By on January 22, 2020

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump threatened to impose fresh tariffs on European automotive imports if the region can’t work out a trade deal with the United States. The good news is that the U.S. is already in the opening stages of negotiation with the United Kingdom, which is due to leave the EU at the end of January. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has even said a key benefit of Brexit is the ability to negotiate with countries like the U.S. independently.

Unfortunately, the rest of Europe doesn’t seem as eager to do business — encouraging Trump to fall back to tariff threats. But there’s clearly a retaliatory angle here. In 2018, the EU threatened punitive tariffs on traditionally American items like whiskey and motorcycles as a response to Trump’s intent to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum. He’s targeting French goods this time, mentioning 100-percent fees on imported luxury goods from France (champagne, handbags, etc.), additional levies on digital services, and a 25 percent duty on European cars. 

“Ultimately it will be very easy because if we can’t make a deal, we’ll have to put 25 percent tariffs on their cars,” Trump told Fox Business‘ Maria Bartiromo this week.

Mike Manley, Fiat Chrysler CEO and current head of the European automotive lobby group ACEA, was quoted by Reuters as saying Trump ought not to be taken lightly.

“If you look at President Trump’s track record I think he is incredibly serious. If the parties involved approach those discussions in a serious manner it will be possible for an amicable conclusion to be reached,” Manley said at an industry event in Brussels. “An escalation of the tariffs is not to the benefit of anyone.”

Trump said he met with World Trade Organization Director-General Roberto Azevêdo to discuss the president’s frustrations with the organization during the World Economic Forum in Switzerland. “Roberto and I have a tremendous relationship, and we’re going to do something that I think will be very dramatic,” he said.

Azevêdo also spoke at the event, suggesting that the WTO should probably undergo some kind of reformation and noting that he’s already planning meetings in Washington to discuss the matter further.

As for a deal with Europe, the president said he has a deadline in mind but didn’t want to make it public until he was sure. However, he warned that it was “a fairly quick date,” adding that the U.S. had no interest in delaying an agreement.

“I met with the new head of the European Commission, who’s terrific. And I had a great talk. But I said, ‘look, if we don’t get something, I’m going to have to take action’ and the action will be very high tariffs on their cars and on other things that come into our country,” Trump told CNBC, adding that investors shouldn’t panic because the EU “has to make a deal.”

He closed his time at the World Economic Forum by commenting on teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg, who also spoke at the event. Trump recommended the public “reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the apocalypse … I think that some people, they’ve put it at a level that’s unrealistic, to the point that you can’t live your life.”

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96 Comments on “Back to Normal: U.S. Auto Tariff Threats Return for EU...”


  • avatar
    ToolGuy

    Wasn’t this guy recently removed from office and replaced with the smartest woman who ever lived?

  • avatar
    dont.fit.in.cars

    “reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the apocalypse … I think that some people, they’ve put it at a level that’s unrealistic, to the point that you can’t live your life.”

    If Climate Politics wins, no more Boss, Hellcats, or Corvettes

  • avatar
    Mike Beranek

    I don’t know how anyone takes this guy seriously. I haven’t since the ’80’s.

    • 0 avatar
      dont.fit.in.cars

      You do enjoy that bump in your paycheck forgoing those annual 12 no interest loan to the Treasury.

    • 0 avatar
      Luke42

      Yeah, I first learned who this guy was when he was complaining about Ivana’s enhanced breasts during their very public divorce back in the early 1990s.

      He hasn’t grown any signs of respectability since then.

      • 0 avatar
        dont.fit.in.cars

        Chinese, Saudis, Iranians, French, Germans think otherwise.

        Mexicans are a good example. Trump threatened if Mexico didn’t stop Central Americans transit through Mexico he would slap 100% tariffs on everything coming through the border. Or in economic terms would Mexico jeopardize 88 Billion in trade or allow non citizens to walk through your country?

        It’s all about the coin.

    • 0 avatar
      Sceptic

      Mike, Donald Trump is the greatest president since Reagan. Taken seriously by every one. Your very comment confirms it!

  • avatar
    randyinrocklin

    What a bunch of idiot libturds on this cool board.

  • avatar
    highdesertcat

    Actually, I love it!

    Finally!!!! A US President that dishes out to trading partners the same restrictions, taxations, limitations and tariffs they have been levying on American-made goods for decades!

    Bless his all-American soul.

