By on April 14, 2020

Each one of us, minus the psychopaths, lives by a personal code, and that set of deeply held beliefs and attitudes dictates how we treat others. How we interact in society. It makes us whole.

Given that there’s a hell of a lot of variation in what drives a person, there’s been no shortage of diverging takes on the latest Cannonball Run “trophy” holder — the crew of a white, 2019 Audi A8 that rocketed from New York City to Los Angeles in 26 hours and 38 minutes earlier this month, using lightly trafficked highways borne of the coronavirus pandemic to their advantage. Average speed? Roughly 105 mph.

Is this feat worthy of a slap on the back, or a punch in the face?

Those are the bookends; your take on the issue likely falls somewhere in the murky middle.

If you’ve been around here a while, you’ve probably gathered that we’re a fairly freedom-loving bunch, though our personal credos generally stop short of undue selfishness. Indeed, a society is just a collection of individuals and, while individualism should be respected and nurtured, that doesn’t leave consideration of others as a non-issue. It’s a hazy line to walk, as there’s an infinite number of scenarios where not doing what you love could, in some way, be better for society. Your entire daily routine, from your choice of breakfast food, type and location of dwelling, commuting method, and everything else that makes up a life could be seen by others as harmful in some way.

Yours truly, at least, does not want to be told to “stop that, and live like me” any more than the other person would like to be told the same thing. We know that personal car ownership is under threat. The people who loathe them the most have probably never visited the furthest-flung, most wide-open and unpopulated corners of the continent, and are thus unable to see personal vehicles as a freedom machine. As a tool for personal autonomy, rather than something to automate the soul out of.

And so, to someone like this, to someone like me, the idea of taking advantage of sparse road traffic to seal a new Cannonball Run record, flying stealthily under the radar (guns) of local and state law enforcement all the way, holds considerable appeal. It’s romantic. It stirs the soul. And it’s dangerous. While the Audi’s pilots were no doubt capable of handling high speeds in a German luxury car, and certainly capable of scanning the interstate for lane hogs and signal-shunning mergers, the potential threat to public safety doesn’t disappear. Circumstances arise in a hurry. Unlikely scenarios crop up. Human error is ever-present. And in a pandemic, even with minimal interaction with other humans and a trunk jammed full of auxiliary fuel capacity, it’s far, far more antisocial than before.

I’d say unforgivably so. Just look where the Audi set out from: the viral epicenter of the country, New York City, currently home to more than 10,000 coronavirus deaths. Along the way, the A8 traveled through all manner of socioeconomic diversity (and health capacity) on its way to a state that’s had considerable success in limiting the virus’ spread. Just how mindful was the team in regards to precautionary measures? Who touched what, then drove off?

It’s one thing to take chances on the road. The damage potential is limited, though far from insignificant. It’s another thing to threaten untold numbers of people with a pathogen.

What’s your take on the latest Cannonball Run champions? Heroes, or zeroes?

[Image: Audi]

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74 Comments on “QOTD: Missing Morality?...”


  • avatar
    Gardiner Westbound

    It’s all about me.

  • avatar
    Lie2me

    If you were to Tweet this I’m sure the blow-back would be tremendous, but I think you’re speaking to the choir here when you talk of fast, exotic, German sedans, the open road and a touch of fairly innocent law-breaking

    Outside of excessive speed what dangers to society did these isolated drivers in a sealed car pose? Except for the occasional pit stop I doubt they encountered more people in the entire run they a single trip to Walmart does for the rest of us

    I say, let ’em run, because there’s no fun left in the world anymore :(

    • 0 avatar

      Agree with Lie2Me: to accomplish the feat, the risk from a health point of view was minimal. They spent more time inside the vehicle, and an extremely (relatively) small amount of time outside – let alone interacting with any of the general populace.

      • 0 avatar
        jack4x

        The real issue I think is poorly framed/overlooked in the original question.

        I’d be much more concerned they would hit someone else at 100+ mph, leading to injuries to themselves or others that may or may not be treatable in an overcrowded hospital. Dispatching an ambulance to BFE to rescue attention seekers or worse, innocent bystanders, would also make that vehicle unavailable to assist others who may need it now.

