Will the Subaru BRZ Survive If Toyota Nixes the 86?

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

News of the Toyota Supra’s four-cylinder engine, currently relegated to the Japanese market, bolstered media assumptions that the base model could eventually replace the 86 coupe in North America. While that’s a bit of a stretch, especially considering The Japan Times says a second-generation 86 is rumored to in the works for 2021, sales of the model sank nearly 40 percent in the United States last year. Toyota has also suggested it is considering paring its North American lineup.

Like the Supra, Toyota’s 86 is shared with a manufacturer that sells it under a different name, with its own unique flair. It may not sell as well, but the Subaru BRZ is essentially the same vehicle and its manufacturer doesn’t want you to worry about Toyota. It would like to continue building the lightweight sports coupe even if the 86 goes extinct. However, wanting to and doing so are two completely different things.

“The car has been great for the brand, certainly one of the halo vehicles from a performance perspective,” Subaru’s head of North American communications, Ron Kiino, told CarBuzz at the 2019 North American International Auto Show. “As far as giving customers a Subaru feel, a lightweight sports car, the boxer engine is a big part of that. For our brand we think the BRZ makes sense and we feel there’s a demand.”

When asked if a decision by Toyota not to do a new 86 would result in the elimination of the BRZ, Kiino said “it’s not an immediate death sentence,” without elaborating further.

While it would be hard to imagine the BRZ without the 86, Subaru could theoretically go it alone. Both models are manufactured at its Gunma assembly plant, smack dab in the middle of Japan, without much aid from Toyota. Sure, Big T designed the transmission and fuel injection system, but the rest of the flat-four powertrain is pure Subaru.

That doesn’t necessary mean fate will be kind to the BRZ without Toyota’s involvement. Last year, Subaru only managed to move 3,834 units in the U.S. and Kiino’s words are only tepidly reassuring. We’re not prepared to assume anything other than Subaru not wanting to let go of the model unless it has to — which seems probable.

[Images: Subaru]

Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • SuperCarEnthusiast SuperCarEnthusiast on Jan 20, 2019

    Doubt it! It built in the same assembly plant as the 86 and the 86 sells 20% more cars then the BRZ.

  • Jthorner Jthorner on Jan 21, 2019

    Conspiracy theory time: Didn't Toyota tell use this vehicle would be short-lived just by the name? "Klinger, 86 the 86, would ya?"

  • CanadaCraig You can just imagine how quickly the tires are going to wear out on a 5,800 lbs AWD 2024 Dodge Charger.
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  • FormerFF We bought three new and one used car last year, so we won't be visiting any showrooms this year unless a meteor hits one of them. Sorry to hear that Mini has terminated the manual transmission, a Mini could be a fun car to drive with a stick.It appears that 2025 is going to see a significant decrease in the number of models that can be had with a stick. The used car we bought is a Mk 7 GTI with a six speed manual, and my younger daughter and I are enjoying it quite a lot. We'll be hanging on to it for many years.
  • Oberkanone Where is the value here? Magna is assembling the vehicles. The IP is not novel. Just buy the IP at bankruptcy stage for next to nothing.
  • Jalop1991 what, no Turbo trim?
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