    • 0 avatar
      Hydromatic

      Nothing’s gonna come of this. In fact, he’ll stick us with a worse deal than we had in the first place.

      • 0 avatar
        highdesertcat

        I hope he follows through on his threat because people are always testing him, i.e. The Wall, Trade War with China, replace NAFTA, tariffs on Canada products…

        The fact that he even dared to threaten the self-righteous Europeans is a testament that he has followed through so far on changing trade relationships.

        But, you know, it is what it is. And that means he may (or may not) follow through, like he did with delaying the Dec tariff increases on China which were part of a compromise he reached to put his imprimateur on America’s current trade policy with China of this administration.

        I cannot recall any US president who took the bull by the horns the way this guy has.

        BRAVO!

        • 0 avatar
          Luke42

          The problem with Trump’s threats is that it amounts to hitting the American economy over the head with a 2×4 until the Chinese or the Europeans say “enough already”.

          Trade wars involve mostly self-inflicted economic pain.

          That’s why our smarter presidents haven’t done it the way Trump does it.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            “That’s why our smarter presidents haven’t done it the way Trump does it.”

            Nobody has done squat since the 80s when the nation’s economy began to implode. The best Barry could muster -on the public face- was “you didn’t build that” as I recall.

          • 0 avatar
            highdesertcat

            Luke42, that may be your perspective but for many Americans, me and mine included, President Trump has done more in three years for MOST Americans than ANY other US president has done during their entire time in the White House.

            I hope he pulls a Xi and stays for life in the job.

            (Alas, wishful thinking)

          • 0 avatar
            JimZ

            “I hope he pulls a Xi and stays for life in the job.”

            it’s funny how “conservatives” who claim to “love America” have some of the most anti-american views imaginable.

      • 0 avatar
        thornmark

        >>Nothing’s gonna come of this. In fact, he’ll stick us with a worse deal than we had in the first place.

        it already has, dummy

    • 0 avatar
      thelaine

      Yup. With you here, HDC. About freakin time.

      • 0 avatar
        Whatnext

        And there we have it ladies and gentlemen, highdesertcat offers a firsthand lesson on how Hitler came to power. Folks like him claim to love ‘Murica, but they love Trump more.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          Bit of a stretch.

          • 0 avatar
            Whatnext

            Really? Do you think the Founding Fathers would have approved of somebody being “President for Life”? You either support and cherish the idea of democracy, or you don’t.

        • 0 avatar
          jkross22

          @Whatnext, I’m no fan of Trump, but Hitler comparisons should be left to the History channel or other sites that prefer hyperventilating to reasoned thought.

          • 0 avatar
            Whatnext

            Nope, Hitler comparisons are totally valid. Not every populist demagogue who becomes a dictator also has to be a loon who gasses millions of innocent people. They just need to appeal to people’s basest instincts. The blind loyalty that people like HDC shows to their ilk is lethal to democracies.

        • 0 avatar
          highdesertcat

          Whatnext, were you aware that until after FDR was re-elected for a third term, there were no limitations on how many terms an elected president could serve?

          It was during the third term of FDR that the US Congress legislated that an elected president could only serve two consecutive terms.

          The key word is “consecutive”.

          If Shrub wanted to run in 2020, he could.

          If the last disaster from Chicago wanted to run in 2020, he could.

          This was actually taught in US public schools in SoCal as part of American Government studies. I remember it well because each student in my class had to give a presentation on a subject on American Government, The Bill of Rights, etc.

          My dad who was a Portuguese citizen had to learn the same stuff we took for granted, and pass a test on it, before he could become a naturalized US citizen.

          • 0 avatar
            Whatnext

            So you’re going to argue semantics and hang your hat on the idea that the Founding Fathers would have been OK with a dictator-like figure being President for Life, as Xi is in China? Really, think about it.

            The “disaster from Chicago” as you put it managed to steer the USA from an economic collapse.

          • 0 avatar
            highdesertcat

            Whatnext, it’s all about what an individual chooses to believe.

            My beliefs and experiences under President Trump are so much better than during the last guy’s time in office.

            Now there is no redistribution of America’s wealth from those who work to the chronic freeloaders and habitually unemployed.

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            HDC

            They don’t teach American government, civics and history anymore except to the extent necessary to show that America and Americans are evil, with the exception of those Americans who are victims. That is the contemporary curriculum.