        • 0 avatar
          Detroit-Iron

          Not excusing what they did b/c I think it was everything from unsporting to irresponsible or worse, but with the exception of New York the hospitals are not over crowded at all. To the contrary, hospitals are cutting pay and furloughing staff because not enough people are getting hurt and you can’t get an elective surgery right now.

  • avatar
    Hogey74

    Well said. In my 20s I did a bunch of dangerous things that I simply wouldn’t do now. It means I know what I am capable of and that is awesome, but shit could have gone pretty badly too. Now the world is more crowded and there are more poorly trained people living with more rules and hence less common sense. The more you are told what to do, the less you learn for yourself. So yeah. Thanks America – you’ve taught the world to bring out a new law for every idiot. One of your worst exports, right up there with corporate polarization of politics and Donald Trump.

    But this was too dangerous. It excites me but I would only do something like that for a seriously important reason – if it had to happen to save many lives.

  • avatar
    S197GT

    i suspect that the amount of technology and resources that these competitors bring (i heard spotter planes is a possibility) they are actually quite safe. and, if you are going to do it at all, what safer time than now?

    but with such abnormally empty roads, does it really count?

    short of another pandemic, country-wide disaster, or technological advancement that makes road vehicles moot (thus reducing their #s), how will anyone ever beat these times?

    these strange days might actually bring the end of the cannonball.

  • avatar
    JimZ

    the best thing you can do is not give these people the attention they crave, then the problem will fix itself. No need for yelling at clouds.

  • avatar
    JMII

    They weren’t driving around sneezing on things. In the grand scheme this was nothing more then extended joy ride. There are parts of the country where you could do 100+ MPH for hours with very little risk to others.

    Have you ever left a stadium after a big game? Or headed home after a concert? Remember those group events we did before COVID-19? The number of drunk fools speeding off puts way more people at risk then 3 dudes driving from NY to CA in an Audi with a large fuel tank.

    I still don’t think they should be doing this because all it does is encourage others to try it, but its a drop in a bucket given the crimes I’ve seen on the road: missing lug nuts, trucks with unsecured loads, people on their phones, crotch rockets popping wheelies, people with dogs in their lap, children with no car seats, bald tires, broken tail lights, cracked windshields… the list goes on.

    • 0 avatar
      redapple

      JMII

      ^THIS^

      • 0 avatar
        golden2husky

        Well said. I have a photo of a car driving 50 in rush hour traffic with no tire on the rear rim. I had to take a photo of it because nobody would believe it otherwise. (Guilty as charged using a camera while moving).

        • 0 avatar
          JimC2

          @golden2husky, I would absolutely believe you with or without your photo.

          I have a photo of a car missing tires on both rear rims. On the other hand it was getting towed (the front wheels both had tires but they were on the dolly… what the heck?!) but yep, two wheels with no tires, just dragging along, the rear bumper and fuel tank just inches above the surface.

          The worst part of it all? It was raining out, which meant two things: the photo quality turned out pretty bad, and the rain kept the sparks down from those bare rims rolling/dragging down the road. Yes, I was hoping that the spark shower would ignite this person’s gas tank. Then I would have got some wicked awesome photos!

          I’ve also seen an 18 wheeler, with 17 tires, hauling butt in the rain one night. The steel cords and the remnants of that one tire were making quite a spark show that I could see from about a mile back. Sorry, no photographic record of this one but I tried. I’ve also seen what happens when the aft truck detaches from a 53′ semi-trailer (truck as in the eight-wheel roller-skate thing under the back end). Again, I failed to get a photo. I still regret that.

          Getting off topic a bit more- my favorite feature of Motorola cellphones is how you can turn on the camera quickly by shaking the phone in a certain way (hold it normally and twist your hand back and forth a couple times). This is really great for documenting highway mayhem. I know the iPhones and other brands have their own shortcuts. I just really like the button-free shortcut on the Motos.

