By on December 7, 2020

Environmental activist Jamie Henn, and his firm, Fossil Free Media, are attacking advertising and PR agencies that work on oil industry accounts. Their initiative, Clean Creatives, is designed to shame some of the world’s largest PR and ad agencies in hopes that they will resign.

“We want to get PR and ad agencies to stop working with the oil industry because they are spreading misinformation about climate change and lobbying action to address the crisis,” said Henn. “Our reliance on fossil fuels is driving global warming which will have serious impacts on our environment, health, and economy.”

“In order to address the crisis, we want to see action at the local, state, and federal level that helps move us to a clean energy economy that runs on renewable energy as much as possible,” Henn stated. His rationale for attacking advertising and PR creatives that work on petroleum company accounts? “The problem is, anytime we get serious about climate action, the fossil fuel industry spends hundreds of millions of dollars on PR and advertising designed to mislead the public and lobby against climate action.”

“When it comes to cars, the transition to electric vehicles is coming whether the industry wants it or not. Look at Tesla’s growing market share. Or the moves by GM into all-electric vehicles,” Henn said. “I’d think that a planned transition (i.e. government incentives, tax breaks, etc.) would actually help auto dealers, used or otherwise, take advantage of new opportunities, rather than just leaving it up to the free market.”

Yet, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA), roughly half of the reductions that the world needs to achieve net-zero emissions in the coming decades must come from technologies that have not yet reached the market today. To do so would require systems that are bigger, better targeted, broader, more stable, and more equitable. The Columbia University Center on Global Energy Policy (CGEP) said “The federal government spends less than $9 billion annually on energy innovation, less than a quarter of what it invests in health innovation and less than a tenth of what it invests in defense innovation.”

U.S. energy research and development (R&D) spending spiked after the 1970s oil crisis, but when oil prices fell it plunged, and as a percentage of US GDP (Gross Domestic Product), it never recovered.

“Starting in 1984, private funding for energy RD&D [research, design, and development] and U.S. energy patents declined for the next two decades,” the CGEP wrote. “In 2019, VCs (Venture Capitalists) invested just $1 billion into U.S. energy companies, compared with about $20 billion for health care and $70 billion for information technology firms.

“We’re not trying to blame anyone for driving a gas car (or selling them). I drive a gas car. I rent an apartment that is heated by gas. I get on airplanes. I do my best to lower my carbon footprint, but ultimately we don’t have the power as individuals to live a fossil-free lifestyle. That’s exactly why we run campaigns like this one: to try and change the systems that we live within and make it so that everyone has the opportunity and access to 100% renewable energy. My hope is that instead of keeping us stuck in the past, PR and ad agencies can help move us into the future,” Henn added.

Henn maintains there are advantages to owning an electric car. Well, it’s not weight, as electric vehicles are 20-30 percent heavier due to the use of multiple batteries to provide the same power output as comparable ICE cars. Selection isn’t a plus, as there are fewer models of electric vehicles available, at least at present. Purchase price? No, EVs are 20-40 percent more expensive than gas cars, even with incentives and tax rebates. The range for most EVs fully charged is around 100 miles, although a Tesla S can go 250 miles, and other EVs are starting to show higher range. Gas cars get 250-300 miles between fill-ups on the low end, and availability of gas pumps isn’t a problem, unlike finding a charging station, which also leads to range anxiety.

Where EVs may have an advantage is in the overall maintenance cost of an electric car, with fewer mechanical parts, and less frequent servicing required. Pollution is another, as chemical energy stored in its batteries is converted to mechanical energy needed to run without creating emissions. Those batteries, by the way, are good for about eight years, and the replacement cost is anywhere from $1,000 – $6,000, which usually occurs after the warranty on the batteries runs out. Having owned a first-generation Honda Insight hybrid EV, it didn’t get anywhere near the MPGs advertised, and going uphill especially in inclement weather was always an adventure.

Henn’s targeting of agencies comes at a time when the advertising industry, and many different types of companies that advertise, are being hit hard by the economic and societal impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic. Zenith, a respected media planning firm, projects that total global advertising expenditures will decline by over 9 percent for 2020. Traditional advertising is under a lot of pressure (particularly print and TV), while digital spending is showing some strength into the second half of 2020 and the full year of 2021. Henn and his associates want someone to blame for presenting the oil industry in a favorable light. Shooting the messenger may be a time-honored emotional response, but it doesn’t appear to be a very effective method of shutting down the oil pipeline.