          • 0 avatar
            Sceptic

            Bravo, Highdesertcat! Touché! Those so called “liberals” or “progressives” are full of it! You couldn’t show it better.

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            I don’t want to see anybody be president more than twice, yeah we changed the constitution after FDR for a good reason.

            I personally think that Theodore Roosevelt was one of the Greatest of All Time but that doesn’t mean I want to see him as dictator.

            I’m starting to think the strongest argument for taking care of my health is to see the Boomers shuffle off the stage.

          • 0 avatar
            JimZ

            “Whatnext, it’s all about what an individual chooses to believe.”

            Well, Asimov was surely on point:

            “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

  • avatar
    thelaine

    “How dayh you!”

    Frkin child abuse victim is the left’s global warming spokesperson. Hilarious that she was speaking to all the flaming hypocrites who had flown in on their private jets and each of whose lifestyles produce more carbon dioxide than the average person would in thousands of lifetimes. Oh well, she is a lot more entertaining than Al “the earth has a fever” Gore.

    Catastrophic man-made global warning theory is an apocalyptic terror tactic designed to manipulate the masses and make the powerful even more so. None of these wealthy people believe it for a second, or they would not live as they do. Most scientists don’t believe it either. That is why they had to change it from catastrophic global warming to “climate change” to reach their consensus. Yes, the climate is always changing. Happy now?

    Trump’s speech at Davos was good. Reaganesque. Highly recommended.

    • 0 avatar
      Arthur Dailey

      Although I do agree with some of what you posted, ‘Most scientists don’t believe it either’, is a misstatement of the facts.

      The vast majority of those with doctorates in the applicable disciplines have confirmed their belief in the existence of climate change created by human activity. That is a fact.

      Manmade climate change is considerably different than natural climate cycles, in the speed of the change.

      And just how does this ‘conspiracy theory’ make ‘the powerful even more so’? If anything it opens up new economic avenues and may even help to reduce the power of the petroleum interests.

      • 0 avatar
        thelaine

        Arthur,

        I thought I made it clear, but I will say it again: Catastrophic man-made global warming theory, which is an apocalyptic prediction or prophecy, does NOT enjoy scientific consensus.

        The theory that human activity has had some measurable impact on the climate does have substantial support in the scientific community.

        Do you see the difference?

        The science is one thing, the distortion of it by the political left to carry out their agenda, which involves ever more control by the government over the lives of citizens is another. It is not a “conspiracy theory,” unless you believe that the existence of socialism, totalitarianism, fascism, and other leftist/statist beliefs are also conspiracy theories.

        You may condescendingly believe it is conspiratorial thinking, but there are many people who believe that the government should have greater and greater power and many who benefit from this power. They believe you should “never let a crisis go to waste.” They have created a crisis with “climate change” where no crisis exists. They are trying to use it to gain more power.

        This is not a new tactic, it is just a newly invented “threat.” There are few proposed “climate change” remedies that do not involve expanded government power and control. This includes favored corporations and bought politicians.

        • 0 avatar
          Arthur Dailey

          @theLaine. Your statement is wrong. Full Stop.
          Manmade climate change is supported by over 90% of accredited scientists in the applicable fields.

          That is a fact.
          What you claimed is wrong.

          As for your conspiracy theory. Stop drinking the internet Koolaid. Switching from petroleum will actually increase individual freedom. With improved technology we can take our homes off the grid. Heat and power our homes for little cost. Eliminate fuel costs for our vehicles. Remove the need for governments to run power and natural gas lines through subdivisions. In effect a ‘survivalists’ dream.

          Instead the petroleum interests and 1% are trying to convince you of the opposite in order to keep their power entrenched.

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            You obviously cannot make the distinction between scientific support for “climate change” and predictions of catastrophic global warming due to human activity. Without that critical thinking function, you are helpless to understand the rest. Full stop.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            “Switching from petroleum will actually increase individual freedom. With improved technology we can take our homes off the grid. Heat and power our homes for little cost. Eliminate fuel costs for our vehicles. Remove the need for governments to run power and natural gas lines through subdivisions.”

            I can’t speak for Canada, but I highly doubt this would be allowed to happen, at least in the way you describe.