          Boys and girls, should we *really* be so worried about that German sedan in question??

    • 0 avatar
      JimC2

      Makes me wonder which one of these things is truly in the public’s best interest?

      Arbitrary speed limit out in BFE on a long, straight stretch of road, let’s say 80mph as a good example. A Cannonballer comes ripping along at 120mph on some random Thursday. A jalopy heads down the same stretch at 80mph on a Friday (the vehicles JMII describes). Both stop for gas in a locale where it is now mandatory to wear a bank robber bandana (which has a demonstrated effectiveness of 2% in stopping the spread of COVID) or you’ll get a citation and a fine.

      There are a lot of Karens coming out of the woodwork these past few weeks. Go back to your HOA meetings and stay there, all you Karens.

      Yeah, yeah, “whatabout” arguments don’t make anything okay, two wrongs don’t make a right…

      • 0 avatar
        Art Vandelay

        The arbitrary speed limit generates revenue which allows the government to hire more cops…to generate more revenue…to hire more cops…to generate more revenue…to get said cops fancy toys and armored personnel carriers…to keep you safe in case you decide you want to exercise a right…like leaving your house. Wait a minute, this doesn’t seem right….oh look…1200 bucks. What was I talking about?

  • avatar
    tomLU86

    So, what’s with the hedging?

    Either they are heroes or zeroes.

    If you have an issue with them because they “threaten untold numbers of people with a pathogen”, then come out and advocate banning all air travel from NYC. All bus travel. I haven’t seen that.

    Where’s the outrage at any one flying from NYC? In a confined space (granted the planes are half full, but still…)

    The roads were probably as empty as they will ever be. As such, this was THE OPPORTUNITY of a lifetime to drive across country as quickly as possible.

    As long as the drivers were not reckless, and I suspect they were not, good for them, they are HEROES in my book!

    And the extra fuel they used helped out gas stations along the way.

    Give us a link so we can read more about them.

  • avatar
    ScarecrowRepair

    Neither heroes nor zeroes. I applaud their taking advantage of prevailing conditions to set a record slightly ahead of its time that will remain longer than most, but that’s it. Clever, good planning, good execution.

    No more heroes than any sportsball star or Hollywood celebrity. No more zeroes than any other rich dudes.

    Parents who sacrifice their lifestyle to raise good kids, there are your everyday heroes. Especially single parents, and especially single moms, even more so.

    • 0 avatar
      Lou_BC

      I fully agree. They are definitely not heroes. Health Care workers caring for COVID-19 patients with inadequate PPE are heroes.
      Zeroes? Again no. They accomplished something risky for bragging rights in a very small circle of people. Foolish maybe, but not zeroes. Zeroes don’t accomplish anything.

  • avatar
    thelaine

    The real hero is that sweet Audi.

  • avatar
    Steve Biro

    Oh, lighten up, hand-wringers. And make sure to “buckle up for safety” when you climb into bed tonight. Gad, we’ve become so frightened and joyless.

  • avatar
    imnormlurnot

    Two wrongs don’t make a right.
    Three lefts will.

    They should have made it a round trip.

  • avatar
    ToolGuy

    “we’re a fairly freedom-loving bunch”

    Let’s see:
    • I’ve got military aircraft (rotary wing) doing close fly-bys of my home on a regular basis (for the past several years)
    • The federal government has absolute power and the commander in chief has total authority (as announced yesterday)
    • I’m (currently) living on government checks, with the ‘funds’ issued by a private banking cartel
    • The surveillance state knows everywhere I go (and everything I type)
    • My Senators stopped returning my calls a long time ago

    If there are any punches to the face to be handed out, it’s going to be James Madison, punching me.

    • 0 avatar
      JimZ

      ” The federal government has absolute power and the commander in chief has total authority (as announced yesterday)”

      but he doesn’t take responsibility at all.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        I missed yesterday’s episode but he’s probably right as the original FEMA laws were designed for the aftermath of nuclear war.

        “but he doesn’t take responsibility at all.”