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52 Comments on “Activist Attacks Oil Companies by Shaming Ad Agencies...”


  • avatar
    Cicero

    This is emblematic of what’s happening throughout society today. The Left knows what’s best for you and will enforce it any way they can, regardless of your own opinions, values or your desire to simply be left alone. They are are budding totalitarians in every sense.

    I hope the ad agencies give them the big middle finger, but having seen industry after industry cave rather than face the onslaught, I doubt that they will.

    • 0 avatar
      Lorenzo

      The ad agencies are in it for the money. Oil companies have the money to advertise, and the ad agencies will create and market the ads. Shaming does nothing. Liberace was shamed for his outlandish outfits, and claimed, “I laugh all the way to the bank.”

    • 0 avatar
      Pig_Iron

      China laughs at us, while they fund Henn.
      :-/

    • 0 avatar
      FreedMike

      Stopped reading post at “The Left.”

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      I read an article predicting this a few weeks ago. Essentially American proles won’t be able to invest in fossil fuels via mutual funds/401ks etc because their social betters are going to divest and move the money into green fraud. The article argued the American leftist is mocked in other parts of the world because of their hypocrisy and the rest of the world will invest their monies into fossil fuels after stocks decline and come out on top. I’ve traveled just a bit but one thing I did pick up was the First World basically consists of: 1. ‘Murcia and 2. Everyone else. What I learned from being in the land of “everyone else” is ‘murica kind of sucks in a lot of ways. But you’d never see or think this if you never leave the gilded cage of Amerika. I doubt it was always this way.

      • 0 avatar
        Old_WRX

        28-Cars-Later,

        “‘murica kind of sucks in a lot of ways.”

        It’s been this way for quite a while. I remember in the ’80’s someone who had recently been to Mexico told me that American tourist were at risk of being spit on there. This country has not had the best rep for a long time.

      • 0 avatar
        el scotto

        @ 28-Cars-Later Sir, the stock market is the absolute worse example to say American’s won’t be able to invest fossil fuels via a mutual fund. If something can make money, there will be a mutual fund for it. On the floor of the stock exchange the floor broker doesn’t know, care, or give a rat’s butt what kind of money bought his shares, he just wants the number of the guy who bought them. Your mutual fund doesn’t buy fossil fuels? Find one that does. The floor of the New York stock exchange is pure capitalism on display five days a week. It’s brutally honest too. Trades are settled by the end of the day. Yes, there mutual funds that bend to a political trend and they’re mostly progressive/liberal/left leaning to show that they’re doing “good”. I haven’t found a Stellantis/Phillip Morris/Winchester/Diageo mutual fund yet. There ought to be one.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          I wasn’t the author of the original piece but I tended to agree with him. If the upper echelon of the trading/investing world wants to run down energy stocks and arrange the major funds to divest and move the muppet’s money into “woke” BS for them to buy low, that’s exactly what will happen. Proles don’t pay attention to their 401ks and allocations are typically limited by the broker to X number of funds. Such a thing wouldn’t be impossible to pull off, esp if the green fraud sector were suddenly juiced by zee Feds or the MMs start a bull run. We live in Clown World after all, TSLA is proof of it.

    • 0 avatar
      RHD

      The ad agencies are businesses in it for the money. ALL businesses are in it for the money, including oil companies. The problem is that it’s profitable to fill our atmosphere with millions-of-years-old carbon, which is screwing up the weather patterns something fierce (no matter how much the deniers deny it, to their convenience).

      When it’s more profitable to put up solar panels and sell electricity instead of pumping oil and selling gasoline and diesel, it will happen. Hopefully Florida and New Orleans will still be above water when that happens.

      • 0 avatar
        Old_WRX

        RHD,

        “no matter how much the deniers deny it”

        You do know that as soon as you pull out the pejoratives “conspiracy theory/ist,” and “deniers” you impugn your own credibility, don’t you? Whenever I see one of both of those terms in something I’m reading, it raises an immediate red flag. I seriously doubt that, whether or not I believe that man made “climate change” (née “global warming”) is happening or not, has one iota of effect on the temperature.