            In fact:

            “Utility companies in the past have attempted to thwart competition from third-party solar operators, including almost $20 million into a constitutional amendment in 2016 that would have made it more difficult for such operators to work in Florida.”

            https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sound-off-south-florida/fl-ne-sosf-solar-power-florida-20190718-6ghwjoedrbfslijrsgrszoedoe-story.html

            “It was a big investment — $8,400 even after a federal tax break. Thorne estimated how long it would take to pay off the solar system, installed the panels, and began waiting for the savings to begin.

            But then she found out about a monthly $5-per-kilowatt solar fee from the state’s largest utility, Alabama Power.

            “That’s $20 a month,” Thorne says. While that doesn’t sound like a lot of money, she says, it will double the time it will take her to pay off the system.

            Because of the fee, 65-year-old Thorne says it’ll take almost two decades to pay back her panels.”

            https://www.npr.org/2019/06/02/728761703/to-some-solar-users-power-company-fees-are-an-unfair-charge

            “Solar experts and environmentalists blame the state’s utilities.

            The utilities have hindered potential rivals seeking to offer residential solar power. They have spent tens of millions of dollars on lobbying, ad campaigns and political contributions. And when homeowners purchase solar equipment, the utilities have delayed connecting the systems for months.

            Solar energy is widely considered an essential part of addressing climate change by weaning the electric grid from fossil fuels. California, a clean energy trendsetter, last year became the first state to require solar power for all new homes.

            But many utilities across the country have fought homeowners’ efforts to install solar panels. The industry’s trade organization, the Edison Electric Institute, has warned that the technology threatens the foundation of the power companies’ business.

            In Florida, utilities make money on virtually all aspects of the electricity system — producing the power, transmitting it, selling it and delivering it. And critics say the companies have much at stake in preserving that control.

            “I’ve had electric utility executives say with a straight face that we can’t have solar power in Florida because we have so many cloudy days,” said Representative Kathy Castor, a Democrat from the Tampa area. “I have watched as other states have surpassed us. I think that is largely because of the political influence of the investor-owned utilities.””

            https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/07/business/energy-environment/florida-solar-power.html

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            “Instead the petroleum interests and 1% are trying to convince you of the opposite in order to keep their power entrenched.”

            NOT a conspiracy theory?????

            Oy.

            You may be interested in constructing a “survivalist” society. I am not. Good luck with that dream.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            @theLaine: I can split hairs pretty well. However it appears that scientific facts are not something that you are willing to accept. Still I will try. Enjoy reading any of the links below.

            https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
            https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2016/12/14/fact-checking-the-97-consensus-on-anthropogenic-climate-change/#55acc8711576
            https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99
            https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/03/ar4-wg1-chapter1.pdf
            https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-real/

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            @28Cars: another example of the shackles of the capitalist ethos.

            In much of Canada the electrical utilities are government owned/managed/controlled.

            Therefore there is a political incentive to convert to ‘green energy’.

            In Ontario the previous government was not re-elected largely because they paid too much to convince people to convert to green energy.

          • 0 avatar
            thornmark

            no, you are wrong

            government only funds “science” that conforms to what it wants – Eisenhower saw that and warned ag/it in his “Military Industrial Complex” speech

            real science doesn’t hide and manipulate data, that politics and that’s what the warmists have done

            science doesn’t say “shutup” and you’re a denier or nazi and you’ve lost your job

            that’s politics

            science relies on the scientific method – something AGW always fails

            the vice chair of the IPCC declared before Cancun that the AGW movement was not about the climate, it was about wealth redistribution

            watch what the proponents of AGW do w/ their private jets and yachts, not what they say

            why do you think they’re using that disturbed girl, Greta – because it’s a con job – she doesn’t know anything but D students like Al Gore applaud her

            science never says it’s settled

          • 0 avatar
            thornmark

            Maurice Strong invented what you call science – but it’s actually politics

          • 0 avatar
            thornmark

            Arthur Dailey is no scientist. Science isn’t consensus. Science isn’t settled. Real scientists know that.

            “Settled science” has been proven wrong throughout history just as “consensus” is the refuge of closed minds. History has shown that one man is often correct while consensus is wrong.

            We have politics masquerading as science. That’s why the politicians use children.

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            Splitting hairs? It is the difference between a scientific phenomenon to be studied further and a crisis that will end humanity.

            It is your ideology that prevents you from seeing what is in front of your face. There is no scientific consensus that the existence of mankind is threatened by the burning of fossil fuels. You just want to believe it.

          • 0 avatar
            thelaine

            “Reject the perennial prophets of doom and their predictions of the apocalypse.”