        That’s right, it was his’, Pence’s, Cuomo’s, Newsome’s and whomever else’s fault a Chinese bioweapon was released in Wuhan and the ***Chinese Communist Party*** did not immediately stop all international flights and allowed it to escape.

        Trump’s got issues, this is not news. Gov Cuomo looks like a scared boy in some press conferences and says some really negative things he probably shouldn’t. Gov Newsome actually really impressed me yesterday with his press conference and stance, but most of the other governors have not been impressive. Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt on this one, something like this has not happened since 1918 and its never happened in the way/speed it is unfolding now. Nothing these people could have done would have ultimately stopped this once the Chinese failed to contain it in Wuhan. This was going global and would eventually get in either through international travel or something more malicious like terrorism.

    • 0 avatar
      ToolGuy

      • My travel papers are not in order.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt.

    My 1980 self would applaud this; my 2020 self thinks putting others at risk for such a feat is stupid and immoral. And I’m not talking about the CV.

    But I am impressed with the Audi.

  • avatar
    cprescott

    Just like the New England cheaters – every Snoopy Bowl win should have an asterisk. While this may have been a legal ploy, it is unsavory given the context in which it was done.

  • avatar
    Kendahl

    Cooped up in a car except for fuel stops, these guys were a lower risk for transmitting the corona virus than a family on a shopping trip to Walmart. The biggest risk would be inside the truck stop to use the rest rooms.

    Risk for a crash would depend on how they managed speeds. I doubt they set the cruise on their target speed and let ‘er rip. We now live in Arizona 60 miles south of Interstate 40. It was pretty busy last summer. I don’t know what it’s like now that the country has mostly shut down. I suspect nearly all of the traffic is trucks. Last summer, we drove Interstate 25 three times both ways between Trinidad, Colorado and Albuquerque. Even back then, until you got close to Albuquerque, the highway was virtually empty.

    If the Cannonball drivers set themselves a hard rule not to pass slower traffic with a speed differential of more than 10 or 15 mph and saved the really high speeds for in between, I don’t see this as particularly dangerous. Thirteen years ago, when I was shopping for my automotive retirement present to myself, I spent time on a Porsche forum. One guy talked about averaging 160 mph in his Cayman S for a long distance on a deserted highway in western Nevada.

  • avatar
    whynotaztec

    Sure it is great and harmless, and I am sure the risk to their own lives was zero because they are supremely skilled drivers. But it seems like many times, when these things go wrong, an innocent bystander is the one to die. As long as we are all ok with that, then have at it.

  • avatar
    Flipper35

    Unless they used gloves, paid at the pump, took all their own meals along and peed on the side of the road they were probably fairly safe as far as spreading anything. I doubt they did.

    As stated above, had they had a blowout or other issue causing a wreck they put paramedics and other emergency services in a worse position they are already in.

  • avatar
    dal20402

    The attitudes displayed in this thread are why cars are the leading cause of death for non-elderly people in the U.S. (yes, more than guns).

    It baffles me that people are just fine with a dozen 9/11s of roadway carnage every year, even though that level is high enough that virtually everybody has had a close relative or friend killed in a car crash. It’s not unavoidable with cars. There are countries with roadway fatality rates that are a small fraction of ours.

    These guys are “harmless” right until one of them looks down at the instrumentation for a split-second at the same time a texting minivan driver blunders slightly over the lane line.

    Throw them in jail.

    • 0 avatar
      JimC2

      “at the same time a texting minivan driver blunders slightly over the lane line.”

      That would be the texting minivan driver’s fault and the guy in the Audi would be the victim. Why are you victim blaming?

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        Because if the guy in the Audi were not doing 150 mph he would have plenty of time to react.

        Drive commercial for a while. You’ll realize that “fault” as applied to car crashes is stupid, and that the real question is whether you could have prevented the crash. Lots of crashes are preventable by both parties, and in those crashes both should be held accountable.

