By on April 30, 2020

While we’ve often criticized Tesla Motors’ “Full Self Driving” (FSD) suite for being a $7,000 promise that failed to deliver, the automaker is making moves that might someday force us to eat our words.

Tesla is now releasing a new software update that includes the ability to automatically recognize and slow down for stop signs and traffic lights. CEO Elon Musk mentioned the development in Wednesday’s earnings call, referencing the system as “Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control” that builds on display options added months prior. 

“Regarding Autopilot, we released a new software update for traffic lights and stop signs to early access users in March and to all U.S. customers with full self-driving package just last week. Our cars will now automatically stop at each stop sign or traffic light until the driver gets a confirmation to proceed,” Musk said. “I should say that the car is actually capable of much more than this, but we are only exposing functionality that we feel quite good about and where we feel it’s probably a safety improvement.”

While he did not expand on those other features, they’re likely related to the often criticized but highly ambitious FSD suite. However, the updates discussed are still being refined. Now that manufacturers can issue over-the-air updates to connected vehicles, they can make changes on the fly — adding or pulling features without the driver’s knowledge. While this opens up new doors for auto brands, we’ve seen Tesla make moves that leave us questioning whether or not cars are evolving in a manner that truly benefits consumers. The company has been caught removing content from vehicles on the secondhand market; for years, it’s been barked at for beta testing new features on existing customers.

It sounds like Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control also falls into the latter camp. However, it’s allowing the manufacturer to keep its promises, so you can’t knock it entirely. Adding content to a vehicle years after it was purchased is still kind of magical… at least conceptually.

As things stand, software update 2020.12.6 sees the car warn you of an impending intersection before it attempts to stop for it. This can be overridden by slapping the gear selector downward or blipping the throttle. Having no model with which to test this at present, we were forced to wait for feedback from Tesla owners living with the new system. Thus far, reactions are mixed.

While Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control (which has to be enabled for your driving profile) seems adept at identifying where intersections are located, it apparently will try and slow itself even when you’re facing a green light. It seems to have issues when crossing divided highways or railroads, as well — occasionally ignoring the first intersection you encounter if the second is near enough. Sensors will also occasionally pick up false readings for parallel crossroads where lights are angled partially in your direction, causing a surprise stop.

This makes the system seem like a handful, especially since it requires you take additional action not to stop at every intersection. On busy-enough roads, this would require a driver to constantly work against the system while attempting to drive normally. It could prove handy on long boulevards, though this author doubts he’d ever use it for any reason beyond briefly satisfying his own curiosity.

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16 Comments on “Tesla Update Adds Automatic Braking for Controlled Intersections, Results Vary...”


  • avatar
    Imagefont

    So it’s “probably safe”. Wow, that’s a whole hearted endorsement. Just what you want to hear from your doctor before you go under. “This will probably work. Moat of the time. Maybe. With any luck.”
    Full Self Delusion – Mission Accomplished!!!

  • avatar
    Kendahl

    Another completely autonomous system that kinda, sorta works most of the time. I’ll pass on it in the sense of squatting with my pants down.

  • avatar
    JimZ

    “While Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control (which has to be enabled for your driving profile) seems adept at identifying where intersections are located, it apparently will try and slow itself even when you’re facing a green light.”

    And Elon’s stans hail this as a wonderful amazing thing that they’re proud to be part of.

  • avatar
    conundrum

    Having some techno-dork change the way my car works for me overnight, is not a redeeming feature. It’s a goddammed nuisance that may upset my conditioned reflexes. Unsafe. Releasing half-baked cars with half-baked features mirrors the half-baked software industry. Half-baked patches then are applied to the half-baked original piling half-baked solutions on top of one another until the loaf of bread one thought they had purchased turns out to be a giant fruit cake.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    This feature doesn’t get Tesla drivers any closer to FSD if the driver may still have to intervene.

  • avatar
    Imagefont

    With accurate and continuously updated road maps the car should know where every stop sign and traffic light is located without having to “see” it. But maps are made by humans and humans make mistakes so the car needs to be able to see and confirm the actual light or sign. And how many years of empty promises they roll out a half baked system that works some of the time. And I’ll bet they recognize some more FSD revenue for this turd not an update.
    Works some of the time = doesn’t work at all.

  • avatar
    civicjohn

    Gotta feed the folks who paid $7K for a pipe dream.

  • avatar
    dal20402

    “Full Self-Driving” is fraud and the fact that Elon has not been prosecuted for it is a very good example of how we exempt the ultra-rich from the law.

    • 0 avatar
      Art Vandelay

      I think given how it is worded he is OK from a legal perspective. Still, I can’t imagine actually paying for this. If he gets it right and I have to have it I’ll just trade up when it is time. 7 Grand for something that may not come in the time I want to keep the car is idiotic…or genius I suppose if you are Tesla and can get people to write the check.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      I believe this will be resolved via class-action lawsuit.

      Some of the crazies foolish enough to pop $7k for a feature they can’t use (and can’t resell… another legal problem), will eventually wake up and demand to see the FSD product or get their money back.

      • 0 avatar
        mcs

        @SCE: Even electrek is saying FSD isn’t worth the money they are asking. I’m going to skip it too. I’d rather use the money for aftermarket upgrades. An aftermarket carbon-ceramic front big brake kit is $7,995.00. That’s FSD + paint-other-than-white. I’d rather have the brakes. You do get some features with FSD now, but to me it’s not worth it.

  • avatar
    ToolGuy

    “the car is actually capable of much more than this”

    Pretty sure that Ford has had a vastly more capable system ready to go for the F-series for several (more like 12) years now. Just waiting to flick the switch.

    • 0 avatar

      I’m sure Ford, GM, Toyota, Ze Chermans, etc have working systems. They just know not to release them, because when someone gets in the car, drunk, in a blizzard, and hits “go home” and the car kills them and some innocent party, THEY will get the massive lawsuits. Also, the majors know that the worst case scenario will occur, probably every day.

      Tesla is taking a huge risk here. I wonder how many FSD lawsuits are out there ?

  • avatar
    sirwired

    Huh; I thought His Muskiness promised us that his customers would be renting out their rides as JohhnyCabs by the end of the year!

    Somehow I don’t see a feature that kinda-sorta knows to come to a stop at stop-signs and red lights (sometimes) *quite* gets us to that point.

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