  • avatar
    Steve65

    It takes a special kind of stupid to gleefully applaud the choice to drive up prices for Americans, put Americans out of work, and reduce the number of options Americans have available to buy.

    But hey, as long as the dirty furriners are feeling the pain too, bring it on.

    • 0 avatar
      dont.fit.in.cars

      Or Steve, it takes a special kind of entrenched status quo to perpetuate managed downward spiral of the middle class.

      Evidence is Mexican and Chinese aftermarket auto parts, 50% of Home Depot and Lowe’s products made in China. Every one of those items formerly made in US now fabricated overseas.

      37% German tariffs on importing US made autos while they are charged 3% or French putting taxes on electronic data. Germans have the gall to claim Russia bad…NATO must protect while they’re negotiating a 6 billion dollar Russian pipeline and funding their defense payments to social programs.

      Nice to know one can hi ho F your neighbor for a discount at Walmart.

    • 0 avatar
      Lorenzo

      Sorry, but you’re way behind the curve on protective tariffs. The ones on steel and aluminum opened up domestic production, keeping prices stable, and the domestic production put Americans back to work. Consumers have more options than they had before the tariffs.

      A Mexican steel company owned America’s largest nail maker, shipping Mexican wire at a discount to a factory in Missouri that captured 50% of the wire nail market, using the “Made In America” label on fabricated Mexican steel wire.

      Since the tariff, their share has dropped to 20% and a half dozen US specialty fastener companies have jumped into the wire nail business to take that 30%, at competitive prices. There were job losses in Missouri, but many more jobs created in Indiana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

      Now those new American jobs are paying better, due to the tight job market. Apparently the assumptions of economists didn’t hold up against reality.

      • 0 avatar
        Arthur Dailey

        I’m all for ending ‘free’ trade agreements with 3rd world nations, dictatorships and nations that oppose our way of life.

        However when the President of the USA threatens America’s traditional allies, that destabilizes western democracy and plays right into the hands of Russia and China.

        America gained global economic dominance by propping up, and supporting democratic nations. Not by threatening them.

        Whether or not President Trump’s actions are bringing back manufacturing jobs is however debatable. Business Insider magazine among others says no.
        https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-trade-war-loss-of-manufacturing-jobs-contradicts-purpose-tariffs-2019-10-10285776

        • 0 avatar
          dont.fit.in.cars

          President Trump doesn’t threaten allies but asks why are we still pursuing trade under the Marshall plan? Allowing high tariffs on our goods and little to none receiving theirs? Why is the US lead contributor to Europe’s defense? Why is the US taxpayer funding European Socialism?

          Modern trade triangle is US corporations Funded by Wall Street use Chinese Labor making products for US domestic consumption. Chinese receipts are used to purchase European Equipment and goods. All at expense of American middle class.

          Trump isn’t from the political class and doesn’t owe Tom Donahue head of Chamber of Commerce anything. (he funds 90% of US political campaigns and writes most legislation). Trump trade team made billions in the private sector and not holding to State Dept for trade advice.

          I will not disparage you’re link, because there are many factors contributing to lower manufacturing employment. One is increase flexibility in the market, smaller startups being more efficient with newer equipment and lack of math arriving to operate CNC. My fabricator complains most new hires are lazy or lie about their qualifications.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            Here’s a link to political contributions/lobbyist spending.

            https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-spenders?cycle=2019

            One reason why I hope that Mike Bloomberg is the Democrat’s candidate. He is self-funded.

            Will not accept money from the likes of the Kochs or Sheldon Adelson.

            The Marshall Plan allowed for American hegemony. It created markets for American products or for the products of American controlled corporations (Ford Europe and Opel for example) and American branch plants American economic prosperity to a large degree depends on the status of the US dollar internationally.

          • 0 avatar
            highdesertcat

            “most new hires are lazy”

            Not just in your discipline/industry.

            The same is true in many others, be they the minimum-wage fast-food industry, the car sales business, and even the hospitality industry where people actually sleep on the job when they should be working out and about.

          • 0 avatar
            thornmark

            LOL

            Bloomberg isn’t going anywhere

            he’s nearly 80 and barely won NYC the last time and spent @$300/ vote

            Americans will never elect a NYC Mayor as Prez

            EVER

          • 0 avatar
            highdesertcat

            “Bloomberg isn’t going anywhere”

            I heard him say on Bloomberg TV (of course) that if he (Bloomberg) does not get the nomination, he will use his money to back the ‘crat nominee, without limitation.