    • 0 avatar
      smartascii

      It’s not that I’m indifferent to traffic fatalities. It’s that I find it absurd that whenever it comes up, the primary (and often only) concern Americans seem to have other than drunk driving is speed. No issues with handing out licenses like candy on October 31st. No issues with inspections that only care about emissions but will otherwise pass a death trap made entirely of rust and duct tape. No worries about heavy, tall vehicles that are inherently worse at avoiding an accident than lighter, lower ones. No push to limit eating and drinking while driving. An embrace of ever-more-complex and distracting user interfaces in cars. But let someone in a car that’s tailor-made for it come anywhere near triple digits, and they’re basically the second coming of Charles Manson.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        The car may be “made for it” (although it doesn’t have crash protection that can handle it) but neither the road nor the other drivers are equipped for it.

        I’m not focused only on extreme speeding, but at the same time it generates fatalities and serious injuries a lot more easily and reliably than a lot of the other things you identify. If I wanted to reduce roadway fatalities, based on recorded causes of fatal crashes, here’s where my efforts would go, in priority order:

        1) Reduce intersection conflicts (red light cameras, harsh crosswalk enforcement, make intersection controls in rural areas a lot more conspicuous)
        2) Reduce impaired driving (both alcohol/drug impairment and distraction)
        3) Reduce extreme speeding
        4) Equipment enforcement

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          If someone were to document all of the problems with driving in the US, the list would include things like:

          – distracted drivers – eating, grooming, smoking, texting
          – impaired drivers due to drugs or alcohol
          – poor driver education
          – weak consequences for those who represent the highest risk

          Like many problems in the US, these can be addressed and fixed. And like many problems with Americans, we’d rather not change anything.

          I don’t care if these guys did the Run in record time. Much more good can come from addressing the low hanging fruit.

    • 0 avatar
      Jon

      Im confused. How exactly are the “attitudes displayed in this thread” directly responsible for “the leading cause of death for non-elderly people in the U.S”? Which attitudes? Whats the connection?

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        The attitude that behavior that dramatically increases the risk of a fatal or serious injury car crash is no big deal, or even to be celebrated.

        Since car crashes are indeed the leading cause of death for non-elderly people in the U.S., thinking that they are no big deal is a problem.

        • 0 avatar
          Jon

          I just fail to see how cannonball runs contribute to the leading cause of death etc… It seems that data points towards other leading causes.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            I didn’t say “cannonballl run” contributed, I said an attitude contributed. The majority of the posts in this thread take a “no big deal” position. The attitude that risk of serious car crashes is no big deal is why we have the fatality rate we do, rather than (say) the same rate as Norway, which has a tiny fraction of our fatality rate despite much worse weather.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          @dal20402 – injury or death does not register deeply on people if it happens to be common place or at least from a common place activity. Statistically only 3-5% of the populace would rank as a great driver but 99% of the public believes that they are the great drivers. Everyone feels safe in the plastic,metal, and glass conveyances they operate.

    • 0 avatar
      JimZ

      “It baffles me that people are just fine with a dozen 9/11s of roadway carnage every year, even though that level is high enough that virtually everybody has had a close relative or friend killed in a car crash.”

      You know what I’ve noticed? Nobody panics when things go “according to plan.” Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it’s all “part of the plan”. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds. Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I’m an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It’s fair!

    • 0 avatar
      DenverMike

      The general assumption is that they’re buzzing 55 MPH clumps of traffic at 105 MPH.

      If they’re slowing down to around 70 for such events, which I’m positive they are, it wouldn’t grossly affect their over all cannonball attempt/ET.

      That and all the moments they have to stop/refuel/etc, have to be made up in the open desert and other lonely straightaways.

      Yes they’re risk takers, but that doesn’t mean they’re pulling crazy stunts all along the way. Everything is measured, along with risk.

      Driving across the US, it does get very lonely in a lot of parts, for hundreds of mile at a time with occasional truckers around.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        I don’t believe they are driving as you describe. They would not have been able to average 105 mph across the whole trip driving like that. Freeways in the eastern more-than-half of the country are too busy. To average 105 mph with stops, you’d need to do a lot of high-speed-difference passing.