    • 0 avatar
      6250Claimer

      50 years of failed climate change predictions by “scientists”, all in one neat archive.

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1109923374568890368.html

    • 0 avatar
      Superdessucke

      Well, for those griping, they did just win by a 7 million popular vote disparity. I get that there are allegations of voter fraud but the basement of the QAnon Pizzeria was just too small to print that many additional ballots. People actually voted for Biden.

      So you can expect things like this to continue, particularly if they retake the Senate via GA. It did work, after all. If you want it to stop, vote.

  • avatar
    ajla

    Browbeating people with paternalistic language like some sort new age temperance movement is not likely to be successful.

    You would think someone touting the success of Tesla would understand the best way forward but some people just can’t turn their scolding finger off.

    • 0 avatar
      Pig_Iron

      It will be successful if Biden’s election fraud is allowed to prevail. :-/

      • 0 avatar
        SCE to AUX

        Election fraud? Please explain the mechanics of that.

        To commit fraud effectively, you need:

        1. To assume your candidate will lose, and therefore months ahead of time come up with a plan.

        2. A nationwide conspiracy of poll workers who are willing to commit a felony.

        3. These poll workers are able to commit their Dirty Deed at just the right moment, without detection.

        4. These poll workers don’t tell *anybody* what they did, even while drinking or near death from Covid.

        5. Foreknowledge of the individual districts and states which will swing the election for legislature, Congress, or President in your favor. “Get out the vote” efforts are not fraud, especially in areas that are always spoken for (heavily D or R).

        6. To beat the *other* side’s efforts at fraud. In this election for President, the Republicans had more reason to commit fraud than the Democrats. Their candidate was clearly unpopular heading into November.

        Losing an election doesn’t mean fraud occurred. If the losing side wants to win, they always have next time to put up better candidates or better platforms.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          1. Worst candidates since Mondale/Ferraro in 1984. Hillary/Kane were better and that’s saying a lot.

          2. Dozens, tops. Works even better if some of the handlers are mafia because then you don’t have to worry about disposal later. Don’t scoff, they helped “elect” Kennedy.

          https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-nov-09-mn-51973-story.html

          3. Stop counting at midnight and whoosh next morning its completely flipped.

          4. Uh nobody well connected ever talked about their role in the Kennedy Assassination either except E. Howard Hunt on his deathbed. What you would need is a roster of who these poll workers were and determine if any had fictitious identities or have disappeared from site since then. Slipping in a team in key locations isn’t really hard. You’d also want to start watching for “suicides” of anyone connected to the key fraud states.

          5. Not hard to plan the optimal places to insert or change your ballots… assuming of course you don’t even need to do that but instead just create ballots and mail them in (or deliver) where that was allowed. This whole charade aside, a mail ballot system 100% invites some level of fraud, ****which is why it was never done before****. Absentee and military ballots were always counted last because by the time they got to them the elections were already decided and their amounts were small. We all learned this in 2000.

          6. I have no doubt there was fraud on both sides but I have yet to hear a claim by the Dims where they were denied watching the process in a Rep district, where live vote tallys went up 139,000 or whatever votes but then was explained as a “glitch” when called on it, or where there was a “water main break” which sent people home and created a window for whatever illegal events may have occurred. A little too convenient, kinda like those mysterious brick pallets ahead of riots in June.

          As stated allowing mass mail ballots 100% introduced a new kind of fraud into the system. How much there was, if it was coordinated, and if it was enough to actually shape an outcome, I cannot say.

          Per the fake news UK edition, Sen Biden’s on camera comments of: ““We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”” were “a slip of the tongue”. Yes they actually are trying to spin his obvious dementia induced comments as ***”a slip of the tongue”***. Nice, so either you “elected” a man 8/10th dead whose mind is so gone he actually says on camera “voter fraud organization” instead of, hell anything to describe AP’s claims, or “elected” someone who was quite lucid at the time and made a Freudian slip.

          https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-biden-voter-protection-not-idUSKBN27E2VH

          • 0 avatar
            Old_WRX

            28-Cars-Later

            Nothing wrong in this video…

            youtube.com/watch?v=x-7E-71Av0k

          • 0 avatar
            SCE to AUX

            @28:

            Coordination is the key ingredient that no conspiracy theorist wants to discuss. Throwing a national election undetected is very hard to do.