            Such a deal!

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            “One reason why I hope that Mike Bloomberg is the Democrat’s candidate. He is self-funded.”

            So was Trump, ostensibly, but then Mnuchin -“ex” Goldman partner and a grandchild of Rothschild- signed on to “fund raise” in July 2016. Look for Bloomberg to do the same should he get as far.

  • avatar
    EliMorgan

    Best President Ever……

  • avatar
    Art Vandelay

    I have somei ssues with the guy, but I think he’s right on with respect to this stuff.

    • 0 avatar
      highdesertcat

      But you know, this is such a fleeting moment.

      I know that nothing lasts forever, but we can at least bask in this moment….. until the next ‘crat president.

      Then it’s back to bowing and the apology tour, welfare, foodstamps, unemployment, high taxes, etc etc etc. All the bad stuff.

      The past three years have been pretty remarkable. Something I never have experienced before during my lifetime. Truly, we (my family and I) have never been this well off at any time before.

      I hope it lasts five more years.

      I think it will. By a landslide.

      • 0 avatar
        Right_Click_Refresh

        Oh it will, and mounting losses will cause the reeeee babies heads to spontaneously explode. Funny stuff.

      • 0 avatar
        thelaine

        You are dead on HDC. Trump after Obama is like Reagan after Carter, only better. Some people don’t like his style or his personality. I consider this to be an irrelevant or insincere argument. Trump is always fighting for America and Americans and he totally rejects the socialist left, whether in the US or elsewhere. He also expects our “allies” to trade fairly and not expect the US to defend those who will not defend themselves.

        As for Trump’s personal morality, give me a break. The same people who criticize Trump also defended Clinton, who is a rapist, serial hound dog, and J. Epstein client. Kennedy is worshiped by the left, and he had orgies in the White House. Now, with Trump, people suddenly get the vapors. Please.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          Jack was incredibly flawed but I’ll give him a pass for saving the world as we know it in 1962. He likely paid the tab for it with his life.

          Ted on the other hand was guilty of treason, let alone Chappaquiddick and whatever else.

          https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html#36083003359a

  • avatar
    dal20402

    Imposing tariffs is like telling somebody you’re going to beat them up and then punching yourself in the face as hard as you can.

    The only confirmed damage from the tariffs he’s already imposed is to American producers.

    While it may not suit your wishes for combat, our historical reluctance to impose tariffs even when they are imposed against us is one of the reasons we remain the richest country in the world.

    I can’t wait until we again have a president who can read a report longer than a double-spaced page without his attention drifting to the long-legged Fox News host in his peripheral vision.

    • 0 avatar
      dont.fit.in.cars

      Dal

      The fallacy of your discord is trade with America is not reciprocated. One country cannot demand low export tariffs then protect its economy from American products imported.

      France wants to tax digital data coming from America. Trump reciprocates by taxing French wine then tells Macron he’s sure Italy and Spain will enjoy low tariffs on their wine.

      Canadians halt US milk and cheese products with high tariffs to protects its dairy industry yet use NAFTA to dump lumber into US.

      Trump is using Tariffs to drive towards low or no tariffs for world trade and provisions for disputes. Europeans are worried because WTO just awarded US 2.5 billion in a non appeal case against Airbus.

    • 0 avatar
      thornmark

      BO’s IQ was at least 20 points lower than Trumps and BO was helpless w/o a teleprompter

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        I’ve seen him speak without a teleprompter personally. Any random sentence makes more sense than the sum total of a Trump rally. Which makes sense. The dude was in the top 10% or so of his class at Harvard Law School.

      • 0 avatar
        HotPotato

        Thornmark, that may just be the goofiest thing I’ve read on TTAC. Agree with his positions or not, Obama was brilliant and well-spoken. His replacement is a draft-dodging, pussy-grabbing, eight-times-bankrupt convicted con man and game show host who stole charity money from veterans and children, and cannot assemble so much as a single coherent sentence without the aid of a TelePromTer. Come on. There are good people and bad people in both parties, smart people and dumb people in both parties. Agree with his positions or not, Trump is neither a good person nor a smart one, and that’s abundantly clear to anyone who is paying attention.