        • 0 avatar
          DenverMike

          So it’s wall to wall, heavy traffic for 1/2 the country? 24/7?

          You’re being silly. 105 mph average doesn’t mean they can’t slow to 25 mph (or whatever it calls for) hundreds of times and stuck in stop/go traffic at various points, with that average.

          It just means they have to drive far above 105 for every instance they don’t maintain 105, when conditions allow.
          That includes driver changes, breakdowns, refueling, etc.

          • 0 avatar
            burgersandbeer

            Anyone thinking you can avg 105mph without plenty of reckless passing should use their trip computer more.

            The low speeds bring down the average quickly. Someone might think they averaged 75mph on their last Boston to Chicago trip, but the computer probably says 60mph at best.

            I get that much of the West is more open, but the roads weren’t designed for it. I doubt there is enough good pavement with enough visibility to safely get the avg up to 105.

          • 0 avatar
            JimC2

            @burgersandbeer, I respectfully disagree with your estimates. In the late 1990s and early 2000s, I made several road trips of about 1000-1500 miles (door to door distance using MapQuest). If I drove throughout the night, for example 6pm departure through noon the next day or even 6am departure through midnight the same day, setting the cruise control to 7mph over the posted limit I could average 70mph or slightly better (like 71 or 72). That’s with two fuel stops and one or two dedicated bathroom breaks, hustling outside the car whenever I stopped (and I would very much hustle). The posted limit was usually 65-70mph between cities and slower in town or on beltways and bypasses.

            Interstate traffic in 2000 was lighter than 2019 but heavier than 2020.

            Just some data points from personal experience. I think it’s good data.

            105mph average with the traffic this month? Yeah, I agree that to keep that up for almost thirty hours, odds are they made some passes that I would consider “aggressive.” I will say that I have a pretty good idea what the difference between a +10mph pass and a +20mph pass feels like, from being on the giving end and the receiving end. I don’t consider a 20mph pass to be overly aggressive (i.e. I’m going 75 in a 70, driving up a steep hill and I pass a truck that has slowed down to 55). When people pass me with a greater speed differential than that, honestly I’m usually impressed, I’d give them a thumbs up for the strong work, and I’m also quite happy to let them be the rabbit to flush out any speed traps up ahead. I actually pay attention to what’s in my rearview mirror too, I mean out to a mile back, not just what’s suddenly on my back bumper and “came out of nowhere oh my gosh.”

            Another pro tip for passing as you come up on two or more cars that are close to each other on the freeway, if you pay attention to them then it’s very easy to tell when one of them is about to move over to pass. Just sayin’.

          • 0 avatar
            Roader

            There plenty of places in the Mountain West where the passing speed differentials are 40 to 50mph. I-70 east from I-15 has an 80mph speed limit and very long, fairly steep grades. With semi tractors pulling three trailers, it’s not uncommon for them to drop to 35mph on the steepest portions while I fly past them with my cruise set at 85.

    • 0 avatar
      Roader

      “There are countries with roadway fatality rates that are a small fraction of ours.”

      Not in in terms distance driven. Fatalities per billion vehicle km:

      Norway: 3.0
      United Kingdom: 3.4
      Germany: 4.3
      New Zealand: 7.2
      Belgium: 7.3
      United States: 7.3
      Czechia: 8.6
      South Korea: 19.4
      Mexico: 27.5

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    Not a fan of the long hood. My 13 Optima is/was a beauty, but its hood makes parking tricky, not to mention stop-n-go traffic.

    They ought to turn that I-6 sideways like Volvo did on the last-gen S60 T6. They even managed to pack 2 turbos and AWD in the engine bay; it was a modern design miracle.

    http://www.bestcarsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2012-Volvo-T6-engine.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Volvo_S60_Polestar_-_T6_3.0l_V6_turbo_%28MSP16%29.jpg

  • avatar
    tomLU86

    With the traffic volume down to dramatically, there is a lot more open space, so it’s very plausible to cruise 80-90 in NY Metro.

    35 years ago, on low traffic Sunday afternoons, 70-85 mph was not uncommon…on the Cross Island Parkway. That’s in Queens.

