such a fuddy duddy that he had problems with the lyrics of Light my fire. Apparently Jim said “what do you want me to sing, bite my wire” A term that EV proponents can use.

        • 0 avatar
          ToolGuy

          @AK, that is extremely cool that you got to have a discussion (argument) with Carol Kaye.

          This documentary is AMAZING (and explains why I loved many of the songs I loved as a kid):
          https://www.amazon.com/Wrecking-Crew-Brian-Wilson/dp/B00UMX6WPC

          I am (now) 99.9999% confident that that dude was pulling my leg. But as a dumb kid I had my doubts. :-)

    • 0 avatar
      AK

      Even worse – the band accepted the deal because it was a good amount of money and they couldn’t get a hold of Jim to ask his opinion/vote. Then when he returned and was told about it, he threatened to smash an Opel on stage unless they cancelled the deal.

  • avatar
    SPPPP

    “…flagship namesake, the Grand Cherokee…”

    The Grand Cherokee is not the namesake of Jeep. Demonstrated by the fact that the names are entirely different.

    And even if they were the same, Jeep was called Jeep before the Grand Cherokee was called the Grand Cherokee … so the “saking” should really be going the other way. I know that people use “namesake” in both directions, such as grandfather John and grandson Johnny. But I think the closest equivalent term to “sake” is “cause”. “Do it for the sake of the children” could be stated as “Do it for the cause of the children” or “Do it because of the children.” The grandfather is the cause of the grandson being named John, and not the other way around. (That would introduce a time paradox.)

    As for the actual vehicle, well … I think they made it large enough that giving it an adequately powerful V8 engine would require turbochargers or excessive displacement, and impact fuel economy in a way that Jeep just isn’t ready to deal with. I don’t think a performance JGC makes that much sense anymore, as it is kind of huge now. So, I guess the V8 won’t be too much missed in this vehicle.

  • avatar
    Ol Shel

    Don’t fret. You can still dump gasoline in your wells.

  • avatar
    BEPLA

    Considering the original Grand Cherokee was a straight-6 – and the later V8 was overkill – nothing of value has been lost.

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