Rare Rides: The Unfortunate 1998 Infiniti Q45

Corey Lewis
by Corey Lewis

We’ve spilled a lot of digital ink on Infiniti lately, primarily due to the grim announcement that the brand will become “Nissan-plus” in the coming years. While the brand produced a few bright spots like the G35 and FX over its 30-year history, most of its products were duds.

That got me thinking about one such dud product, and one that happened to appear for sale right as I was pondering. It’s the 1998 Q45, a disappointing flagship.

Infiniti launched its flagship Q45 at the same time as Lexus’ LS 400. But where Lexus spent years copying Mercedes-Benz ideas and creating a car designed to appeal specifically to the North American consumer, Infiniti took a different tack. It spent much, much less money, presenting a short-wheelbase version of its new Japanese market flagship, the President. The unconventional nature of the first-gen Q45 and its accompanying abstract marketing campaign didn’t go over well with American consumers. We won’t go into the first Q45 too far today, because it’s worth its own Rare Rides entry.

The President, as a traditional Japanese luxury sedan, enjoyed a very long model life. It remained in its basic 1990 guise until 2002, so in the mid-Nineties, when it was time for a new Q45, Infiniti had to reach lower. When the second-generation debuted in 1997, Infiniti clearly exercised much more caution, but still hadn’t spent a lot of money on its most expensive car.

The basis of the new ride was in Nissan’s Cedric/Gloria platform. Using the cheaper executive class car (instead of full-size), Nissan created a new sedan in Japan called the Cima, which was again very lightly reworked for North American duty as Q45. The car’s initial nomenclature reflected the large 4.5-liter V8 under hood. But naming remained unchanged for the second generation, even though displacement shrunk to 4.1 liters. Horsepower dropped from 276 to 266; 60 miles per hour arrived in 7.5 seconds.

All the expected luxury car trappings were present this time: copious ruched leather, wood trim, and a Bose sound system. A single CD was offered as standard, and optionally a multi-disc changer was installed in the trunk. Heated seats were also an optional extra. Focused on comfort (just like Lexus), Infiniti ditched the previous front multi-link suspension for struts, then made everything as soft as possible. Auto journos of the era took no pleasure in this Buick-like Q45, which disappointed after the taut, sporty-handling original Q45. But Infiniti stuck with its choice.

Changes over the years were mostly limited to a 1999 refresh. Changes included HiD lamps up front and smaller brake lamps at the back, which somehow made it look older than before. Optional throughout was a “t” sporty trim that added a spoiler and an optional adjustable suspension (standard on t from 1999).

The second-generation Q45 persisted through 2001, replaced by a new President-based Q45 in 2002. You’ll remember that one because it looked just like a large Altima. Perhaps a better description might be Nissan-plus?

Today’s 1998 Q45 is in spectacular condition in black and tan. With 57,000 miles, it’s about as new as they come and asks $8,950 on eBay.

[Images: seller]

Corey Lewis
Corey Lewis

Interested in lots of cars and their various historical contexts. Started writing articles for TTAC in late 2016, when my first posts were QOTDs. From there I started a few new series like Rare Rides, Buy/Drive/Burn, Abandoned History, and most recently Rare Rides Icons. Operating from a home base in Cincinnati, Ohio, a relative auto journalist dead zone. Many of my articles are prompted by something I'll see on social media that sparks my interest and causes me to research. Finding articles and information from the early days of the internet and beyond that covers the little details lost to time: trim packages, color and wheel choices, interior fabrics. Beyond those, I'm fascinated by automotive industry experiments, both failures and successes. Lately I've taken an interest in AI, and generating "what if" type images for car models long dead. Reincarnating a modern Toyota Paseo, Lincoln Mark IX, or Isuzu Trooper through a text prompt is fun. Fun to post them on Twitter too, and watch people overreact. To that end, the social media I use most is Twitter, @CoreyLewis86. I also contribute pieces for Forbes Wheels and Forbes Home.

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  • Bd2 Bd2 on Jun 07, 2020

    While much has been made of the current state of Infiniti (much less Nissan), things were already bad for Infiniti/Nissan sedans when Nissan let Mitsu sell the Fuga and Cima, but rebadged as the Mitsu Proudia and Dignity in Japan from 2012-16.

  • Ksilvers Ksilvers on May 12, 2022

    I think Infiniti gets a lot of unfair criticism. I've always felt they made engaging cars that were a good value. I've always preferred them over other Japanese luxury marquees like Acura or Lexus. I have a G35 currently and it is a really awesome car despite being 15 years old. I've owned quite a few cars and I'm really surprised by how much I like the Infiniti. For it's age it is very reliable and basically doesn't really require anything ever beyond basic maintenance whereas German cars are constantly falling apart unless they are newer. Lexus is boring, Acura is meh. Infiniti is where it's at but the future looks uncertain and it seems unlikely they can recreate the 'magic' of the G35 era.

  • Redapple2 Love the wheels
  • Redapple2 Good luck to them. They used to make great cars. 510. 240Z, Sentra SE-R. Maxima. Frontier.
  • Joe65688619 Under Ghosn they went through the same short-term bottom-line thinking that GM did in the 80s/90s, and they have not recovered say, to their heyday in the 50s and 60s in terms of market share and innovation. Poor design decisions (a CVT in their front-wheel drive "4-Door Sports Car", model overlap in a poorly performing segment (they never needed the Altima AND the Maxima...what they needed was one vehicle with different drivetrain, including hybrid, to compete with the Accord/Camry, and decontenting their vehicles: My 2012 QX56 (I know, not a Nissan, but the same holds for the Armada) had power rear windows in the cargo area that could vent, a glass hatch on the back door that could be opened separate from the whole liftgate (in such a tall vehicle, kinda essential if you have it in a garage and want to load the trunk without having to open the garage door to make room for the lift gate), a nice driver's side folding armrest, and a few other quality-of-life details absent from my 2018 QX80. In a competitive market this attention to detai is can be the differentiator that sell cars. Now they are caught in the middle of the market, competing more with Hyundai and Kia and selling discounted vehicles near the same price points, but losing money on them. They invested also invested a lot in niche platforms. The Leaf was one of the first full EVs, but never really evolved. They misjudged the market - luxury EVs are selling, small budget models not so much. Variable compression engines offering little in terms of real-world power or tech, let a lot of complexity that is leading to higher failure rates. Aside from the Z and GT-R (low volume models), not much forced induction (whether your a fan or not, look at what Honda did with the CR-V and Acura RDX - same chassis, slap a turbo on it, make it nicer inside, and now you can sell it as a semi-premium brand with higher markup). That said, I do believe they retain the technical and engineering capability to do far better. About time management realized they need to make smarter investments and understand their markets better.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Off-road fluff on vehicles that should not be off road needs to die.
  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X Saw this posted on social media; “Just bought a 2023 Tundra with the 14" screen. Let my son borrow it for the afternoon, he connected his phone to listen to his iTunes.The next day my insurance company raised my rates and added my son to my policy. The email said that a private company showed that my son drove the vehicle. He already had his own vehicle that he was insuring.My insurance company demanded he give all his insurance info and some private info for proof. He declined for privacy reasons and my insurance cancelled my policy.These new vehicles with their tech are on condition that we give up our privacy to enter their world. It's not worth it people.”
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