    If you analyze the traffic fatality statistics, you will find that death rate on the interstate is very low.

    I would not be surprised if Dal20402 is the type to drive a ‘premium’ German car. What makes it special? It probably has better handling and ride. Why is that? Because it is built for discriminating drivers who can (and several DO) drive flat out on the Autobahn.

    As low as America’s death rate is on the interstates, my sense is the autobahn rate is lower.

    We have room for improvement.

    However, a lifetime of pseudo safety coupled with police harassment of speeding motorists who are not a threat to anyone has made me very skeptical of all these safety zealots.

    So, I commend the Cannonballers who took advantage of a ‘bright spot’ in this (I hope!) once in a lifetime opportunity to make record time.

    We are (supposedly) innocent until proven guilty. Had they harmed anyone, they would face prosecution, and possible deserve what they got (if THEY were at fault). As motorists, our consitutional rights go out the window. Yet because the states and feds recognize how much money can be made of motorists, we live in a country with the lowest standards for a driver license in the developed world. We camouflage our significant levels of driver ineptitude with automatic transmissions, safety features, and the luxury of living in a country where land is free and plentiful, enabling more spacious roads and traffic separation than most of the rest of the world, Canada and Australia excepted.

    When we come out of this COVID crisis, we will look back longingly at the the ‘good old days’ when motoring in our own vehicles was more affordable and fun.

    I tip my hat to the crew that set this record. Be well, be safe–and don’t push your luck:)

  • avatar
    Ol Shel

    Aren’t these guys subject to prosecution? The last ones waited out the statute of limitations.

  • avatar

    Makes perfect sense. The Audi is a car which can do the trip without any failures, and is designed for top speed. The fuel cells and a few piss jugs, and you are in LA before the second sun-up. Once you get west of Minnesota, it’s a different planet, and your biggest risk is nailing an elk.

    You also have full radar detection…scanners with the relevant frequencies programmed….two or more sober and dedicated drivers. A set of good field glasses used by the passenger give a tactical advantage equal or better than the electronics.

    You want anarchy ? Come with me to Harlem in August. The sound of dirt bikes and mobs of 20-40 cycles at once, in contravention to every traffic rule, will fill the air.

  • avatar
    bts

    It works be nice to see a domestic car take the crown. A CT6 V would do as fine a job as the last two and probably cost a lot less.

  • avatar
    macmcmacmac

    How could you tell it from all the other Audi’s being driven douchily?

  • avatar
    ect

    If the average speed was 105, what does that say about the typical highway speed? Presumably, it had to be substantially higher.

    This car, driven on public roads by guys obsessed with going as fast as possible, was undoubtedly a menace to all other traffic on the road. Especially trucks and buses.

    This was a unconscionably idiotic stunt to pull, it’s a miracle there wasn’t a major collision at some point.

  • avatar
    AtoB

    Punch in the face, but FIRST:

    Felony arrest
    Crazy high bail
    Loss of licence for 5+ years
    Aggressive DA
    Social denouncement
    Angry, unsympathetic court
    Financially crushing portion of judgement
    Jail time of at least a year
    Huge, mentally unstable cellmate
    Punch in the face from cellmate

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    April 14th, 2020 at 5:55 pm
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    Makes perfect sense. The Audi is a car which can do the trip without any failures and is stealthy, and is designed for top speed. The fuel cells and a few Way of The Road jugs, and you are in LA before the second sun-up. Once you get west of Minnesota, it’s a different planet, and your biggest risk is nailing an elk.

    You also have full radar detection…scanners with the relevant frequencies programmed….two or more sober and dedicated drivers. A set of good field glasses used by the passenger give a tactical advantage equal or better than the electronics.

    There is always the risk of the attempt, but I don’t see much risk of diseases….

    You want anarchy ? Come with me to Harlem in August. The sound of dirt bikes and Quads, and mobs of 20-40 cycles at once, in contravention to every traffic rule, will fill the air. So many two stroke dirt bikes it sounds like a motocross race.

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