By on August 11, 2020

2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk gauges

Frankly, who isn’t thinking about size? We could all use some more.

We’re talking about generous passenger and cargo volume, right? Surely. In that area, Jeep suggests it has your future size needs covered.

Oh, what could Jeep be referring to here? Hmmm. While there exists two potential explanations for this tweet, the more likely of the two is the Grand Wagoneer scheduled for production in the second quarter of 2021, rather than the next-generation Grand Cherokee slated for a Q3 2021 build.

It looks like a product reveal, or at least the reveal of a timeline for that reveal, is imminent. And about time! The returning Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer are products Jeep really should have had on the market by now, if the popularity of other full-size domestic SUVs tell us anything.

When it appears, the duo will battle General Motors’s new-for-2021 full-sizers, as well as Ford’s Expedition and Lincoln’s flagship Navigator. There’s a lot of volume in that segment, and profit, too, if Jeep plays its product cards right. The current-generation Ram 1500 that underpins these future models is a good point to start from.

If the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer prove too hulking for a consumer’s tastes, Jeep plans to start production of a three-row, Grand Cherokee-based model in the first quarter of 2021, too. The name of that product remains an unknown.

Normally, an automaker going extra-heavy in a certain size class could be accused of being reckless, but Jeep already has the lower triers of driving well covered. With these products, it’s just covering the bases, plugging any white space it can find in its portfolio.

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23 Comments on “Jeep Want You to Think About Size...”


  • avatar
    Lie2me

    It’s a market Jeep has ignored for too long. I’m sure they’ll do well, if we ever get to see them :(

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    A new Grand Wagoneer just makes me wish I could afford one of the resto-modded ones.

    There will always be more presence and character in one of the classic ones than anything Jeep could spit out now.

    • 0 avatar
      Lie2me

      Have you ever driven one? They’re not as lovely as they look :(

      • 0 avatar
        PrincipalDan

        I just want TBI for the old 360 V8 and a Gear Vendors overdrive for the three speed. Add real wood to the interior and that leather cloth combo the high end models had.

        I’ll cruise around town, open the window a bit and smoke a cigar.

      • 0 avatar
        Old_WRX

        Never drove a wagoneer, but I did drive a ~1970 Jeepster Commando hardtop. It wasn’t, er, uh, luxurious, but it felt like nothing could stop it (or maybe that was just those drum brakes..).

    • 0 avatar
      Garrett

      Ford knocked it out of the park with the Bronco, to the point where I would rather have the new one.

    • 0 avatar
      el scotto

      @ Principal Dan There are former sorority women of a certain age group who would commit immoral physical acts to own a resto-modded Grand Wagoneer. Even more than a restored Land Rover. En vino veritus.

    • 0 avatar
      teddyc73

      “resto-modded”? Just so you are aware, that’s not a real word. ;)

      • 0 avatar
        Lie2me

        “Resto-modification, also known as resto-modding, is when “you take an old car and modernize it with an updated engine, suspension, brakes, tires and[/or] electronics.

        An example of resto-modding is a 1970 Ford Torino Brougham 429 Cobra Jet owned and **resto-modded** by Kevin Young, published by Car Craft magazine.”

        -Wikipedia

  • avatar
    Vulpine

    Jeep needs to bring the original CJ back. The Roxor proved there’s a demand for a true, SMALL, off-road Jeep.

  • avatar
    Imagefont

    The old Grand Wagoneer wasn’t as large as something like a suburban, and that was a good thing. It did have big block engines and a lot of mass.
    They’ll screw it up. It will have massive touch screens littered with information you don’t give a damn about. What it needs is a bench front seat with plaid upholstery, minimal gauges and 5 miles of wood trim inside and out and all the way down both sides. That and very boxy proportions, as vertical a windshield as possible and zero concessions to aerodynamics.
    That would sell.

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    When I see Jeep Wrangler owners in their fully dressed angry eyed trucks navigating not much more than a speed bump at the mall I guess they can only think about size.

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      Those angry eye kits make me laugh.

      Wife got her oil changed in her GMC at the dealer yesterday. A little bit of surprise that one of the employees (despite any GM discounts they might get) was driving a brand new 4-door Jeep Wrangler Willys edition. I’ve built one online and that package as a 2 door manual would be pretty capable and fun. No need to mess with the styling or the ground clearance.

      • 0 avatar
        MRF 95 T-Bird

        When it comes to the Wrangler the base Sport, Willys trim or Sahara in 2 door is all you need. The Rubicon seems excessive because it’s geared for off roaring or if you live off of the beaten track.
        I see so many 4 doors around driven by folks who would have made do with an XJ a couple of decades ago. It’s like an arms race or the militarization of the police over the years. “It’s got to be more tactical”.

    • 0 avatar
      teddyc73

      YOu do realize these people use their Jeeps for more than just off road use. Unless you see them 24 hours a day how do you know they never go off road?

  • avatar
    BC

    Seems like they are going to purposely mess up the grand Cherokee. It’s either going to be shrunk and/or made soccer mom safe. FCA knows how to sell masculinity and they won’t let you have it for $45k if you’re willing to pay $60k+.

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