            Same as Covid: It’s grand conspiracy of lies concocted worldwide by medical providers of all stripes, in an effort to discredit the President and turn us all into obedient proles. *Every* alleged Covid death is explainable due to some co-morbidity or fake data.

            Never mind the deaths of young people, athletes, medical people, celebrities, all political affiliations, etc, and the statistically-proven effects of a virus with high R0.

            Oddly, such people believe the Obama-era CDC statistics, but not the Trump-era CDC stats.

            As for the election – I voted by mail, and not for any D’s. I simply didn’t want to mingle with a bunch of heavy breathers at my polling location. I took a photo of my ballot before mailing it, which gives me more record of my vote than I get at the polls.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            @old_wrx

            I didn’t refer to that video in point six. I referred to numerous interviews given by Republican poll watchers who were blocked or tossed out the night of, the 138,000 glitch which we are now calling “clerical error”, and a convenient water main break which has been confirmed as factual. My favorite is the AP’s whitewashing article entitled: “Why poll watcher complaints don’t amount to fraud”. Oh ok so even if they were denied its not fraud, but then yeah there’s no proof so nothing to see here.

            “So where did the error begin? Several data hounds spotted the error in media compilations of state data.

            The clerical error occurred in Shiawassee County and was quickly quickly caught, the New York Times reported. “All it was is there was an extra zero that got typed in,” Abby Bowen, the election clerk, told the Times, according to reporter Jack Nicas. Bowen told the Times that a state official noted the error, contacted the county in about 20 minutes and the typo was fixed.”

            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/04/fact-check-typo-led-false-post-michigan-votes-biden/6164385002/

            https://www.wvlt.tv/2020/11/04/some-ballots-will-not-be-counted-until-wednesday-in-georgia-following-water-main-break/

            https://apnews.com/article/why-poll-watcher-complaint-not-fraud-9ac60f20604f5aadbeaa8d5bee598a4a

            @SCE

            Depending on the method of action, I disagree. Assuming it has to deal with physical ballots, small covert teams at key locations using false identities is not far fetched. CIA has been rigging elections for decades in other countries, repeating such techniques is not out of the realm of possibility.

            “As Dov Levin shows in his book, “Meddling in the Ballot Box,” the U.S. and the Soviet Union (and subsequently Russia) engaged in 117 covert or overt foreign electoral interventions to help or hinder candidates or parties between 1946 and 2000, with the U.S. accounting for 81 of these cases (or 69% of the total).”

            https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2020/10/29/commentary/world-commentary/america-still-interfere-foreign-elections/

            The COVID virus is very real but is not the result of a “grand” conspiracy but of a much smaller one. While the election was clearly part of the strategy, I do not believe this plot was enacted to just get rid of the President. There are two key events happening starting in 2020: 1. the Western financial world is migrating the current SWIFT system to a new international standard, ISO20022. 2. Grand Solar Minimum has been predicted to begin in this decade.

            Some argue the 20022 standard was designed to enable a digital currency controlled by central banks both to combat the decentralized digital currencies but also to enable them to enter other markets. A fast worldwide standard of clearing financial transactions is a de facto global currency. I don’t think I even need to elaborate on the impact of such a thing to the Petrodollar (this may also explain the exponential debt being created from Fed printing, if the Petrodollar system is about to be replaced why not print dollars to the moon and acquire as many real assets as possible before then?).

            Grand Solar Minimum has been talked about for years, and will have great impact on the Earth’s climate. If even some of the predictions made by researchers come to pass, it will have significant impact on the global economy, supply chain, and food supply.

            https://cib.db.com/insights-and-initiatives/white-papers/guide-to-iso-20022-migration-part-3.htm

            https://blockchain.news/analysis/iso-20022-payments-revolution-central-banks-strike-back-against-bitcoin-defi-xrp-will-boom

            https://medium.com/@globalcooling/solar-researchers-try-to-warn-about-global-food-shortages-83af109cac37

            I have no doubt there is a real virus, but the above two points are good enough reason to release a mild bio weapon on the world in order to create the hysteria and fear -but also distraction- we are now witnessing. A new de facto global currency coupled with significant climate impact is huge and is much easier to implement in societies with reduced freedoms.

