Ask Bark: Bitten by a Bark's Bite

Mark "Bark M." Baruth
by Mark "Bark M." Baruth

One of the great joys I’ve had over the last six years of writing for this site has been offering my advice (for what it’s worth) to the loyal readers of TTAC, the Best & Brightest. Nearly every person whose question I’ve answered has written to tell me that they appreciated what I’ve written in response to their advice, even if he or she didn’t follow it exactly. But today, I got an email from somebody who ended up feeling the sting from my words. Let’s hear from our friend Quincy and see if we can help him.Hi Mark,I was recently reading your article about the deals that could be had on left over inventory and I felt inspired to test the waters. My local Buick dealer in Metro Detroit had a 2018 Regal TourX Preferred in silver with a MSRP of $36k and I was happy to take it home for $23.5k before TTL. However, the honeymoon came to a screeching halt as I was introduced to the concept of lot rot. Back to the dealer for new brakes. To make a long story short, the driver’s front wheel came off during the technician’s new brake road test and moved in a generally northeast pattern towards the A-pillar. With only 444 miles, my car sits in the dealer’s back lot with a driver’s door impinged by a front fender. The only offer from the owner of the dealership is to let them repair the car in-house or they won’t cover the costs of the repairs. Do I really want the dealership that damaged the car to fix it? With no parts is sight (GM strike) and a damaged vehicle history, I’m finding the dealer’s offer leaves me less than satisfied. So what would you do in my shoes?Thanks,QuincyUgh. That sucks.

Let’s focus on the positive — you did get a great deal on a good car.

Okay, that’s all the positives.

Here’s the negative — your dealer sounds like a grade-A fucking thief. Now, you’d think that you’d be entitled to sue them for negligence, but, apparently, tightening the lug nuts after rotating tires is not considered part of the service in certain states. Like yours, for example. Bonkers. It’s possible that the dealer is aware of this ruling, but even so I don’t think it would apply in this case because the damage occurred while the car was still in their possession, and while they were driving it, so I have to believe that any court would find them liable. (Warning: Bark is not a lawyer and this should not be construed as legal advice. Like, not at all.)

My guess is that the reason they’re offering to fix it in-house is so that you don’t actually contact their insurer. A claim like this — proving that the dealer was allowing employees to drive a car around without actually checking to see if the wheel was properly torqued — would probably result in a serious rate hike or even a cancellation from their insurance provider. So, just like you might do if you hit somebody’s car, they’re offering to settle it privately.

However, you absolutely have the right to file a claim with their insurer, and I’d threaten to do so. Under normal circumstances, in addition to asking for the car to be repaired, I would think that you might have the ability to file a 3rd party diminished value claim with your dealership’s insurance provider. However, since you bought a car for $13k under sticker, you might have a hard time proving that you car’s value was diminished below what you actually paid for it.

So here’s what I’d do. I’d hire a licensed diminished value appraiser in your state, and tell the dealer that you’ll be sending them out to inspect the car. This will probably cost you about $100-200, so you’ll have to decide if you want to hire an appraiser or just threaten to hire an appraiser. The dealer may smell that you mean business at that point and offer you something more than a simple repair of the damage, or you may actually have to go ahead and contact your insurance company and have them begin to file a claim.

Either way, I wouldn’t accept their simple offer to fix it and be done. I’d tell them that they can either fix it and offer you a hefty cash bonus in addition, or that you can ask for the dealer’s insurance company’s information, contact your insurance company, and let them work it out. This also smells like the sort of story that somebody with a lot of eyeballs in the Detroit market, like the Detroit Free Press, might like to run a story about. Hell, you can even send them a link to this story and promise that ol’ Bark will make it rain on them.

And, hey, just remember, you did get a good deal.

[General Motors]

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  • Stevelovescars Stevelovescars on Oct 28, 2019

    I've been following the TourX for a while... it wasn't quite out when I bought my last car but it would have been a top contender. Dealers near me in Northern Michigan rarely seem to have the in stock. I thought they would do better given that the Subaru Outback seems to be the official car around here. When they do happen to get one, they seem offer them for $8k off without much arguing at all. At one point, they had one parked in front of their dealer with a $10k off decal on the windshield. Seeing that these probably average around $36k MSRP with options, the used examples I've seen don't appear to offer much advantage, price-wise, to buying new with a discount.

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    • Stevelovescars Stevelovescars on Oct 28, 2019

      @CKNSLS Sierra SLT I did, but that was for a FWD Regal sportback, not a TourX. That one was an outlier, most seemed to auction for low to mid 20's, meaning retail asking prices essentially at the same price one can buy them new with rebates and discounts.

  • Lou_BC Lou_BC on Oct 28, 2019

    Gotta love car dealerships. I don't have any bad tales about buying new but have my share of service department nightmares. I recall one where my dad brought in a vehicle to have the water pump replaced. The mechanic put a wrench into the radiator. They billed my dad and said it was just part of the repair. My dad told the dude at the service counter, "Really!, when I knock all the teeth out of your mouth with my fist and the police show up, I'll just claim it was all the normal part of dealing with service advisers." they paid for the damage.

  • MaintenanceCosts I wish more vehicles in our market would be at or under 70" wide. Narrowness makes everything easier in the city.
  • El scotto They should be supping with a very, very long spoon.
  • El scotto [list=1][*]Please make an EV that's not butt-ugly. Not Jaguar gorgeous but Buick handsome will do.[/*][*] For all the golf cart dudes: A Tesla S in Plaid mode will be the fastest ride you'll ever take.[/*][*]We have actual EV owners posting on here. Just calmly stated facts and real world experience. This always seems to bring out those who would argue math.[/*][/list=1]For some people an EV will never do, too far out in the country, taking trips where an EV will need recharged, etc. If you own a home and can charge overnight an EV makes perfect sense. You're refueling while you're sleeping.My condo association is allowing owners to install chargers. You have to pay all of the owners of the parking spaces the new electric service will cross. Suggested fee is 100$ and the one getting a charger pays all the legal and filing fees. I held out for a bottle of 30 year old single malt.Perhaps high end apartments will feature reserved parking spaces with chargers in the future. Until then non home owners are relying on public charge and one of my neighbors is in IT and he charges at work. It's call a perk.I don't see company owned delivery vehicles that are EV's. The USPS and the smiley boxes should be the 1st to do this. Nor are any of our mega car dealerships doing this and but of course advertising this fact.I think a great many of the EV haters haven't came to the self-actualization that no one really cares what you drive. I can respect and appreciate what you drive but if I was pushed to answer, no I really don't care what you drive. Before everyone goes into umbrage over my last sentence, I still like cars. Especially yours.I have heated tiles in my bathroom and my kitchen. The two places you're most likely to be barefoot. An EV may fall into to the one less thing to mess with for many people.Macallan for those who were wondering.
  • EBFlex The way things look in the next 5-10 years no. There are no breakthroughs in battery technology coming, the charging infrastructure is essentially nonexistent, and the price of entry is still way too high.As soon as an EV can meet the bar set by ICE in range, refueling times, and price it will take off.
  • Jalop1991 Way to bury the lead. "Toyota to offer two EVs in the states"!
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