  • avatar
    Alex Rodriguez

    Say what you will about Trump but he does what he says he will do. Sometimes its hard to watch the process of him making the sausage, but he makes it. NAFTA now gone, replaced by more US Friendly USMCA, Trade agreement with China that is more friendly to the US, I really can’t doubt that he will get a deal with the EU.

    • 0 avatar
      Arthur Dailey

      @Arod. “He does what he says he will”.

      You mean like building the wall? Nope.
      Getting Mexico to pay for it? Not even close.
      Like bringing home US servicemen/women? Nope.
      Like ending Obamacare? Nope.
      Draining the swamp? If anything it is even more highly populated. Except for his cronies/appointees/election team members who have been convicted and jailed.
      Winning the trade wars? Check out the billions of dollars in bailouts that were paid by the US government to farmers.
      Bringing back manufacturing jobs? Stats say not so much.
      Bringing back jobs in the coal industry? Nope.
      As for USMCA, there is very little difference in US/Canada content/requirements agreements than the previous agreement except the name. Granted there are some changes regarding Mexico. Which I do agree with.

      So just what campaign promises as he actually accomplished?

      • 0 avatar
        Hummer

        He’s literally done or begun the process of everything you state he hasn’t.
        What kind of bologna Canadian news are you watching?

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        jkross22

        Arthur, You left out a key one. Remember Trump prattling on about only hiring the best people? The best people like Omarosa, Rudy G, The Mooch, Sean Spicer, Michael Flynn and a bunch of others who aren’t around anymore.

        Trump’s B&B turnover rate is laughably bad, and it’s a result of poor leadership, communication and people around him not trusting the man or his judgement.

        It’s a pity that many Republicans aren’t willing to admit the Truth about Trump – that you can agree with some of his policies while recognizing the guy’s crapping the bed.

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          Sceptic

          Yes, Trump is exactly the man Americans want. I would not like to work FOR HIM. But I love him working FOR ME. See the difference?

          • 0 avatar
            HotPotato

            If you think he’s working for you, you’re naive. He works only for himself. He just announced his intention to cut Social Security and Medicare, for one thing. Wonder how his Boomer fans will take that.

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    TR4

    Tariffs have been an American tradition since 1789, see:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff_in_United_States_history

  • avatar
    JD-Shifty

    Trump is a dumb con man for dumb people. His online fans and rally crowds are proof.

    • 0 avatar
      thornmark

      Trump’s IQ is @158, which has to be at least twice yours

      • 0 avatar
        highdesertcat

        Someone had mentioned that earlier when I didn’t know that. If true, that’s astonishing!

        But ultimately, each individual has to decide for themselves how well any president’s policies are working for them. And whether to vote to re-elect him for Moah, Moah, Moah!

        And this guy has done a remarkable job! I heard today that a group of rich people who normally support ‘crat causes gifted Trump’s re-election campaign with $21MILLION dollars.

        Considering that Trump is self-funded and donates his presidential salary to worthy causes, that is unbelievable. It means that those $21MILLION dollars, otherwise destined for the ‘crats, will most likely be redistributed to fund other Republican candidates, nationwide.

      • 0 avatar
        dal20402

        The person measuring must have been the same doctor who said that a 320-pound, 73-year-old man who needs a golf cart to go half a mile is the “healthiest president ever.”

        • 0 avatar
          thornmark

          Trump is a master persuader – just watch him this year – he will destroy his Dem opponent – and the Dems know that and have said that their political impeachment is the the only way to stop him

          and that has failed

          amazing w/ 90+% of the trained seal MSM ag/ him, Trump will prevail even if he spends one third of what the Dems spend

          Bloomberg can spend it all and he’s going nowhere – he just went to CA and said that CA was what Americans look up to

          Is he nutz – half the state of CA wants to leave even though it’s gorgeous – because the Dems have turned it into a third world state, with third world income stratification, crime and pestilence – how absolutely clueless is Bloomberg

          Bloomer went to TX w/ Judge Judy, the most popular woman on tv and got a crowd of 45! She must be disgusted w/ him for that. Just imagine 45 people.

  • avatar
    thelaine

    Perhaps the best thing about Trump is that he drives leftists crazy, which clarifies where everyone really stands. For example, the mainstream press has lost its power because he exposed them as Democrats with keyboards and cameras. The leftist Deep State has also been exposed. Like him or hate him, Trump is transformative. No wonder they have been trying to destroy him since day 1.

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