            I also personally believe this is related to Peak Oil but adding that to the others almost makes the situation feel like a bad Michael Bay movie (well more so since the first two points are documented). I’ll also float the awful (and terribly morbid) idea COVID is a “remedy” for Boomers whose SS/Medicare liabilities on paper cannot be met. The Boomer generation as a whole is far more sickly than the two generations before it were, between existing co-morbidities and if hospital capacity were overrun, even Boomers without COVID are at health risk because they cannot get treatment. I haven’t seen data but I’ve read speculation more people died earlier in the year from not seeking care for unrelated illness than from a COVID diagnosis. I sincerely hope I am wrong on these points.

            “I voted by mail, and not for any D’s. I simply didn’t want to mingle with a bunch of heavy breathers at my polling location.”

            I find this thinking interesting. A person will mingle with the unwashed masses for other more essential reasons, i.e. food shopping, commuting on public transit, but not for their civic duty which was pretty darn important this year. I went to my polling station where masks were obviously required -also no line- and they presented me with a paper form to fill in with marker. I asked about the electronic machines and was told “COVID”. Now I don’t see why it would be so difficult to have latex gloves handy and spray the touchscreen down after each use, but OK, paper ballot which the volunteer then scanned into a machine. So given the paper ballot precaution and mask usage, there really was no more risk than shopping from the voter standpoint. Yet the prevailing attitude seems to have been “F that”. Curious.

      • 0 avatar
        Old_WRX

        Pig_Iron,

        Last I heard it’s not looking so good there. I guess they are having trouble coming up with enough evidence. Unfortunately, the dems may manage to steal it for good.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          “the dems may manage to steal it for good.”

          If there was any legitimate fraud on a large enough scale it would have been found. Most of the judges throwing cases out of court were appointed by Republicans and even Republican election officials have said there hasn’t been widespread fraud.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Everyone in gov’t went along with the “magic bullet” theory too. The smart ones lean toward where the wind is blowing.

    • 0 avatar
      Old_WRX

      SCE to AUX,

      “Coordination is the key ingredient that no conspiracy theorist [sic] wants to discuss.”

      In this case that doesn’t apply. The planning and who is behind it has been much discussed. The fact that the corporate owned MSM
      doesn’t discuss it tends, under the circumstances, to lend more credence to the claims of those they label “conspiracy theorists” (a silly term if there ever was one) in re election fraud.

  • avatar
    ajla

    “I drive a gas car.”

    Also this guy seriously can’t even swing a used Leaf? The PR-shaming business must not be very lucrative.

  • avatar
    ToolGuy

    I don’t think we get there on renewables alone.

    I suspect nuclear is part of the long-term solution, but different nuclear (low-pressure, inherently-safe) than we have today.

    One possibility:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_fluoride_thorium_reactor

  • avatar
    Pig_Iron

    How Biden Could Use the Presidential Bully Pulpit to Drive Climate Action by Jamie Henn
    https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/president-biden-climate-action/

    • 0 avatar
      Lorenzo

      He hasn’t won yet. Federal judges are now asking questions, including Supreme Court Justice Alito, who has oversight of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals that includes Pennsylvania.

      The new Congress that meets January 4th has final say of acceptance of Electoral College votes, and could disallow enough votes to throw the Presidential election to the House of Reppresentatives.

      A problem with disallowing certification of multiple states’ votes bring into question the election of about a half dozen senators, and dozens of house members. But the Consitution gives each branch of Congress the power to determine its membership, so the next Congress has the last word on this election.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        2020 still has wacky bullsh!t in store.

        • 0 avatar
          Old_WRX

          28-Cars-Later

          This year sure has been special. I don’t ever remember such an overflowing sewer of idiocy as we’ve been privileged to witness this year. Such utter junk.

          • 0 avatar
            RHD

            IF you turn off the propaganda channel (Fox) and the one-sided AM talk radio, your blood pressure will begin to return to normal, and your understanding of what reality actually is will be greatly improved.
            Those that regurgitate what they’ve been told and hate those that they are told to hate (as if they even exist) are woefully gullible.
            306>232, no matter how much Trump kicks and cries and throws things, and his minions desperately and futilely try to prove otherwise.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            @RHD

            Oh please as if you have any insight as to what goes on behind the curtain.

          • 0 avatar
            brn

            RHD, they’re all propaganda channels. Don’t just pick on the one that leans to the right. The other mainstream channels are just as bad, but they have a different lean.

            We’re reached a point where far too many news stories are disguised opinion pieces. News is dead.

    • 0 avatar
      Old_WRX

      RHD,

      IF you turn off the propaganda channel”

      I don’t put much faith in FOX. Yes, they are better than things like CNN or the NYT, but they still aren’t anything like completely on the up and up. AM radio? Haven’t listened to AM in ages. Anyone who wants to have the slightest clue about what is going on in the world really has to kick the MSM dreck. I mean what would you expect from media owned by the big corporations?

  • avatar
    tekamul

    “Having owned a first-generation Honda Insight hybrid EV, it didn’t get anywhere near the MPGs advertised, and going uphill especially in inclement weather was always an adventure.”
    Referencing a hybrid designed in the 90s seems very relevant when discussing something changing as rapidly as electrified transportation. There are more than a few eyebrow raisers in here, including
    “Those batteries, by the way, are good for about eight years” That’s the warranty, not the expected life. My TV’s warranty is 6 months, does that end its useful life?
    Life expectancy is highly dependent on use and care, and age has little impact on it. Number of complete charge cycles and the way it’s charged/discharged and stored are the largest factors.

    You bemoan the downward pressure on investment in energy R&D. This is one of many means of pressuring the pillars of the energy sector like Exxon Mobile, the firms most capable, into investing in energy R&D.

  • avatar
    lstanley

    “I drive a gas car. I rent an apartment that is heated by gas. I get on airplanes. I do my best to lower my carbon footprint, but ultimately we don’t have the power as individuals to live a fossil-free lifestyle.”

    You first, gas monkey.

    I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people that tell me it’s a crisis behave like it’s a crisis.

  • avatar
    mcs

    ” although a Tesla S can go 250 miles”

    Try 400 miles with the current long range version. You can order one on the web page with 520 miles, but you won’t see it for a while.

    “as electric vehicles are 20-30 percent heavier due to the use of multiple batteries to provide the same power output as comparable ICE cars.”

    A BMW 330xi weighs 3627 lbs. A Model 3 Long Range weighs 4031 lbs. A 404 lb difference. That’s about 11 to 12% heavier. A Model S Performance is 4941 lbs. A Hellcat Charger SRT is 4586. Thats 355 lbs difference. Maybe 8% difference. The next generation of batteries (300 Wh/kg and better) will probably wipe out the weight difference. Those batteries are in testing on the road now and the manufacturing facilities are being built, so they’re definitely going to be available in the near future.

    If I had time, I could pick this apart even further.

    • 0 avatar
      mcs

      “Those batteries, by the way, are good for about eight years, and the replacement cost is anywhere from $1,000 – $6,000, which usually occurs after the warranty on the batteries runs out. ”

      With the latest batteries from Tesla, you should get a lot more life than that, Probably even outlast the car. Just because the warranty is only for 8 years or 120k miles doesn’t mean the battery will need replacement when it’s up. As far as the replacement price goes, it’s got to be higher than $6k. Even with lower battery prices.

      • 0 avatar
        SCE to AUX

        Many critics speak of “the cost of battery replacement”, but I’ve read of very few people who actually do it.

        Leading candidates:

        1. Early Leafs: factory replacements with the ‘lizard’ battery, or 2nd-hand buyers who want to renew the range on their cheap ride.

        2. Random warranty replacements on Teslas, Bolts, and Leafs where a cell went bad or things just went awry.

        Perhaps the high replacement cost is a self-fulfilling prophesy, such that nobody wants to spend the money, but it also seems like people simply live with whatever degradation their battery gives them.

        Personally, I don’t trust a previous owner to properly care for their EV battery, so I’d prefer to buy new until the newer chemistries are proven to withstand more abuse.

  • avatar
    ThomasSchiffer

    These radical environmentalists are getting on my nerves.

    Here in Merkel Germany (a terrible place) they are protesting the expansion of Autobahn construction by blocking several popular routes and in the process causing massive traffic jams and stop-and-go traffic, which surely must be wonderful for the environment.

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